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WakesInc

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New member here.  Experienced gardener but fairly new to figs.  I wanted to do some research before I asked for advice so I came up with a wish list.  Now I just want to see if everyone thinks my list is reasonable - both in terms of what grows well in my area and will be decently easy to obtain.  I'm not really interested in chasing the new "hot" figs.

I live in the Atlanta metro area of Georgia.  I'm almost right on the line separating 7b and 8a according to the USDA website.  I have an area to bring pots indoors for winter but I do prefer varieties which can go in-ground.

The figs I currently have are Brown Turkey, Celeste and LSU Black.  I want to end up with around 15 total varieties, so my list is around 20 total figuring I won't get them all.  I've broken my wish list down into categories.

LSU Figs
LSU Red
LSU O' Rourke
LSU Gold
LSU Purple

Mt Etna Figs
Sal's
Hardy Chicago
Marseilles VS

Uncommons
Violette de Bordeaux
Ronde de Bordeaux
Malta Black

Rares
Col De Dame Blanc
Col De Dame Noir
I-258
Nero 600m

Have I done my research correct?  I know obtaining all the rares will be difficult even over a few years time, but I wanted some to set my aim high on on at least a few.

Don't hold back, I can take.

PS.  To be clear, I am not asking for cuttings, I'm only asking for advice on if my wish list is a good one.
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Nero 600m and Violette de Bordeaux are kind of the same thing. Also, Ronde and Violette are pretty easy to find during cutting season, which you may already know starts this month or next month. 

It's my understanding that some people think there's a ton of similarity among Mt. Etnas so I kind of relegated them to add-ons in my search. Still, I have St. Rita and Unknown Owensboro although I know MBVS is held in very high regard. 

You can really get by with just one Col de Dame. You can collect as many of the colors as you want, and many collectors like to do this, but the flavors are more or less the same. Be careful, though, as there are some misnamed CdDs floating around, particularly Col de Dame Gris. A healthy FMV-free Col de Dame Blanc seems to be a really popular choice.

I don't know much about the LSU figs. 

Your list is missing JH Adriatic. I know a lot of folks up north say JH Adriatic is cold hardy so it'd be perfect for you. Also, it's a killer fig. I know I258 is a great choice and you may want to research Galicia Negra and Smith a bit, too. These "rare" figs are getting easier to come by every year. ;)

Well done on the research, though! There's a ton of info to go through. 


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Nero 600m and Violette de Bordeaux are kind of the same thing. Also, Ronde and Violette are pretty easy to find during cutting season, which you may already know starts this month or next month. 

It's my understanding that some people think there's a ton of similarity among Mt. Etnas so I kind of relegated them to add-ons in my search. Still, I have St. Rita and Unknown Owensboro although I know MBVS is held in very high regard. 

You can really get by with just one Col de Dame. You can collect as many of the colors as you want, and many collectors like to do this, but the flavors are more or less the same. Be careful, though, as there are some misnamed CdDs floating around, particularly Col de Dame Gris. A healthy FMV-free Col de Dame Blanc seems to be a really popular choice.

I don't know much about the LSU figs. 

Your list is missing JH Adriatic. I know a lot of folks up north say JH Adriatic is cold hardy so it'd be perfect for you. Also, it's a killer fig. I know I258 is a great choice and you may want to research Galicia Negra and Smith a bit, too. These "rare" figs are getting easier to come by every year. ;)

Well done on the research, though! There's a ton of info to go through. 



With our recent weather in GA, it feels like we may never get to cutting season.  

I only include a few Mt Etnas because they seem to be held in high regard for being cold hardy.  I knew they were related but I didn't know they were quite that similar.  I guess I should limit the number of those to save space.

I really appreciate your advice.  I'll have to look into the varieties you recommend - I've heard them by name but don't know anything about them.  The number of different figs seems to be both a blessing and a curse.

Thanks again for the help.
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I sampled I258 today and it is a great fig!
I was even more impressed by VDB and especially by Bourjasotte Grise: an exceptional fig. Not sure how well they will grow in your area. I am visiting in CA.

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Np. Yeah the number of different fig varieties I think made me feel like I had to collect as many as possible at first, just to try them out for myself. After tasting a lot of duds, however, I'm scaling way back from 60+ varieties to only about 10 - 15, which still gives me a reasonable amount of space to try a few new varieties at a time as they become available. I'm happy with just a good curated selection of high quality fruit. Orchardists, conservationists, scientists, and collectors have very different goals than I do. I just wanna eeeaaaat... lol

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I sampled I258 today and it is a great fig! I was even more impressed by VDB and especially by Bourjasotte Grise: an exceptional fig. Not sure how well they will grow in your area. I am visiting in CA.


That's great! Do you know approximately how old each of the trees were? Also out of curiosity, in which part of CA did you try the figs?


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LSU Purple and Chicago Hardy do very well in Southern NJ, 7B and aren't hard to find inexpensively.
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Your list looks fine to me, and fairly conservative. Better start this way, and learn the best way to take care of figs in you area (and for you), than to go gung-ho into the really expensive varieties. 

Your "Uncommons" are not really that uncommon. To be honest, the LSU Red will probably be harder to come by than any of you listed Uncommons.

I'm sure that you can probably fill almost all of these in this coming cutting season.

CliffH 


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I agree with Levar's comment about Adriatic (JH) - you are missing any of the Adriatic - type figs, and others that are fairly similar include Green ischia, Strawberry Verte, Paradiso or Paradiso Bronze.  All are top quality.  All ripen before the CdD family.  I would include one of them in your list.

Malta Black is similar enough to the Mt Etna's that some consider it in the same family.  If you are short on space maybe do one of that group (Mt Etnas plus Malta Black) or Malta Black plus one of the others.

I would also vote for adding Smith as noted previously, and I like Hollier more than LSU Gold as a honey type - Gold did not do well for me but I am significantly farther north than you.

But all of your choices are good ones, and may do quite well for you in GA.

Good luck!

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