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Hi all,

I was driving today in an LA suburb and noticed a nice fig tree with dark leaves, it was growing in an apartment building yard, overhanging the fence. 
Could you help me to identify the fig, please?

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-the tree seems to be planted, not a seedling
-small tight eye
-very red flesh, completely filled inside, no void
-the taste is very raspberry, slightly acidic, excellent !!! (that's the main thing !!! :)
-the shape is flattish, about 2" in the widest part
-the fruit color is not super dark, more like brownish at the top and blackish near the eye
-it seems the tree has the breba and the main crop figs
-leaves are 1 to 3 lobes (but mostly 1)
-the tree is not huge, maybe 12 ft high

The tree is covered with figs (main crop) that are not ripe yet, I managed to find 2 brebas that you can see on the photos. 

Any ideas?


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That looks like a very good fig. Nice find!


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I'd say you found yourself a winner !!
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Thanks! The taste is super but would be nice to identify the stranger ...
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Ok, let's do a little detective work.
What kind of neighborhood? Residential area?

It'd be great to be passing by while someone's tending to it.
You could strike up a conversation, explain that you're a collector,
and get some heritage on it. It was a good enough fig that someone planted it.

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As I mentioned, that was an apartment building, 4 to 8 units. I think talking to a manager would be the most beneficial but how to find the manager?... Usually they do not live in the same building here, I can try though. The tree is probably 10-15 years old so talking to the tenants may be a waste of time (except how to find the man.). I can try on my next trip.
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Is it similar to any known variety?

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don't really care if that's similar to other figs.. it just looks so wonderful. i can just taste it looking at the pix. 
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Pete,
A table spoon of raspberry with a drop of sugar + lemon and covered with poppy seeds for a crunch :)
How is that?


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and that's just from breba? can't wait to see what main crop looks like.. i just hope it doesn't need fig wasps.. lol
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Wow I think I am moving to LA. Greenfig you just find your self nice dark fig.
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Mighty fine looking figs you found there. Mouth watering over here. Wish I couls stumble across sombody growing figs around here. As far as I know I'm the only one for about 200 miles. :-(
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you and me both dave. i saw one house with new fig tree. looks to be about 2 yrs old. haven't seen a fig on that thing yet. might have to drop by and tell him to pinch it. 
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"don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
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I thought only San Diego was a fig mecca where you find Black Madeira and Chico Strawberry in the people's backyards ...
Now I see that Los Angeles has hidden jewels too!
If you think the life is easy here, consider we also have earthquakes, fires, floods, and landslides :(
That is why the figs grow everywhere so we could survive the disasters :)

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when you have such figs growing on the street.. makes you want to make sure you survive all those natural disaster to enjoy them. :)
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"don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
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Yeah, the whole breba and main crop thing threw me for a loop.  If not for that, I might have gone for Zidi or Ischia Black.  I would guess that this is an Italian fig similar to Ischia Black.  The leaves are rugose in the way Ischia Black leaves are, and the fruits are shaped mostly like many of the large pollinated figs are, like Zidi.


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Probable desired fig: Smith, St Jean, JH Adriatic, CddB, Gulbun, Pastilliere, Sucrette

Rooting:  Smith, CDDB--this pretty much means I have my fun tries (tho' important since they are truly desirable), and only interested for this year: Gulbun, BM, 187-25, or something wildly exotic or precious that nobody has any good reason to send me.

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not Ischia Black. fig shape is wrong. more like Black Madeira, Figo Preto, I-258 and Socorro Black. i'm hoping it's a common fig. worth trying in east coast. if it's smyrna or san pedro it's going to break my heart.
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"don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
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Would it help if I cut open a small undeveloped figlet? Is it possible to tell if it is a common or not fig? 
I still have those tiny ones you see on the photo.

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don't think it's going to make much difference. just have to try it here :) at least it's not caprifig.
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"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher

***** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. *****
***** and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...*****
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Wow that's a nice looking fig...

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don't think it's going to make much difference. just have to try it here :) at least it's not caprifig.


I will try to talk to people there, I will let you know of anything I learn.
It may take some days or weeks though since I don't live right next to it.

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I woudn't compare it to Black Madeira or Figo Preto.  The neck is wrong, in my eyes.  I-258 or Bourjasotte Gris?  More likely.

Still, all those brebas...


Also, there definitely are some I.Blacks that are that turbinate.



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Probable desired fig: Smith, St Jean, JH Adriatic, CddB, Gulbun, Pastilliere, Sucrette

Rooting:  Smith, CDDB--this pretty much means I have my fun tries (tho' important since they are truly desirable), and only interested for this year: Gulbun, BM, 187-25, or something wildly exotic or precious that nobody has any good reason to send me.

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Looks like Italian Everbearing

Either way great find

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I checked the pictures for the Italian Everbearing, the fruit shape is very different, I do not believe that is it. I.Black looks more similar but the fruit is not that black for my eye.
I-258 is the closest so far but the lack of photos makes it hard to compare.

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If you want to pursue and ask manager about the plant ask a renter for his contact information.
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Or put on your Ninja suit and get us all cuttings  :)
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Bob, I like the way you think.
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I second Bob's suggestion. I might even throw in the ninja suit and a set of nunchuks. Son said no to the throwing stars.
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Sounds and looks like a good fig. Nice find and thanks for sharing. I hope it is a common fig, tastes great everywhere, and gets distributed widely.
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Or put on your Ninja suit and get us all cuttings  :)


:-)!

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I went to that house today to check on the tenants, well... nada. Nobody was inside. I also found a large Brown Turkey tree on the other side. Not that it is super exciting but it means that somebody at some point in the past cared about the figs.
Will try again in a few days.
I would feel bad to collect the cuttings now. First, I need to talk to the owner and second, every brunch is loaded with figs, there are no 'blanks' where I can reach.

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Hope you have better luck next try- it sounds like a fantastic fig ! Hopefully they will allow you to take cuttings .
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Maybe Barnisotte Gris?  One of the pictures in the data base has that flattened shape like LSU Gold has.
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Maybe Barnisotte Gris?  One of the pictures in the data base has that flattened shape like LSU Gold has.


Maybe, but I have never tried a BG so I cannot confirm or deny it.
Anybody can post a photo of the leaves?

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Greenfig,

From my list of BLACKS took these two pictures which may be from a cousin of your 'newfoundFig'
Have a look...

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I think this figs is ADAM. I planted it over ten years


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Lampo,
What is the name of the fig in your photo?
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Leon,

my pictures are from a ripening 'sofêno preto'

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Quote:
Originally Posted by greenfig
Hi all,

I was driving today in an LA suburb and noticed a nice fig tree with dark leaves, it was growing in an apartment building yard, overhanging the fence. 
Could you help me to identify the fig, please?

Relevant info:

-the tree seems to be planted, not a seedling
-small tight eye
-very red flesh, completely filled inside, no void
-the taste is very raspberry, slightly acidic, excellent !!! (that's the main thing !!! :)
-the shape is flattish, about 2" in the widest part
-the fruit color is not super dark, more like brownish at the top and blackish near the eye
-it seems the tree has the breba and the main crop figs
-leaves are 1 to 3 lobes (but mostly 1)
-the tree is not huge, maybe 12 ft high

The tree is covered with figs (main crop) that are not ripe yet, I managed to find 2 brebas that you can see on the photos. 

Any ideas?


Hi all. this fig is native in Sicily, are named " Furdicchiara " ! the description of taste e pics are perfect , same some fig tree i have discovered in my zone in Sicily.
Next year I send some photos.
greetings to all :-)
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Wow, what city is that in Igor??? Address? Haha...
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LA suburb :)
It’s a big city! 

Thank you, totillos !


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Hey Igor, did you ever grow this fig? Any answers to its identity?
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I wish I had any leads. It seems to be a Smyrna fig and very vigorous and healthy tree. Grows well in the ground and pots.
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I used to keep a fishing pole in the car, now I carry clippers! Lol
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I wish I had any leads. It seems to be a Smyrna fig and very vigorous and healthy tree. Grows well in the ground and pots.

Is this the tree you named El Molino or is it different? 

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Mara,
This is a different tree.

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