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Please get a person with some knowledge to explain to you what it takes to prove these things under federal law since you want to go fed, most of all get them to explain "knowingly and willfully" as you seem not to be able to comprehend the term. Those three words are used to qualify all verbiage below them by basically defining "intent". 

Who on this post has stated they intend to lie on a complaint? Did I miss that somewhere? Or do you have a reason to imply all these people are going to lie on their complaint? Please let us know which it is, inquiring minds would like to know. It seems you are accusing a forum member of lying to me. Am I wrong? 

Filing a valid complaint has zero to do with any of these continuing attempts at intimidation. It is a right, not a privilege. You cannot be charged in any way for filing a valid complaint.

Interestingly a person can be charged for denying people their civil rights through intentionally intimidating them....funny how the law works isn't it? It has always been there to protect the innocent not the guilty.

You have nothing to fear from filing a complaint.

I wish all states had Civics as a required subject, it is amazing to learn how the Justice system works especially the basic tenets of law since we have the U.S. Constitution, Fifth Amendment (“Nor shall any persons be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law”). We have a legal right to demand due process to recover property. Why would some people imply you will break the law in doing so? I am soooo confused by this attitude. 

Why will you not answer the question, why are you trying to protect him?

If this is what appears to be a rip off, scam, deception, fraud or what ever term may be applied it seems to me it is time for law enforcement to get involved. But strangely not to you........... 

What is your motive in this? You don't by any chance sell cuttings do you?


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Excuse me, sir, click on the second link and read what it says. Are you saying the FBI is making a hollow threat?


You are making assumptions or accusations that people are lying, I seriously doubt anyone is lying about James W Sperman not delivering figs or cuttings ordered from his website under his full control.

The only one making threats is you.


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JMRTSUS-You still have not provided a credible source for "malicious intent", we have nothing to talk about, you and I.
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OK Lewi, your friend nunuorig said he ordered trees 2 years ago.



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You could provide some evidence to support your claim. But you didn't, why?

From the IC3 website:



This thread has plenty of false information. And people certainly do have malicious intent.


By saying, people with "malicious intent" are bent on filing "false information"; you are saying that Bobkelly1 and others are lying.

And now, you have launched into a useless tirade of circular logic. You deflected my questions...

So I ask again, what relationship, kinship, or association do you have with James W Sperman, and/or figcuttings.com?



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OK Lewi, your friend nunuorig said he ordered trees 2 years ago.





IT FEELS LIKE IT! when you order in 2015, and it's now 2017, it feels longer!

That is not malicious intent, I am sure he will give accurate dates to our esteemed F.B.I.

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You don't need to move the goalpost, Lewi. As to your other questions i decline to answer, since we are currently at odds it seems.
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OK Lewi, your friend nunuorig said he ordered trees 2 years ago.


No I didn't.  I ordered 3 tree's March 9.

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2. It's been over 2 years, and the offer was for delivery within this growing cycle. He should have returned the money instead of telling me to F-off.


What is that? 

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I keep seeing false claims, the only false claims have been made by James. If I can get arrested for filing a report when I was ripped off, I'm leaving this country. A government that punishes the victim?  Sounds like a very bad place to live.
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What is that?


Where do you see me saying I purchased the tree's 2 years ago??  That is a reply to how long it's been people have been waiting for their tree's.

Why are you so argumentative looking for any glimpse to call people out??  Are you that so removed from people, you need to find anyway to make yourself feel better?  Do you really believe if you flight tooth and nail for your point, anyone is going to recognize you as intelligent?  You think James is going to send you your tree's above other people?  You just continue to alienate yourself from the community with your far out comments and reaching, coming off desperate.

Just Chill Hoosier.  I appreciate your compassion, but take a pause and look at people's complaints at face value.


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1. I found James website through a Google search, which looks like a regular store front with no mention of special offer to members.

2. It's been over 2 years, and the offer was for delivery within this growing cycle. He should have returned the money instead of telling me to F-off.


OK, line #2 looks like a poorly worded sentance...

Maybe the first part is refering to the original offer of 7 dollar trees (from 2015, actually about 1 year four monthes ago) not being delivered. The second part MUST be refering to his order, because he mentions "this growing cycle".

So long as he can prove when he bought trees, and that they were not delivered by the agreed upon date, he has a case. BUT he should thank you (hoosierBANANA) for making sure he does not make that calender error when he does file with the nations highest law enforcement agency.




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Drew, try harder to see the finer points of my argument. Unless you provide false information or omit important information you have nothing to worry about. But if someone files a complaint and says "people have been waiting 2 years" and they know full well that is impossible, haven't they opened themselves up? Can't you see that this guy is here for revenge and doesn't care how many people he takes down along with James?
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Drew, try harder to see the finer points of my argument. Unless you provide false information or omit important information you have nothing to worry about. But if someone files a complaint and says "people have been waiting 2 years" and they know full well that is impossible, haven't they opened themselves up? Can't you see that this guy is here for revenge and doesn't care how many people he takes down along with James?


I filed a complaint of my own situation. No-one else's, and provided the receipt.

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Where do you see me saying I purchased the tree's 2 years ago??  That is a reply to how long it's been people have been waiting for their tree's.

Why are you so argumentative looking for any glimpse to call people out??  Are you that so removed from people, you need to find anyway to make yourself feel better?  Do you really believe if you flight tooth and nail for your point, anyone is going to recognize you as intelligent?  You think James is going to send you your tree's above other people?  You just continue to alienate yourself from the community with your far out comments and reaching, coming off desperate.

Just Chill Hoosier.  I appreciate your compassion, but take a pause and look at people's complaints at face value.



Aha! Thought so...well you saw 2015 and made a small error. It sure seems like longer though.

I dont get upset at people like Frank Allen, or my friend Siveradocanman, they just want what they paid for! Their was a few warnings in the begining that many of us mistook for competition bad mouthing James.

JAMES PULLED THE PLUG. James used his pinkey toe as an excuse, James told us he could make 1500 trees of hard to root Black Madera from around 45 small trees (if he even has that many). James allegedly took an order for over 4000 dollars of fig trees from just one foriegn customer when he could not even fill orders for Forum Members.

James has no Honor.


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No matter how this turns out I can hold my head up. If you guys want to invite a dishonest and vindictive person into the community whose only goal seems to be to control people, just because they serve your cause then please don't speak of honor.
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Drew, try harder to see the finer points of my argument. Unless you provide false information or omit important information you have nothing to worry about. But if someone files a complaint and says "people have been waiting 2 years" and they know full well that is impossible, haven't they opened themselves up? Can't you see that this guy is here for revenge and doesn't care how many people he takes down along with James?


YOU WERE ALREADY TAKEN (down).

IT will be the lady with the 4000 USD + complaint that will spur action, maybe if ENOUGH complaints add up to some large amount, that may also trigger action on the behalf of those who lost smaller amounts of money.

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No matter how this turns out I can hold my head up. If you guys want to invite a dishonest and vindictive person into the community whose only goal seems to be to control people, just because they serve your cause then please don't speak of honor.


I dont remember inviting you. ;)

Get James W Sperman to deliver the proper cultivars, packaged to arrive in good shape, to everyone he took money from...and we will reconcider your application to our country club.

HONOR IS DOING WHAT YOU SAY ( Doing more than you say is optional).

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The guy whose wife wants her money back has a plan, and he's not trying to get anyone to file criminal complaints or peppering the thread with misinformation, he seems much more genuine and a real cause for concern. I hope things work out for everybody, how's that sound? If James does get shut down what happens to the tree's you guys ever think of that?

Maybe I just want to snipe you's newbies trees though ;) this is too fun.

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I fail to understand anyone that advocates ripping people off....seems to define insanity to me. This thread reminds me of many Hearings I did in Corrections and listened to one gang banger defending another in any way they could dream up without truth, reason or logic. They felt they were obligated to back their own. Do we have people that have personal reasons to try to stop legal complaints? I sure can't figure out why, can anyone else?
 
My training mentor often said "you can teach the ignorant, but not the stupid."  As I get older I understand that statement more each day. File your complaints folks...........the wall has a dent in it and my head hurts.....out of this train wreck.

Keep on Figgin'

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HONOR IS DOING WHAT YOU SAY ( Doing more than you say is optional). 


OK, should I expect my written apology in the mail then? You did not rise to the challenge of showing proof that i have defended James. Hey was that what those questions were about? You trickster ;)

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The guy whose wife wants her money back has a plan, and he's not trying to get anyone to file criminal complaints or peppering the thread with misinformation, he seems much more genuine and a real cause for concern. I hope things work out for everybody, how's that sound? If James does get shut down what happens to the tree's you guys ever think of that?

Maybe I just want to snipe you's newbies trees though ;) this is too fun.


If James is legit, he won't get taken down and you and many other people will get their trees. If he is NOT legit, then you and many others will NOT get their trees, and we would have stopped a crook from ripping other people off.

If I start seeing posts with a majority people getting their trees (not just a few friends of his), my view will change and I will offer a public apology. If I should get my trees, I will post as such, update my complaint to law enforcement noting I received delivery, and still post a public apology.

And yes, I am new to figs, and I'm hooked. I just ordered black Madeira cuttings and I-285's off eBay. :) I hope I can get them to root like my black mission.

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OK, should I expect my written apology in the mail then? You did not rise to the challenge of showing proof that i have defended James. Hey was that what those questions were about? You trickster ;)


I quoted you attacking victims of James W Sperman, and trying to scare them into not reporting it to the proper authorities...Using straw man legal arguments.

You never answered IF YOU HAVE HAD ANY TIES TO JAMES W. SPERMAN?

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OK next time an order from Amazon is late, I will call the FBI.  Sound right?


You make silly analogies/ arguments that dont fit the situation, in order to keep the heat off James W Sperman. THAT to me is a defense of James W Sperman.

What is the nature of your relationship with James W Sperman?

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If James is legit, he won't get taken down and you and many other people will get their trees. If he is NOT legit, then you and many others will NOT get their trees, and we would have stopped a crook from ripping other people off. If I start seeing posts with a majority people getting their trees (not just a few friends of his), my view will change and I will offer a public apology. If I should get my trees, I will post as such, update my complaint to law enforcement noting I received delivery, and still post a public apology. And yes, I am new to figs, and I'm hooked. I just ordered black Madeira cuttings and I-285's off eBay. :) I hope I can get them to root like my black mission.


This is off-topic, but make sure you are buying from a trusted seller.  A lot of people claim to sell rare varieties on ebay, but 12-24 months later you may find the fig is nothing like what they said it was.  When in doubt, you can post a thread asking about a specific seller.

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You make silly analogies/ arguments that dont fit the situation, in order to keep the heat off James W Sperman. THAT to me is a defense of James W Sperman. What is the nature of your relationship with James W Sperman?
Good point Lewi! The things that make you say Hmmm!?!

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Since it appears that James is getting ready to ship, all of this legal mumbo jumbo is an exercize in futility.
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Since it appears that James is getting ready to ship, all of this legal mumbo jumbo is an exercize in futility.


I once saw a YouTube video of a leprechaun riding a flying purple unicorn dropping gold coins on people. I sure hope that leprechan comes my way!

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Since it appears that James is getting ready to ship, all of this legal mumbo jumbo is an exercize in futility.


Not at all.  I would contend the following:

1.  Calling James out with defining possible illegalities has put a fire under his butt and magically healed his pinky toe.  And, you're welcome.  

2.  If you actually look at his newly and conveniently posted YT shipping videos, you'll see that the subject trees certainly did not take 1.5+ years to propagate.  I have newly propagated 2017 trees that have substantially more growth than his shippable inventory.  



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Not at all.  I would contend the following:

1.  Calling James out with defining possible illegalities has put a fire under his butt and magically healed his pinky toe.  And, you're welcome.  

2.  If you actually look at his newly and conveniently posted YT shipping videos, you'll see that the subject trees certainly did not take 1.5+ years to propagate.  I have newly propagated 2017 trees that have substantially more growth than his shippable inventory.  




Oh, he definitely did not ship trees as they were grown.  From the reports he gave, he was using air layering and other methods.  First gen trees were used to grow the inventory further, rather than fulfill orders.  He basically said as much.  If it were a one year deal then I would say his plan was to grow the inventory "exponentially" until he could fulfill all orders, no matter how long it took.  Since there are other years being sold, though, it's anyone's guess how big he needs the inventory to be before he feels comfortable parting with the first generation's quantity of trees.

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Oh, he definitely did not ship trees as they were grown.  From the reports he gave, he was using air layering and other methods.  First gen trees were used to grow the inventory further, rather than fulfill orders.  He basically said as much.  If it were a one year deal then I would say his plan was to grow the inventory "exponentially" until he could fulfill all orders, no matter how long it took.  Since there are other years being sold, though, it's anyone's guess how big he needs the inventory to be before he feels comfortable parting with the first generation's quantity of trees.


Hmm... That's certainly a speculation, however, not what Post #1 or the order page on his website advertised and that's a problem.  



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I guess I will say something about myself since Lewi and JMRTSUS have made downright fallacious accusations about me in an undying attempt to chop James down. Then again, you guys can decide if I was here to intimidate people or warn people from taking the advice of people who have obvious tribal alliances and will stoop to such lows as to lie about the legal risk of filing false reports to trick people into repeating false information or leaving out valid information....

I am an Iraq veteran who used the GI Bill to better myself, I studies Agribusiness Management and Entrepreneurship. I have been growing figs fr over 10 years and planted and manage a small orchard. I have no business with James currently, nor in the past. I'd like to see a stable fig market so dishonest people will not have an incentive to mislead new members, because they are destroying the community for their own gain.

Ask yourselves why a new member, who lies and puts others at legal risk, gets more respect from these viscious ignoramuses than someone with my qualifications. Ask yourselves why they stoop to personal insults rather than express valid opinions with supporting facts. 

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Everybody needs to take a deep breath here. Whatever James is doing is what James is doing. But we have good people pitting themselves against each other for no good reason. Leave it alone for a  few days. If you really feel you need to respond then take the time to craft a response that will not escalate things. 
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I guess I will say something about myself since Lewi and JMRTSUS have made downright fallacious accusations about me in an undying attempt to chop James down. Then again, you guys can decide if I was here to intimidate people or warn people from taking the advice of people who have obvious tribal alliances and will stoop to such lows as to lie about the legal risk of filing false reports to trick people into repeating false information or leaving out valid information....

I am an Iraq veteran who used the GI Bill to better myself, I studies Agribusiness Management and Entrepreneurship. I have been growing figs fr over 10 years and planted and manage a small orchard. I have no business with James currently, nor in the past. I'd like to see a stable fig market so dishonest people will not have an incentive to mislead new members, because they are destroying the community for their own gain.

Ask yourselves why a new member, who lies and puts others at legal risk, gets more respect from these viscious ignoramuses than someone with my qualifications. Ask yourselves why they stoop to personal insults rather than express valid opinions with supporting facts. 


No worries, Brent. You're still a good guy in my book, and if well people disagree.. then the hell with them, right?

Anyway. I agree with Brett. Can we please leave this thread alone? Based on this past year.. you could probably rename this forum to, "A Place to Talk About James' $7 Trees."

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Hmm... That's certainly a speculation, however, not what Post #1 or the order page on his website advertised and that's a problem.  


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The variety I get asked about more than any other is Black Madeira, which was the #1 most ordered tree, so I'll use it as an example to demonstrate.  My potted Black Madeiras started waking up a couple of weeks ago, and my in-ground ones just started waking up a couple of days ago.  My current Black Madeira inventory is as follows:  5 in-ground in greenhouses, 5 in 7gal pots, 10 in 3gal pots, 18 well-rooted young trees that need up-potted, and 11 more that are rooting in humidity bins and are looking good.  Combined, that's 38 trees with a good shot at up to 49 very shortly (let's conservatively estimate 45).  That total is far short of what is needed to satisfy all of the Black Madeira orders to date, but that is about to change drastically in the next few months.

Since the growing season for these Black Madeiras has already begun, and since I should get 30+ cuttings per potted plant and 50-100 cuttings per in-ground tree over the next 4 months, I'm on pace to have enough Black Madeira wood to provide around 1,500 cuttings by the last day of spring.  I won't put all of that wood toward cuttings, since some of it will be air-layered off along the way to help create more trees as quickly as possible, but the point is clear:  very soon we're going to cross a threshold and have more than enough material to fill all orders for trees and cuttings.  That's the power of exponential growth.  


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Cuttings season was further complicated by the fact that our trees slipped into dormancy at many different times due to having about 6 or 8 different types of environments (outdoor versus indoor; heated tunnels versus unheated tunnels; pit greenhouses versus above-ground greenhouses).  Since all cuttings have to be ready at the same time for them to be shipped out together in orders, and since I want all cuttings to be fresh when they're shipped, the options were to either leave them all on the trees (where they could be damaged, depending on the environment), to prune and refrigerate them (which contradicts my desire for freshness), or to prune them and plow them back into the propagation operation.  I decided on the last option because it seemed like a good way to save and create more wood while still preserving the original cutting; that is, once the green top of the resulting rooted tree is air-layered off, the original lignified cutting (now a baby tree trunk) can be reclaimed.


Not sure which part you say is speculation, but if you read the above quotes from James in this thread, you can see he has some BM inventory.  He's not shipping it.  And he's air-layering the ones he has and not sending out any cuttings.

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Originally Posted by hoosierbanana
I guess I will say something about myself since Lewi and JMRTSUS have made downright fallacious accusations about me in an undying attempt to chop James down. Then again, you guys can decide if I was here to intimidate people or warn people from taking the advice of people who have obvious tribal alliances and will stoop to such lows as to lie about the legal risk of filing false reports to trick people into repeating false information or leaving out valid information....

I am an Iraq veteran who used the GI Bill to better myself, I studies Agribusiness Management and Entrepreneurship. I have been growing figs fr over 10 years and planted and manage a small orchard. I have no business with James currently, nor in the past. I'd like to see a stable fig market so dishonest people will not have an incentive to mislead new members, because they are destroying the community for their own gain.

Ask yourselves why a new member, who lies and puts others at legal risk, gets more respect from these viscious ignoramuses than someone with my qualifications. Ask yourselves why they stoop to personal insults rather than express valid opinions with supporting facts. 


Brent,

Not to worry, the malicious behavior of these negative nellies is not earning them any respect, it is fear mongering at its worst. Add in the usual personal attacks when you don't agree with them as you pointed out.

And for some to take credit for the apparent movement in shipping! That it is due to their "pressure"! Hilarious!!!

Commence attacking the exclamation points boys!

Sorry, I know that is feeding the trolls...couldn't help myself. LOL

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Brent, Not to worry, the malicious behavior of these negative nellies is not earning them any respect, it is fear mongering at its worst. Add in the usual personal attacks when you don't agree with them as you pointed out. And for some to take credit for the apparent movement in shipping! That it is due to their "pressure"! Hilarious!!! Commence attacking the exclamation points boys! Sorry, I know that is feeding the trolls...couldn't help myself. LOL


"Negative Nillies, Trolls...."

Your off your rocker GIRL.

Go bark up another tree. I have a 50 USD order that is not shipped, delivered, Etc.

James allegedly ripping off people to the tune of thousands of dollars with non delivery shows intent. I have had broken ribs ( friendly fight with a lion/giant of Judah:) , yet I continued working...never went to the doctor.

I Sprained Ankle that made it painful to walk for weeks...yet I did with a Staff in hand all over Jerusalem, still did not go to the doctors.

when i was 10 i broke my nose ( still crooked) in a sledding accident...what did i do...I packed SNOW in my nostrols for hours because i WAS MORE AFRAID OF MY DAD and navy doctors that the pain and blood.

I was REALLY wild and young at 19, got drunk jumped into bonfire by accident (misjudged distance)
I put sea water ( mistake) on it, then later HONEY ( the best burn ointment, use seran wrap and you have the best burn dressing)....I was asked to go to a doctor because the oozing honey was attracting flies in class...:)  The Docs said if i did not use honey i would have needed a skin graft...

I have been hit by 18 an wheeler truck in a fiat 127 ( my fault)...

So you may now proceed to LAUGH :)....but what is the point of all this?

I have never USED FRIGGIN PINKEY TOE AS AN EXCUSE.

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Lewi, you remind me of a glass, real hard and rigid but no match for something as tough as reality.
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whatever BH. The point is what James W Spermsn did, or is doing (figcuttings dot com) is just wrong...

I suspect you know that.

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Lewi, you remind me of a glass, real hard and rigid but no match for something as tough as reality.


And easily broken like your fantasy...please read my post above, ok?

BTW never said i was Super Strong ...:) Just well spirited.

 

Just to add I sled full speed at at a 10" bar of steel others had built a ramp of snow on, the old sears sled had steering and you layed face down on it...so no I am not exactly glass. ;)

Point being I did not let it slow me down..a broken pinkey toe, sorry no sympathy here.

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Lewi, none of that has anything to do with growing figs. I shared something about myself that adds credit to this discussion: an education in Agribusiness Management and Entrepreneurship and experience growing figst. I was not a Marine, Wendy is not a boy, If you don't understand my reasons yet you never will.
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ok My bad, Misread your post. Your not a marine. (Edited my post , or will)


So in your opinion will 40 odd figs (Many very small) make 1500 if they are hard to root and and tissue culture is not an option?

Whatever branch of service you were in, did they teach you to keep going, or give up at the slightest pain? 

Would you run a Business the way James does? Sounds like a good way to piss people off!

 

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I was my platoon's combat lifesaver Lewi, they trusted that I wouldn't just save myself when SHTF.

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So in your opinion will 40 odd figs (Many very small) make 1500 if they are hard to root and and tissue culture is not an option?


Where are you pulling these numbers from? If people are making reports to the FBI that is exactly the sort of statement that could get them into trouble.

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Would you run a Business the way James does way? Sounds like a good way to piss people off! 


Your impression of how James runs his business is your own, and only your own.

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The 40 to 1500 number probably comes from Jame's comment that he had 38 BM trees and planned to have 1500 cuttings by the end of spring.  Some would go to cuttings orders, some to rooting trees.
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No worries, Brent. You're still a good guy in my book, and if well people disagree.. then the hell with them, right?

Anyway. I agree with Brett. Can we please leave this thread alone? Based on this past year.. you could probably rename this forum to, "A Place to Talk About James' $7 Trees."
Yes! and we can rename ourfigs to the traveling pink pony!! What about all of the drama over there with the Genovese nero seems Willis C has the only real one and anyone contest him they get their priveledges revoked.Wow I want to go there.This is a free forum and a lot of good people has spent good money not just $7.00 but hundreds even thousands and this is our way to vent out.If you do not get upset when someone steals from you then that's your business,but this is between James and his customers

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Thank you adipose. I see that was from March and am sure I read it but didn't remember the specifics or re-read it when you re-posted it.

Lewi, sorry for misunderstanding the situation, you were making an accurate generalization. The tissue culture part threw me a little bit. But what about it? Isn't it worth asking James about tissue culture? If we were using this thread to talk about growing and James was comfortable maybe it would have already come up a long time ago. If that is his #1 seller it might be worth the initial investment, as long as Agristarts agrees to give him sole propagation rights. I don't know the specifics about that stuff though so maybe you are right and it is not an option, or one that nobody would be willing to believe anymore.

I don't understand exactly what James means about propagating that many trees/cuttings that fast or what his plan is. There is no question that James is behind and has been over optimistic before. I can't say it is impossible, he is right though that figs can be multiplied exponentially. If he learned to bud graft and did some of the extra plants that nobody wants anymore would that work for anyone? It is a real bummer that communication is shut down, especially now that things have gotten really serious.

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So I just got off the phone with PayPal. They said my dispute was resolved in my favor. They said, PayPal has tries calling the merchant for 10 consecutive days without a response.

PayPal said if they receive enough complaints, this merchant will be banned from PayPal.

Good luck guys, I got my money back!

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So I just got off the phone with PayPal. They said my dispute was resolved in my favor. They said, PayPal has tries calling the merchant for 10 consecutive days without a response. PayPal said if they receive enough complaints, this merchant will be banned from PayPal. Good luck guys, I got my money back!
Was that for a recent transaction or did you get a refund from an old order?


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