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Glad you got some help!

Me too!  I had felt like I was starting to get buried and worn down, but the extra hands have really helped a lot  :)

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Trop, start a new thread with your question.  No one will see it here.
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You saw it,and all it takes is one. <grin>  :)












BTW: I think I have it pretty much figured out with the help of another media outlet.
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Thanks for the advice alanmercieca.

Sounds solid to me.I really wondered about giving supplemental lighting,but maybe guys are doing that for getting plants established.I hear ya on the light airy soil too.A good suggestion on watching the water as well.I pay pretty close attention to what a plant is a pot weighs,and can get a feel for when watering is needed.

Good point about the winter weather advice.My friend is in Mendo county,not Humbolt,but as you mentioned,he rarely gets any really cold weather.My Daughter in Medford however normally gets winter weather into the low 20's and upper teens,and fog that can last for weeks solid.She will need to bring her plants into the garage for the bad part of the winter.

Again,thanks for the advice.

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Ditto on all the above James.


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Me too!  I had felt like I was starting to get buried and worn down, but the extra hands have really helped a lot  :)

Seems that you are doing just fine. I personally adore the way you update us, in writing and visual. keep up your good work.
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Different Soils can vary a lot for wet and dry weight even if they are the same weight soil. Because some absorb way more water, and some drain way easier. Different weight pots too, different sizes and different matériels. Since I have experimented so much with different of all of those things that is why I never bothered trying to water by weight, and these people need to make sure they are careful of those things if they go by weight, yet if they are not plant people in any way then I highly suggest them keep getting moisture meters. Another option for non plant kind of people is self watering pots, Walmart sells some where there is a reservoir at the bottom to fill so there is no guessing, yet a fig tree can only be kept so long in a pot like that they only make them so big. yet some fig collectors make home-made self watering pots. Might any of them plant them in the ground some day?

Agree with alanmercieca . I am using pots and irrigation system connected to electric timer to make sure my fig tree gets sufficient and regular water in a hot season. Anyway, I have only 2 seasons, hot and rainy :-)
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July 1st estimated delivery date, and I can see that the trees won't be ready by then.  It's looking like the project is about a month or two behind schedule, so I'm thinking it may be late August before they're ready to ship out.


Hi James!

I just wanted to ask about an update from the trees, is late August still the date you think they can be ready to ship? No rush, just want to have everything ready when the trees arrive home. Thanks in advance!!

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Yes, I do think I'll be able to start shipping out orders at the end of the month.  Most of the trees should be ready by then, and the slower ones can finish growing while I'm busy packaging and shipping out the ready ones.  It's going to take a while to package and ship them all out (200 hours?), so it may be a few weeks beyond the end of the month before you get your trees. 

I'll email each person before shipping to verify their address and to make sure that it's a good time to ship :)

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Yes, I do think I'll be able to start shipping out orders at the end of the month.  Most of the trees should be ready by then, and the slower ones can finish growing while I'm busy packaging and shipping out the ready ones.  It's going to take a while to package and ship them all out (200 hours?), so it may be a few weeks beyond the end of the month before you get your trees. 

I'll email each person before shipping to verify their address and to make sure that it's a good time to ship :)


Very nice!!! Thanks for the update!!

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Hey James, Thanks for the update. Me personally, had  just as soon have mine shipped later! This heat in the South is Intense!
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James, I don't mind being at the end of the shipping list. August is our hottest month with September not much cooler.

Thanks for all your hard work.

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James, I'm in the same boat, later is also better for me.
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Maybe start with the colder regions to avoid heat. Even here in Michigan, it's 90 plus degrees right now, just about everyday. Hottest summer I ever remember! My figs are exploding from it too! My 2nd year and I should get hundreds of figs. I'm going to let them ripen as long as possible.
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For people in the north where it starts getting cold mid to late September, what is the recommendation?  Pot and let the leaves fall off as the nights get cool, then allow to go dormant within the first few weeks of arrival?  I'd prefer not to struggle to keep them warm and well lit throughout the winter.  It was more difficult than I thought and the plants struggled a lot more than the dormant ones to adjust to the outside move come spring.  I think the dormant plants had an extra month of growth where the inside plants sat dormant after moving outside.

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My lights are taken, I plan to let them go dormant. The ordered figs are growing right now, nothing different from the figs I have now. I will treat them the same.
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Drew, I think your idea is a good one.  By the end of August the nights will be getting colder up here and the day time temps will be safer for shipment and having a plant sit in a mailbox.  Also, it will give the plants time to acclimate to the cooling temps and more naturally transition into dormancy so that we can properly store them dormant for the winter.
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James, thank you for offering these figs already started.  It is much appreciated, just put in an order for March 2017.
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When does the window to order trees for 2017 close?

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Any updates on delivery? September is coming up quick, just wondering when the trees start shipping. I am waiting for my delivery prior to putting in another order for 2017. Thanks in advance for the info!
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James, Hopefully you will wait for a while before you ship to the South! We are still in the 90's and no letup In the near future! : )
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James, Hopefully you will wait for a while before you ship to the South! We are still in the 90's and no letup In the near future! : )
~yea frank good idea,i just recieved two tiny tissue culture trees from wellspring in florida i'm in pa.those roots were really dry but they were potted yesterday  when i received them. i watered them in good and set in shade,today they looked like they never even were in florida,but again they came in small tiny 2" pots and they were small,i have bought quite a few trees from them and in the hottest time of year and had all of them prosper well ~
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James, nobody has patience like a fig lover. We think nothing of ordering up to a year in advance. We can spot the tiniest new nub instantly, peek at it several times a day while envisioning the plump, juicy fig to come and not think it too burdensome that there is a wait for that fig. I had just ordered from you this morning and was very glad to see in this thread that you care more about your plants than the quick dollars. Keeping your customers posted on it when you think it might reflect negatively on you speaks more about your integrity than ebay reviews ever could, in my opinion. I have no worries my figs will come....I can see them already :)
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Nonetheless, it's probably a good idea to check in here every couple of weeks, if only to say, "not yet."  The date has slipped a few times, and the latest estimate was the end of this month.  We're there now :)
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There is estimated, yet another, heatwave for us in Cali starting next week.
I certainly am not in hurry to receive my order.

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Hey Frank, it's Frank from Alabama, I agree with you! It's hot as haties, here in Bama! I am sure NOT in a hurry to receive my little trees!
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Sounds like the time has come, sure hope to see "the" email in the next few days.
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Wow! Good job
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Thanks for the great offer! My order is in. Since I haven't had much luck with rooting cuttings on my own, your generous offer solves my problem.
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oops  I almost  forgot I orded  4 ? or  5 trees last year  Ha   I think it was 4  .. no hurry
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Hello. Are you planning to offer thiss again this winter?
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Hello. Are you planning to offer thiss again this winter?


Hey Denise, I am not the Guy who's doing this but he does have a 20017 selection here:

Cut and Paste this site:    http://www.figcuttings.com/p/custom-fig-tree-orders.html

Hope this helps! ; )

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Anyone had any contact with James recently about the trees?
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Anyone had any contact with James recently about the trees?


Good question!!

Anyone actually receive an email about shipping or receive any trees???
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Not yet.
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I've been following this since it was initially posted with curiosity. It seemed unlikely greenfin would be able to meet so many orders for such rare varieties. Now, 9 months later no one has received a thing and it seems greenfin is no longer answering emails or messages.

Sorry to say, but I think everyone bought into a Ponzi scheme but no one is getting a thing. He got his greenhouse heated for the winter and that's all. I'd demand my money back if I tried to buy anything. Besides, he bought cuttings on eBay to grow out without proving they are true to type (I know because he bought from me). One can hope all the sellers were honest, but we all know mistakes happen.

If you're thinking of buying for 2017, don't. He hasn't come through for spring of 2016! Take your money elsewhere. I can't believe the moderator has let this scam stay active for so long.
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So what he is going to do with all this trees he has in his greenhouse? 
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NOBODY should be making comments unless they have proof!! Several of us have dealt with James before with his cuttings! Unless you can prove what you are saying, it's best not to say anything that could ruin a person's reputation!
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It is not exactly true that greenfin is not answering emails. I contacted him with my concerns about the lack of updates and questioned the status of the project. This is an excerpt from his reply of September 2nd (I would not feel comfortable quoting from his email and posting here but because he did not post his update as he indicated and because of the amount of $ involved I think it is appropriate)...


"I've started shipping out some of the orders, but it's just a slow trickle. The hangup is that there are about a dozen varieties that have lagged behind, at first because of slow growth, but also because of difficult rooting which caused a lot (over half?) of them to fail. For example, whereas my propagation success rates for most varieties has been around 80-90%, my success rate with turning cuttings of the troublemakers like Black Madeira/I-258/Figo Preto/Maltese Beauty/Native de Argentile/etc into bonafide trees has been around 50% at best. That means I'm going to have to do another prune/root/grow cycle to further multiply the stock, which I think is going to add another 6-8 weeks.

I am very, very sorry about being so late! I feel horrible about these delays, they put my stomach in knots. I'm planning on doing updates on f4f tonight, and am absolutely dreading it. I hate letting people down like this.

The good news is that the project is still progressing and everyone will still get their trees, even if I have to heat all my greenhouses to keep them growing into the winter"

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I still have my concerns and he did not respond yet to my follow up question where I asked point blank if he can deliver the March 2017 trees on time. I have been concerned about putting in any more orders for myself before I see some orders fulfilled. I have not been able to understand how he can sell cuttings this winter of all the varieties he indicates he is having difficulty propagating and delivering that are past due (late August was the last update for the 2016 trees but now it looks like ???).
Anyway, it is not true that he is not responding to email and just because I do not understand his process does not mean that he is involved in anything but a well intentioned project that has encountered difficulties... I do have concerns but feel it is a little early to storm the castle.
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NOBODY should be making comments unless they have proof!! Several of us have dealt with James before with his cuttings! Unless you can prove what you are saying, it's best not to say anything that could ruin a person's reputation!


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I haven't heard anything yet
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NOBODY should be making comments unless they have proof!! Several of us have dealt with James before with his cuttings! Unless you can prove what you are saying, it's best not to say anything that could ruin a person's reputation!


No proof that he is mailing trees, either. Who are these people who he mailed to?

I do hope he comes through, but it is highly suspicious. The fact that he is pre-ordering for 2017 when he hasn't filled 2016 orders is insanity.

A fig in the hand is worth more than hypothetical plant not even being grown yet.
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It looks like his plan to pre-sell trees before he even had the cuttings was a poor plan.  I hope it works out for the people who have paid all this money up front.
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NOBODY should be making comments unless they have proof!! Several of us have dealt with James before with his cuttings! Unless you can prove what you are saying, it's best not to say anything that could ruin a person's reputation!


I would agree if you said "accusations" instead of "comments."  Certainly, even by his own statements, he was overly optimistic as to what he could accomplish.  He didn't take into account low success rates for rare varieties.  The comment that he was buying on ebay this year to propagate for cuttings sold this year is interesting, as well.  If any of those cuttings are the wrong variety, he won't know until after he's shipped trees.  This basically means we are buying trees from other sellers by proxy (albeit once removed), who we might not have otherwise trusted (since we don't know who they are, we can't say).

I don't think this is a deliberate scam, but I also think $7 was not realistic, especially for varieties that regularly sell for $50-$200 on ebay.  How can he possibly afford to buy a $50 tree on ebay and sell small trees for $7?  He'd have to get 7 successes out of a first year tree, which for an i-258 could be quite difficult (i-258 trees typically costing much more that $50 from reliable sellers).

I wish him luck--but I'm feeling that some refunds are going to be in order, and I'm not certain any of that seed capital is still available--unless you count money from 2017.

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I would agree if you said "accusations" instead of "comments."  Certainly, even by his own statements, he was overly optimistic as to what he could accomplish.  He didn't take into account low success rates for rare varieties.  The comment that he was buying on ebay this year to propagate for cuttings sold this year is interesting, as well.  If any of those cuttings are the wrong variety, he won't know until after he's shipped trees.  This basically means we are buying trees from other sellers by proxy (albeit once removed), who we might not have otherwise trusted (since we don't know who they are, we can't say).

I don't think this is a deliberate scam, but I also think $7 was not realistic, especially for varieties that regularly sell for $50-$200 on ebay.  How can he possibly afford to buy a $50 tree on ebay and sell small trees for $7?  He'd have to get 7 successes out of a first year tree, which for an i-258 could be quite difficult (i-258 trees typically costing much more that $50 from reliable sellers).

I wish him luck--but I'm feeling that some refunds are going to be in order, and I'm not certain any of that seed capital is still available--unless you count money from 2017.


Can you not read?? People are mentioning Ponzi Scheme and telling people to stay away from him!!!Comments are the same as accusations! You must have thought the prices were nice too and now you are condemning them because the price was too cheap! Why don't you ask for a refund and quit acting like immature, by degrading someone, when you don't even know the situation!! He will be on here tonite (according to the message above) then you can really let him have it!

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No proof that he is mailing trees, either. Who are these people who he mailed to? I do hope he comes through, but it is highly suspicious. The fact that he is pre-ordering for 2017 when he hasn't filled 2016 orders is insanity. A fig in the hand is worth more than hypothetical plant not even being grown yet.


Who in the Hell are you? You have posted one comment and then you try to tear down a person's reputation! Did  you order any trees? If  not, you need to  stay out of this you Idiot! You have been a member here 5 hours!

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Who in the Hell are you? You have posted one comment and then you try to tear down a person's reputation! Did  you order any trees? If  not, you need to  stay out of this you Idiot! You have been a member here 5 hours!


Manners, please. I have pointed out facts and drawn a conclusion based on the evidence in front of me. I assumed that $7 for rare trees was a pipe dream. Thus far there is no evidence to the contrary.
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Manners, please. I have pointed out facts and drawn a conclusion based on the evidence in front of me. I assumed that $7 for rare trees was a pipe dream. Thus far there is no evidence to the contrary.


Oh now you have 3 comments! Did you order any trees! 

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Can you not read?? People are mentioning Ponzi Scheme and telling people to stay away from him!!!Comments are the same as accusations! You must have thought the prices were nice too and now you are condemning them because the price was too cheap! Why don't you ask for a refund and quit acting like immature, by degrading someone, when you don't even know the situation!! He will be on here tonite (according to the message above) then you can really let him have it!


I saw the comment about Ponzi schemes.  I did not endorse that comment.  I was just saying, everyone has a right to comment, especially after the delivery date has slipped multiple times.  As far as evidence goes, thus far there is no evidence that a single tree has shipped.  That's not good.

I don't know why you are so angry.  I feel like my comment was fair and politely delivered.  I have mostly kept quiet since I ordered the trees and have been patiently waiting for what I ordered.  I'll survive if I lose all my money--I'm not really stressing.

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I'm not condemning the low price.  Heck, I thought it was too good to be true from the beginning, but I can't pass up a deal (for < $100, I can afford to lose my gamble).  I was just saying, maybe that price really was too good to be true.  And at this point, empirically, what was promised has not been delivered.  That is indisputable.  I only hope for the sake of other buyers (and Greenfin!) that it is only the schedule that has been compromised.

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Why don't you ask for a refund and quit acting like immature, by degrading someone, when you don't even know the situation!!


It's not immature to hold people accountable for what they promise.  I did not degrade anyone (unlike you, just now). Why should people who invested in this deal be silenced if they are unhappy? 


This kind of thread is bound to happen when the date has passed and there's nary a word. It will become an echo chamber.  Let's try to keep it civilized!
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"The goal of this Forum is to provide a fun and friendly arena for the exchange of ideas and plant materials by connecting people to one another."
 
The above statement from the Forum decorum section is why I am a member of this forum.  I want to learn more about figs by sharing with other people who love figs.  Personally, I applaud James for undertaking such a big project.  I wonder how of us on this forum would have the energy, drive and entrepreneurial skills to handle something like this.  It seems we should all be "rooting" for James to be successful not critiquing him.  Also, I have a commercial peach orchard and there are times the commercial nurseries will have to modify or reduce an order due to unforseen circumstances.  I have ordered trees for 16 and 17 so I have skin in the game.  I think the spirit of this forum is to give members the benefit until proven otherwise.  Just my 2 cents

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