Register  |   | 
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment  
ce4656

Registered:
Posts: 50
Reply with quote  #1 
Had great success with SIP containers last year using bills design but finding inexpensive durable large pots that are adequate for my large trees is not in my budget. The keg buckets are large enough and inexpensive but become weak with exposure to the sun. I recently found on Craigslist 55 gallon drums for sale locally for $15. They never had chemicals inside and were previously used to transport fruit juice. I'm planning on cutting them in half and making 2 sip containers from each barrel. Not bad $7.50 for a 25+ gallon container
dawgdrvr

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 215
Reply with quote  #2 
CE4656,
             I have had luck with growing tomato's in 1/2 drums for about 8  years now they will last about 5 years on average, before the bottom rusts out . 2 years ago I saw this infomercial for Flex Seal Leak Stopper. it's an rubber based paint   . So far so good  this will be my 3rd year using  these sprayed drums . I paint the outside flat black to attract heat, and to get a jump start on my Mater's . 


__________________
Cody
Grand Mound,WA 98579
Plantmaps Zone 7~A, Sunset Zone 4 and USDA Zone 8~A.

WISH LIST: San Pedro ,Breba & Early crop Figs and ANY figs from 'Belleclare Nursery'
ce4656

Registered:
Posts: 50
Reply with quote  #3 
Dawgdgrvr
The drums I purchased are plastic, so I think they should last a long time with no maintenance. I saw the pics of some of your plants in SIP containers, very impresive. It is amazing how fast they put on size. I'm gonna try different potting mix combinations this season.
saxonfig

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,374
Reply with quote  #4 
Hey guys. I'm glad to see some other folks who've been using drums like this. I haven't done so yet but was planning to try them if I can find some drums this season.

ce4656,
How do you set up the "SIP" containers?

Cody,
So you've been using the steel drums with good success? I was thinking more along the lines of the plastic ones. But if the steel ones have been working well for you I may just try some of those. I have a source for the steel drums but haven't found any plastic ones for a reasonable price yet.
 

__________________
Fig Well And Prosper!

Bill - SW KY. Zone 6b. 36.5N 
I'm fruitnut on ebay.
ce4656

Registered:
Posts: 50
Reply with quote  #5 
Hello Bill, set them up the same as bill from nj. There's a link to his page on the f4f homepage with step by step instructions how to build. It's fairly easy and not too expensive if you can find the drums cheap. Check on cragslist.org
http://figs4fun.com/bills_figs.html
drivewayfarmer

Registered:
Posts: 774
Reply with quote  #6 
This is a great topic.
Don't know if you saw this related thread last year , but in post #11, I show a picture of a large pot SIP I made that is a variation on Bills Fig sub irrigation setup.
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/subirrigation-containers-and-figs-5112306
May be a faster and less expensive  way to go with a plastic barrel as well.
Best,
Kerry

__________________
Kerry Zone 5 NH
Wish list :Galicia Negra , Col de Dame Blanca/Negra  .
71GTO

Registered:
Posts: 1,007
Reply with quote  #7 
I'm looking Into these set ups as well. Is there a certain type of potting mix you would need to use in these set ups?
__________________
NJ z7a

Wish list :
7deuce

Registered:
Posts: 566
Reply with quote  #8 

@Kerry- Nice design on your SIP.

@Marcus- Pro-mix is fine in SIP.


__________________
Jason V
Egg Harbor Twp., NJ/ Zone 7

Wishlist: Nothing.
71GTO

Registered:
Posts: 1,007
Reply with quote  #9 
Thanks Jason, that makes thing easier for me.
__________________
NJ z7a

Wish list :
saxonfig

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,374
Reply with quote  #10 
Thanks for the info guys. 

After being inspired by Dominick (nypd5229) on another thread, I watched some of those instuctional videos of those two kids on youtube with the set-ups they were calling Global Buckets. @Marcus. Those guys said that a mix that's high in peat does a good job of wicking the moisture up through the soil.

 Here's the link to Dom's thread: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/MA-Self-Watering-Containers-5367144?highlight=watering+containers  Very worth your while to check out that thread.

After seeing how well this worked for Dominick I figured I'd just have to try it this year.

I think the high peat mix would be great for growing Blueberries in containers like this. Of course if you use the mix with mostly peat you have to be sure to add lime to bring the PH up for fig trees.

I'm also planning to grow some banana and papaya plants in self-watering containers. Looking forward to seeing how it all goes.

__________________
Fig Well And Prosper!

Bill - SW KY. Zone 6b. 36.5N 
I'm fruitnut on ebay.
pitangadiego

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 5,516
Reply with quote  #11 
My plan is to use the blue 55 gallon drums, cut in half, and some drain holes. Will probably start doing it this Spring. I tghink your on the right track.

__________________
Encanto Farms Nursery
http://encantofarms.com
http://figs4fun.com
http://webebananas.com
"pitangadiego" everywhere
Gr8Figs

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 212
Reply with quote  #12 
         A circular saw works well for cutting the plastic drums.Trace the cut around the barrel with a string and Sharpie marker.Set the depth of the blade cut so that it just cuts through the plastic for a clean cut and this will reduce blade kickback,but be careful.

__________________
Barry Northeast Georgia 8a Wish List:Medium-Small Size,Dark Cold Hardy Figs

Low Temperature of 4F in 2015,17F in 2016,17F in 2017
drivewayfarmer

Registered:
Posts: 774
Reply with quote  #13 
This site called Inside Urban Green has lots of info on various types of SIP's.
I know they had something awhile back on using 55 gallon drums as SIP's , but I can't seem to find it now.
Worth checking out:
http://www.insideurbangreen.org/corrugated-drain-pipe-cdp-sip/

__________________
Kerry Zone 5 NH
Wish list :Galicia Negra , Col de Dame Blanca/Negra  .
theman7676

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 361
Reply with quote  #14 
kerry - thanks for the posts and for the links provided

what did you do over the winter with the large sip planter you showed above? i mean in terms of storage and water?
do you use the same soil mix as dominic? will the soil mix still be good next year if you didnt water over  the winter time?

i recall dominc's thread and the impressive results. i think i was a little discourage once i realize it was a 5 gallon bucket with a life spend of about 2 seasons, which i figured was maybe too much effort in terms of time and money for such short duration.
55 gallon however is another story. i imagine this is the last location of those trees- no?


__________________
wish list:
Florea
Nordland
Tacoma Violet
LaRadek's English Brown Turkey
dawgdrvr

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 215
Reply with quote  #15 
Saxon, I use the closed headed drums with the 2"  and 3/4 " Bungs in the top. I simply find the center.  mark it with a sharpy, then use a plum bob with Flo-orange. Make a few small pilot holes and cut in half with my Saws-All . Debur the lip and then crimp it 1/2" so as to not cut my clumsy self. Been there done that!

71GTO,
The only potting soil that I use when doing any type of above ground gardening . (planter boxes, pots , Tires and or  raised beds). is Mel's mix from "Square Foot Gardening" books . its 1/3rd each Peat, Vermiculite or Perlite  and Compost. The mix is lite and airy ,promotes good drainage and provides some nutrients due to the compost. I have been using the Square Ft. garden method for many a year .

__________________
Cody
Grand Mound,WA 98579
Plantmaps Zone 7~A, Sunset Zone 4 and USDA Zone 8~A.

WISH LIST: San Pedro ,Breba & Early crop Figs and ANY figs from 'Belleclare Nursery'
drivewayfarmer

Registered:
Posts: 774
Reply with quote  #16 
theman ,
The large planters go into the barn/garage basement for the winter. Temps in there are 20F at the lowest and normally 25F-35F for most of the winter.
This storage area has a dirt floor and is fairly humid so in preparation for storage I make sure the water resevoir is fully drained and that the soil mix is damp. Because of the humid storage conditions no water addition is needed until maybe just before I take them out to start the fig shuffle as Martin calls it.
My potting mix for these large pots is basically something like Pro-Mix with extra compost and perlite and some organic fertilizer called Pro-Gro. I am always trying to improve it , but this is what i have been using:
60 quart bag -of a locally available organic mix/ equivalent of Pro-Mix Bx
8 quarts of extra coarse Perlite
3 to 6  quarts of compost or worm castings (have my own worm herd so it is cheap).
2 cups of Pro-Gro organic fertilizer 5-3-4
1 cup of dolomitic limestone
1/2 cup of greensand
That is my basic fig mix , but I side dress with more Pro-Gro during the season every week or two.
This mix should be fine for 3-4 seasons between root prunings.
I only have 15 of these pots with figs now , the rest are used for tomatoes and peppers mostly. All of the rest of my figs are in 5 gallon SIP's like Dominick's and because of lack of space I need to see if with a quick and simple root pruning every year or every other year , I can keep them in those and get a decent yield. By quick root pruning I mean pull them out and slice off the bottom quarter of the root ball and make a couple of slices down the sides of the root ball with a knife. This season I should get a good sense of how well that will work or not for me in my situation.


__________________
Kerry Zone 5 NH
Wish list :Galicia Negra , Col de Dame Blanca/Negra  .
ascpete

Registered:
Posts: 1,942
Reply with quote  #17 
55 gallon and 30 gallon plastic drums can be turned into self watering containers very easily. Of course there is a little work involved.
Most of my fig plants were grown in 5 gallon buckets last season, and most of those will be planted in ground this year. There are several tender varieties that will be planted in the barrels. I will be making 3 dozen self watering pots from 30 gallon barrels (the barrels were free, and contained a salt solution). I've been using the 5-1-1 (Composted pine bark - Peat - Perlite) potting mix, with good results in the regular containers. The SIP potting mix has to be 75-80 % peat or peat like for the proper wicking action to occur. I have had good success with a 4-1-1 mix ratio of Peat Moss-Fullers Earth-Perlite with 1 cup Pulverized Dolemite Limestone and 2 cups Espoma Garden-Tone Fertilizer per 5 gallon of mix.
Attached is an instructional video that uses one 55 gallon barrel to form most of the larger parts.


Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply

Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox.