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Hi saw a Fig tree today  it was Labeled " Kadota  " but it was the brightest red fig I ever saw. it was Ruby Red with just a hint of black. It was soft and maybe a couple of days before it was fully ripe. another fig was starting to turn red also, so it wasn't just a single freak colored fig.
The rest of the smaller main crop was small and green, 
I have seen a lot of different shades of brown and purple but never a Candy apple colored Fig. Couldn't even find a Bright looking red fig with a Google image Search.
Any thoughts?
If anyone would Know it would be you Guys and Girls.

Thanks Nick.
p.S. I have the option to buy it, it wound not be cheap, but I will if it's as rare as I or this Forum believes it is.

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Welcome to the forum oldghost.

I have no idea what this one might be. Pretty sure it's a safe to say that it's NOT Kadota as labeled. Seems that most nurseries will slap any name on a fig tree just to try to sell it. 

Could be a good find though. If you have the option to purchase it, it might be fun to try it just to see what it actually turns out to be.

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Never seen a red kadota. Welcome to F4F.
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Hello Oldghost,

I don't know if you know about this website or not, but you might be able to match that Kadota_not up there, And welcome


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Oldghost,

Ruby Red colored figs are not very common.

FYI, I obtained a black colored Kadota fig from a very reliable whoesale nursery.....Saxon Becnel and Sons. That was definitely not a mistake on the label of this fig tree as Saxon sold many of these trees in my area.....all with a yellow Kadota label on them and all producing some very nice black figs. I purchased one to give it a trial as the Becnel family have introduced some very good tasting heirloom figs into the retail trade. I certainly do know that it is not a true Kadota; however, it may turn out to be another excellent fig for my area.....because all of the figs that he sells are excellent cultivars. Time will tell.

Personally, I would buy that red Kadota for the fun of raising it. There is a slight chance that it may be a bud sport of yellow Kadota....who knows. Those things do happen. If it is, you've got something very unique.....Ruby Red Kadota!  Mine will be called Black Kadota.
 
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I have seen Brown Turkeys be pretty close to that color on occasion.

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that's a pretty fig..

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I also have seen Brown Turkey and California Brown Turkey being close to the fig above in color.
Nice color anyone will like it but if it has a large cavity and an open eye intrance it is no good in many places in the US.
Check the eye and the interior cavity.

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Wish I could open one and peek inside but I cant unless I buy it first.
Since yesterday a couple more Figs are turning Reddish.
The shape is very " Crabish "  main trunk is very short only a inch and a half high, with
three branches extending 12-15 inches out.
Very low to the container.
I my opinion very ugly, I prefer my Fig trees more single trunk and tree like.
But boy the color really has me hooked.
I am picturing a  cluster of candy apple red colored figs on it soon.   
I don't know if I should take the chance....

Nick.


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Naming rights!!!

How about SLK

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HI old ghost,
You could tell the owner that you are very interested but want to taste test before you buy. That way you get to look inside as well. As you have said it is a bit pricey, so there is no reason for the owner not to let you take it for a test drive.

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That certainly is cool looking fig. I like the idea of a taste test too, only seems fair. You can also check for an open or closed eye.

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If the owner lets you......

Take a knife and try to cut right through the center of the fig's eye. That way you can see if it is open, or closed and whether or not the entrance to the eye tunnels into a possible interior cavity inside of the pulp. If a tunnel exists and is OPEN at the eye.....that is what the bugs will use to get inside of your fig. This will cause it to ferment and/or go sour. Many will live in there too if they can get inside.

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welcome to the forum Nick,

What info can you provide aboutt his nursery?
Do you mind telling us where it is and who it is?

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I agree with Herman and Jon on the BT.My Blackjack from monrovia sometimes ripen like this one Thats labeled as kadota.Goodluck
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I can't taste or test drive nor can I take a knife to it ;(
The owner in giving me the "  Fish Eye " He knows I have other figs that I paid a lot less for and every other word out of his mouth now is " Why do you want this particular fig?  " It must be very special if you keep coming back to look at it "  
The fig eye looks closed from outside and reddish if that helps.
I'm no expert but it doesn't look like a Brown Turkey.
The Shape of the tree and leaves and the color of the unripened figs do not look like any BT I have seen.
I'm afraid if I keep going back to ogle it he's going to change his mind and not sell it.
I should just bite the bullet and give him what he wants....



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It looks like those are in the ever-distinctive Monrovia pots.  If that's the case, I would be interested in contacting Monrovia and asking them what variety it is. 

They only list 6 varieties at their website:  http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/search.php?query=fig

If it were to be any of those I would assume it's Blackjack as well.  Nurseries swap labels and sometimes suppliers get them wrong ... it happens.

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Nah! 

You say your location is Brooklyn- So tell him 'don't BS me- I know what a Kadota is and that ain't no Kadota-The leaves are not right and fruit is red- if you want some one to buy it I'll buy but not for that price- I know you buy whole sale and you mark it up at least 30% for profit- Either your guy on the other end screwed you or you don't have any idea what you have- You need to push product through your door to make money- if this just sits here you make nothing so lets deal!'

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I would go for it if only for the novelty of it, why not. Then you can sell cuttings to all of us fig freaks and recoup your cost.

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Jason's idea sounds just as good if not better! Good Luck!
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If he sells black jack figs as well I would compare the two. My black jack turned all kinds of different colors while ripening. However, The eye is red from early on and I do not see any red color in your picture. Also, the leaves do not look like typical brown turkey figs. The leaves do resemble white Kadota in my opinion. I'd go in on some cuttings if you buy it.

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 I don't mind the higher cost, I have thrown away much more of my money on sillier things.
 I realize it might be a common Fig.
 I am ready for the possibility it it may be mislabeled
.I respect the knowledge and experience of the members here
.I acknowledge this forums experience is much greater than mine.
 And I really appreciate all the help/info I am getting...


I just can't get that darn Candy apple Red color out of my head!

Nick.
  

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Have fun! :-)
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Nick,

Quit talking about it and just do it!
You will feel much better.

I myself and I think many here encourage you to just do it.

Like Barry said, You can easily get your investment back right here by selling some cuttings.


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i saw a picture of candy apple red fig on one of the site sometime ago. the site was not in english. but the picture side "Israel Red Fig". i think the site was from indonesia somewhere. the picture looked very similar to the one on this post. bright candied apply red.

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Hey Nick
Did you ever buy that plant?

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Hey Dan,

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Ruby Red colored figs are not very common.


Olga's 'Blue Giant' looks pretty close to that colour to me. Maybe more common than you thought?



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Nope never brought it.
Went back a couple of days later,guy would not go under $ 175.00 .
The Red fig was gone,
and to top it off, he said with a grin that he ate it. :(
No other figs were riping,yet and he said if I kept coming back and wasting his time, he would raise the price.
Very rude..
I have not been back.
Still think about that red fig....

Nick.

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Hi Nick,
you type this
he said if I kept coming back and wasting his time, he would raise the price.
Very rude..
 
 
In my opinion that was not buisness like and very very rude.
 
But being treated like that i may have come down to his level and showed him a picture of a fig leaves and ask would you like to buy a fig plant with these type of leaves "as sir i think its even less common than yours and may attract more buisness your way if you were not so ignorant."
 

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Nick, I would not have given him my business. He does not sound like a 'plant person'--and was only interested in the almighty dollar! Whatta jerk!

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Who needs a red fig anyway!! LOL  That is a lot of money. I see why you hesitated and obviously I wouldn't want to do business with a guy like that either.

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I would love to be a fly on the wall and see who buys it.

I just can't buy that this guy has a Kadota ( maybe Black like Dan I believe suggested). It's a rare fig and unless your one of the nuts here, you probably would have no clue. So I can't see how this person has any idea of what he has.

But when Nick said it was expensive, I had no idea it was THAT expensive!

Hearing about it is very tempting to take a 4 hour trip.

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Nick,

I really do appreciate your dilemma.........

Dominick,

Yes, indeed I do have a Black Kadota that came from a very reputable local wholesale nursery.......Saxon Becnel. It definitely is not a mislabled tree. I have "one" fig on the tree and hopefully I can get a better ID on it. The Becnel family has introduced some very good local heirloom figs (Smith, Native Black, and Black Italian) into the retail trade.....hopefully, this Black Kadota is another good fig. Time will tell........

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Funny thing is the man placed no extra  value on the Bright red Fig.
he's a small florist that sells a couple of figs, usually Black Mission or Brown turkey.
He places them in front of the store like attention getter's
All the figs he sells he prices at 175.00 - 200.00
He could not care less if the fig color was Red, Black or Pink.
Just the fact it had a ripening fig was enough for him.
 If the man was not so mean and rude, and the tree was not in my opinion so
hideous looking ( it really looked  like a large alien crab : really, really low to the soil and
spider like ) I would have paid the money.
I keep walking by- without stopping- to see if any other figs ripen bright red...

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It sounds like they aren't that large as well.

On top of that he's selling them ALL for that amount- Only in NY. LOL

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WOW $175.00 for a three gal BT or mission I charge  my clients $30.00 for 3 gal. LSU Purple, LSU Gold, Alma, etc. and that is installed with soil amendments and fertilized. I could never bring myself to plant a BT for someone much less charge that kind of money


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probably been looking at ebay and doesn't know what's what.

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A nice flower arrangement would cost about the same, I know someone who grows peonies to sell on the market, he also sells Bull Thistle from his field for $1.50 a stem wholesale, guess where? Only in NYC!

If you really want it then why not try and trade one of your duplicates? The guy is probably not going to go for it but i for one think he deserves to be bothered a little more.


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Take the $175.00 and buy cuttings from members this fall and you'll forget all about the one that was not to be.

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That price is F''n outrageous,
and for $175 he wouldn't let you taste the fig first. ????!!!!


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Go show him your panachee. Tell him you will sell it to him for $250, or consider a trade for the supposed Kadota and a floral arrangement.


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