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Hi,
a while back while curious about fmv i saw some pictures of fmv on the fruit itself.
Now i cannot find that doing a search anymore and cant recall where i saw this.
Anyone can help with this .

I will post pictures of several of my plants that "seem" to display not only on leaves but the figs themselves this when i have more time.

This is why i wish to see those web pictures i once saw. Im curioous.
Here below is brief sum of what UcDavis mentions about it being on fruit.

SYMPTOMS

Fig mosaic can cause symptoms on both leaves and fruits. On leaves, mosaic spots are distinctly yellow, contrasting with normal green color of the foliage. The margins of the yellow spots blend gradually from a light yellow color into the dark green of healthy tissue. Mosaic spots or lesions may be uniformly scattered over the surface of the leaves or may appear as irregular patches of light green diffused widely throughout the leaf blade. Later in the season, a rust-colored band develops along the border of the mosaic spots, apparently caused by the death of epidermal or subepidermal cells.

Deformed leaves may occur on the same twig as normal leaves. Mosaic spots on fruits are very similar to those on leaves, but less conspicuous.

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I took many pictures to get these few shots this eve.
One picture the very dark one with black backround was photoshop to get rid of most glare.
These are 2 different plants. third plant i could not get picture good.

This is not from sun and evidence of fig mosaic virus in the fruit as UcDavis mentions in article i posted above. This fruit looks like pictures i saw while back on the net showing similar and mentioned this is FmV in fruit.

The sun is same on several plants right next to these and even on same plant and does not display as i tried to capture in these pictures for member to see.
I have not tasted any ripe figs ever from these trees but maybe this season.





this picture phtoshoped (darkened to reduce glare)




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I would go in the direction of looking for some other disease of bug issue. Really can't say that I have ever seen fruit affected by FMV. Not saying it isn't possible - just haven't seen any evidence.

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Martin,

I posted pics of a tree I have which has many limbs that are heavily affected by FMV and a limb which is not (I have two different trees exhibiting this behavior).  I haven't noticed any discoloration on the fruits of these trees.  What I have noticed is the fruit on the affected limbs growing at a significantly slower pace than the fruit on the unaffected limb.  I've been curious if there will be much difference in the fruit once ripe.  I'll check for any signs of discoloration on the young fruit tomorrow.

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Interesting Martin, I haven't witnessed this FMV on fruit with any I have. Only tree I have effected by FMV  this is VdB but has grown out of it. This variety VdB is notorious for these problems, but doesn't effect the fruit or the growth.


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I had the same symptoms on a few figs. Yes it's part of the FMV. here's a study on FMV in turkey that shows the two types of fmv showing on fruit.
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Some more information i have found.
UcDavis mentions it on the fruit as i posted in post#1

Deformed leaves may occur on the same twig as normal leaves. Mosaic spots on fruits are very similar to those on leaves, but less conspicuous.

and this

Florida State Horticultural Society - 1960

The appearance of mosaic  spots on the leaves

 fruit is very similar to that on the leaves. Thepremature dropping  of figs appears at times

to be due to the presence of these mosaic spots on the surface of the fruit and on adjacent leaves.

Hi James, here is what is mentioned maybe similar what you mentioned about your plant.

Occasionally, all or almost all the leaves show at least some of the mosaic pattern, but usually it is limited to leaves on one or several

limbs. Often, small twigs occurring on the main trunk and near the ground will show symptoms 

while the balance of the tree will be symptomless.

So according to UcDavis and Florida Horticultural Society

the appearance of mosaic spots on the fruit is very similar to that on the leaves.

Maggie ,

yes my VdB is also hiding the virus except a few mishapen leaves it now looks very good.

I have notice this happens during course of season that its shows early season then wanes as season marches on last several seasons with my VdB. Some of my plants still show it well such as my Kalamata Black on almost All the leaves to date which also is one of the plants that show the spotting on some of its figs.

 

To Note please

Not much is mentioned on this topic about fmv being on the fig fruit itself but what is mentioned say it appears similar to that on the leaves from 2 respectible sources. This is what i have noticed and it does not appear to be caused by a bug its actual spotting of the color of the fruit skin, just as in the leaves .

In my search of those pictures i once saw i have ran across what is simply mentioned as Mosaic spotting in other fruit and vegtables also such as Squash, cucumbers, pumpkins and others. Here it shows on a squash.

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Mosaic on Squash and cucumber.
when it stops raining i take better pictures of the figs i have that display what i believe is on a few of my figs.
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Took a few more pictures not the best as rechareable batteries are no good anymore. I would edit them to other post but afraid they dont show or mess up.

In one of the pictures you can see several figs .
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Hi Martin,

It is an interesting phenomenon to witness.  I have several trees going through this.   On the tree I mentioned before, the unaffected limb has put on more growth and has more figs than the other five limbs combined.  The affected figs are smaller but the coloring is about the same as comparably sized fruit on the unaffected limb.   Also there is a higher percentage of deformed figs on the limbs exhibiting FMV.

If that squash in the picture is supposed to be a yellow crookneck, that's an amazing deformity/discoloration.

~james


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James if not mistaken that was from Ohio State University site but i get confused as i was trying to find those fig pictures  i saw in past and visited so many sites i lost tract of what was what.

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if the fruit is showing signs like in the article Bass linked for us are they safe to eat?


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Thanks Bass for posting that link , picture "B" confirms what im seeing i posted.

Petea,
i dont know the answer first time i see this on these trees i never had ripe fig yet from those plants. I might this season though .
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Martin not sure if this is weather related but I too only noticed this this year on about 4 plants that I have. I too was wondering if it was possible for fmv to show on figs and I guess it is.


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That link that Bass post further caught my eye and thoughts.

This link http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4785815
"Post 10"
Sal asked me about the dark spots on that fig and i replied it might be a bug stinging it.
The Last  picture in  "Post 13"   i went back to observe along with the others pictures in the thread.

Sal
 if you read this and have time go to link Bass posted

http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/agriculture/issues/tar-09-33-5/tar-33-5-6-0807-20.pdf

and look at picture C showing leaf and D showing fruit .
Would like to hear your thoughts.

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Martin nice find, I started to look at UF articles listing different types of virus on vegetables and figs The most common one I can associate with is white fly which affect tomatoes and some other veggies
As far as those picture you pointed out C&D I again went out to check and it seems that those spots don't appear on mine till fig starts to show change in color.  have a few changing color now but no spots yet I will try to take a pic and then again in a few days to keep track I will post on this thread. 
Here is a UF article not much info but it also lists other virus and disease that can affect figs leaves and fruit!!!

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Here it is on my Dark Portuguese.


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I show in pictures Black Bethlehem displaying FMV on the early fruit this season .
Again i bring this subject up on forum for those curious as i pay more attention to it out of curiousity to see the effect it has on several of my plants .

My plants to date that display this 
Kalamata and Pastilliere did same last season.
Black Bethlehem first crop ever ( 2nd season old ) shown on plant now displaying . 
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