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Subject: Killer Strom Introduces Spring Replies: 7
Posted By: jenia Views: 678
 
Peg,

Did you have damage to the house?

C.J.


Subject: Preto Replies: 55
Posted By: jenia Views: 5,118
 
Nelson, when did you start that Preto?  I got Preto sticks from 2 different people.  One practically jumped out of the baggie.  The other is taking its time.  Interesting.  It will be interesting to see if they develop differently once they start leafing out.

C.J.


Subject: mini greenhouse Replies: 2
Posted By: jenia Views: 531
 
Bought 2 from Lowes last year.  My only major criticism is that the "shelves" are flimsy and unstable.  I anchored them to the frame with plastic ties.  I may replace the shelves this ;year with hardware cloth.

Also, part of the frame is plastic so you have to use gentle pressure when you fit the metal uprights into the plastic part.  I damaged one part during assembly and had to shift it to the top of the structure.

They won't replace a real greenhouse, but they are good for light shelter while the weather is warming up.


Subject: Greenhouse Replies: 8
Posted By: jenia Views: 817
 
Be careful with those low, low priced greenhouses.  You get what you pay for.  I bought one from Costco Online a year ago.  Absolute crap.  Flimsy, the panels popped out from the slightest breeze, the door kept coming off.  It would disintegrate if it was subjected to direct wind.  After reconstructing it with screws and "battens", and putting it on the leeward side of the house, it was "okay' for very basic shelter...but I certainly wouldn't buy another one.

Subject: This is why I like Pro-mix BX Replies: 22
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,082
 
Hey, Nelson.  I want to make sure I understand what you did.  You used 100% ProMix?

When did you start the Abrebereira?

C.J.


Subject: Need your input, please help Replies: 4
Posted By: jenia Views: 942
 
I also ordered the medium-sized Paradiso, Black Triana, San Pietro, and Tarantella from Joe LATE in the year.  The Black Triana and San Pietro arrived with figs on them.  It was too late for them to ripen for me, but the trees were gorgeous and were packed like gold bullion.  I am interested to see how they do this year.

Italiangirl47 (Maggie) says that Joe's Paradiso is identical to the one her family has grown for decades...or was it centuries?

C.J.


Subject: Italian film - The Orange Thief Replies: 3
Posted By: jenia Views: 653
 
As I recall, a fig tree played a key role in the movies Jean de Florette and Manon of the Spring based on novels by Marcel Pagnol.  Both were excellent. They were set in Provence and featured 3 of France's greatest actors who were nominated for many international awards. 

C.J

Subject: time for cuttings to root Replies: 10
Posted By: jenia Views: 928
 
I keep my cuttings at around 73 F.  Most of the varieties this I am rooting this year seem to take 20-24 days to reach a point where they can be cupped, with a few rooting as fast as 9 days and others rooting at  6 weeks.  With very few exceptions, once roots actually begin to form, they are ready to be cupped in just 2-4 days.  If I wait longer, I have a mess detaching them from the paper towel.

C.J.


Subject: Greenhouse location / roof pitch Replies: 7
Posted By: jenia Views: 6,397
 
<LMAO>
I needed that!  Spring is coming.

C.J.




Subject: Just ate one fig Bon bon Replies: 2
Posted By: jenia Views: 695
 
Definitely will try the Italian recipe posted by Pezutti this weekend...with a little tweaking of my own...and will report back.  I worked for a an obscure luxury chocolate manufacturer year ago, but remember the recipe for their Budapest Truffles...perfect for stuffing a liquor-soaked fig. 

C.J.


Subject: Fig bonbon Replies: 29
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,069
 
John,
Thanks for the redirection.  I figured out the problem  There are no 16-piece boxes available; only 9-piece boxes.

C.J.


Subject: Some may be intersted in this Replies: 2
Posted By: jenia Views: 592
 
Thanks for that link!   Made me hungry.

Summertime alternative - quarter them (don't bake), drizzle them with Marsala, and top with a dollop of mascarpone, creme fraiche
, unsweetened whipped cream, or sour cream.

C.J.


Subject: Fig bonbon Replies: 29
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,069
 
Holy, mackerel!  You guys cleaned out the store! Was going to buy some for my beloved.  Guess I'll have to make do with Pezutti's recipe and some experimenting.

C.J.


Subject: Fig bonbon Replies: 29
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,069
 
Pezutti, thanks for the recipe.  I'm going to mess with it a little tomorrow night and will let you know how it turns out.

C.J.


Subject: Starbucks? Replies: 21
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,661
 
Duh.  Correction.  I BAGGED them 2/20.  Cupped a lot of other stuff that day, but not RL.  Sorry

C.J.

Subject: Starbucks? Replies: 21
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,661
 
Cupped 4 RL cuttings on 2/20 and have several 1/4" roots today on 2.  I know other of you got this as well.  Are you seeing the same kind of growth?

C.J.


Subject: What is it? Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,276
 
Phil, 
Any photos of the fruit?

C.J.


Subject: What is it? Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,276
 
Hi, Phil!  Thanks for posting here.  When I looked closely at your photos, I was pretty sure my "mystery fig" was the same.  The only thing that concerns me is the lack of growth in my plant,  it is over 3 years old and exhibits very little expansion.  I have taken cutting and  will watch them to see what kind of growth pattern they exihit.  It is possible that my plant has been stunted for whatever reason.  How old are the plants in your photo?
C.J.



Subject: What is it? Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,276
 
The possibilities are intriguing.  A fig for "garden borders", A fig naturally formed for the "Japanese method".  A fig for patios and window boxes...at least mine is.  A fig for "ground cover".  A fig for GoodDaughter. <G>


Subject: What is it? Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,276
 
Hmmm.

Nelson, the leaf form on that tree is pretty close to this one and the fruit pics(F4F varieties) also looks close.  You may have solved the mystery.

Satellitehead, I'll go down to the "dungeon" later today and take a good look (and pics).

C.J.


Subject: What is it? Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,276
 
Nelson,

Let me see if I understand you.  Are you saying that there is a separate variety recognized as "Dwarf Black Jack" or are you saying the Black Jack is genetically "dwarfed"?  If so, do the stems grow downward?  Although this photo doesn't clearly show it, in addition to having a "trailing" habit like Black Weeping, many of the stems actually grow downward,.

Do you happen to have a picture of a dwarf Black Jack or know where one might be posted?

C.J..


Subject: A Big Thank You!! Replies: 9
Posted By: jenia Views: 964
 
Funny, Until a couple of months ago, I always thought it was Fancya@@texan.  Then I got new glasses.

C.J.


Subject: What is it? Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,276
 
Martin, interesting observation.  I've taken several cuttings and will try to root them to see if the grow "normally" of display the same growth pattern.  I'll update this thread with the results...but it will be a while.

BTW, the fruit WAS large and it ripened in my living room when the temps got too cold to leave it outside.  It is fort of the fig version of the "patio tomato"

C.J.


Subject: What is it? Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,276
 
Last year was a complete wipe-out for me with Summer nighttime temps in the 40s-50s and daytime temps in the 70s...if I was lucky.  I could barely fill a plate the the ripe figs my trees produced.

Another forum member took pity on me and agreed to sell some of his mature trees.  One of the was odd but fascinating.  He bought it on Ebay 3 years ago as "Large Purple".  True, the fruit is large.  The tree itself is an entirely different matter. 

He had the tree 3 years and the photo below is it's size at the end of 3 years.  The trunk is growing horizontally and most of the "shoots" grow downwards.  "Dwarf" is an understatement in describing it.

I took some cutting this morning and will start them to see if they have the same growth pattern as the parent tree.

Could this have been the result of some sort of culture error like over-fertilizing?  Has anyone else seen something like this?

C.J.


Subject: Burgeoning pot ghetto-- ideas please? Replies: 10
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,115
 
Oh boy, can I relate to this one.

First of all, as a child of the 60s, I thought this was going to be a political thread. ("pot ghetto").  I LMAO when I discovered that it was not.

Well, yes, I have a couple of suggestions. I used cut-offs from our decking project and cut them to the height of some of the  pots and made a corral for them.  You can make a frame of something like left-over siding from the house, etc. You can fill in the top area and cover them with cocoa fiber or moss or something to hide the edges of the nursery pots of whatever.  Used bricks, landscaping blocks, whatever.

Alternatively, I can also help remove some of the homelier pots.  Just wanna help. <g>

C.J.


Subject: Satellitehead - good varieties for Sharpsburg, GA Replies: 13
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,382
 
Tim,

I will admit that my experience with Celeste so far is limited to a catalog variety.  What was wrong (before I killed it) was that it dropped a lot of its fruit and the fruit was very small compared with some other varieties.  As ejp3 would say, it leaves you wondering where the rest of the fig is. Otherwise, it was a nice, tasty fig, but not what I have in mind for a gift.  In the meantime, I am trying a couple of other varieties.

I'm looking at the LSU varieties as well as Condria, Hardy Chicago, etc.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.

C.J.


Subject: Fig videos with Ray Givan Replies: 27
Posted By: jenia Views: 4,671
 
Gorgi,

If you have a working computer, you can easily recover the data yourself, unless the hard drive is damaged.  Just determine what type the hard drive is (IDE, SATA, SATA2, etc.) and go to a site like Newegg.com where you can pick up an external hard drive case and a USB cable for around $30.  Pop the hard drive in the case, plug it into your working computer, open Windows Explorer, find the drive and copy your files.  If the hard drive is damaged, that's a whole differnt haircut.


Subject: Satellitehead - good varieties for Sharpsburg, GA Replies: 13
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,382
 
Jon and S.H.  Thanks for the links and advice.

As for Celeste and Brown Turkey, I think those are just about everyone's "first" figs.  I bought mine from the Miller Nursery catalog about 7-8 years ago.  It took me about 3 years to kill them.  I did everything wrong.

I think my friend and her husband are pretty representative of the general fig-eating public.  (Forum members have a more sophisticated taste and higher expectations of figs than most people.)  They like figs and the prospect of growing their own is exciting.  I don't think that either of them has ever eaten anything fresher than those from some place like Costco.  They are both from Virginia.

I am going to try to get them a selection that will produce decent figs over as long a season as possible, so the hunt is on.

C.J.


Subject: Satellitehead - good varieties for Sharpsburg, GA Replies: 13
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,382
 
A dear friend of mine just got married and bought a house in Sharpsburg, GA.  She wants 3 fig trees.  What does REALLY well in the ATL area?

C.J.


Subject: Experience with fig Lisa? Replies: 12
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,048
 
Thermostatic receptacle.  Great idea, Ox.  How cold does it get out by you?

C.J.


Subject: Experience with fig Lisa? Replies: 12
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,048
 
Ingevald,
Do you happen to know what variety your neighbor has?

C.J.

Subject: Experience with fig Lisa? Replies: 12
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,048
 
Ingevald,

Your neighbor is my kinda guy!  I'm going to try it...next year.  Thanks!

C.J.


Subject: Experience with fig Lisa? Replies: 12
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,048
 
Chills,

Yes I saw the pic of the Brunswick and first thought they had accidentally used a picture from some other exotic fruit.  Then I saw the smaller fig above it and read the description "pear-shaped".  Wild.

C.J.


Subject: Cuttings List posted 10:00 PST today Replies: 62
Posted By: jenia Views: 3,973
 
Got mine too!  It's Christmas in the Catskills!  Ran to Costco and got more plastic bins.  If all of these root, I'm in trouble.

C.J.


Subject: Experience with fig Lisa? Replies: 12
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,048
 
Ingevald,

Thanks.  Yes, I had checked the RN site but just wondered if anyone has grown this variety, and if so, how it tastes.  I'm going to try it anyway.

Your plywood box approach is interesting, but won't work to well for me as the location I am eyeing is about 60' from the house and any electrical source.  Next winter, I am going to experiment with  a 4' depth of leaves and a dark-colored tarp over a 6' x 6' area and a temperature probe to monitor soil temps over the winter.   I am hoping that  the combination of insulation and the dark tarp over a larger area will keep the interior of the soil temp above freezing.  Has anyone else tried this?

C.J.


Subject: Experience with fig Lisa? Replies: 12
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,048
 
Is anyone growing Lisa?  If so, I am curious where you are located, how it tastes,  and how it is doing for you.  Literature says it is hardy down to 0 F with protection.

Thanks.

C.J.


Subject: Varietal Growth Characteristics Replies: 8
Posted By: jenia Views: 848
 
Ottowan,

Whew!  That's a relief.  I was getting ready to duck and run.

I was also wondering if the age of the parent tree affects the vigor of the cutting.  I just don't have the time, space, material...or dedication to do any kind of controlled study..but I'm taking alot of notes and photos.  I am recording the date on which I cup each cutting to see if those that root earlierst also grown most virogously and/or fruit earliest.  I'm sure someone else has done this, but it will be fun making my own discoveries until I find a forum thread that reveals all!

C.J.


Subject: Fertilome (upm ) Potting soil Locator Near You Replies: 5
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Diesler,

I called every "dealer" within a 100 mile raadius and none of them have or will special order UPM.  One very kind Agway manager explained that the listing is based on the distributor rather than the dealer.  If the distributor carries ANY Fertilome product, the dealers that they service are automatically listed whether or not they actually stock Fertilome products.  It was a very disappointing experience.  However Leon explained that Pro-Mix is quite similar and that is what I have been using.

C.J.


Subject: Varietal Growth Characteristics Replies: 8
Posted By: jenia Views: 848
 
As the child of a fuzzy-eared scientist, rest assured that I use the term in the most loving (and respectful) way.  It certainly wasn't meant offend.  There was nothing my mother couldn't find worthy of research and analysis.

Having said that, it is very clear from a number of posts that there are those among us who delve in the the subject of figs on a far more scientific level  than many of the rest of us who depend on instinct, oral history, a wild guess, or the phase of the moon.  With all of the scientific and experimental data that has been posted on other elements of fig propagation, I wondered if there was any analysis of rooting or growth vigor by variety, geographic distribution, etc.

My experience so far has only been with varieties reputed to have at least some cold resistance, especially dark ones.  The darkest ones seem to root significantly more slowly for me than the light ones...of which I have significantly fewer.

And then I wondered about growing conditions.  Is it possible that some types of figs root more readily in a specific type of soil and moisture content than others.

C.J.


Subject: Varietal Growth Characteristics Replies: 8
Posted By: jenia Views: 848
 
I am sure this has probably been addressed in another thread somewhere but I haven't found it so far.

Have any of you fuzzy-eared scientist types drawn any conclusions regarding similarities in growth patterns of varieties based on similar characteristics?  I know that isn't very clear so...What has caught my interest is the apparent rooting reluctance of dark, and very cold-hardy varieties such as Marseilles VS Black, the 2 Sal's, etc. versus the apparent more vigorous rooting of less cold-hardy varieties or less dark varieties.

There also seem to be more dark ultra-cold-hardy varieties than white/yellow/green varieties...but that could the the observation of someone who is partial to dark figs...or who is still learning patience.

How about growth vigor?  Do  less cold-hardy varieties grow more quickly than dark and/or cold-hardy varieties.

These questions came to mind as I am sitting gazing out the window at ANOTHER 8" of new snow.  If it weren't for cuttings, I think I would lose my mind.

Many thanks to anyone who responds.

C.J.


Subject: Clear cup shortage? Replies: 22
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,304
 
Here is another source for the 16 and 20 oz. Solo cups as well as a choice of 3 different lids.

The 16 oz. are $49.49 for 1000.
http://www.webstaurantstore.com/solo-straight-wall-16-oz-clear-polypro-plastic-cup-1000-cs/760PX16.html

The 20oz. are $69.00
The lids are expensive. 1000 flat/ $32.99 per 1000
Domed with or without a hole/ $74.00 per 1000


Subject: Salelm White Cuttings Replies: 10
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,040
 
Nelson,

Yes, Salem Dark is also vigorous but I would say it is a full week behind Salem White in development.

C.J.


Subject: Salelm White Cuttings Replies: 10
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,040
 
This is probably no big deal for you highly experienced figheads but this was record time for anything I've rooted.  I bagged these Salem White cuttings form Bass on January 30.  This is what they looked like on February 9.  Yes, 9 days.  Holy mackerel.





Subject: Chatroom Jenia? Replies: 1
Posted By: jenia Views: 564
 
ejp3.  Sorry I missed you.  I have a tendency to log on and walk away from the computer.  Was making dinner and didn't get back on until late.  I'll be in there for a little while now.

C.J.


Subject: Your Definition of Fig Addiction Replies: 4
Posted By: jenia Views: 686
 
For me, the "fig bug" is starting the year 2009 with 6 varieties and ending 2009 with 57...plus another 10 varieties in the past 6 weeks.  Help!

The fig bug has introduced me to one of the friendliest, most generous groups of people I've ever met. (My spouse calls all of you my "imaginary" friends.)

It has made me pray for hot weather, something I have NEVER done in my entire life.

It has made me carefully scan every tree in every yard in every old section of every town I travel to.

It has given me fig dreams at least 3 nights out of every 7. (My favorite was the one about the softball-sized Pastilliere.)

It has made me somehow work the topic of figs into conversations with people I barely know.

It has taught me patience...almost.

It has taught me to count creatively. (Spouse:"How many fig plants DO you have??????)

It has taught me that, if I can get it past the front door, the spouse can't tell the new figs from the old ones.

It has taught me that I can protect my addiction if I can hook everyone else that I know, like my daughters, my neighbors, my co-workers, and the people who deliver my figs. (To the spouse:"But EVERYONE does this.")

NONE of this would have happened if Jon hadn't created this forum and his FABULOUS "Fig Varieties" pages.  What a remarkable resource.

C.J>







Subject: What did you Order or will Order Replies: 38
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,961
 
tmc2009.

Bad news.  The rate of recidivism among fig addicts is 100%.  12 step will just slow you down for a while.  But then it could be worse...and more expensive.

C.J.

Subject: Chatroom Replies: 4
Posted By: jenia Views: 556
 
I'm in the chatroom for a bit.  Anyone had more thoughts on the Fig Summit?

Subject: Comparing Our Plant Replies: 2
Posted By: jenia Views: 504
 
Great idea, Deisler.  I keep reading about the variability of varieties planted in different parts of the country.  I remember seeing one of Herman2's posts that reported the same plant had 2 different flesh colors in 2 different years.  That fascinated (and scared) me.  I have a bunch of trees that should bear for me this year...it think, so I would love to compare.

C.J.


Subject: I'm Steamed this Morning!!!! Replies: 15
Posted By: jenia Views: 920
 
Exactly the point, Nas.  I am dealing with an issue right now where a document was sent via Fedex with a signature requried.  The individual on the receiving end said they didn't receive the package.  Fedex said that package was delivered and that it was signed for.  I requested a copy of the signature.  What I got was "signature on file".  The recipient stated adamantly that they had never signed a signature release and, ultimately, Fedex could not produce the release.  Can't tell you how many times that has happened to me in the past 2 years.

C.J.

Subject: Heavy Pruning and Espaliering... Fig Experts, Please Explain... Replies: 22
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,719
 
The praise should go to Ingevald.  It is he who dug up this wonderful stuff!

 

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