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Subject: LSU Everbearing Replies: 3
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Hi Cajunguy.  Welcome to the forum.  Wish I could help you, but someone here can do so.

Where do you live?  I'm in Lafayette.

noss

Subject: VERY SWEET Black Celeste - pics Replies: 39
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Hi Dennis,

Good pics, thanks.  Your BC's leaves look just like mine and they came from the same place.  I got an Italian Black from Dalton and I guess it's the same, as well.  Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures.

Ed,

My Celestes both put on brebas here, but they don't get ripe for me, so I pick them off the trees.  They come on looking great, but the ones I've picked, though they seemed ripe tasted awful.  But Celestes do have brebas here.  Maybe up where you are, they don't.  I don't really understand how the MB is a grandparent to the Celeste. 

It is said the BC tastes like a regular Celeste, but doesn't drop the figs in the heat.  Sounds good to me.  :)  Whether it's really a Celeste--Who knows?  If it's good, I don't care anymore.

noss

Subject: Does moss damage a tree? Replies: 18
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Hmmpf--I'm glad someone is getting rain!

That tree doesn't look so crooked.  What I've been doing with crooked trees is getting those green stakes from HD and I put them into the soil next to the trees and then I makes strips out of old T-shirts and use them to pull the trunks up more straight.  You can train the trunk bit by bit and the T-shirt is soft and pliable and it doesn't tend to bite into the bark.

Those green stakes are in different lengths and thicknesses and I really like them.

noss

Subject: Info for Citrus Growers only Replies: 23
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Dan,

What brand of fertilizer do you recommend for citrus?

I was told that I didn't need to fertilize my young trees for a year because they came with controlled release fertlizer in the pots.

One Satsuma is in the gound and the other is in a 16" pot.  The Meyer Lemon is in the same size pot, as is the Key Lime tree.  They all came with timed release fertlizer in their original pots.

Do you agree that I shouldn't fertilize them?  I'm new to citrus and want to get them off to a good start and not harm them.

Thanks,

noss

Subject: Name this fig and win it! Replies: 22
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Gene,  I'm glad you think it's so simple.  Maybe because I'm so simple, I just don't "get" how to get the hang of it.  :)

noss

Subject: VERY SWEET Black Celeste - pics Replies: 39
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Dennis,  Where did you get your Black Italian tree from?  I have a tree that's labeled as Italian Black that I got from Dalton, along with the Native Black and Black Celeste.

I saw Black Celestes on Dalton's larger tree and the were very black like little lumps of charcoal.

noss

Subject: Too much rain? Replies: 18
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Awww Canyscud,  Don't lose heart.  What a sweet thing to do, trying to keep the roses alive like that.

Could people in mole country possible plant their trees in a cage of fine wire to protect the basic plant from moles?  The roots would spread out beyond the wire.  Maybe that's a dumb idea.

Don't give up on your plants.  There are ways to get rid of moles--Go get 'em, Guy!  :)

noss

Subject: Too much rain? Replies: 18
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Caneyscud--Nothing at all wrong with a Brown Turkey and that's a pretty little tree, at that.  :)

What is your other tree that you said may be DOA?  I hope it isn't.

noss

Subject: VERY SWEET Black Celeste - pics Replies: 39
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Hi Y'all,  I see the pictures just fine.  How strange.

Dan, do you think the Black Celeste that Dalton sells is different from the one you have if he keeps all his plants-the young ones-out on the apron near the road and they don't get any freeze damage like he told me?  Or what do you think would make the difference?

He said the inside of his Black Celeste is red, which was why I wondered if it was the same as the Malta Black, initially.  I'll get to go taste some this year, but my BCs that I cut apart in early Spring both have figs coming on them, so maybe I'll get to taste those.  My experience with the BC is that it's a strong tree, a strong grower because I sawed the tree in two and potted both sections and they sat for several days, then both continued to leaf out and grow.  It's no wonder that yours keeps coming up every time it's frozen back.

noss

Subject: LSU Gold makes my first Replies: 9
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That's good to know, Dan, about the LSU Gold tree.  Is it also a later fig?

noss

Subject: Name this fig and win it! Replies: 22
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Gene, talking about twins--I now realize the strangly shaped fig on the Smith is actually a Siamese twin fig.  It has two melded stems and fruit.  Weird.  I need to get a photo of it when Mike gets back home for y'all to see.

noss

Subject: Found this hitchhiker Replies: 6
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One would not want to taste that, would one?

noss

Subject: VERY SWEET Black Celeste - pics Replies: 39
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I would think it matters where you live, how hardy the BC would be.  Down here, we have to be careful that a warm spell doesn't get the sap flowing only to have a freeze come along and the tree splitting because of it.  Celeste can do that easily.

I also wondered if the MB & BC were the same.  Did Herman say he has a BC, as well?  I know he has the MB.

Paully, did the Celeste drop all of its figs?

I talked to someone at Becnel Nursery the other day about my citrus trees from them and asked about the Celestes dropping their figs and he told me to keep putting the water to them.  I told him how I have done that and it made no difference and didn't stop the dropping.  He asked me if the tree was loaded with figs and when I told him yes, he said that there's no way a Celeste could possibly support all the figs they tend to get on them.

Paully, where do you live?  I can't remember just offhand.

noss 

Subject: VERY SWEET Black Celeste - pics Replies: 39
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Dalton Durio said he'd never heard that Black Celeste was not cold hardy and theirs, including the little ones in small pots, sit out all winter without protection.  Maybe the concrete around that spot and heat from the road and cars have some effect upon them doing all right where they are at the nursery.  Dan has said they are not cold hardy, but was that only when they were little?

A couple of people have said they don't think MB & BC are the same variety.  It will be fun to be kept posted with Dennis' two trees for comparison.

noss

Subject: Breba New World. Replies: 114
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Yep, how bout those figs!!!

I don't know about Holliers--don't have one of those.  I've been told that, here, if there's enough rain, any fig will split, but I think they mean days and days of rain, or  heavy rains right when the figs are ripening.  It will even split and sour Celestes, but they have thin skins.

I'm anxious to taste the figs from the Black Celestes.  Dalton Durio said I could come taste the black Celestes of their tree when they are ripening, so I will, to compare the taste to mine, which are young trees.

If my Black Celestes do well this season, and they look like they are doing so and growing well, I'll leave the brebas on them next season.

The tree at Durio Nursery is sitting out on black nursery matting and is in a concrete planter and was doing fine even with all the heat and the place where the figs are are right near the highway, so there is extra heat from cars and the road.  They  have nice, overhead sprinklers there to keep the plants watered well.  I'm optimistic about the Black Celestes.

noss

Subject: Any effect from street lights ? Replies: 3
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Would the kind of lighting it is determine the effect it would have on the plants?  I have no idea what spectrum street lights give off.  We have a street light to the right front of our house as we're facing the house.  The carport keeps some of the fig and citrus trees in shadow, but the light hits some of them and I never gave it a thought as to whether the light could affect them.  We have lights that look amber when you look at them.

noss

Subject: Is my Fig tree dying? UPDATE! Replies: 39
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Hi Pami,

So glad to hear from you and that you are all right.  I'll keep everyone in my prayers.  Keep letting us hear from you, OK?  :)

noss

Subject: Breba New World. Replies: 114
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I found an LSU Purple breba that I hadn't removed when I picked off the others and it was almost ripe, but a bird had pecked a hole in it, so I picked it and ate it.  It was almost good, being almost ripe.  Next season, I'll leave the LSU Purple brebas on the tree.

Also, I found a Hunt breba, same scenario as the LSU Purple and no bird had bothered it.  When I first saw it, it was yellow, so I left it on the tree until it had softened and drooped as far as it could.  I picked it and tasted it, but it didn't have any flavor.  I don't know if I should have left it on the tree longer and if I had, would it have tasted any better.  It had only a shadow of flavor.

Dennis, I have two Black Celestes and picked off the brebas because I had split the tree in two and didn't want to tax them by leaving the brebas on it this season.  It's good to know that the brebas taste good.

noss

Subject: LSU Gold makes my first Replies: 9
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Hi Dennis,

Did you check the wood to see if it's still green and all of those kinds of checks?  I'm sure you must have, but you could leave the tree in the soil and see if it sends anything up from the roots?  It seems like many times people think their trees are dead only to have them send up new growth at a later time.

Are LSY Gold trees like the LSU Purples in that they need some age on them for the fruit to taste better?

My potted LSU Gold tree hasn't shown any indication of putting out any figs this year, so I don't know what's going on with it.

Woe is us, eh?  :(

noss

Subject: Is my Fig tree dying? UPDATE! Replies: 39
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Hello Gia,

I have used wicks in my potted fig trees and they help to keep the soil from staying too wet.

The wicks need to be 100% Rayon, so the water will wick out of the pot best.  You use 100% rayon string mop replacement heads and I get them at Wal-Mart, but anywhere you can find 100% rayon mop heads will be fine.

I find the wicks also work on hard surfaces, too.

Good luck with your "new baby."  :)

Pami,

I hope all will be well with you.

noss

Subject: Natural air layer? Replies: 20
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Hi Gorgi,

I was going through some older threads and came across this one.

Earlier this season, I needed to repot my Black Celeste and recalled that you said you used a saw to cut yours apart.

I used a regular pruning saw and cut the Black Celeste in two and repotted both halves and they have done very well, so far.

Thanks again for the post.  It helped.

noss

Subject: Name this fig and win it! Replies: 22
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I don't know what the fig is, but some of my Smith figlets are doing strange things like getting lumps on some of them.

Do these trees put on strange figs all the time?

noss

Subject: Best mix for potting up started cuttings Replies: 14
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Mike and I bought some soil conditioner to add to the topsoil we got to put under the inground tree out back.  We didn't finish everything the first day and that night, it rained hard.  When we checked to see how the soil did in the rain, we found that the soil had sunk through the mixture and all that was on top of the mix was fine pinebark mulch.  Very nice, small pieces.

I'm going to try sifting the soil out of it and use that for the potted figs in the potting mixes.

We got the soil conditioner at HD and it is called, Gardeneze Premium Soil Conditioner, if anyone is interested.  We can't find any bagged pinebark fines around here, so I was glad to see what had happened with the rain.  If we'd finished the whole area under the tree and put the mulch over the soil and soil conditioner, we'd never have seen what was in the soil conditioner.

noss

Subject: Another reason to watch what you eat. Replies: 11
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LOL TMC!   Brunswick Watermelons!  :)

We shouldn't mess with Mother Nature.  It says people misused the chemical.

It says they misuse insecticides, as well.  That's a shame.

noss

Subject: I finally figured it Why figs with FMV,from Ca Collection,don't want to grow on East Coast. Replies: 26
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Dan,  The bag I have says it's limestone and dolomitic limestone and warns that it contains silica and not to inhale the dust.


Herman, I'm glad you started this thread.

noss


Subject: I finally figured it Why figs with FMV,from Ca Collection,don't want to grow on East Coast. Replies: 26
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Aw geez, guys--Now I'm confused again---

WHICH kind of lime is the kind we want to use??!!??  I've got Deco Lime, which is lawn lime and it says extended release and looks like a white powder, but it's heavy and doesn't tend to drift in the wind.  It waters right into the mulch, or soil.

When I'm spreading it, it's cool to the touch and falls to the soil rapidly instead of drifting in a breeze.  The feed store sold it to me.

Dan, do we want very alkaline, or not?

noss

Subject: Skardu Black Replies: 20
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Well, maybe the formula that works down here doesn't necessarily work in a cooler climate, as I posed above.  The 3-2-1 might be better for inground trees up North.

It appears that potted fig trees work on a different formula, but I got all kinds of growth in the pots last season with the 3-2-1 MG I fed the trees, so they seem to be nitrogen sensitive even in the pots down here.  Hard to tell anything in just one season, as you know.  But I wasn't unhappy about the growth for their first season.  I had to make up for almost killing the poor babies after repotting five of them 4 times and the sixth, 3 times.

So, I'm wondering if the straight fertilizer would still be good for the pots down here and just need flushing periodically.

The one feed store here recommends the 3-2-1 for figs.  I ran into that before I found the forums and the debate about it here, sooooo we'll see some day.  Dr. Mayer also recommended giving the trees a shot of nitrogen fertilizer in the early Spring, but that was just one time, then a regular fertilizer, but I lost those notes and don't know which regular fertilizer he said to get.

I'm so new to figs that I'm open to looking at different possibilities.  I don't think there is any one master key for the whole country.  I don't think, with nature, you can say there's only one way because nature isn't static.  It also tries to work with what is there for it.

I think we all need to be able to think in all directions and not lock ourselves into any one midset, or we're apt to miss something important.  I have no formal education in botany, or chemistry, so I listen to others who do have that education, but I also look at what's in front of me and have seen that things of nature don't always adhere to man's formulas.  :)

I still swear that I could stand in front of those two trees and actually see them growing.  :)  (Not)

Subject: Sad day for me Replies: 37
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Hello Will,

I'm sorry you lost your Uncle Sonny last evening.  God bless you and yours at this sad time.  My sister, Mary Lou, died on the 6th of May and I'm still reeling from her loss even though it wasn't really unexpected.

I'm sharing cyber-hugs with you and Gene and keeping both of you in my heart, thoughts and prayers.

Love,

noss

Subject: Skardu Black Replies: 20
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I wouldn't DARE put a higher nitrogen fertilizer on my inground fig trees.  They, especially the one out back, would try to take over the whole city.

I saw what happens with higher nitrogen fertilizer the two years Mike tried to murder the two Celestes with lawn weed and feed.  First, the weed killer socked the two trees so hard all the leaves wilted back and I thought the trees were dead, for sure.  But then the feed part got to them several days later and the trees came back and shot up like they were going to go into orbit.  No figs started and the node spacing was huge.  The trees only got figs later in the season and not very many of them.

I told Mike that it was the weed and feed that did that to the trees and he refused to believe me, so he repeated the same regimen the next year, after the larger Celeste had been planted out back inground.

That tree had been in a pot the season before, when the weed and feed first hit it.  After that, it had literally burst out of its 5-gallon pot and planted itself into the ground and had gotten some amazing trunk growth toward the end of the season, so it was pretty hefty by the time it was transplanted out back.  (It wouldn't stop growing.  Even so, it never froze back anywhere over the winter.)

So Mike, again, put weed and feed on the lawn in front and back and guess what happened?  I told Mike that it was the weed and feed and he got so mad at me I wanted to kill him.  I was convinced he wanted to murder my trees so he didn't have to mow around them.

The following year, I cried at him and asked him to please not put that weed and feed anywhere near my fig trees, told him, again, that fig trees put roots all over the place and that's why the weed and feed affected them.  I told him to just not do it that year.  So he didn't put any weed and feed near the trees and they did beautifully, which was proof enough to him that that stuff needed to be kept away from the trees.  Then he felt badly about the trees.

The tree out back was all messed up for several years and I didn't think she was going to make it, but she did.

I know the lawn feed had much more nitrogen in it that a higher nitrogen fertilizer for plants would have and the trees had an exaggerated reaction to it, but for inground trees, I wouldn't want to put a fertilizer on them with even just 3-2-1.  I don't want to chance that when they put on such lush growth without it.

I would think that trace minerals would also be good for inground, or potted trees.

This is just my opinion after my experiences with my trees.

I've read that fig trees are nitrogen-sensitive and I think they just might be.  It might make a difference because fig trees are semi-succulents.

I saw what too much nitrogen did to my trees and it did indeed delay fig production and ripening.  I saw this for myself.

Potted figs may be a different story as to the fractions of P & K building up in the soil after the N is used up.

Sometimes what people think SHOULD be, on paper, and what IS, are two different things. 

Maybe it only applies to the Southern regions of the country because it's warmer and the growing season is longer and the trees have more time to put on growth compared to how they do in the cooler parts of the country.

What's sauce for the goose may not always be sauce for the gander when you look at the vast expanse of this country.

Balanced fertilizer might not work for cooler regions of this country.

noss


Subject: Fig leaves curled/eaten Replies: 30
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OK, Ruben,

I'll use the wooden fencing, then.  Thanks for the advice--Much appreciated.  :)

noss

Subject: Sad day for me Replies: 37
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Gene,

I'm so sorry to hear of your loss.  Even when we know it's coming, like with your mother and my sister, it's still terrobly painful and leaves you feeling so empty.  There's nothing like the loss of a mother.  Our prayers are with you and your family.

God bless you and yours,

V

Subject: My First Breba Fig Replies: 12
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Hi Tim!

I'm waiting for da birds to find the blackberry plants I have on my carport and the red raspberries that are with them.  They will probably strip them in the next few days, but they're not gonna get the blueberries because the birdnets are coming out.

I've not gotten several plants potted up because I've not been feeling very well--no energy, but I'm getting it done bit by bit.

The LSU P breba was a complete surprise, or I'd have gotten the bird nets out before the birds could have gotten it.

If you have LSU P brebas, I'll surely be interested in how they taste when fully ripe.

:)

noss

Subject: My First Breba Fig Replies: 12
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That's too bad the breba fig wasn't all the way ripe.

I found a breba fig on my LSU Purple this morning.  I hadn't seen it and it was almost ripe, but a bird had pecked a hole in it, so I picked it and ate it.  It almost tasted good.  Wish I'd noticed it was getting ripe.  I'd though I'd picked all the brebas off that little tree, but this one got by me.  Now I'm sorry I picked the brebas off, but there are quite a few main crop figs on the tree.

How bout them birds?

noss

Subject: Fig leaves curled/eaten Replies: 30
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Ruben, 

I didn't mention that my potted fig trees are across the front of my house, so they'd only need the shade on the front sides.  someone mentioned using lattice in another thread and that might be good for air circulation.  If I put the potted figs out back, they would need shelter on both sides.

Thanks,

noss

Subject: Miracle Gro waterings vs Slow release fertilizer Replies: 24
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Dan,

I just killed a cutting with the peat pot in the plastic cup.  The peat pot didn't fit snugly into the plastic cup and it got condensation between the two.  I guess I don't know what I'm doing.  It was outside under the carport.  I didn't use a bag first.

noss

Subject: Made some shade today Replies: 39
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Dominick!  Maybe I could make a fence to shade the pots out of that lattice!!!  They even make it in plastic and that might be better for what I want to use it for.  If I could get the wooden lattice with the smaller openings, that would be even better.  I'm so glad I read this thread.

The lattice would be good shade for my herb plants, too. 

Thanks,

noss

Subject: Some Varieties More Likely to Look Heat Stressed? Replies: 18
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Thanks, Dan.  I would just paint a pot if it were dark in color.

I'm thinking of using the cheap coolers with the flat sides to stick on the back side of the fence, if I make it, to shade the trees and bottoms of the trees.  The smaller pots that are in back of the larger ones, out front, are faring better and I think it's because the pots are shaded.

noss

Subject: Snow Coming Your Way Replies: 54
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That's great to hear.  So, does that mean the third tree still might be alive, hopefully?

noss

Subject: nice to meet everyone Replies: 2
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Hiya Bob,

Welcome to F4F.

This is a very good forum with many fine people who are so good about helping newbies and everyone else with questions, etc.

noss


Subject: Some Varieties More Likely to Look Heat Stressed? Replies: 18
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Dan,

Where does one get those styrofoam pots?  I'm thinking of buying some cheap foam coolers to line the backside of the little fence I'm thinking of putting up to shade the pots and the lower part of the trees.

Thanks,

noss

Subject: Wter barrel with floating sunflowers seeds Replies: 20
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Cathy,

I think you'd need to get a bigger barrel.....

noss

Subject: Pre-Fig Fruit Season Replies: 20
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I have some Arapaho thornless blackberries that are ripening now, which is pretty good because I've not had the chance, or the energy to pot them up.

Also, I just found three raspberries one of the potted raspberry plants.  So far, all the blooms have not made fruit, so I don't know why that was.  Never tried raspberries down here--Just got them a few weeks ago.  The raspberries are Dormans and I have no idea what that means and some people don't think they taste any good, but they're evidently the only raspberries that will fruit down this far South, so I hope to be able to taste them before too long.  They need to be potted up, as well.

There is a large mulberry tree next door that was a volunteer quite a few years ago, now.  It almost looks like the berries are a whitish pink.  I've never liked mulberries, but many people do.  We used to play in a large tree when I was a kid.

The people who had that mulberry tree we played in had these vines that grew on their fence and it had tiny potatoes that grew on it.  I should say they had tiny potato-looking things growing on them, but I don't know what they were and we knew not to eat unidentified things, so for all I know, they were poisonous.

Is a Goumi one of those Miracle Fruits?  I'll have to google it and see.

noss

Subject: Fig leaves curled/eaten Replies: 30
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Hi Ruben,

If I put up a low wooden fence (decorative) that would shade my pots and the root area of the potted trees, do you think that would help them in the heat and brutal sun here?

noss

Subject: Potted figs and rain Replies: 9
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Rain seems to refresh all the fig trees I have in pots, the little citrus trees, as well.  Much more so than water from the hose.  Wish it would rain more often.

I think Mother Nature has had a nervouse breakdown in the past few years, especially this year.  Must be going through her menopause, or something.  She's really on a tear and a bad one, at that.

Now the MS River is acting all big and bad, too.  God help us all!

noss

Subject: Fig leaves curled/eaten Replies: 30
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Hi Centurion,

You are right about the roots getting hot in pots.  They do and I think it really stresses the trees.  I don't think even white pots keep the roots cool enough.

Someone on one of the forums had trees in pots and had them up on racks that I believe shaded the pots with wide boards.  I want to try putting a low fence along the place where I have the pots, that will shade the lower part of the tree and pot.  Now I have to convince Mike to help me build this little fence.....

noss

Subject: Hardy and not so Hardy Replies: 21
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Hello Ox,

Where do you live?

I hope the trapper will be able to trap and relocate the big cat.

Thanks,

noss

Subject: How to make Potting Mixes by Dr. O'Rourke Replies: 21
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I got mine on eBay, as well, used, but great condition.  Remember to look at the person's feedback ratings.  IMO, it is pretty reliable with books.

noss

Subject: My trip to Opelousas, LA and meeting the Fig man Mr. James Robin Replies: 10
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Hi Navid,

What was that water spray that is at the back of JR's hoop house?

What did you think of his hoop house?  I'd love to have one of those.

He said he was going to cut his huge Celeste way back.  Did he do so?  I keep forgetting to ask him.

Great pictures, there.

I think of his riding mower as something that Tim, the Tool Man, Thomas would love--The Scooter on steroids.  Anh, anh, anh!

noss

Subject: bird netting enclosure Replies: 45
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Hi Ken,

What did you use to sew the netting on/together?  That enclosure looks great!  What a good job you did with it.

noss

Subject: Guilbeau photos Replies: 22
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We have a Guilbeau Rd. up the street from us and it is spelled w/o an x on the end of it.  But I doubt that's where the figs come from.....  :)

noss

 

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