Register  |   | 
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment  
AL_Blake

Registered:
Posts: 116
Reply with quote  #1 
Just when you thought it was over...since my in grounders died back to the soil line from this year's record winter, I wonder how much this will set back the new growth. As of right now, there are tiny green nubs starting to grow.
__________________
Blake ZONE 8A AL

Wish list--Want to buy-- Native Black (Becnel farm), Figo Preto, LSU (Red, St. Gabriel Black, Scott's Yellow, Late Black, #156, #5), CDD B/G/N, Excel, Texas BA-1, RDB, Nero 600m, Sal's Corleone (Belleclare Nursery variety); Cajun Gold
Yeehova

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 209
Reply with quote  #2 
I was wondering the same thing. It is supposed to get into the mid 30s tonight in NC.
__________________

Brian
Wish list: Col de Dame
bullet08

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 6,911
Reply with quote  #3 
i'm taking everything into garage. now it's down to 30. it's nuts.
__________________
Pete
Durham, NC
Zone 7b

"don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
Darkman

Registered:
Posts: 639
Reply with quote  #4 
I'll have to bring in just the tender stuff which of course is soaking wet! Wife will not be happy. Will this Winter every end? 31 expected tonight. Last freeze date is supposed to February 20 here. Our average low is 56F for April. Record low for tomorrow is 38F. I hope they are wrong.
__________________
Charles in Pensacola AKA Darkman
Zone 8b/9a
Winter of 09/10 low 19
Winter of 10/11 low 19
Winter of 11/12 low 29
Winter of 12/13 low 31
Winter of 13/14 low 19
Dieseler

Registered:
Posts: 8,235
Reply with quote  #5 
Hopefully spring will come around soon.
susieqz

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,008
Reply with quote  #6 
it's good that you're getting ready. that front hit here sunday nite with temps down to 27.this was after days in the 80s.

it's finally over. i woketo a balmy 33. thing is, there was12 hours straight below freezing,  so i lost plants, tho i got the figs in the house.

this has gotta be the last one.

__________________
susie,
burner of trees
 
 
eboone

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,154
Reply with quote  #7 
Predicted low 20 degrees here tonight!!!   :(
I don't have any inground trees yet, and the fig shuffle is not a burden yet. 
And fortunately my orchard of apples, pears, peaches, nectarines and plums has not bloomed yet.  :)

__________________
Ed
Zone 6A - Southwest PA     
---------------------------
Wish list: a bountiful harvest to share and enjoy... and an Improved Celeste
bullet08

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 6,911
Reply with quote  #8 
i'm tempted to just leave everything outside. the temp will stay around 32 for just couple of hours around sunrise. 
__________________
Pete
Durham, NC
Zone 7b

"don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
susieqz

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,008
Reply with quote  #9 
pete, if it's only a couple of hours you're lucky. perhaps it's moderating.

after12 hours below freezing i was pleasantly surprised to see the plants i  put in last week, virginia creeper and honeysuckles seem to be alive.
these are zone 3 and 4 plants tho.

__________________
susie,
burner of trees
 
 
billy450

Registered:
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #10 

New member here, north of Blake in N Alabama, zone 7a.  Did a search, trying to find out if everyone's had winter kill this go-around.  My mature Brown Turkey figs, maybe 4 years in the ground, maybe 4-5 inch diameter trunks, maybe 8 feet tall before I pruned this winter, are obviously winter killed.  Question: cut them back to ground now, or wait and see if new growth comes out of trunks and prune above that line?  There are cracks/splits in trunks, water/sap draining from them.  Really distressed as I was pleased to have actually done well with these since I'm not really a green thumb kind of guy.  We had several nights below 10 degress this winter.


__________________
N Alabama Zone 7a
MariannaMiller

Registered:
Posts: 280
Reply with quote  #11 
Pretty sick of this winter and will be doing the fig shuffle and bringing all my pots inside for the next couple of nights.  All my ingrounders look like they have died back to the roots. I see new shoots coming up on some of them so I know that not all is lost. Its a reminder that even older trees are vulnerable to a harsh winter in 7b. Will be taking more cuttings of my favorites in early winter and keeping some for myself in the future as well putting wood aside for sharing.

Bad year for figs but on the plus side, It has been a great spring for transplanting blueberries, currents and jostaberries. For the first time I turned a whole bunch of my fruit tree prunings into scions, built a rooting box, applied some clonex and planted them to see what would happen. Looks like the majority have rooted but I will wait another month before attempting to transplant them into pots and starting to crow.

Don't know about the rest of the SE but after 3 years of drought, the tick population here has staged a huge comeback this year.  While stopping just short of growing to the size of a Dungeness crab in my yard, they are very large and plentiful. Its a good year to exercise a bit more caution and to think twice about whether you really hate Deet enough to risk hosting one of these critters long enough to risk infection with one of the half a dozen diseases for which they are vectors.



__________________
Wish list: Patlicans, Adriatic, Salem Dark, 
In Ground: Alma, Brunswick,Bryant Dark, BT, Celeste, Dominic, HC, It. Honey,LSU Purple, Mission Black, Sarizeybek;  
In pots: Ashlan, Atreano, Blk Bethlehem, El Molino Unk.,Excel, DK, Gr. Ischia, Kadota, Lattarula, Lettizia, Nero 600, Marseilles Blk,  Neveralla, VDB, Olympian, Petit Negri, Unk. Plainfield, Unk. Slidell Blk, Sweet George, Unk Portuguese Purple, Unk. It. Yellow, White Genoa, White Tx Everbearing; Madison SC 29693 (7a/7b)
SoniSoni

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 776
Reply with quote  #12 
  I give up!  I'm in the wrong part of the world to grow figs.  its going down to 30. Good bye figs, I never knew you.
__________________
Soni   GA. 7-8.  
 seeking Galicia Negra, Bianchi Guido, Violette de Sollies, Emerald Strawberry
Pattee

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,414
Reply with quote  #13 
Just amazing what we do to grow figs !!
__________________
7a & 9b ►I assume all my figs carry FMV ◄

Seeking :  Italian 376,395 , Galicia Negra, Negretta,UNK Pastilliere ,Pananas Purple,  Malta Blk+purple/red, Italian + Calabrian UNK's , Catanzaro, Malone, Sucrette(Baud)


"We may have our private opinions but why should they be a bar to the meeting of hearts?"
-  Gandhi
rcantor

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 5,851
Reply with quote  #14 
I would put a blanket over any green growth you can't bring inside and put plastic over that.  Hanging Christmas lights under it will protect even more.

Billy, welcome to the forum.  I'd protect whatever's leaking sap so it doesn't freeze and crack worse then wait and see what the tree does.  If it's leaking sap it's not dead.  If the cracks are high enough up you could cut them all off and try to root the cut parts.  You could also bind the cracks up and see if you can get them to heal.  You could also airlayer the parts at the cracks.

__________________
Zone 6, MO

Wish list:
Martineca Rimada, Galicia Negra, Fioroni Ruvo, De La Reina - Pons, Tauro, BFF, Sefrawi, Sbayi, Mavra Sika , Fillaciano Bianco, Corynth, Souadi, Acciano Purple, LSU Tiger, LSU Red, Cajun Gold, BB-10 any great tasting fig
OttawanZ5

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 2,544
Reply with quote  #15 
Al_Blake

How much this one correspond to in F tonite? My figs don't want to wake up knowing they can't do much until mid-May anyway.

Tue
15 Apr

Snow
  • -10°C

__________________
Ottawan-Z5a, Canada
billy450

Registered:
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #16 
So after further reading, Brown Turkey is apparently not hardy to say 0-5 degrees.  All new growth branches from last year are dead, snap crackle pop.  To cover trees/bushes would be somewhat impractical without major pruning.  Thus the question becomes, prune it way back every year and cover, or go with a more cold hardy variety.  Really like these brown turkey figs, they are fabulous canned or dried.  Do most folks routinely prune all the way back to say a 5X5X5 size and cover every winter?  My bushes, though apparently mostly dead now, are about 10 feet across.  The early figs have never made, so it would only be the fall crop anyway.  Bob, I'll keep an eye on them obviously and see what they want to do.  I assumed these were mature enough not to worry about, at least not the main trunks.  Not too terribly worried about the light freeze tonight, I have no new growth that I can detect at this point.  A little worried about my peach, apple and cherry trees though, but not much I can do about those anyway.
__________________
N Alabama Zone 7a
Joe_Athens1945

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 365
Reply with quote  #17 
My Brown Turkey survived a winter in Athens GA without nary a lost branch. The winter lows in my backyard were about 23 degrees F, give or take. On the other hand, it is only now starting to wake up. Seems a bit slow for 7b.

We have a frost warning here for tonight. The B Turkey will get a blanket and maybe a string of XMas lights, depending on how lazy I am.

BTW: as to Brown Turkeys, I saw on the website of a nursery in Florida wherein they claimed that the name comes from turkeys liking to roost in these trees to eat the fruit. This, of course, is total BS. Or, at least I think it is BS. I always thought the etymology of the word goes to its country of origin.

Joe

__________________
Athens, GA USA
Zone 7b

My young trees in the ground and in pots: Brown Turkey, White Triana JM, Magnolia, Strawberry Verte, Violette de Bordeaux, Panache, UK Brooklyn Dark JP, Ronde de Bordeaux.
 
Wish list: St Rita
susieqz

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,008
Reply with quote  #18 
i understood BTs were zone 5 trees. not true?
__________________
susie,
burner of trees
 
 
Dieseler

Registered:
Posts: 8,235
Reply with quote  #19 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OttawanZ5
Al_Blake

How much this one correspond to in F tonite? My figs don't want to wake up knowing they can't do much until mid-May anyway.

Tue
15 Apr

Snow
  • -10°C



Hello Akram,

-10c =  14F
bullet08

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 6,911
Reply with quote  #20 
20 degee drop in temp in 2 hrs. overnight low at 30 predicted. i pulled everything into the garage.
__________________
Pete
Durham, NC
Zone 7b

"don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
recomer20

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 402
Reply with quote  #21 
Good bye, Lemon brebas! :(   I agree with Bob. Cold wind can do more damage than just cold. If plants are small enough, plastic sheeting/blankets are worth the trouble.
__________________
Rick C. Birmingham, AL z7b --- *INGROUND: S.C.Lemon ("Dr.Welch"), LSUpurple, Celeste (Std) *POTTED 3rd Yr: Alma, Atreano, BattGreen, GrnGreek, HardyChicago, ItalianBlack (Becnel), LSUGold?, MBvs, Sal's EL, Southern BT?, St.Jean, Jackie'sUnk *POTTED 2nd Yr: SunbirdUnkJP, BourjNoire, JHAdriatic, ValleNegra *ROOTING: RdB, ScottsBlk, BlkGreek-MN,Preto

AL_Blake

Registered:
Posts: 116
Reply with quote  #22 
Just pulled everything into the laundry room that was out--6 figs, a sugarcane jujube and a mammoth pineapple guava...
@ Akram & Martin, sorry I couldn't answer I can't take my phone in the prison.
As far as BT being hardy, my fathers tree, which is around 10 years old, made it and is now waking up. Some of the younger growth in it is now crispy but all in all 95% if the tree is good to go.

@ Bob C, I did just what you said so fingers crossed!!!

__________________
Blake ZONE 8A AL

Wish list--Want to buy-- Native Black (Becnel farm), Figo Preto, LSU (Red, St. Gabriel Black, Scott's Yellow, Late Black, #156, #5), CDD B/G/N, Excel, Texas BA-1, RDB, Nero 600m, Sal's Corleone (Belleclare Nursery variety); Cajun Gold
newnandawg

Registered:
Posts: 2,532
Reply with quote  #23 
The prognosticators are saying 29 here. If the wind keeps up at 30 gusts to 40 there want be any frost. But if it gets
that cold and windy, thats not good either. I am going to try some sheets on the in ground trees.
AL_Blake

Registered:
Posts: 116
Reply with quote  #24 
Rick C, I am planning a trip to Petals soon to get a Lemon fig and tour the grounds in general. I am so excited for the field trip.
__________________
Blake ZONE 8A AL

Wish list--Want to buy-- Native Black (Becnel farm), Figo Preto, LSU (Red, St. Gabriel Black, Scott's Yellow, Late Black, #156, #5), CDD B/G/N, Excel, Texas BA-1, RDB, Nero 600m, Sal's Corleone (Belleclare Nursery variety); Cajun Gold
AL_Blake

Registered:
Posts: 116
Reply with quote  #25 
A 32 degree prediction here means 28 at my house in the country. 
__________________
Blake ZONE 8A AL

Wish list--Want to buy-- Native Black (Becnel farm), Figo Preto, LSU (Red, St. Gabriel Black, Scott's Yellow, Late Black, #156, #5), CDD B/G/N, Excel, Texas BA-1, RDB, Nero 600m, Sal's Corleone (Belleclare Nursery variety); Cajun Gold
recomer20

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 402
Reply with quote  #26 
Nice, Blake. BTW Becnel's Black Italian is on ebay as we speak. Petals might have some PapaJohn's tucked away, too, if they're not out of stock. Enjoy your field trip. Now that tax season is officially over *hooray* hope to be able to get my weekends back for some exploring. 
__________________
Rick C. Birmingham, AL z7b --- *INGROUND: S.C.Lemon ("Dr.Welch"), LSUpurple, Celeste (Std) *POTTED 3rd Yr: Alma, Atreano, BattGreen, GrnGreek, HardyChicago, ItalianBlack (Becnel), LSUGold?, MBvs, Sal's EL, Southern BT?, St.Jean, Jackie'sUnk *POTTED 2nd Yr: SunbirdUnkJP, BourjNoire, JHAdriatic, ValleNegra *ROOTING: RdB, ScottsBlk, BlkGreek-MN,Preto

Yeehova

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 209
Reply with quote  #27 
My figs in ground are already leafing out. With an expected low of 33 what sort of dieback should I expect?
__________________

Brian
Wish list: Col de Dame
AL_Blake

Registered:
Posts: 116
Reply with quote  #28 
I picked up some the other day and its in transit as we speak!!!! Can you say SUPER STOKED!
Help me, what is Papajohns besides piazza?

__________________
Blake ZONE 8A AL

Wish list--Want to buy-- Native Black (Becnel farm), Figo Preto, LSU (Red, St. Gabriel Black, Scott's Yellow, Late Black, #156, #5), CDD B/G/N, Excel, Texas BA-1, RDB, Nero 600m, Sal's Corleone (Belleclare Nursery variety); Cajun Gold
Charitup

Registered:
Posts: 592
Reply with quote  #29 
I''m going with mostly tuff love tonight.  Only brought in a few of my pots.  Figs Pomegranate's and the few citrus I have.
__________________
goss
North Ga.
zone 7
AL_Blake

Registered:
Posts: 116
Reply with quote  #30 
Final low 32 but the good news is within the hour it rose to 36 so *maybe*  all is well...had to cover some pawpaw blooms too
__________________
Blake ZONE 8A AL

Wish list--Want to buy-- Native Black (Becnel farm), Figo Preto, LSU (Red, St. Gabriel Black, Scott's Yellow, Late Black, #156, #5), CDD B/G/N, Excel, Texas BA-1, RDB, Nero 600m, Sal's Corleone (Belleclare Nursery variety); Cajun Gold
billy450

Registered:
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #31 
31 in my neck of the woods.  If I can figure out pictures here....Anybody else have this?
 fig2.jpg 


__________________
N Alabama Zone 7a
billy450

Registered:
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #32 
Did picture come thru?  I can see it on my screen...
__________________
N Alabama Zone 7a
susieqz

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,008
Reply with quote  #33 
billy,i haven't seen this on figs, but i've seen it lots.

take a walk in the woods. you'll see lots of trees with healed scars from wounds that look like this. i think all you need do is protect it from bugs while it heals.

__________________
susie,
burner of trees
 
 
AL_Blake

Registered:
Posts: 116
Reply with quote  #34 
Maybe someone else can tell you Billy. I have no clue as to what that is.
__________________
Blake ZONE 8A AL

Wish list--Want to buy-- Native Black (Becnel farm), Figo Preto, LSU (Red, St. Gabriel Black, Scott's Yellow, Late Black, #156, #5), CDD B/G/N, Excel, Texas BA-1, RDB, Nero 600m, Sal's Corleone (Belleclare Nursery variety); Cajun Gold
Aaron4USA

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 2,967
Reply with quote  #35 
@billy450, Yes last several days there has been few posts about those cracklings on figs... some are due to dead wood cracking and some due to cold... SAD.
Sorry it happened to your big tree.
bullet08

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 6,911
Reply with quote  #36 
i would say crack due to cold weather, but if you look at the middle of crack, it looks as if someone jammed a screwdriver or something and twisted to crack it open. 
__________________
Pete
Durham, NC
Zone 7b

"don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
Chivas

Registered:
Posts: 1,675
Reply with quote  #37 
My biggest in ground tree died, i am hoping for the roots to be alive but all the bark started to bubble and peel off, cracks only happened around the the branch union off the trunk.
__________________
Canada Zone 6B
AL_Blake

Registered:
Posts: 116
Reply with quote  #38 
It doesn't get cold enough here to kills roots but dieback to the ground and the setback it causes just bites a big one.
__________________
Blake ZONE 8A AL

Wish list--Want to buy-- Native Black (Becnel farm), Figo Preto, LSU (Red, St. Gabriel Black, Scott's Yellow, Late Black, #156, #5), CDD B/G/N, Excel, Texas BA-1, RDB, Nero 600m, Sal's Corleone (Belleclare Nursery variety); Cajun Gold
billy450

Registered:
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #39 
fig1.jpg Here's a farther back photo, no sign of new growth, but it seems as Bob said if it's leaking it's not dead.  There are spots like that one on most every trunk.  Hoping for the best....

__________________
N Alabama Zone 7a
susieqz

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,008
Reply with quote  #40 
billy, that looks like a great tree. please show us a pic when it leafs out.
__________________
susie,
burner of trees
 
 
jdsfrance

Registered:
Posts: 2,736
Reply with quote  #41 
Hi billy450,
That is freeze damage. Sometimes water gets under the bark or in the inner of the trunk through a wound and with frost the water takes more volume and splits the bark.
I would put a tie around the trunk at that level to allow the trunk to graft back to itself.
It could mean that the trunk is toast as well. But you'll have to/I would wait until June or July before cutting anything .
You'll then be able to see more accurately what is still alive.

__________________
------------------------
Climate from -25°C to + 35°C
Only cold hardy figtrees can make it here
susieqz

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,008
Reply with quote  #42 
jds is correct, but such wounds aren't usually fatal.
__________________
susie,
burner of trees
 
 
Tejas

Registered:
Posts: 67
Reply with quote  #43 
I lost a lot of ends on limbs of my 3 year old Brown Turkey. First fig tree I ever planted and with hindsight would not have purchased BT. The weather was very nice in Atlanta a couple weeks ago, so I planted basil and tomatoes. Lost all the basil and most tomatoes in the cold snap 8 days ago or so. I should have paid heed to to saying in these parts to wait until after Easter to plant. I covered up or brought the other figs in and did not incur much damage to them. Mostly peter's Honey, Black Mission and Celeste.
__________________
Max

Roswell, Georgia

Zone 7b
billy450

Registered:
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #44 
Suzieqz, I had to prune to ground in early May, but new growth is now 7' tall!
Fig_August2014.JPG 


__________________
N Alabama Zone 7a
waynea

Registered:
Posts: 1,973
Reply with quote  #45 
Hey Billy, unbelievable growth, must have super roots. Where in North Alabama? I have land in Cedar Bluff and also Leesburg, on Weiss Lake.
billy450

Registered:
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #46 
North of Huntsville, almost in Tennessee.  Agree on the roots, very relieved these came back so well and so quickly.  Will have maybe a half-gallon of figs before first frost.  Whew.
__________________
N Alabama Zone 7a
waynea

Registered:
Posts: 1,973
Reply with quote  #47 
Sounds good, I purchased some UNK Genoas from a lady around the Huntsville area.
susieqz

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,008
Reply with quote  #48 
great news billy. i'm surprised you had to cut all the way back to the ground but it worked wonderfully.

i wish i could get that kinda growth.

__________________
susie,
burner of trees
 
 
Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply

Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox.