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gracemartinx

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Hello everyone...I'm new to the forum, and actually found it (with much relief, I might add) while searching for answers regarding my 5 precious babies.

Basic issues:
-Leaf drop starting
-A few leaves at the top have started curling weirdly under at the tips - see photo 2 below
-Just noticed yesterday 1-2 larger fully formed leaves look like the area surrounding the veins in the leaf are changing to a light burgundy, and the leaf looks dotted - see photo 1 below
-Need help identifying two of the other healthy ones.

Only 2 of my 5 are affected so far. One is a Brown Turkey, approx 6', in a large pot.

Other variety unknown...perhaps someone could identifY? It's leaves are the second to last ones. I think the figs were green?

Finally, I need help identifying one of my other health ones - I think when I ordered it that it was a french sounding name with c___ something violet in it? That one is quite healthy, and its leaf photo is the last one below.

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- I am in Zone 5b
-Towards the end of last season all my figs had their leaves yellow, blacken and drop, but fruit remained.
- I waited for figs to go dormant before bringing them inside. They stayed dormant in 55 degree weather for 2 ish months. Then had to move them out of the way of our contractors (we are remodeling) and the warm radient heat floors in my laundry room had yhem in leaf snd fruiting by mid january.
- I water them with water from my various fish tanks.
-I repotted them last fall into larger pots, soil a mix of peat moss, native dirt, pebbles pottery shards at bottom
- i did notice something munched on a few leaves...but I can find no signs of an insect other t han a few strands of very fine web

I sure would appreciate some help...thanks!

Grace
Michigan 5b

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gracemartinx

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Oh...and they are in a south facing sunporch...the two most healthy ones are by the door and regularly get 10 degree or colder wind drafting on them. The others are at the end of the room. I was thinking of plugging in a fan to blow on them, but was afraid they would dry out...
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Welcome to the forum Grace... Greetings from Cal...
They don't look that bad to me but I'm not that experienced. Comparing yours to others in cold weather areas, they look great. 
As far as identifying, seeing pics of ripened fruit along with the leaves seems to be the safest way to identify. 

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This is an educated guess:

The native soil part of your mix worries me only because they are inside so long. Who knows what kind of stuff could be in your root system. Without adequate winter light your figs have a tough time fighting off the soil issues. (If there are any and I suspect there are). The way to combat this is with some real spring sunlight and maybe some seaweed fertilizer or something like that. There are many different kinds. I would not fertilize until it went back outside. You do not want to push any more new growth inside than you have to. Your leaves do not look too bad to me and the situation should correct itself with sunlight. Also. Make sure you add lime to your pots if you have not already.

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gracemartinx

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Thanks! I am trying to catch whatever problems I might be having early this year, since the leaf drop happens so suddenly last year and I would hate to see it happen again especially this early in the season. I only got to FIGS out of all 5 of my plants last year, probably because I waited so long to get them outside. In other news, does anyone know of threads on here that talk about figs that survive the winters outdoors in zone 5 B?

I managed to identify the very last Fig pictured on my previous post. It is the Violette be Bordeaux.

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Here is a photo of the fruit (unripened) that is currently on the unidentified fig.
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Im willing to pluck one and cut it open if you think it might help...

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Zone 5 is tough but not impossible. I would concentrate on figs with a good breba crop like "king" aka "desert king". I have about 50 unknowns, mostly collected in zone 6 without protection. If you can wrap them well in the winter they should be fine.

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Don't cut open an unripe fruit - it wont help at all.  The webs are probably from spider mites.  Remove the webs then spray with neem oil or safer soap to get rid of them.  Your soil is fairly dense for figs.  be sure the bottom of the pots don't stay wet.  Fig roots like air plus water in the soil.  If there's too much water with no air you can get root rot and fungal problems.
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Martineca Rimada, Galicia Negra, Fioroni Ruvo, De La Reina - Pons, Tauro, BFF, Sefrawi, Sbayi, Mavra Sika , Fillaciano Bianco, Corynth, Souadi, Acciano Purple, LSU Tiger, LSU Red, Cajun Gold, BB-10 any great tasting fig
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Hi Grace,

I think you've got a couple things going on at least:

1. Figs need to be in temperatures below about 45 deg in order to stay dormant.  Obviously yours have awakened early.  Problem is they will leaf out, but there isn't enough light for them to do much photosynthesis.  So they are effectively slowly starving.  In this situation the growth will be lanky and thin, as can be observed in the photos.  Even though they are next to a sunny window, they are still not getting even close to enough light.  Leaves that don't get enough light may very well exhibit the symptoms you are noticing.  To compound the issue, it will be difficult to put them outside in a couple months when spring comes because those leaves will get sunburned unless you take great care in gradually increasing light levels. 

2.  Your potting mix is probably not ideal.  The pebbles and pottery chunks are doing nothing other than taking up space and making the pots heavy.  The peat moss is lowering the pH and providing water retention.  But you may not need either of those.  Dirt will be very heavy.  May I suggest you search hear for ideas on what you might want to use instead.  Many folks (myself included) use something that contains a lot of pine bark fines. 

3.  You may very well have mites, as someone suggested.  Spider mites leave little webs as a sign that they have been there, and I have had mites that congregate at the tips in droves but do not have webs.  These can be rubbed off, etc.

In my opinion, #1 is your biggest problem.  May not be much you can do about it at this point though, other than to add some grow lights.  That won't really solve the problem, but it will help a bit.  You really need to find somewhere for them to sleep during your long winters where it's 45 degrees or less (but mostly above freezing). 

Also, your summers may not be long enough to ripen a quality main crop fig. 

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Welcome to the forum Grace. You have some nice looking trees. I hope they make it until the weather gets warm enough to take them outside.
Rob, very good info and advice. You answered a couple of questions I also had in mind. Thanks for sharing.

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