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Subject: New Bird Net Replies: 4
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Nice looking fig plant Tim. Tim, that green net looks better then the black netting they sell. Do you remember the name of the company that made the green net?


Subject: Danny Delite and Black Madeira! Replies: 3
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Herman, you identified my Danny's Delight from the pictures I sent to you, two weeks ago.
Were you comparing the leaves on my Danny's Delight with  the plant you got from George, or the plant you got from Hartmann's plant company.


Subject: Fig "milk" affecting skin/mouth Replies: 14
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Herman, which cultivars do you have that dry on the bush?>


Subject: Improved Celeste (non O"rourke Replies: 15
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For those of you who have Improved Celeste in ground, can you post pictures of Improved Celeste's leaves?



Subject: Is this English Brown Turkey??? Replies: 14
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Nelson20, Really nice pictures. That is a extremely heavy bearing young fig. If you can track down it's name please post it, on the forum. Also, as to how cold hardy it is and where it originated.


Subject: Hardy Chicago n Dark Portuguese Replies: 10
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Martin, we have had what is suppose to be Hardy Chicago for about 5-6 years now. It has never really produced much fruit.

I received cuttings of Sal's (EL) this last spring. Rooted them and then place them in a 5 gallon pot. The Sal's (EL) is now about two to two and a half feet tall.

I have been trying to compare the leaves against of our Hardy Chicago all summer. My Sal's (EL) that I got from Gene, does not look like our Hardy Chicago. Plus, the Sal's from Gene is a heavy producer right in the pot and being less then 4-5 months old. 

Also, our Hardy Chicago has no absolutely no mosaic virus what so ever. The Sal's that we got from Gene seems to be infected with the mosaic virus. But, it does not appear to effect the plants ability to grow very fast and to produce a lot of figs, for such a young fig.

I, for one think that Sal's (EL) is a better plant then Hardy Chicago.

In speaking to Paul Traceski about 10 to 12 years ago, when he was testing fig plants for cold hardiness, he told me that he thought that Sal's was much more cold hardy then Hardy Chicago. From what I understand he ended up keeping out of his test batch, only one fig. It was Sal's (EL).  

Our Hardy Chicago seems to be reasonably cold hardy. But it has always gotten killed back to the ground by late spring frost, after surviving our winters. 
I have always felt that there are many different strains of Hardy Chicago. 

But, I agree with those who say the name is not important. As long as you can grow it in your location and it taste good.  


Subject: DFIC 17 Brown Turkey Replies: 24
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Gorgi, No pardoning needed. I completely understand.


Subject: DFIC 17 Brown Turkey Replies: 24
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Gorgi, that's very interesting. How do you rate it on a scale of 1 to 10  for taste?

Jstall, thanks for the offer. but, let me think about it and get back to you.


Subject: For Robert Replies: 3
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Yes Martin, I have read your posting and others about burying fig trees in cold zones. 

But, what I meant was a tree that would not take a lot of people or a lot of time to do.

If one has the dirt set aside already close by the tree it has only been taking us around five minutes to do. That's why I like Herman's new find. A Brown Turkey that rates a 8 in taste is a great find. Then when it's a Brown Turkey that is of good size and can be grown like they do in Japan, Might even make it possible for small farms to grown a few acres for local markets.

With the tree gowning horizontally one might be able to cover several hundred trees in a couple of hours with tractor and plow.


Subject: DFIC 17 Brown Turkey Replies: 24
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Herman, that's a good size. I would think that with it being ranked as a # 8 on the taste scale, with just the first two figs of the season. That makes it in my mind a outstanding find for a Brown Turkey.

Just three years ago we were having a problems locating figs that might be cold hardy enough to be grown in a zone 6 and lower. Now with your finds the finds of other testers it seems like it's going to be possible for any one to grow figs now, outside in zone 6 and zone 5, with just a little protection.

When do you think your DFIC-17 Brown Turkey will be big enough to start sending out cuttings? Or do you already have extra plants?

Martin, I was thinking more alone the lines of it being grown at your place horizontally, with a little dirt thrown over it for winter. Just as a test. I agree with you that there would be a good chance that a fig might be killed sooner or later in your very cold zone. But the very fact that your figs are making it through your winters in your garage. That in my mind seems to get as cold as a zone 6/5. Herman's' DFIC-17 Brown Turkey, Just might be the fig for people in zones like yous who want a good tasting fig. But not have to spend more then a few minutes getting it ready for winter.


Subject: DFIC 17 Brown Turkey Replies: 24
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Last fall we planted all of our figs at a 45 degree angle. So that they could be bent easily to the grown. Then covered them with about 3 to 6 inches of soil.

 But already some of them are sending up shoots that are a straight 180 degrees. So a good tasting Brown Turkey that sends out most of it's shoots horizontal to the ground would help those who want figs in zones lower then zone 7.

 Martin, now that Herman has identified a fig that can be grown in his northern location, which is a very warn zone 6. Can we get you to test it out side at your cold zone 5 location?


Subject: DFIC 17 Brown Turkey Replies: 24
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Good find Herman.

I have always felt that there were thousands of different Brown Turkeys. It has had hundreds of years to be taken to just about every corner of the earth. Then after being grown in certain  locations for hundreds of years they mutate in order to grow and thrive in there new homes.

Do you think that is possible with the English Brown Turkey also?

Do you think your DFIC 17 Brown Turkey it is as cold hardy as your English Brown Turkey?

Subject: My front porch Third year Gino fig Replies: 8
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Herman, thanks for the information. I checked the historical weather data for Egg Harbor, NJ. The weather bureau is using the Atlantic City bureau for Egg Harbor.

I figure this was going to be another dead end lead. That's because I figured Atlantic City had to be at least a zone 7 and that Egg harbor sounded like one of those micro climates next to the sea shore that would be a zone 8.

But, I checked the data anyways. To my surprise Atlantic City actually appears to be even more colder then your location. The three coldest winters in Atlantic City was minus 8 degrees Fahrenheit in 1996, minus 8 degrees in 1987 and minus 9 degrees Fahrenheit in 1985. These are the low winter records for the last 25 years, for Atlantic City, NJ.

You indicated your Gino's fig had no winter protection in its third year, at your place. What type of protection did you give it during it's first and second winters? 

Did it die back at all in it's first and second winter at your place?

Herman, this appears to be possibly another good find from you, for being both winter hardy and good tasting??

Thanks for any additional information on Gino's fig


Do you know were the tree originated at, in the United States? 

Subject: My front porch Third year Gino fig Replies: 8
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Herman, were did you get your Gino's fig from?

How does it compare to Marseilles Black VS in taste, size and when it ripens.

Thanks. Bob

Subject: Lindhurst White Replies: 20
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Bass, which do you like the most, Lindhurst White or Brooklyn White, and why?


Subject: Improved Celeste and Cat birds damage! Replies: 2
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Herman, why is it called, "Improved Celeste"? Is it because it is a earlier ripening Celeste? Or because it taste better then the old Celeste?


Subject: Salem Dark Replies: 13
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Bass, I have not been growing figs long enough to be any type of expert on identifcation. But, doesn't this leaf picture of Salem Dark remind you of either Hardy Chicago or Sal's (Gene strain)?

Is there any more info on it.

Subject: Kathleen Black Breba Pixes Replies: 7
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My rooted Kathleen's black was received this spring, and is in a pot right now. It has not fruited yet. So I can't comment on the fruit. But it appears to be a very strong grower.

Herman It does indeed look like a very promising cultivar. Especially the fact that you have yours planted in ground and your brebas survived the winter. 

Herman your Pictures did not up load, Can you repost showing also the size of your in ground plant?

thanks. Bob

Subject: Brooklyn White breba Replies: 11
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Bass, I have your Brooklyn White also. It was planted outside in Connecticut, zone 6 last fall. Came through without any winter damage. Of the five different varieties we planted last fall, it is one of the most productive, this year.

Can you give us more detail about where it's being grown and how it's being grown. In a pot, or out side? What zone is it being grown in. Etc.

Thanks. Bob 

Subject: Atreano picked this morning Replies: 9
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Nice looking Atreano Paul.

Paul what type of bird netting is that your using? It looks to be a better quality then the regular black netting?


Subject: anyone know what type fig this is? Replies: 2
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Nice looking fig PM920. I'm guessing here. Other more expierenced collectors will more then likely jump in.

But, it reminds me of Dalmatie. Have you gone to the fig varieties at Figs 4 Fun to compare it?

It looks like it has been planted in the open. What USDA zone are you growing it in?

Would you like to trade some cuttings of it with  a cutting or a plant of our Hardy Hartford? Or can offer other plants of other varieties.


Subject: Chicago Hardy Producing after Freeze-Back Replies: 6
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Ox, I was wondering why your fig fruits were so large this time of year.  After being winter killed down to the ground. Our Chicago Hardy (Hardy Chicago for Ottawan - Chuckle) that was winter killed to the ground, didn't even have fruit on it. Let alone marble size fruit.

Ox, I have never heard of a muncibeddu. I have been researching Chicago Hardy now for about five years. Or at least what info I can find on the internet. I suspect there may be more then one strain of Chicago Hardy.

I'm starting to think there may be hundreds of Figs from the area that Hardy Chicago came from. Maybe not all the same. But simply closely related, some more cold hardy then others.  

Even UC Davis has it listed as Hearty Chicago. 

At any rate, I don't care what a fig is called. All I'm looking for is the most cold/frost hardy fig tht I can grow here in Connecticut, without winter protection. 


Ox, can you post pictures of the leafe of your Muncibidd?? 

Subject: Chicago Hardy Producing after Freeze-Back Replies: 6
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Ox, the winter of 98/99 our Chicago Hardy was killed to the ground by a late spring frost. Then came back with sprouts from the root system. Around the end of July of last year I read about pinching on the forum. Stating that one should start pinching at the 6th leaf. For us here in this part of Connecticut, that is some time around the first of June. It was around the end of July. But, I figured I had nothing to lose. So, I pinched. In about three weeks three figs appeared. Around the first of November one of the figs ripened, and had a average taste. Considered that it was pinched so late and that we had a very cold summer, it was better tasting then the fresh  Mission figs I had been buying, The other two figs never ripened.

We seem to have a lot of problems with our Chicago Hardy. Last year I ran out of rat poison so did not bury the Chicago Hardy with poison. Of course it was the only fig plant out of the nine we buried that was eaten up by the mice. The mice not only ate all the bark above ground, but also the root system down to about two feet into the ground.

So, it was not until the first of June that new Chicago Hardy shoots came up. Around  July 1st it was about three feet high and I started pinching. 

This year I'm pinching about three weeks ahead of what we did last year. So, that alone with the fact that this has been a very hot summer I'm testing to see if we can get a better result then last year.

On top of pinching this year, I also scored on the shoots starting about six to seven leaves down on the four shoots I kept. Under each leaf petiole I scored about 1/16 of an inch into the green bark. Or until white latex came out. Then applied about a gallon of Miracle Grow, Bloom Booster. At each daily watering the Hardy Chicago gets sprayed with the Bloom Booster. This weekend we will be placing black plastic under each fig plant 

So, with pinching, scoring, Bloom Booster, black plastic heavy watering, and oiling we are testing to see whether or not figs can be grown with heavy mulching, like perennials, here in our part of Connecticut 

If your fig fruits are already the size of marbles, depending were you are located, I would think you would have a good chance of getting ripe fruit, this year. 

Of the one year old fig plants we planted, bent to the ground and buried last year we have about 45 fig fruits, so far. The fig fruits range in size from pea size to marble size. 

What part of the country are you in Ox?  

Subject: Fig Oiling Replies: 19
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Bass, nice looking educational pictures. 

I had read some time back about oiling figs to get them to ripen earlier. But, the article said it was done by placing olive oil into the eye. This I did with the only three figs we had from a Hardy Chicago that had been late frost killed to the ground. One fig ripened in early November, with fair taste. The other two did not ripen. 

But, that was not to bad considering the very cold summer we had in 2009, and the fact that it was November when it became ripe.

 Did you place oil in the eye of the fig also? Or placing the oil any where on the fig works just as well?  Bob

Subject: June 01 2010Fig Embryos forming DATA! Replies: 8
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Embryos that are just starting to form here on June 14 in Connecticut are: Brooklyn White, Hardy Hartford, Sal's Corleone, Marseillese Black VS, Kathleen's Black and Violetta. The Brooklyn White and the Hardy Hartford have the largest embryos.They are about the size of a small kernel of corn. I'm surprised that our two year old Violetta is behind Brooklyn White and Hardy Hartford.  All plants except for Violetta were only planted last fall. Looks like we are any where from 1 to two weeks behind figs putting out main crop figs in Southern New Jersey.


Subject: New member from a bit far away Replies: 41
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Nelson, those are some the largest figs I have ever seen.

I thought Dalmatie was a bad splitter in wet summer parts of the country?

Is it being grown in a pot?


Subject: figs in Pennsylvania Replies: 24
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Bass, do you think the figs that are 15 feet tall might indicate that those are the most hardy ones?

Could you  take pictures of the ones that are15 tall and see what they taste like.

 Bass, have you been able to locate any fig trees in your area that are taller then 15? 

Please keep posting your great pictures of figs being grown in the cold north.


Subject: figs in Pennsylvania Replies: 24
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Bass, your doing a great job in locating figs growing out side in a very cold part of the country. 

How are you able to locate all these fig trees? Of all the people we correspond with who are trying to locate figs growing outside in the zone 6 and lower, none of us are able to locate as many fig trees in the cold part of the country as you do.

 Have you ever thought about having a tour once a year for people interested in growing figs in the cold north? 

There appears to be at least two different locations. Figs on the property of a brick house and figs on the property of a white fence. Or, are they on the same property?Bob

Subject: New member from a bit far away Replies: 41
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Yuri, how close is Kherson to Mykolaive, Ukraine?

Subject: New member from a bit far away Replies: 41
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YURI: Hello, thanks for posting the pictures. Yuri, what is the coldest it gets in Kherson. Do the local figs ripen before frost?

OTTAWAN: Have you been able to find any local figs that have been growing out side for a while, in your area? Bob

Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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Martin, sorry about the mix up of names. That post was suppose to be a response to Mike in Florida. 

We have been looking for a fig that can go through the winter without winter protection and ripen figs, in ou rcold zone 6 part of Connecticut.

 I agree with you as to there may not be perhaps a fig that will over winter without being winterized in a zone 5.

But, to our surprise we were able to get one fig to ripen from a in question, "Hardy Chicago" fig, that had been killed to the ground. After it resprouted, we pinched it, added fertilizer and three figs appeared. Only one ripened. But we pinched late sometime in July. We did no read Herman's post about pinching until after the season for pinching was just about over.

This is one of the things we will be testing. That is to see if we can get a decent size crop from a particular cultivar that has been frozen back to ground level, then come back and produce. One of the reason we are looking for cultivars that could ripen in mid July, if not frozen back. But, still ripen it's figs later after being killed back to the ground. 

I have started to hear from growers in some parts of the north who are doing just that. 

Mike, I have found that a lot of figs up here that do not ripen is because they were not pinched back. Then for three months or so the plant spends all it's energy making more green figs, instead of ripening the ones that it produced in July. That might work for any one who has to deal with late and early frost.

Is there any one out there who is getting a decent size crop from a fig that is killed to the ground each year. But, then comes back grows and still produces a good size crop of figs.

I have read post where some growers are getting ripe figs from trees that have frozen back to ground level, and I don't think they are pinching. 

So, on top of looking for figs that are winter cold hardy, late & early frost resistant, and taste good, we are looking for figs that have those traits and can still produce a decent size crop after dying back each year. This may end up being the only way those of us in a zone 5 location or a very cold zone 6 location can grow figs outside with out winterizing. Bob  

Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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Martin, I don't know of any thing that can take 70 degrees one day and then take 17 degrees during the night. As I had mentioned earlier we have lost even hickory seedlings when the weather does that here. I was only reporting what happened to us with one potted Marseillese Black VS. I was only commenting on the fact that the two hour freeze killed the pomeganada, wich was no surprise. But the fact that the peach seedling which was about three feet was killed and not the fig surprised us. 

I was never aware that there was part of Florida that had that type of wide swings in weather. I thought we had it rough here in our part of Connecticut trying to grow figs where it can get as low as minus 21 degrees fahrenheit and has late and early freezing.

That is why we look for fig trees that have already been tested and proven in our area. Marseillese Black VS was found in the Maryland area by Warren Turner. It was then test farther north into New Jersey by Herman. Now we are testing farther north to see if it will perform for us, as well as it did for Herman

We think it might be able to even take more cold then the minus 7 degrees it took in Maryland. But, that does not mean it would be the best for your area. Nor for our area since we to have to deal with late and early freezes. How long the freeze last plays a part in whether or not a plant will survie or die. 

I think if were to have put maybe a 100 different fig cultivars out that day, some would have been killed while some would have been able to take it. I was only reporting that to our surprise Marseillese Black seems to be to a certain degree able to take some late frost or freezing weather.  

Those years where it goes from 70 or 80 during the day time several times and then back into freezing after a tree has broken dormacy, I would think most trees would be either killed or set back. I don't know how Marseillese Black VS taste. But Herman seems to think it taste good grown outside without winter protection in his part of New Jersey. 

Although I have never tried this before I will try to up load a picture of the fruit, so that others can see what it looks like.

Have you been able to locate any local  fig trees in your part of Florida, that have been proven over the decades to be able to take your weather most of the time? 

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Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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LITTLE JOHN: I got my Marseillese Black VS direct from Herman last spring, as cuttings. I planted them out that following fall. I wanted the root system to develope over the winter. My plants are still small. But, if you have not been able to secure some by this time next year, send me an email and I should have extra by then.

 BASS: The pomegranate that was killed by the late frost this year was not the one I bought from you. It was the free one you sent that was of a different cultivar. The cold hardy one I bought from you was not put outside until just a week ago. I just re-potted it yesterday.  

HERMAN: two winters ago we even lost hickory seedlings to a late spring frost. So, yes I agree with you about frost resistance being as important as cold hardiness. Did you get the picture of the bowl of Marseillese Black VS I sent to you? 


Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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HERMAN: We to, have also  found  frost resistance is as important as cold hardiness. We get many a new nut or fruit here to get through the winter only to be killed by a late or early frost.

 LITTLE JOHN:  After reading your question about I went onto the internet for pictures of FMD. Then I went outside and checked all four of our Marseillese Black VS figs for FMD. As far as I can determine none of them appear to be affected by FMD.

BASS: We had been taking the plants out every day for over a week. They had acclimated to the sun. The damage came from freezing. It got down to 32 degrees for at least two hours before we got home. I have seen enough frost and freeze damage to be able to tell which is sun scald and which is freeze damage.

I was not surprise that the Pomegranate was affected by the cold. But, what really surprised me was the fact that the peach seedling was also affected by the cold. But, the fact that the fig was also in leaf and excaped the frost really, really surprise us. I think this Marseillese is going to turn out to be a real winner for the Northeast

Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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Around the first of April it got very warm here in our part of Connecticut. We had in the basement a potted Marseillese BlackVS, a cold hardy pomegranate from Trees of Joy and a peach seedling from our Crawford peach treee. All three had started to leaf out. So we put then outside. Then late that evening a cold front came down and before we could get home and get the plants back in, the leaves on the peach seedling and the pomegranate had turned silver. About two weeks later all the leaves on the pomegranate AND THE PEACH seedling fell off and both tress died. But, the Marseillese Black VS had no damage to the leaves or the plant it's self. So, thank you Warren and Herman for finding it and testing it. I have been talking to other fig collectors now for about five years and from what they had been telling me, I was starting to think that Marseillese BlackVS might be a lot hardier then the minus 7 degrees the historical weather bureau is showing for the area where the tree is growing. 

Has any one been growing Marseillese Black outside without winter protection like Herman. But farther north? 

Herman, if you have it, could you possible post  again the picture of the bowl of Marseillese Black VS with a bowl of Sal's EL.

 Also Herman, in your testing have you come up with another fig to compete with Marseillese Black VS and Sal's for cold hardiness and taste?  

Thanks to all of you who have provided so much info on Marseillese Black VS and other cold hardy figs. My correct email address is robertcharper(symbol at)

Subject: Winter 2010,Fig Cultivars Cold hardeness results! Replies: 15
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Herman, out of the first 16 figs that you did not cover at all, which three would you select as being the best tasting?

Subject: fig trees in Montreal Replies: 9
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Montreal, that's a impressive fig tree for Canada. Is there any fig forum members in that area who could get some pictures of the tree, while it's still winter? It looks like it is bearing breba as well as main crop figs???? It seems like that would be very difficult in that area. It appears to maybe be a very cold hardy fig tree. Would be nice if we all could see how he is winter protecting it. thanks for posting it. I'm going to see if I can get my translator working again and join that form. Bob

Subject: 100+ Year Old Fig Tree In Cairo, IL Replies: 31
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Saxonfig, that sounds like a good find. In checking the weather history for Cairo, Il. they indicated it has gotten as low as minus 12 degrees fahrenheit in the last 25 years there. It has also gotten as low as minus 9 degrees fahrenheit several times in the last 21 years. It sounds like it might be a good fig for fig growers in the upper midwest in zones 6 and lower and maybe other northern zone 6 locations, as well. I guess it will all depend on how much heat is needed to get ripe fruit from it. So, I for one, will be waiting to hear how the fruit taste. There are many figs tested to grow outside with and without winter protection. Such as Long Island's zone 7. But, we do indeed need more of us out searching for old fig trees that might be growng in zone 6 through 4. Bob

Subject: The Hardiness Challenge Replies: 59
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Herman, has everyone who has tried fruiting Florea in the United states, all reported back that they could not get Florea to fruit good tasting figs? Also, since Florea is a cold hardy Romanian fig, have you been able to test any other cold hardy Romanian figs that perhaps came from your father's village? Have any fig testers living in desert areas reported back being able to get Florea to produce good tasting figs?  Bob

Subject: The Hardiness Challenge Replies: 59
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Matt, I'm also looking for figs that can be grown out side without winter protection, in our cold zone 6 in Connecticut. When I say cold I mean cold. It got down to minus 11 degrees Fahrenheit here last year. after doing research for a year on which figs were available. We ended up planted last summer, Marseilles Black VS, Ronde de Bordeaux, Sal's Corleone, Hardy Hartford and Brooklyn White. Two years ago we planted Violetta. Five years ago we planted one of the Hardy Chicago variant. We received cuttings this last fall of Atreano and Danny's Delight. In checking the historical weather data for Pittsburgh I find that your weather station is reporting a low of only minus 7 degrees Fahrenheit for Pittsburgh and that happened January 16, 2009. I'm thinking you already have the hardy fig your looking for, Marseilles Black VS, In talking to Herman2, he told me that Marseilles Black VS has been growing in Columbia, Maryland without winter protection since 1947. The weather station for that area is indicating that it gets colder in Columbia, Maryland then it does in Pittsburgh, PA. Also, Bass of Tress of Joy has found several unknowns in the Bethlehem area that were unprotected when he found them. The Bethlehem, PA. weather records indicate that Bethlehem also gets a lot colder the Pittsburgh. I intend to add Bass's Bethlehem Black to our test plot this spring. My correct email address is robertcharper at symbol Hope this information helps. Bob 

Subject: I finally won a contest Replies: 19
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Bass, That is a great looking picture. Your pictures of fruit are among the best I have seen in a long time. They are the type of pictures that make a person want to buy the plant. Bob 

Subject: BLACK MADEIRA Replies: 8
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Martin, thanks for the info. We have all the figs you mentioned except for Sal's and Gino's fig. We have Sal's coming from Herman and I will check out Gino's fig.                                                                                                                                                                                                               LosLunas Farms, thanks for the offer. But we already have 5 Black Marseilles VS.  in pots that we started from cuttings from Herman back in May. They are tow to three feet tall now.                                                                                                                                                                                                          I posted this request for a good substitute to take the place of Black Madeira after reading Jon of Encanto Farms nursery'c comment about Black Madeira being heaven. But, here in the Northeast I hear that Black Madeira can only be grown inside. But, we are searching and testing for Figs that are at least hardy enough to be grown outside with out winter protection. Like Herman we are in a zone 6. But, our zone six gets a lot colder then Herman's zone 6. Although most of the time it only drops to around 0 degress here, last winter it got down to minus 11 degrees fahrenheit. Robert

Subject: BLACK MADEIRA Replies: 8
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For in ground growing with/without winter protection. I should also add it it should also taste good. Thanks Robert

Subject: BLACK MADEIRA Replies: 8
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Does anyone have an idea of what fig would be a good substitute for a cold zone 6, for growing out side to take the place of Black Madeira???? Robert

Subject: My nice "Marseillaise"¿? Replies: 20
Posted By: robertharper Views: 3,252
Axier, that is indeed a beautiful fig tree. What company did you buy the net from? Bob

Subject: Barnisotte Black! Replies: 6
Posted By: robertharper Views: 963

Herman, I agree also. Those are not only super nice pictures, but because you are doing so much advance work for those of us trying to grow figs in the north, your input is greatly appreciated. Once again, I have to ask how cold hardy is Barnisotte compared to Marseille Black vs, on a scale of 1 to 10?  Did you have it winter protected the last four years? How does it compare to the taste of Gene's Kathleen's Black on a scale of 1 to 10? Bob 

Subject: 143-36 is a winner here,in NJ Replies: 13
Posted By: robertharper Views: 1,645

Herman, that's a very high score for the 143-36. Was it grown unprotected last winter? If so, has it been able to withstand as much cold as Marseille Black vs, since you have been trialing it? Bob

Subject: Gota Love Pictures Replies: 8
Posted By: robertharper Views: 790

ccc1, nice looking plant. Do you have it planted out side. If so, how are you protecting it from winter cold. Bob Harper

Subject: FreezePruf to protect fig plants? Replies: 7
Posted By: robertharper Views: 1,099

Has any one had any expierence in using FreezePruf to increase the cold hardyness of their in ground fig plants. If so, how much more cold hardyness were you able to obtain? Bob Harper

Subject: Naples white Replies: 4
Posted By: robertharper Views: 981

Bass, how does your Naples white compare to your Brooklyn white when it comes to cold hardyness? Bob Harper


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