Register  |   | 
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment  
levar

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 215
Reply with quote  #1 

Kadotas.jpg

Two excellent Kadotas

This year, Miami's late spring and early summer brought little to no rain but a lot of humidity and brutal heat. Luckily, the figs manage to dry out a little on the branch and a few varieties have produced very good fruit. In late summer, we face a lot of rain and the quality of the fruit may change. I think I got lucky this year since so many varieties began to ripen in mid-May. 

None of my trees produced fruit that split or soured unless notated otherwise. Also, none of these figs were caprified and all of them are in pots.

 

In order of ripening:

Brown Turkey - 2 year old tree. Open eye. I don't know what happened to the photo of the opened fruit. Oh well.
Brown Turkey 1.jpg  Brown Turkey 2.jpg 

Taste - I picked it a bit too early so it was kind of sweet and musky on the eye-end but bland and watery near the stem. Recent fruit and growth were disappointing so I discarded the tree. 

 

Ronde de Bordeaux - 1.5 years old. Small, open eye.

I hadn't begun using coins for size comparison but the fruit size of the RdB is inconsistent; some are as big as a quarter/2 euro coin, others about half that. 

First RdB on May 18.
Screen Shot 2015-07-16 at 6.03.07 PM.png    
 
20150621_142241.jpg 

Taste - Reminds me of a good Black Mission but with raspberry notes. It also has a bit of that grassy coconut thing going on but that might be because the tree is still so young.

Hollier - 5 years old but has been with me since 2013. Closed eye. Here's where I begin using coins for scale. 

Hollier Dry Ripe.jpg 
Hollier Ripe 2.jpg 
Taste - Cloves, musk, and a honey-like spiciness without having the same flavor profile of actual honey. All of the figs are only mildly sweet right now.  

In 2014, the fruits were very small, bland, and three of the six fruits that formed fell off. The flavor has improved considerably and the size of each individual fruit has more than doubled. If this massive shift in quality is any indication of how the fruit will continue to improve with age, then I hope this is a good variety to wait out. 

 

Texas Blue Giant -TBG Branch Split.jpg 
TBG 2.jpg  
TBG4.jpg 
Screen Shot 2015-07-16 at 5.57.45 PM.png 


I’m curious about what this one is like like after it’s been caprified. Mold and subsequent souring was an issue, probably due to that huge open eye. Some split directly across (an opening of 2 inches / 5 cm) while others remained perfectly intact. Others only had a mild tearing around the eye.

Taste - The tree is about four years old and there’s still major variation between fruits in terms of quality; one had absolutely no flavor whatsoever while another was like a greatly improved Brown Turkey - exceptional, even. Unfortunately, the often overly-watery texture is a major letdown. The best flavored one was like biting into watery cake icing - delicious to taste but disappointing to chew. Another was like a watery peach. 

I’m still going to keep this one for at least two more years before I seriously decide whether to toss it because when it’s good, it’s lovely. I just wish it were good a bit more frequently. 

 

Smith 1.5 years old. Honey drop eye. 
Smith drop.jpg 
Smith deep red.jpg 
20150711_160225.jpg 
20150711_160300.jpg 

Taste - For a young tree, the figs were very nice. Despite the variations in flavor, I noticed notes of vanilla and raspberry in the riper ones - almost like a vanilla custard flavored RdB. Really interesting and very sweet. The texture is consistently jammy, or at least dense with sugar. 

 

Unknown from my neighborhood - In spring 2014, I started a cutting from a local bush/tree, which was slow to get started and I wasn’t sure if it was going to make it.  Luckily, it’s extremely productive now. Fruits are small and very sweet with a slight non-distinct berry flavor and a jammy texture. Any guesses? 
Closed eye.

Unknown 1.jpg 
Unknown 2.jpg 
 

Excel - 1.5 years. Honey drop eye. 
Excel 2.jpg 
Excel 3.jpg 
Excel 1.jpg 
Excel.jpg 
The inverted fig in the above photo is just deformed and is not characteristic of the variety.

Bright and sweet with hints of citrus when underripe. Similar to an excellent Kadota, but jammier when properly ripened. It’s described as an improved Kadota and I can see why.

 

Kadota - ~3 years old. Honey drop eye. 
Good Kadota.jpg 
Good Kadota 1.jpg 
When left to blacken and wither, they’re like sacks of sugar with a hint of date. Really great and misrepresented by much of what you get in the grocery stores. (First and second years' fruits were awful.)

 

UCR 291- 4 - 1.5 years. I’m going to wait this one out before I comment. It was decent, though. Closed eye.
UCR 291 4.jpg  UCR 291 4 smoosh.jpg 

 

Adriatic JH - 1.5 years old. Semi closed eye but it splits badly. 
Adriatic JH.jpg  Adriatic JH 1.jpg 
Adriatic JH 2.jpg 
Adriatic JH Bag Split.jpg 

One tasted like a fresh strawberry milkshake. Another had notes of caramel and another had notes of tropical fruit like pineapple and mango. The base of the fruit had a lot of exquisite flavor but the top half tasted like nothing. I'm sure this will improve, but its current strengths are excellent. 

 

LSU Scott’s Black - ~ 4 years old. Closed eye. 
LSU SB.jpg 
 
LSU SB Interior.jpg 
One had the flavor of a Raspberry Linzer cookie and was seriously good. The others were kind of gross - acidic with little sweetness and didn’t seem to ripen properly. I’m not sure what happened. Maybe next year. 

Violette de Bordeaux - 1.5 years old. Small, open eye.
 
RDB 1.jpg 
RDB 2.jpg 

Too young to assert itself. Decent. 

UCR 143-36 “Emerald Strawberry” - 1.5 years old. Closed eye.

Emerald Strawberry.jpg 
20150715_235500-1.jpg 
Truly excellent. One tasted exactly like a black plum, others had a strong figgy flavor with a ton of sweetness. The rain kicked in pretty hard when they started to ripen so allowing the skin to wither wasn’t really possible. Regardless of how juicy the figs got, they retained great flavor and sugar while resisting splitting. 

 

The unranked winners so far have been Smith, UCR 143-36, RDB, Adriatic JH, Kadota, Excel, Unknown, and Hollier. The trees are still young, so hopefully the others mature nicely.


If all the baby fruit on some of my other varieties ripen, I’ll make another post in a few months with reviews of CDDG, Unknown Owensboro, Stella, Mary Lane, and perhaps others. 

 

Thanks for reading and happy harvest. 



__________________

10B

Wishlist: Pajarero/Calabacita, Fiaschetta lunga di Campagnola, Cajun Gold, Marangiana, Rigato del Salento, Black Ischia, Lampeira, Dottato d'Élia, Watt's Zingarella, 187-25, and Peloponnisiaka aspra sika.

eboone

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,154
Reply with quote  #2 

Thanks for the review!  Very detailed!

Can you post a pic of leaves of your neighborhood unknown?  You're in the South, its a smallish purple fig, so it is Celeste until shown otherwise.  :)

__________________
Ed
Zone 6A - Southwest PA     
---------------------------
Wish list: a bountiful harvest to share and enjoy... and an Improved Celeste
Tejas

Registered:
Posts: 67
Reply with quote  #3 
Great pics and data! Thank you for sharing.
__________________
Max

Roswell, Georgia

Zone 7b
pino

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 2,466
Reply with quote  #4 
Great job in growing them and picking them at the right time!
Thanks for showing them so nicely!

__________________

Pino, zone 6, Niagara
Wish List: Brogiotto Bianco, Fico Datto, Fiorone di Ruvo, Fracazzano Multicolore, Fiorone Oro, Popone, Rigato del Salento and other multi colour striped figs

Pino's Figs / Pino's Photos; 2017 Brebas / 2017 Main crop

Rewton

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 2,031
Reply with quote  #5 
Yes, that was a very interesting tour of your figs and their taste - thanks.
__________________
Steve MD zone 7a

Jerry_M

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 350
Reply with quote  #6 
Thanks for posting. I now know what i have to look forward to. I have these except for the unknown, Excel, 291 and 143.
__________________
Jerry, Canyon Lake, TX 8b 
Figaro

Registered:
Posts: 436
Reply with quote  #7 
Levar,

Great review and nice job on the pics and reviews.  So far, my UCR 291-4's haven't produced anything impressive, either, so jury is still out for me, too.  I do have a bunch ripening right now and hoping to see some improvement.  My UCR 143-36 hasn't produced anything yet, so it's good to hear yours has and it definitely sounds like a keeper.  Hopefully the LSU-SB's will get more consistently flavorful as the tree matures.

__________________
============================
[B]Figaro Zone 10b - South Florida[/I]
Growing: Black Mission, Strawberry Verte, LSU Hollier, LSU Purple, LSU Scotts Black, Cajun Gold, Panachee, Excel, UCR 291-4, UCR 143-36, Violette de Bordeaux, Ronde de Bordeaux, Calvert,  Black Madeira, Col De Dame Blanc
Wish List:
 CdDN, CdDG, Ischia Black, Galicia Negra
============================
pawpawbill

Registered:
Posts: 282
Reply with quote  #8 
Nice review. Nematode issues way down south?
jdsfrance

Registered:
Posts: 2,736
Reply with quote  #9 
Hi levar,
Nice report ! thanks for sharing !

__________________
------------------------
Climate from -25°C to + 35°C
Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here
DonCentralTexas

Registered:
Posts: 504
Reply with quote  #10 
Great post! Thanks for taking the time to review those figs.
__________________
Don  (Near Austin, TX zone 8b)

If you have these for sale/trade PM me:  Calderona,  Noire de Barbentane, Navid's Unk Dark Greek
bo3antar

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 31
Reply with quote  #11 
great work

thank you for sharing

__________________
Kuwait
AltadenaMara

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 445
Reply with quote  #12 
Thanks so much for the information, especially the taste report. I'm growing a few of these and hope to taste some soon.
__________________

Mara  Southern California  Zone 1990= 9b   2012= 10a  2020=?

 

DesertDance

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 4,507
Reply with quote  #13 
I love the taste report too!  Thanks for posting this great review!

Suzi

__________________
Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!"  Wish List:  I wish all of you happy fig collecting!  My wishes have been fulfilled!
FiggyFrank

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 2,755
Reply with quote  #14 
Great info.  Thanks for taking the time to post this!
__________________
Frank
zone 7a - VA
eboone

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,154
Reply with quote  #15 
A slight correction of what is probably a typo - Emerald Strawberry is UCR 143-36
__________________
Ed
Zone 6A - Southwest PA     
---------------------------
Wish list: a bountiful harvest to share and enjoy... and an Improved Celeste
figpig_66

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 3,125
Reply with quote  #16 
Thanks for your time and grate reviews. Nice to see what these figs look like. And a taste profile
What is that growing out the eye of the excell fig ?
Never seen that before

__________________
RICHIE BONI
HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID
WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity
Wish list. Col de dame blanc
Col de rimada
Lsu numbered figs
DesertDance

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 4,507
Reply with quote  #17 
Richard, sometimes figs go inside out.  Happens a lot.  Usually on one or two figs, but not all.  They just burst out of the eye.  Sort of like an anomaly,  Seen it many times. 

Suzi

__________________
Zone 9b, Southern California. "First year they sleep, Second year they creep, Third year they leap!"  Wish List:  I wish all of you happy fig collecting!  My wishes have been fulfilled!
figpig_66

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 3,125
Reply with quote  #18 
That was crazy looking. Thanks suzi.
__________________
RICHIE BONI
HICKORY LOUISIANA ZONE 8B WARM HUMID
WINRERS ARE VERY MILD LOW 20'S BUT WARMS RIGHT UP DURING THE DAY. SUMMER IS EXTREMELY HOT & HUMID 100 degrees 100% humidity fig tree grow like crazy but some split from rain & humidity
Wish list. Col de dame blanc
Col de rimada
Lsu numbered figs
leon_edmond

Registered:
Posts: 1,006
Reply with quote  #19 
I'm disputing your Adriatic JH- where did you obtain yours? First look, a true Adriatic JH has a red pulp, yours looks peachy looking. Second, my Adriatic JH does not split. It's just my observation because if yours is not a true Adriatic JH, you need to get the real one! I can send you a few cuttings in the fall.

Other than question, your photos are very good and educational! Thank you.

Leon
levar

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 215
Reply with quote  #20 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leon_edmond
I'm disputing your Adriatic JH- where did you obtain yours? First look, a true Adriatic JH has a red pulp, yours looks peachy looking. Second, my Adriatic JH does not split. It's just my observation because if yours is not a true Adriatic JH, you need to get the real one! I can send you a few cuttings in the fall.

Other than question, your photos are very good and educational! Thank you.

Leon


Thanks for the offer and I'd like to take you up on it.

I got mine from drivewayfarmer and while I'm not going to be the one to question his honesty, maybe there was a mixup. 

The interior of the fruit is bright red when it's slightly underripe.
AdJH underripe 1.jpg  AdJH underripe 2.jpg 
But this tastes like garbage. It's bland and acidic with a slight sweetness that bears zero relation to great flavor that comes with when the fruit turns into what you see below.


JH Adriatic .jpg 
Jh Adriatic 1.jpg 

Regardless of color, 80 - 90% of the dozen or so fruits I got this year split badly - the worst of my collection. I give the AJHs about as much water as any of my other figs, almost none of which have splitting issues. If a true AJH doesn't split easily, then perhaps I don't have one. 




__________________

10B

Wishlist: Pajarero/Calabacita, Fiaschetta lunga di Campagnola, Cajun Gold, Marangiana, Rigato del Salento, Black Ischia, Lampeira, Dottato d'Élia, Watt's Zingarella, 187-25, and Peloponnisiaka aspra sika.

levar

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 215
Reply with quote  #21 
Thanks, everyone. I hope it's helpful.

Quote:
Originally Posted by eboone

Thanks for the review!  Very detailed!

Can you post a pic of leaves of your neighborhood unknown?  You're in the South, its a smallish purple fig, so it is Celeste until shown otherwise.  :)


Thanks! 

Here are the leaves for the unknown.
20150718_115024.jpg 
20150718_115119-1.jpg 
Also, thanks for the correction on the 143-36. I think I wrote the number down incorrectly and used that as a reference.




Thanks to DesertDance for mentioning that the photo of the inverted Excel is an anomaly; I updated the post to make a note of that. All the rest of them are shaped normally with a medium-small eye and sometimes a drop of honey.

 


And pawpawbill, nematodes are pretty bad down here.  Eventually, I want to experiment with different rootstocks to see if that helps, but I’ve got a ton of research to do yet. Containers with a consistent and relatively frequent fertilizing regimen works for now, though. 

 


Figaro, the 143-36 is really special; it can’t be older than 2 years and it’s already a winner. Let me know how it goes!






__________________

10B

Wishlist: Pajarero/Calabacita, Fiaschetta lunga di Campagnola, Cajun Gold, Marangiana, Rigato del Salento, Black Ischia, Lampeira, Dottato d'Élia, Watt's Zingarella, 187-25, and Peloponnisiaka aspra sika.

drivewayfarmer

Registered:
Posts: 774
Reply with quote  #22 
Levar , My JH Adriatic came directly from JH before he began sending cutting material only thru Encanto.
I'm very grateful he made it available because it has such an exceptional taste.
Mine is usually deep red inside , doesn't normally crack , but one I have in a greenhouse has cracked on occasion when badly over watered.
Also JHA is one fig that is usually quite good even a little under ripe.

__________________
Kerry Zone 5 NH
Wish list :Galicia Negra , Col de Dame Blanca/Negra  .
levar

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 215
Reply with quote  #23 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drivewayfarmer
Levar , My JH Adriatic came directly from JH before he began sending cutting material only thru Encanto.
I'm very grateful he made it available because it has such an exceptional taste.
Mine is usually deep red inside , doesn't normally crack , but one I have in a greenhouse has cracked on occasion when badly over watered.
Also JHA is one fig that is usually quite good even a little under ripe.


Interesting.
Similar to what happened in the greenhouse, maybe the variety is just very sensitive to Miami's humidity. But you're also on the East Coast, right? It might also be that it requires overall less water than other varieties. I'll play around with that.  

Still, this JHA has one of the most interesting, complex, and distinct set of flavors I've ever had from a piece of fruit. And maybe the tree is still too young for the underripe fruits to taste good. 


__________________

10B

Wishlist: Pajarero/Calabacita, Fiaschetta lunga di Campagnola, Cajun Gold, Marangiana, Rigato del Salento, Black Ischia, Lampeira, Dottato d'Élia, Watt's Zingarella, 187-25, and Peloponnisiaka aspra sika.

drivewayfarmer

Registered:
Posts: 774
Reply with quote  #24 
I'm on the East coast in NH.
Normally I remove the breba that form because like many breba they don't measure up to the quality of the main crop. This season on the greenhouse JHA I couldn't resist leaving just one breba. Had it a couple of weeks ago and this season it was much better ,still not as good as the main crop , but very very good. Made me wish I'd left them all on.

__________________
Kerry Zone 5 NH
Wish list :Galicia Negra , Col de Dame Blanca/Negra  .
rcantor

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 5,851
Reply with quote  #25 
Great post, thanks for the photos!
__________________
Zone 6, MO

Wish list:
Martineca Rimada, Galicia Negra, Fioroni Ruvo, De La Reina - Pons, Tauro, BFF, Sefrawi, Sbayi, Mavra Sika , Fillaciano Bianco, Corynth, Souadi, Acciano Purple, LSU Tiger, LSU Red, Cajun Gold, BB-10 any great tasting fig
Figgysid1

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 462
Reply with quote  #26 
I will give another thumbs up for peter's honey, #1 best fig I have right now, no splitting and ripens in nearly year round 80-100% humidity.  Flanders is also doing well in Hawaii, we have had 30 days of nearly constant all day and night rain and I just had one yesterday that was really good, tightly closed eye, no splitting at all. 


__________________
(Zone 12a) Big Island, Hawaii, 2,400 ft elevation, Fern Forest. Avg. July High 77,Avg.Jan.Low 56 Precipitation days 290, annual rainfall 201.80 inches.
levar

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 215
Reply with quote  #27 
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll definitely work on Peter's Honey and Dominick. 

I have two CDDs: Grise and Blanc. I was going to do a second 2015 post but a sweet little family of raccoons figured out what was going on in my yard so my first CDDs, Black Madeiras, Deannas, etc. all got eaten just days before they turned ripe. Not to mention the rest of my JH Adriatics and RdBs. I put organza bags on some ripening figs and because they couldn't remove the bags, they broke the branches off the tree.

So if anyone wants a Davy Crockett hat, just PM me.

__________________

10B

Wishlist: Pajarero/Calabacita, Fiaschetta lunga di Campagnola, Cajun Gold, Marangiana, Rigato del Salento, Black Ischia, Lampeira, Dottato d'Élia, Watt's Zingarella, 187-25, and Peloponnisiaka aspra sika.

Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply

Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox.