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Subject: Fig - Dalmatie vs Fig - Precoce de Dalmatie Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,143
 
[image] Thanks Feigenbaum!  That puts that question to rest.

I think we create a lot of confusion without intending to when labeling our plants.  Many of the named varieties have European or MIddle Eastern names, and some/many of us aren't familiar with or careful about the subtleties of spelling in foreign languages.  It doesn't seem important at the time, but there are consequences down the road.

C.J>



Subject: Fig - Dalmatie vs Fig - Precoce de Dalmatie Replies: 24
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,143
 
I thought I would add to the confusion.  Last year I purchased a young tree labled "De Damaite".  It has to be a misspelling.  The photo looks just like Dalmatie.  Here is the description from the catalog: "A large green fig with sweet red flesh, it is from Croatia and among the hardiest varieites. The tree lacks vigor in many climates but seems to grow well in the Pacific Northwest. It reportedly sets but drops its breba crop in areas with variable spring temperatures but does set a breba crop in tests at the Mt. Vernon station."

C.J.

Subject: Poultry Incubator Replies: 26
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You can also adapt is using a small Styrofoam cooler.

C.J.

Subject: Poultry Incubator Replies: 26
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,040
 
You CAN use your hovabator for growing cutting in an upright position.  Hovabators are easy to adapt to any number of situations.  Bird breeders have been using them as brooders for everything from cockatiels to African Greys for years.  Many of them take the unit, cut Styrofoam insulation panels to the desired height and the width of each side of the hovbator, fabricate a plexiglass door for the front so that they can observe the bird, duct tape them together, and put the frame between the two parts of the Hovabator.  That Styrofoam panels conserve heat better than many materials.  Since you don't need to check cuttings every hour (although some of us do) You can use Styrofoam for all 4 sides and just set the hovabator lid on the top.

Subject: Storing fig cuttings using a Vacuum food sealer ! Replies: 40
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,571
 
Dennis,  Do you treat or prepare you cutting for vacuum storage other than washing and drying them?

C.J.

Subject: Snowmageddon Replies: 34
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,177
 
I am about 1000' in the NY Catskills and it is still snowing lightly.  We might end up with 6".  We don't get excited about anything under 12"...but we do grumble. 

I'm sorry to hear that our friends along the coast are getting hammered.  Look at it this way.  Snow is good insulation from the wind for in-ground trees...I think.

Spring is coming.

C.J.

Subject: Poultry Incubator Replies: 26
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,040
 
If you can keep the fan from drying things out, it should work well.  I use a temperature controlled heating mat.  It definitely improved my rooting speed and success.

C.J.

Subject: Inquiry - Ebay Seller mntfgs Replies: 4
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I neglected to mention that I received some very nice, large, husky cuttings from mntfgs whom I now know as Tony.

C.J.

Subject: Storing fig cuttings using a Vacuum food sealer ! Replies: 40
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,571
 
This post is a little off topic.

Foodsaver makes an accessory that allows you to vacuum-seal canning jars.  I store cutting that way.  The jars are superior to plastic bags in many ways.  Glass is impermeable and will maintain a vacuum seal for many years.  Plastic is permeable and easily damaged by sharp or pointed edges on the objects (like sticks) that you seal in bags.  Glass jars can be reused almost indefinitely. The down side is that they are bulky.  You have to make sure to get the right attachment.  Canning jars come in wide-mouth and narrow-mouth versions (and at least 10 different shapes and volumes).  Wide-mouth jars are more versatile and require the wide-mouth attachment.

Because of the amount of material required to  seal the plastic bags, the bag gets smaller and smaller each time you use it...and then you throw it away...if it hasn't already been punctured.  However, there is a hack that allows you to use ordinary ziplock bags and heat-seal them.  They are a lot cheaper than the Foodsaver bag material and the freezer bags will maintain a seal fairly well.

I have been using the attachment for about 15 years for leftover seeds.  It is great for extending the refrigerated life of things like dairy products (like that half-used container of sour cream in the back of the refrigerator) salad greens and herbs.  I grind my own grains, so I buy in bulk and store the whole grain in half-gallon jars.  When vacuum-sealed in jars, things like WHOLE grains, dried beans, pasta, even chocolate will remain fresh for several years without refrigeration, if that is your goal. Powdery substances like flour or finely ground spices are NOT a good candidate for sealing in jars.  Because of the way the unit operates, particles are drawn out between the jar and the lid, leaving a fine residue on the rim of the jar.  As a result, the seal fails in a fairly short time.

Don't be sucked in by the plastic storage containers offered by the manufacturer.  They eventually develop cracks and won't hold a seal...and they are expensive for what they are.

If you don't yet have a vacuum-sealing unit and want to purchase one, I strongly recommend that you buy a unit that has an accessory hose, without it, you can't use the jar attachment and are losing a valuable storage alternative.  It is also important that you purchase replacement seals and hose at the same time.  They will be unavailable once the unit is discontinued and Foodsaver won't offer tech support.  Planned obsolescence.  Foodsaver is now owned by Jarden which also owns Ball, Kerr and Bernarden canning jars.
 
The good news is that although the sealing element usually fails in 1-2 years, the vacuuming function usually works for a long time.  I've tried several brands of sealers.  All of them fail.  From my experience, Foodsaver is less bad than the others.

If you don't want to invest in a Foodsaver and only want to seal a few things, there is a very recent product that I have been testing for 3 months. It is called ThriftyVac. 
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GX26U8K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It is nothing more than a canning jar lid with a valve in it.  Interestingly enough, it works with some commercial food jars and a couple of styles of Weck (German) canning jars.  So far, it has maintained a seal for 3 months.

There are dozens, maybe hundreds of hacks for vacuuming-sealing available, some better than others.  You can turn a bicycle pump or brake bleeder into a vacuum pump and use the jar sealer attachment.  With a little adaptation, you can reuse pickle and other types of food jars as long as they have a "soft-seal" lid.

End of commercial.

C.J.

Subject: Inquiry - Ebay Seller mntfgs Replies: 4
Posted By: jenia Views: 502
 
Thanks for the responses.  That helps a lot.  It is good to know who is who. I copied the earlier list for future reference.

C.J.

Subject: Inquiry - Ebay Seller mntfgs Replies: 4
Posted By: jenia Views: 502
 
I do not suspect fraud.  I would just like to know if anyone on the forum is familiar with or belongs to this Ebay ID.

Thanks.

C.J.

Subject: Suspected eBay scammers with F4F ties Replies: 276
Posted By: jenia Views: 18,205
 
Harvey, I went back read the edited version of post #1.  It's great.  The only thing I would add is mention of the IDs that are linked to the same Paypal account. 

C.J.

Subject: Suspected eBay scammers with F4F ties Replies: 276
Posted By: jenia Views: 18,205
 
Boy, am glad I read this thread form start to finish.  What a mindblower.

For the last week or so, I have been drooling over ebay listings for some very desirable fig cuttings from people that I have never heard of.  There were a couple of sellers that I contacted and identified as bona fide, participating F4F members.  ALL of the others were ebay sellers that  this thread has identified as being linked to the same account  The listings themselves sent up warning signals, so I passed.  (If you are an experienced Ebay fig buyer, you look for certain things.)  I think it would be very helpful to start a new thread with a heading something like "Ebay sellers with multiple identities" or something of that sort. Barring that, is it possible to place the relevant conclusions at the beginning of the thread????   Not everyone is going to read 3 pages of this thread to get to the punch line.

C.J.

Subject: OT: Living on one dollar a day Replies: 9
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Jesse, was Pat Manley with you on your trip?  I know he was heavily involved with Masons on a Mission for several years.  I "know" him from the Brick Oven forum. Don't you live up in his neck of the woods?

For those of you who are unfamiliar with "Masons on a Mission", it is a group of STONE masons, not the Mason organization.  They do incredible work that benefits local health, economy and the environment, and they do it on their own dime.  It takes "econtourism" to a different level.

C.J. 

Subject: Best Brebas for the Northeast (and other cold climates)? Replies: 33
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I'll second Bob's recommendation for Brooklyn White.  (Mine was part of last year's winter kill).  Every year for 4 years it would start pushing out brebas before I could get it out of winter storage.  Although it was pretty young, the fruit was large and tasty.  If anyone has Brooklyn White cuttings for sale, please PM me.

C.J.

Subject: Bad experienece with member "fespo" Replies: 22
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,125
 
Harvey,

It looks like fespo has deleted his/her account.  I tried clicking the link in your post and doing a member search.  Nada.  Do you recall where he/she resides?

Subject: iGive to support F4F Foundation Replies: 4
Posted By: jenia Views: 532
 
The "smile" reminder isn't foolproof.  It failed to remind me a couple of times, when I first started using it last year.  I just put a button on my Firefox menu bar.  Easier, no-fail.

I really hope this project succeeds, and commend everyone working on it.

C.J.

Subject: iGive to support F4F Foundation Replies: 4
Posted By: jenia Views: 532
 
Sue, thanks for the info.  I was unaware of the iGive option.  I signed up for the Amazon (I tithe on Amazon) donation option last year.  It is seamless...as long as you remember to go to smile.amazon.com .

C.J.

Subject: Thank you mnedelcu (Marius) Replies: 9
Posted By: jenia Views: 646
 
Oops.  That was supposed to be "Marius" not "Maru". 

Subject: Thank you mnedelcu (Marius) Replies: 9
Posted By: jenia Views: 646
 
Maru is terrific and a wealth of knowledge.  I love  his cuttings.  I have been buying cuttings from Marius for a few years now and they are consistently VERY high quality, ship quickly and have all been viable (no dry DOAs).

Subject: 5th annual Northeast fig gathering Replies: 53
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,594
 
Ruuting,
If you are going to hit the New York State Thruway(I-87 ) at any point, you could leave your car and I could take you from there to Bass's and back.  It may take a couple of hours off of your drive.  If it helps, PM me.  Otherwise, see you there.

C.J.

Subject: Fig Fiesta 2014 Replies: 52
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Wow.  How about doing it as a webinar??????

Subject: Hydroponic result Replies: 16
Posted By: jenia Views: 804
 
Is there a "Dummy's Guide to Hydroponics"?  I have to try this.  It would certainly take care of the fungus gnat problem.

C.J.

Subject: "The Big Kill"....Winter of 2013 - 2014 Replies: 131
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Frank,

We had frost in the Catskills this morning.  If it makes you feel any better, I have been in the same boat more than once (including this winter), either from fungus gnats and mold, well-meaning plant sitters, weather or critters. 

I have a relative who is a Kansas farmer.  He once told me that he had spent half of his life praying for rain and the other half of his life praying that it wouldn't rain.  No matter how large or small the scale, agriculture is nothing but legalized gambling...but we keep trying.  (Look up Einstein's definition of insanity.)

C.J.

Subject: "The Big Kill"....Winter of 2013 - 2014 Replies: 131
Posted By: jenia Views: 6,659
 
Frank,

Check you PM.

C.J.

Subject: Natalina buried in soil for winter 2014 zone 4 (Update) Replies: 14
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Joe, it looks like you buried it near the foundation of a building.  Is that correct?  South-facing?  How deep does your soil go?

C.J.

Subject: Winter loss report - Central NY state Replies: 8
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...and the winter devastation continues.  We had frost this morning in the NY Catskills.  When I went to bed, the NOAA forecast was that it would only go down to 44.  Oh, well.

C.J.

Subject: Thank you Driveway Farmer!!! Replies: 26
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,462
 
I have to agree with everyone else.  This winter was a complete disaster for my fig collection.  Kerry and Fatandsassytexan really helped getting me back on my feet...or roots.  I received wonderful cuttings from Kerry's Ebay auctions, not to mention more-than-generous extras.

C.J.

Subject: Rafed In Hospital Replies: 105
Posted By: jenia Views: 5,216
 

Yikes!  I have been off the forum for a while so I was stunned to read what happened to you!  I hope you nailed the little #@$%&*d!

 

Rest and get well.

 

C.J.


Subject: Rooting Poll Replies: 35
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,077
 

#2 - to get roots started, then #3

 

C.J.


Subject: Dyeing with fig leaves Replies: 2
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,472
 

Interesting find.  I am surprised that it produces a yellow dye.  So many plants leaves produce a rather boring "Army green".  I left a post asking how color-fast the dye is.

 

C.J.


Subject: fig seller Joe Morle - reliable? Replies: 14
Posted By: jenia Views: 2,178
 

I've ordered from him 3 times.  Some of the most incredible packing I've seen.  Everything I have gotten from him (6 trees to date) has been excellent quality and the fruit on each tree is quite different. (translated, that means that they aren't all brown turkey or celeste).  Mine are still young, so the jury is out on the fruit quality.  Dan_la swears by the White Triana.  Hope to draw some conclusions this season.

 

C.J.


Subject: Couple Memories From Last Season 2011 Replies: 36
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,774
 

Martin,

 

It looks like Rafed forgot his doggie biscuits that time!

 

Posting fig pictures like that at this time of year is positively inhumane!  They made me drool so badly that I thought I was going to short out my laptop.

 

C.J.


Subject: Why do you like figs? Replies: 26
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,725
 

My initiation was dumb luck.

 

I grew up eating Fig Newtons and never identified figs with anything else.  When I was in my  early forties...last year<chortle>...I was going over the desert menu in a NYC restaurant that featured mediterranean cuisine.  It offered fresh figs with mascarpone and marsalsa. Normally, I would have gone for something more decadent-sounding, but i had had a heavy meal and didn't have much room left.  Since I had never tasted a fresh fig, I ordered the dish with some skepticism.

 

The plate arrived with 4 dark figs that were "butterflied" (split into quarters and still attached at the stem) with a dollop of marscapone in the center of each, drizzled with Marsala, and garnished with fresh mint.  Simple, elegant, DIVINE.  I was immediately and hopelessly hooked and sought out fresh figs everywhere after that with little success.

 

They say that it was really a pomegranate that Eve ate in the Garden of Eden.  Really!!????  I am positive that it was a fig.  I can't say that a pomegranate is sinful, but a fig certainly is!

 

I immediately began researching fig culture, what little of it was availalbe, and finally found that Miller Nursey in the Finger Lakes district of New York offered Brown Turkey and Celeste (the same one that Herman ditched).  I knew nothing about growing anything in pots so  I dumped a couple of bags of TOPSOIL into a couple of pots and stuck the fig trees into them.  The soil turned into concrete and it took 3 years to get my first 12 figs.  Then I killed both trees that winter.

 

I gave up for a few years, but the thought of growing my own fresh figs haunted me after my very brief and modest success.

 

Why do I like them?  They are sweet, flavorful, luscious and probably the easiest fruit tree in the world to grow.


Subject: Fig 4 Fun fig cuttings Replies: 95
Posted By: jenia Views: 9,026
 

Easiest way to refresh your browser in Internet Explorer and Firefox is <CTRL + R>  .  I don't know about the other browsers.

 

C.J.


Subject: Fig 4 Fun fig cuttings Replies: 95
Posted By: jenia Views: 9,026
 

71GTO, Check your email.

 

C.J.


Subject: Fig 4 Fun fig cuttings Replies: 95
Posted By: jenia Views: 9,026
 

Christy,

 

Just sent you email.

 

C.J.


Subject: Fig 4 Fun fig cuttings Replies: 95
Posted By: jenia Views: 9,026
 

If you got here http://encantofarms.com/Available_Cuttings_2012.html and scroll to the bottom of the page, you should see a link that says "Printable List".  If you click on that list, you should get a prompt that asks you to open or download.


Subject: Fig 4 Fun fig cuttings Replies: 95
Posted By: jenia Views: 9,026
 

When you click on the "Printable List" link, you should get a prompt to download the file.  It will then open as a Word document.

 

C.J.


Subject: Fig 4 Fun fig cuttings Replies: 95
Posted By: jenia Views: 9,026
 

The problem may be what you are expecting to see.  Unlike previous years, the list is not actually visible on the "Availability" page.  You have to click on the "PRINTABLE LIST" link.  That downloads a Word document with the list.

 

C.J.


Subject: 2nd Fig growers meeting Replies: 30
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,874
 
Count me in! 

I can carry up to 3 people if anyone in the northland wants to rendezvous with me on the New York State Thruway.

C.J.

Subject: Keeping fig records -what to keep? Replies: 25
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,927
 
Cathy,

The first thing I do when I get a new variety is ask my source where THEY got it since there are diferent figs with the same name.  It makes a difference down the line when someone else asks you or a cutting.  You can tell them what they are getting.  Atreano is one example.  There is an Atreano from Bellclaire and an Atreano from Rolling River.( There are probably others as well.) They are apparently quite different.  "Sal's" is one of the best exmamples.  There is an enormously long thread that covers the origin of and distinction between Sal's-Gene's Strain and Sal's BC/Sal's Corleone, etc.

I like to keep a record of what time of year the plant sets fruit, when it ripens...or not..., how much it bears, and flavor (or lack thereof).  I also keep a separate general file on each variety with its country (or neighborhood) of origin and every scrap o information I can ind on F4F forum, including what growing conditions it likes or hates, who all recommends it and pans it, and why.  It is really interesting how opinions change ater a couple of years.

I am sure that the more serious figheads on the forum will have more advice for you.

C.J.

Subject: Seeking Turkish figs Replies: 28
Posted By: jenia Views: 4,822
 
Holy, mackerel.  That is a LOT of information.  This is going to keep forum members busy for weeks!  Thank you!

C.J.

Subject: More complex than we think? Replies: 4
Posted By: jenia Views: 893
 
Funny you should mention this.  I dragged most of my fig trees into storage 2-3 weeks ago when the nighttime temps hit the 20's.  A couple trees had  lost their leaves but still had green figs that i ddin't have time to pull off.  When I went into the storage room to check them a couple of days ago, I noticed that some of the figs that remained were drooping, so I tried them.  They were ripe in a feeble sort of way.


And then there is the Atreano in the greenhouse.  I has ONE fig that has been the same size, color and rock-hard density for over 3 months!

C.J.

Subject: Does anybody use a hoop house? Replies: 33
Posted By: jenia Views: 3,525
 
Northeastnewbie,

That is a great tip.  The best of both worlds!

Does anyone have problems with critters chewing through the plastic on you hoop house?

C.J.

Subject: Does anybody use a hoop house? Replies: 33
Posted By: jenia Views: 3,525
 
Northern Greenhouse Supply has some interesting ideas for hoophouse construction.  They recommend rebar rather than PVC if you live in snow country.  http://www.northerngreenhouse.com/ideas/how_to/rebar.htm
I'm going to give it a try next year.

I appreciated the pictures of the end construction.  Thanks for posting the link.  That eliminated a lot of questions.

I have an 8 x 12 greenhouse here in zone 5b and ate a VdB yesterday.  It wasn't fabulous, but it was a ripe fig.  I am hoping to have a couple more on Thanksgiving.  Then I'll let everything go dormant.

C.J.

Subject: Happy Ending Replies: 26
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,386
 
Paully, let us know when you are going to serve up beer for the slugs in those 180 pots.   I'll be over to "help".   Would you mind making it Samuel Adams?

C.J.

Subject: Happy Ending Replies: 26
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,386
 
There are several inexpensive plug-in thermostats available that will turn a heating unit on and off at specific temperatures.  Does anyone have a particular recommendation for type or brand?   I am in the process of constructing a holding room in our unused barn (the basement if full) and plan to use one of these.  Here a couple of sources I am looking at:

http://www.littlegreenhouse.com/accessory/controls.shtml

http://www.amazon.com/Farm-Innovators-TC-3-Thermostatically-Controlled/dp/B0006U2HD2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1288359668&sr=1-1

C.J.

Subject: A Visit with Bass Replies: 8
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,042
 
I will start by admitting that I am insanely jealous of Bass's little garden of Eden.

While I was there I was fed Jujubees, Passion Fruit, Paw Paw and figs.  I had no room for the Pomegranate.  My jaw dropped at that banana GROVE, complete with flowering banana trees, ripening persimmons and I can't remember what else.  There was just too much to remember.  There was something different everywhere I looked.

I knew there would be temptation, so I reserved 4 specific figs BEFORE I went down in order to keep myself from going wild.  Rrrrriiiiiiight.  I left with 1 pomegranate plant and <cough> fig plants.  And I didn't get everything that I want...and I think I want bananas. <groan>  There are some great-sounding figs from Monserrat Pons that I covet, particularly after taking a peek at the book that Bass has from Monserrat.

Since I made the trip in stealth mode, the plants are still in the car and I am going to have to trot them into the house over the course of the day.  Thank goodness for tinted car windows.

C.J.

Subject: Beware Fungus Gnats! Replies: 10
Posted By: jenia Views: 1,973
 
Eve,

I am unfamiliar with moquito dunk. Do you also get that at Home Depot?  How do you "grind" it?

C.J.

 

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