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Bought this as an unknown, about 10" tall with one small purple on it. Thought it might be a Pastiliere. In it's third year, it dropped much of it's fruit, but the ones that remained were the size of a half dollar, or larger, and were fabulous in flavor. It isn't what I thought it was, but it will be a keeper,





















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Wow, it has an incredibly thin skin.

edit: True, obvious statements like ^ don't really add much. I just felt a little bad about always looking and not replying to all these picture threads.

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That is one amazing looking fig.  I couldn't even guess how many "unknowns" you have collected over the years.  (especially after reading that you have 20 Celeste's alone...or more likely 1 Celeste, you hope, and 19 unknowns)

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I do have a young (stardard) UCD  Pastilliere fig. Harvested my first couple a little
while ago, but it took me 1-2 days after that before I actually took the picture.
Sooo, apart from  me being a bad photographer;  see:
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/view/mb/file?username=figs4funforum&id=433822
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I had one or two fruit off of my little Pastiliere, but they did not compare with this big boy. I could have probably let this ripen one or two more days, at which time it would have been lethal, I think. Hope this one keeps more fruit next season.


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What 'big boy' ?

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The fig, gorgi, the fig.


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hi jon,

'big boy' for sure.  the color showing on my computer is intense, i haven't seen a ruby that would compare with that beauty.  and 'incredibly thin skin' is a good description, forrest, i hadn't noticed that until you said it, i was so lost in the color.  also, no cracks or blemishes.  wow!

if you have any plants from this lunker and think it needs trialed in missouri, you may send one along with my others this fall!!!

my mouth is watering.

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Jon,  That's one good looking fig.  But if it's just ripening for you now in San Diego, do you think it's probably too late for us folk in the North East?

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That is part of the rub. There were plenty of earlier figs on the tree that did not persist. The ones ripening are the last ones on the tree, not the first. If the persistence issue fades with maturity, as I think it might, then it would probably be early enough. Time will tell.


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Hello,

this is Pastiliere for sure.
I have the same cultivar labelled as Pastiliere in pot bought from the famous French nursery Baud. It is 3 years old and although it lost about 50% oft its figs in late August, the other (especially the later) fruits were of outstanding quality (thin skin, a fruity dominance with less sugar than some other varieties, but still nicely balanced to me).

It´s a very beautiful fig, especially the one on the picture.



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Jon, any up date on this Unknown Pastiliere for 2010 ? thanks.
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Negatory, good buddy.

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Bump, three years later. Any update?
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wow....beautiful color
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Jon now its a little over 5 years since that October 2007  post .
Is that tree dropping figs still or  ?
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It is currently setting a breba crop. Still drops a lot f the main crop.
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want SO BAD!!
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Thanks Jon.
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After I started acquiring figs and learned a bit more, there were 3 varieties I really, really, really wanted. Based on photos alone, this was one of them. Glad to say I got it (thank you!) and it was easy to root. It's also a good grower and I've already moved up a couple into 5 gallon containers. I hope I get a fruit or two later this year. :)
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Boy, I'll bet this one just went to the top of everyone's list!
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growing fig for me is more fun than anything else. hard to root, hard to grow, hard to produce figs. all frustrating, but all fun. Pastiliere is on top of my list along with UCD Black Ischia. anything that anyone says "hard" i want them. i guess that's why i always wanted Black Madeira. i heard so many horror stories about it.

i'm only missing UDC Black Ischia. and i'll get that darn cutting and see what i can do with it.


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I had one for a few years and dropped the main crop. most likely it's either a san pedro or a smyrna type. Keep us updated on the progress of your breba crop.
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I have one from Baud , but I am not so lucky  since the main crop is always drop in my climate.

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that's an awsome looking fig jon.

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I've been growing this one for a couple of years now. I think I started mine in winter 2010/11.

It likes to root. It likes to grow. It even likes to make little figlets. It just doesn't seem to be too crazy about making ripe figs.


I found a couple pics to add:

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jpeg J._U._P..jpg (373.56 KB, 56 views)
jpeg Unk_Pastillere_Fruit.jpg (358.52 KB, 76 views)


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What a beautiful fig. Gorgeous colors, inside and out. Even the eye is beautiful.
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I have been wondering whether if it's the case that Pastillier mostly just needs to be in ground, and fully adult 10 years + before you have regular crops.
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The fig initially mentioned in this thread, and the photos, is 'unknown Pastiliere', not 'Pastiliere'. Apparently there is a difference.
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probably a sport.
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The fig initially mentioned in this thread, and the photos, is 'unknown Pastiliere', not 'Pastiliere'. Apparently there is a difference.


Yes its unknown according to Jon and yet it still drops the figs thats too bad  , kinda reminds me of the UcDavis that was growing in our yard .

Beautiful fig when a fully ripe one could be picked (sigh) and the taste was excellent one of best in yard
but
most of crop always dropped off and very very few ripened properly.
Very frustrating the plants that drop figs for most growers.

Kinda sounds like Jon's unknown pastiliere and most likely needs the wasp's help.


To date i know by growing Ucdavis Pastilere Drops bad.
Reading Bauds Pastiliere drops
Jons Unknown Pastiliere drops.
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i live not too far from nuclear power plant. maybe mine will mutate and hold on to the figs :) it would be a plus if it glows in the dark! x)
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Bullet go to the that plants water cooling discharge and get water for your plants mutation experiment. lol
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LOL, I'd rather have the wasp.
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Im thankful for all the info. I don't have space to play around with it if its going to drop fruit. Man, those photos sure do make you want it though.
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From my small unknown Past. plants started this past less than a year ago, I've had one already ripen. I picked it too soon however. Ack! And one just about ripe now. There are more on the other small U.P. plants too. I haven't noticed any dropping of fruits, but then I've got so many 'small trees' to keep track of I might not have noticed.

Hopefully the one that is almost ripe won't get picked by some critter. If it's still there tomorrow, think I'll bring it in at night till it properly ripens and I can really taste it. Might go out with a flashlight now and bring it in. Now that's dedication, lol. (edit:  it's now safe from harm and sitting in its 5 gallon pot in the foyer. My that fruit looks pretty - just like in the photos. Larger than I thought it would be however.)

There is the possibility the wasp is local. I've seen it in some caprifigs about 20 miles away, but in my area there's mainly lemon and avocado orchards. I also have a zidi with fruit. But the figs are still small and green.

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My 2 trees did the exact same thing as Jon's. Today, the figs are the star from the dark side!
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Here's a photo of one of the very young fruits on my year old Unk Pastiliere. The photo was taken about 3-4 weeks ago. Hopefully it will ripen. 

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Looking forward to ripe fruit pictures.
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look at my avatar Martin
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It is currently setting a breba crop. Still drops a lot f the main crop.
How does this variety compair  with Ronde de Bordeaux ? it awfully looks like one.
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A real Pastilière is a onecrop variety. This is what all available French sources say. Some Breba figs occur in spring, but usually fall off.
Pastilière is known to give a very early autumn crop - in France from August on, same as Ronde de Bordeaux.
Ronde de Bordeaux is also said to be a onecrop variety, but sometimes can produce a small amount of breba figs. It has a much more vigourous
growth than Pastilière, the fruit are sweeter than Pastilière figs.
RdB branches and produces suckers easily, Pastilière doesn't. Both varieties don't need the fig wasp.
Maybe the varieties you're talking about are only similar but not exactly the same as the ones they have in France.
Nevertheless, your pictures look great!
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very useful information Optimist, thank you.
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I've just found found the following site - thought you might like it
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what?!!
it says Rouge de Bordeaux and Pasteliere are same .   no, no, no....I'm so confused now. I mean if it is, that means all this time that I wanted RdB...I had it all along because I have several sours Pastelieres? hm... 
This can't be right.

Edit: ...or, am I confusing Rouge De Bordeaux with Ronde De Bordeaux?  (ugh, scratching my head)
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You're right, it is confusing, but ROUGE DE BORDEAUX is synonym to PASTILIÈRE.

You probably wanted RONDE DE BORDEAUX.
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I want them ALL!  LOL
I don't know how to find Ronde De Bordeaux ;/
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I want them ALL!  LOL
I don't know how to find Ronde De Bordeaux ;/


When are you going to start growing all of these cutting you get from people Aaron?
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How does this variety compair  with Ronde de Bordeaux ? it awfully looks like one.   
              

The leaves of Unknown Pastiliere and RdB are completely different.


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Looking forward to ripe fruit pictures.


Me too - and this year I have a functioning camera! Last year I got a few ripe ones on the plants in their first year. They were exactly like Jon's pictures of ripe fruits at the beginning of this thread.

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