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Subject: First Harvest Verte Pics & Review Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 934
 
On the bright side, I know for a fact, Martin didn't send this to me!!  LOL!

Subject: First Harvest Verte Pics & Review Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 934
 
greenfig, I am not sure.  I have this spreadsheet that I could not bear to look at until today when Kerry told me he did not send me Verte.  So, I had to revisit all the figs I lost in the "Mother of all Fungus Gnat infestations,"  and I got the fig from Ruben (not sure screen name), but it was called Strawberry Verte.  Not sure if it was from Jon originally, but I got it from Ruben... I should know his screen name, but I don't remember.   I do research and maybe I just put that UC Davis number on there.  Not sure.  Long time and a lot of pain ago.

There will be a day when I will face my losses, and put those I lost again, on my wish list.  Very sad to lose so many living plants.

On top of this I feel bad that I didn't give Ruben credit for this fig.........

I'll be posting more pics next year when it's a little bigger and better, but now my mission is to find Ruben!

Suzi

Subject: First Harvest Verte Pics & Review Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 934
 
Sorry Kerry.  Just looked at my spreadsheet.  I got it from Ruben.  And it is Strawberry Verte AKA UCR143-36.  He sent me a live plant.  It was a long time ago, and I don't know his screen name. 

I was so sure I got it from you.  During our move, I lost track of many members.  Time to get back on track.

Thanks for responding.  Maybe you need this fig.  It's pretty cold hardy.  Never went dormant here last year.

Suzi

Subject: Prepping for Winter Shipping Question Replies: 2
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 335
 
Thank you Frank!

I will explain to them how to plant bare root.  I will do as you say.  Cheap is better, and the coconut coir should work just fine.  Funny Hardy Chicago came as cuttings from the NE to me, and now part of it is going back!  One of the family would have to be a pot person due to lack of space, but the younger ones have a farm with lots of room.  I'll send detailed instructions to whoever is the recipient!

Thanks!

Suzi

Subject: Sultane - Breba Replies: 6
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 660
 
I think there should be a rule that if someone posts photos of a beautiful fig, a taste profile must accompany it.  Should include, crunch level, sweetness level, richness level, juiciness level, skin thick or thin, and flavor resemblance to berry, melon, squash, cabernet... 

Suzi

Subject: Prepping for Winter Shipping Question Replies: 2
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 335
 
So now that I know my lost tag fig is indeed Hardy Chicago, I wish to send it to one of our Chicago relatives for Christmas.  I already have one in ground and a second lost tag I strongly suspect is another HC.

Do I bare root it when dormant, or send it dirt and all?  They know it is coming.  They are currently fighting over it!  LOL!

Suzi

Subject: Air-Pot experiment... Replies: 17
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 640
 
Wow!  Lots of work.  I just buy those Sun Leaves grow bags with the holes in them.  Cheap and easy!  Sometimes I put more holes in.  Oh, and they encourage masses of roots with no circling.  They only last a year, but you should repot anyway........

Suzi

Subject: Wish list just got smaller! Replies: 4
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 311
 
Just had my first LSU gold today.  Tree in ground one year.  First year it struggled.  They don't like being planted mid summer when it's HOT!  This year, it's showing some muscle.  It was yellow, brownish inside, and figgy nutty in flavor.

Congrats on your figs and good luck with them!

Suzi

Subject: First Harvest Verte Pics & Review Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 934
 
I'll PM Driveway Farmer to see if he can pop in here and give some history.  He may not even remember.  It was a while ago.  I'll give it a whirl.

Suzi

Subject: First Harvest Verte Pics & Review Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 934
 
I think it's pretty much standard that the first crop isn't the best.  After a few years is when the real flavor kicks in.

Gene and Mike, I'm pretty sure this is the same as Green Ischia / Strawberry Verte.  When I bought it, Driveway Farmer had it labeled simply Verte. 

It is planted where it is to provide shade to our dining room on the west of the house.  I have set goals for it.  I stand in the same place daily and watch it grow.  It's new goal is another foot, which I have no doubt it will hit prior to September.

I'll do an update on flavor next year and the next and the next, hoping for improvement.  It's a good fig, but not in the top ten...YET!  It's a baby.

For those in cooler areas, this might be a good one.  Mine never went dormant last winter when all the rest did.

Suzi

Subject: First Harvest Verte Pics & Review Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 934
 
I purchased this as a tree from Driveway Farmer a couple years ago.  It didn't produce figs until it went in-ground here.  It was planted last fall, and took off this spring.  Aggressive grower.

I ate a ripened fig a month ago.  It was yellow in color.  I was waiting for yellow to appear, but it didn't.  I guess this is a green fig.  I tested a few, and they dropped in my hand.

Here we go  The little guy on the right was lying on the ground.  Most are shriveled, but still green.

Verte.July14.3.jpg

The one center was soft, but not shriveled.  I opened them up.  Sorry for the blur:

Verte.July14.2.jpg 

Taste profile:  This is year one, so the flavor will improve for sure.  I found the non-shriveled center fig to taste more like a strawberry.  The more the shrivel, the richer the flavor.  You get a berry flavor, but not as jammy as VdB. 

Obviously we tasted a few prior to this shot:

Verte.July14.jpg   
I liked the one in the center the best.  I'll be out there to pick prior to shrivel.

Suzi


Subject: San Donato Di Ninea Replies: 22
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,328
 
SOLD!!

Subject: Thibodeaux 7-27-14 Updated Replies: 16
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 552
 
Wow!  That is a huge fig!  Is the tree big too?

Suzi

Subject: San Donato Di Ninea Replies: 22
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,328
 
Beautiful tree.  Beautiful figs!  So, describe the delicious flavor. 

Wonder why it's not giving you success on air layers.  I always thought that was 100%.  Guess not.

Suzi

Subject: Feng Chang Huang Replies: 8
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 877
 
Huge!  Congratulations!  Thanks for sharing!

Suzi

Subject: Pruning and Topping Replies: 7
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 371
 
Yes, just pinch the tips, you don't need to cut them.  Now is a good time.  This will encourage more figs and more branches.

Good luck to you!

Suzi

Subject: Lost Tag. I THINK this is Hardy Chicago? Replies: 6
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 334
 
Yes Bobby, but so are many other varieties.  Black Mission is soft in comparison.  Flanders and Alma feel the same. 

BtW, your little LSU Scott's Black is doing great in full sun, and just a baby, but she has hardened off already.  Toughie!  Actually her sunny moments span from 9 AM to 3 PM.  She gets shade from other trees outside of that.

Suzi

Subject: Pool Party with the Alma Sisters Replies: 35
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 869
 
I finally got an Alma!  It's got figs, but they aren't ripe yet.  So, are you serving them plain, or doing something fancy with them?

Oh, and while we are on the subject, since I've never tasted one, are they rich?  Sweet?  Berry?  Nutty?  How would you describe the flavor?

Enjoy the party!!

Suzi


Subject: First Fig of the season from my plants! Replies: 17
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 616
 
Here is what Jon's varietal info says

"MALTA BLACK
DESCRIPTION
Medium, black dark-red pulp. Sweet. Two crops. DiPaola [of Belleclare Nursery] says it is a grandparent of Celeste. (006d) Belleclare No. 35 (910)

Suzi

Subject: New Fig fruitition Replies: 10
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 512
 
Welcome from Southern California.  Any fig can make wine as long as you add sugar, but you would need a high brix fig for pure fig wine.  We have a wine grape vineyard, and I've been looking for a fig so sweet, but it's not easy, and unfortunately a sweet fig one place will not be as sweet in another.  Climate and conditions make a huge difference.

I'd be more inclined to infuse some Everclear with purple figs to get color and flavor, and maybe use candied violets in the simple syrup................  One day.

Suzi

Subject: New to group Replies: 33
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 708
 
Welcome from Southern California!

You asked about figs known by other names.  If you go to Jon's site and check varietals, he usually says other names by which a variety is known.

Suzi

Subject: Resin 15.5"x9.21" Barrel for sale at Costco.com Replies: 7
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 605
 
costco.com is great, and shipping is free!  If I needed any pots, I'd take advantage, but the prior owner here was a landscaper and married a nursery owner, so they left a lot of pots here.  Those Costco ones are light-weight, so nice feature!  Great tip for those looking for pots.

Suzi

Subject: A near-by fig orchard Replies: 17
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 731
 
Very nice report!  I wish we had a fig orchard here, and I even called the farmer's market, but none.  I already knew I'm the only fig person in this area, but that call confirmed it.  There are NO fig trees here other than mine.  Well one!  In somebody's back yard, and it's probably a BT.  I think for figs, you need to have a population of Greeks and Italians, but this here is Red Neck Country, and the Italians are chain restaurants and we don't even have a Greek restaurant.  Sigh.............

I bet he will trade you!  You should bring him a couple really cool varieties, or just a taste of a ripe fig from one, and promise him cuttings.

Jealous!

Suzi

Subject: Pic Latarrula/Ital Honey - 25th July 2014 In PNW Replies: 4
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 430
 
Wow!  Prolific tree!  Years ago, I bought Italian Honey from Gurneys online.  Turns out it was VDB instead.  Guess I should have pursued that variety harder, but you and your wife don't like it?  Hmmmmmmmm 

Suzi

Subject: --- California Black Mission Replies: 6
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 379
 
beautiful  Mine is still a baby, but next year will be it's time to shine.

Suzi

Subject: Rooting in summer. Replies: 6
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 446
 
I think if you obtain them locally, you have a chance.  But if you order on Ebay or from someone across the country, mail carrier's trucks are HOT, and depending on shipping, your cuttings could be toasting in a truck for days!  My experience with summer cuttings has not been good.  All have arrived slimy and rotting.  I prefer dormant. 
Suzi

Subject: Longue D'Aout Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,097
 
Thanks for sharing your beautiful photos and flavor profile.  My Longue D'Aout cuttings were part of the mother of all fungus gnat attacks last year, so that one is missing from my collection.  I don't have any that big, but Flanders is showing signs of ripening and it's pretty big!  I'll post photos and review soon on that one.

Suzi

Subject: Gorgonzola Stuffed O'Rourke Replies: 8
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 296
 
Yum!  One thing we always have here is Rosemary!  Soon, there will be enough figs for beautiful appetizers like you made!  Looking forward to the days of plenty of figs!  You could also press a nut half into the cheese for added flavor and crunch... Pecan, maybe?

Thanks for the tease!

Suzi

Subject: Photographs Replies: 3
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 294
 
When you click reply, follow along the top of the reply window.  You will see fonts, and all that stuff.  There is some colored icons.  Choose the green one that kinda looks like a tree on grass.  It will let you browse for your photo.  Be sure your photos are sized small, like 640 x 480 pixels.  It won't allow huge photos.

Suzi

Subject: YEE HAW...My first ever Fig ! Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 703
 
Beautiful! 

It is really hard to share.  I was lucky and got two ripe ones this morning, and JD was lucky to get 1/2!

Suzi

Subject: Lost Tag. I THINK this is Hardy Chicago? Replies: 6
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 334
 
OK, I will assume that HC is it's variety.  I'll make a tag for it, and let it be so named!

Thanks!

Suzi

Subject: Mary Lane Seedless Pics & Review Replies: 8
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 595
 
JD just woke up, and I had him try the half I left for him.  He who does not like figs, liked this one!  He agreed there are seeds, but small ones.  I think this is a keeper here in Southern California.  Not so sure how it would do elsewhere.

Suzi

Subject: One CRAZY story--for the love of figs! Replies: 57
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,617
 
That is a wild and crazy story!  Love it!  Thanks for posting!!

Suzi

Subject: Lost Tag. I THINK this is Hardy Chicago? Replies: 6
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 334
 
Here is a better photo of the leaf.  I HATE losing tags.  This is a common fig, not an unknown.  It drives me nuts not knowing!

Unkown1a.jpg 

Suzi


Subject: Mary Lane Seedless Pics & Review Replies: 8
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 595
 
I was saving one for JD, but there are more on the tree, so I took a spoon to the pulp just now, and the crunch is from tiny seeds.  After I ate the pulp, I ate the rest.  The skin is quite thin, and I'm sticking to my lightly sweet, juicy melon flavor profile.  I actually LIKE this fig! 

Here is a photo of the reason the birds have not touched it.  Snake is on the ledge.

SnakeProtection.jpg 

I know the tree looks scruffy, but we've had a couple storms roll through here the last couple weeks, and all the figs got beat up pretty bad.  She is very prolific, as you can see.  Next year she'll be in ground and pruned for branching.

Suzi


Subject: Mary Lane Seedless Pics & Review Replies: 8
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 595
 
Over a couple weeks, I noticed Mary Lane Seedless begining to ripen.  She is still in a pot, and in partial shade getting used to her new home.  We got her in April.

I put a scary rubber snake near her to scare the birds away.  It seems to have worked.

I noticed a few smaller figs had fallen into the dirt in her pot, so today was the day:

Here are her ripe figs after I picked them:

MaryLaneSeedlessFigs1.jpg 

And here they are cut:

MaryLaneSeedlessFigs2.jpg 

The flavor was light, not rich.  They are faintly sweet.  Maybe a light melon flavor.  There is a crunch, so seedless can't be right.  I'll see if the ones that fell into her pot eventually grow.  You never know.

Suzi


Subject: Lost Tag. I THINK this is Hardy Chicago? Replies: 6
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 334
 
During our move, some tags got lost.  I waited for this one to fruit to ask for an ID.  The fruit is soft, but not ready to pick yet.  I try daily...

Hardy Chicago or something else?

Unkown1.jpg 

Thanks!

Suzi


Subject: My special figgy ripened yesterday... Replies: 51
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,073
 
Adorable!  So sweet!  Congratulations to you and your lovely wife!  Start saving your money!  Girls cost about $100 per day, on average....... 

Suzi

Edit:  in their teens. 

Subject: Hot Water Treatment to prevent spread of FMV Replies: 11
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 744
 
I've mentioned this before but I started a Panachee from UC Davis (they all come with FMV) in ground, and it survived for a while with one leaf.  Finally, I potted it.  I didn't think about the pot getting hot in the 115 degree desert sun.  After cries for help here, Jon instructed me to flood the pot with water 3 times.  Move it in the shade, and douse it with Miracle grow.  That tree was FMV cured.  I fried it's roots unintentionally.  It couldn't survive being hit with overspray from wrought iron spray, and died, but heat treatments will irradicate FMV.  In this climate, FMV doesn't do much except make the leaves look a little splotchy, but the fruit is fine (IF the birds don't get the fruit).

I wonder how much peroxide you would have to put on trees in ground.  The majority of mine are in ground and their roots go deep.

Suzi

Subject: What is your opinion??? Replies: 10
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 579
 
A shot with it cut open on it's leaf would help with ID.

Suzi

Subject: Progress Rooting UC Davis 2014 Order Replies: 11
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 729
 
Paul, we are mostly 100% decomposed granite (30 min north of Temecula) and it does drain well.  These cuttings are under a citrus tree which is on a drip system (every other day deep water), and the walking onions also get a small sprinkle.  If it's especially hot, I walk over there and give them all an extra sprinkle with the hose.  I am starting some succulent ground cover elsewhere, and they need water until established,so I just drag the spray hose over there by the buried cuttings for an extra shot of water.  The ground gets damp, but by the end of the day, it's pretty dry.  It's never so wet that it puddles.  The ground is loose and easy to scratch a small trench in which to lay the cuttings down.  It might be richer than other parts of our property due to the fertilizer given to the citrus.

I'm not sure what walking onions need nutrient wise, but I got the starts on Ebay this spring, and they took off well.  One has developed the little bulbs, bent over and has now rooted.  We use them a lot in salads.  Simple green onions.  The figs don't mind living with them at all.

One of my baby figs grown this way came from Bobby.  He sent me a few dormant cuttings, and when it became obvious they weren't going to root in the house in sphagnum moss, I troughed the cutting in ground in full sun close to the dripper for a Moringa tree seed, and forgot about it.  I actually planted 5 cuttings (full sun), but only one grew.  It popped up this spring and sort of struggled out there in the sun with one leaf.  Then it got two and dropped the first one.  It's tiny trunk is hard, and now it has 3 nice bright green leaves.  It has hardened off and seems really happy now.  That one is LSU Scott's Black.  I now only start dormant cuttings in partial shade.  Mortality rate seems high for those in full sun.  Baby LSU Scott's Black even gets some afternoon shade from the edible Moringa Olieferra Tree that has grown 8' tall from a seed in less than a year, and that afternoon shade could be the reason it is now thriving.

I agree with Andreas on the green cuttings.  I've never tried it, but I doubt it would work.  They need to be dormant for this method.  Asleep in the cold ground, and when the ground begins to warm, they begin to warm up, send roots down and shoots up to the light.  Green would be like being buried alive. 

Suzi

Subject: Here's What Happens When You Wait One Day Too Long To Pick A Fig Replies: 14
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 668
 
I wish I had saved my expensive organza bag that got completely bitten through along with the fig.  Not a fan of the organza bags.  YOU can have em!  I find the plastic snap berry containers much more efficient.

Suzi

Subject: Progress Rooting UC Davis 2014 Order Replies: 11
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 729
 
Tony V, you do not live in a Mediterranean climate, so this "Old Greek" method would not work for you.  Prior to giving in to the old ones, depending on the length of cuttings and amount of nodes, I'd cut them in half if I could, to better the odds, and I would try more than one method.  My biggest nemesis was not getting them to root.  They pretty much do that if the conditions are right, but I lost a ton (like a full room of rooted and growing baby figs) to fungus gnats. 

Now that I do it all outside, I no longer fear those creatures.

Good luck to you!

Suzi

Subject: Progress Rooting UC Davis 2014 Order Replies: 11
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 729
 
Kelby, I have only used 5-7" long cuttings.  But when you receive cuttings, some are thicker than others, and some have growth tips where others are just slices.  Funny thing is, when they are buried, I don't know which grew and which didn't.  Some do, but not all.  And some take much longer than others.

All I know is when they actually show leaves, I've only had one dry up, and I think it was because it was one of my first, and it was in full sun.  Lessons learned.

Suzi

Subject: Progress Rooting UC Davis 2014 Order Replies: 11
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 729
 
As you all know, I have given up on the Spagnum moss/ perlite/ paper towel or any other artificial form of rooting in favor of the ways of the Old Greeks.  I can do this because I actually live in a Mediterranean climate, and too many fungus gnats under artificial rooting conditions, made me re-think things.  This way would not work for many members here because of the climates in which they live.

What is the way of the old Greeks?  Pretty simple.  In warm dry weather, find a place under a tree in partial shade, and make sure the soil is semi damp now and then.  Put an ID stake in the ground, and arrange cuttings lying horizontally in a 1-2" deep trench in a spoke around the stake.  Cover lightly.  Walk away.  Wait.  Watch, but not every day... that will ruin everything.

One day a fig leaf will pop from the earth, and surprise you.  And then another.  And then more, but never all at once and always two or nine weeks between.  Patience is best with this method.

Does it always work?  Nope!  Does it usually work?  Yep!  I have never had a problem with fungus gnats this way, but about 6 weeks ago two Native de Argentile popped up close to my walking onions.  A few days later, my walking onions were trampled, and the Native de Argentile were gone.  OMG!  What got them?  Probably a rabbit or a vole.  They hate those green onions, but don't mind walking on them to get to what they want. 

I watched the patch, and two Tena popped up.  They immediately were surrounded with a chicken wire cage and all is well with them.  THEN a couple weeks later, two Verdal Longue popped up.  They are also surrounded with a chicken wire cage.  Today, two very vigorous Native de Argentile showed up in the same place they were pruned by the rabbit, but they are really aggressively growing with two trunks each instead of one, and they now also are protected by a chicken wire cage.  I guess a little rabbit pruning just makes these cuttings more determined.

The disadvantage to this method is that there may be leaves, but no way of knowing if there are roots.  Left alone, most of mine eventually push the growth showing they are rooted.  Another disadvantage is you don't know if there is anything happening under the earth.  You just must wait and be surprised.  I've got a few more varieties down in the partial shade patch.  I'm just waiting.  Experience has taught me, it can take 3-6 months before a fig will grow, and sometimes it is just the nature of it's variety.

I will leave these alone until they go dormant, then I'll dig them up, and let them grow for a year in pots to get nice and established.  I've got 6 in big pots and they will go in ground this winter.  These can take their places.

I wouldn't try this if your climate is really wet in summer.  Your cuttings will rot.  If your summers are cool, this might not work either.  The summer heat wakes them up.

Now my big job is to find out specifics on the varieties I now have growing.  Let the research begin!  If you have input on Verdal Longue, Native de Argentile or Tena, I'd love to hear anything or see photos.  I ordered Tena because a long time ago a member here said it's her favorite.  A very refreshing fig on a hot summer day.  I'm thinking it may be a little watery, and not as rich and sweet as some.  Sort of like a watermelon?

Suzi

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux from driveway farmer pics Replies: 14
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 878
 
Well, didn't get mine from Driveway farmer, actually not sure how it came to me, but it struggles.  Maybe it loves the East Coast.  I have it planted here on the West coast in Mediterranean conditions, but it's not my fav.

Suz

Subject: Building a Collection: Advice on Green Figs (with red interiors) Replies: 8
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 695
 
Verte is very prolific and an aggressive grower.  Delicious, large figs.
I don't have JH Adriatic, just Adriatic.  It's got tons of figs on it and is pushing lots of growth this year.  Borjosotte Gris is another green/red fig.  First year in ground.  Not sure how prolific it will be, but I've got it because it's reputation is that it's figs taste more strawberry than strawberries.  I think Desert King is red / green, but only one crop.

Suzi 

Subject: A few VDB cuttings for grabs or trade Replies: 36
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,256
 
Congratulations!  More to come!!

Suzi

Subject: Bird protection other than netting? Replies: 18
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 709
 
I do save up those plastic thingies that cherry tomatoes and berries come in.  They have this snap feature, and those will protect your fig or whatever.  No animal or bird can unsnap those things.

Suzi

Subject: Bird protection other than netting? Replies: 18
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 709
 
Rewton, I don't know, but all I know is the expensive bags are shredded, and the fig is gone.  So I think I wasted my money on the stupid bags.  I still have a lot of them, but...  No trust.  I think a snake will scare off a coyote!  My kids gave me a bunch of herbs for my birthday, and they couldn't find a snake, so they gave me this rubber dinosaur.  Well the thing has scared off every lizard that used to come onto the patio.  It just stands there with it's big teeth and threatens.  They stay away.  Rubber/fake is ok.

Suzi

 

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