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Subject: What else do you grow? Replies: 106
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 9,150
 
We grow many varieties of Citrus, many varieties of wine grapes, pomegranates, persimmon, Pakistan Mulberry, Macadamia, Avocado, Walking Onions, Tomatoes, Jalapenos, Anna Apple x 2, Olives x 2, Nasturtiums for Salads, and a whole bunch of Fig Trees.

Suzi

Subject: Carmelized Figs Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 394
 
No comprende. OK.  I like mine fresh, and my recipes in English.  Carmelized onions are probably the same.  You just sautee on low for a long time, stir occasionally, and then they are delish.

When you have an abundance of ripe figs, then you can do recipes.  At the moment, I don't have enough.  In a year or two........

Suzi

Subject: There's figs at my new school! Replies: 15
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 917
 
What a fun discovery!  Make friends with the gardener so when it's time, you can get cuttings.

Suzi

Subject: Just received my 2nd Fig tree Replies: 7
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 444
 
I'd put the one from Edible Landscaping into a 2 gallon to start, but know, it's gonna need bigger and bigger. 

Suzi

Subject: Redneck greenhouse- almost free Replies: 27
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 889
 
Congrats!  Looks great!  So when do the plants go in?

Suzi

Subject: Too soon to start air layers? (pics) Replies: 5
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 290
 
I need to do air layers for friends, but I'm waiting till the breba ripen.  Don't want to ship them in dirt.  Waiting till later to do them so I can ship bare root.

Suzi

Subject: Video: Grafting tomatoes and eggplants on a tree Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 894
 
I have seeds for a tomato tree, but we can't figure out where to put one so it can get the support it needs.  This year, gonna be happy with the Big Boy tomato I can tie to the trellis.

It amazes me he does this in full sun, with no worries.  Where is the shade cloth and all the anguish?

Suzi

Subject: UC DAVIS CUTTINGS Replies: 42
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,890
 
I just completed my order for next year and got the confirmation.  Man, that was tough!  Do you know how many Wine Grapes I had to scroll through?  OMG 1,670 something!!  Ficus Carica was cake!  Only 217 varieties.  Pistachio.  Easy.  Got an unknown male and female.  Ordered one Pomegranate that is so sweet they make wine out of it.  THEN, because I use that Fed Ex account rarely, I had to open a new account because they closed the previous one due to lack of use....... 

I put my Fed Ex number in the section for Comments.

Here is what I used for their research section, and it is the truth. 

Intended use of material:
    I plan to root these cuttings and plant them in the Groasis Waterboxx's here on our property in Riverside County.  They will require no irrigation and I will be able to report to you after 2-3 years.  Our plan is to convert our entire property to the waterboxx technology to help save water in the drought, yet produce healthy fruit and nut vines and trees.

Suzi

Subject: seeds Replies: 28
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 731
 
bamafig NO NO!  Common figs can be propagated by seeds.  I just WANT to attract the wasp so I'm using Calimyrna.

How to Germinate Fig Seeds

Things You'll Need

  • 2 to 3 fresh ripe figs
  • Bowl
  • Slotted spoon

Instructions

1.        Soak two or three fresh, ripe figs in a bowl of clean water for one to two days. Use your fingers to break open the figs, exposing the seeds and pulp. Return the figs to the water for an additional one to two days. Scoop out any pulpy material that floats to the top; any viable fig seeds will sink to the bottom of the bowl. Pour the water in the bowl through a strainer and spread the seeds on a paper towel to allow them to dry slightly.

2.        Combine equal parts peat moss, perlite and finely ground volcanic rock to create a coarse, well-draining growing medium in which to germinate your seeds. Pour the growing medium into a 4- to 6-inch-deep tray with drainage holes in the bottom.

3.        Mix the fig seeds with 1/2 cup of wood ash or fine horticultural sand. Distribute the mixture evenly over the surface of the growing medium in the tray.

4.        Water the seeds to settle them into the growing medium and encourage them to germinate.

5.        Place the tray in a location that receives four to six hours of bright sunlight per day. Water, as needed, to keep the growing medium evenly moist; the seeds should germinate and sprout in approximately seven to 10 days.

Just instructions I saved in a word doc.  Seed away! :-))
Suzi


Subject: OT Kyoho grape rare Japanese variety Replies: 29
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,482
 
I'm putting together my 2016 order right now, and I just found your grape.  It's not on my list because we only grow wine grapes of certain varietals that grow well and produce in our climate.  I'm looking to increase our vineyard production with the Groasis Waterboxx so that in our drought, we can still grow our vineyard with zero irrigation.

You probably already have this, but here you go......

456 DVIT 616 - Vitis vinifera subsp. vinifera - Kyoho - Japan -- rank: 934
DVIT 616 Vitis vinifera subsp. vinifera VITACEAE (wine grape) 'Kyoho' Developed in: Japan Maintained by the Natl. Germplasm ... loose; berry large; skin deep purple; flesh similar to vinifera, flavor foxy like Herbert; soluable solid contents varying ... Site Old Name ---------- ----------- ------ ------------------------------------------------ NOM-CHANGE 06-Aug-2002 SBML Vitis vinifera Source History Accession was developed. 1935. Japan. Developers ...
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/acchtml.pl?1007564 - 3468 bytes -


Subject: New Greenhouse Thoughts Replies: 18
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 558
 
I think you did a great job!  I have one of those flimsy el cheapos, so it never gets used.  Congratulations on the great job!!

Suzi

Subject: seeds Replies: 28
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 731
 
It would be fun to see all the figs we know of that were started from seeds.  Every forum has this discussion... like apple seeds.  Sure, you can grow an apple, but chances are, it won't be a new and exciting variety.  Same with roses.  Same with citrus.  I have a large seedling someone planted, and it has the tiniest lemons ever, but they are tasty...make great salad dressing!  So seedy though.  Still, the tree stays.

Breeders do try hard, and they document the parentage, but random gardeners hope for the best and if it is, they don't know what to do, other than give it a name and enjoy the thrill of getting a good tree from a seedling.  I'll try to document which fig gave me the seeds I use this fall.  I plan to use the leftovers from birds and critters.

It just occurred to me that birds and critters could be spreading seed into surrounding property and we'll never know what those unknowns came from.

Suzi

Subject: seeds Replies: 28
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 731
 
figpig_66, the reason the figs you buy are pollinated is because the ones sold in stores are caprifigs and they require the wasp.  Those are commercial varieties that dry and ship well.  Jon has had good success with seedlings that end up being common figs, and he has submitted some to UC Davis for evaluation.  Raspberry Latte is one that comes to mind.  There are others, but I can't pin them down at the moment.

Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
Well, this thread is about drought in California.  Not about quality of fruit.  I do believe that we all need to cut back on the water, and we already have.  We replaced our lawn with a fake lawn AKA putting green.  It's just gorgeous all the time.  But hot as concrete if you go barefoot on it.  Looks good though. 

I'm really interested in how to increase our vineyard and orchards with zero water, and I think the Groasis Tech might be the answer.

Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
Richard, expand on that.  Low water in vineyards = great wine.  From experience.  Yours?

Suzi

Subject: Chip/Bud Grafting Question Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 583
 
brackishfigger, Gonna try!  TY

Suzi

Subject: Chip/Bud Grafting Question Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 583
 
Thanks Jon.  I'm a little confused, but what else is new.  I looked at the link.  Question remains.  I have old wood cuttings with dormant buds.  Do I graft on old or new wood?  I understand the "how.", but not the when.

Suzi

Subject: UC DAVIS CUTTINGS Replies: 42
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,890
 
Paul, don't worry.  Just say you are researching how a certain cutting will do in your climate.  The real researchers are first in line, but they will respect your order.

Suzi

Subject: Chip/Bud Grafting Question Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 583
 
Nice videos!  Now I need to put this to reality!  Thanks Francisco!

Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
A solution posted in the Dry Farming thread seems like the answer for plants, trees, and veggies during a drought and after.  It's kinda a wick system in ground and encourages roots to grow deep.  It takes 4 gallons of water at planting to get it primed, and no water after that.  The roots reach the water table, and they grow on their own.  Kinda amazing how it works.  They have tons of videos of trees they have planted in dry deserts, and rocky hills in Spain.  I'm planning to get 10 of these for new rooted fig and grapevine cuttings.  Robert Mondavi is testing these side by side with the growboxx next to drip irrigation rows, and after a year, the growbox roots were deep and the ground was easier to penetrate.  Their website is here.  I've spent a couple days learning.  Amazing stuff.  After a year, you reuse the boxes for new plants.

Suzi

Subject: Chip/Bud Grafting Question Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 583
 
Thanks Francisco!  I'll check for you tube videos for the methods you mentioned so I do things right!  Knife better be sharp!  Brand new!

Suzi

Subject: seeds Replies: 28
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 731
 
Franscisco encouraged me to purchase some dried Calimyrna seeds and to let them grow on the property to lure the wasp here for my caprifigs.  I doubt you will get self pollinating trees from Turkish figs.  But if you harvest seeds from a common fig, then the result should be (but not always) a common type.

I'm learning about working with our drought here in California and found this to be a great read on seedlings.  Because of this article, I'll be tossing fig seeds in cracks in boulders down in the wild ravine this fall with fingers crossed.

Suzi

Subject: Fuzzy white stuff around each bud on branch. Replies: 25
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,013
 
So it got moldy.  You probably should be sure the mold is dead by hitting it with bleach water.  As long as the branches are green, they will probably put out new shoots.  Sometimes if you prune the growth tips, the tree will push new shoots.

Good luck to you!

Suzi

Subject: dry farming Replies: 12
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 697
 
smatthew, I have been mesmerized by the you tube videos on that Groasis Waterboxx.  I'd love to buy 10 of them and start fig and grapevine cuttings in them.  To be irrigation free in this drought would be a blessing!  The Dubai desert project was amazing!  I hope they keep updating over time.  I'd love to see how the trees do when they take that box off, and that's the other thing.  You can reuse their boxes for up to 10 years! 

Thanks for posting this.  You should also go post about it in the California water restrictions thread.

Suzi

Subject: Chip/Bud Grafting Question Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 583
 
I have given up on my "Wild One" fig tree ever fruiting.  I call the tree that name only because I took cuttings from a wild fig in a vacant lot.  It's been 4 years now.  I have a few cuttings I'm trying to root, and I really want those varieties to make it, so I'll sacrifice ONE bud of each variety and graft it onto Wild One, not to make a Frankenfig, but just to get a sprout I can airlayer and grow on it's own as a back-up to losing the cuttings.

Wild One is in partial shade and has grown out of her container.  She has both old wood and new wood.  The cuttings are all dormant, so OLD wood.  Do I graft the bud to OLD or NEW wood, or does it matter?

Wild One is in full growth mode.  Just no figs.

I appreciate all your wisdom here.  Thanks!

Suzi

Edited to state that I have a brand new grafting knife AND Budding tape.

Subject: OT: Baseball is finally here! Replies: 37
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 959
 
Sports do that overlap thing.  The Masters is this week and I'm picking my $$ Fantasy Golf team.  I don't do Fantasy Baseball, but I'll be cheering for the Angels, and picking my golfers all through the summer.  THEN comes $$ Fantasy Football.  Can NOT wait for that!! 

Go ANGELS!!

Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
Lots of clouds today.  Fingers crossed for rain tomorrow.  I wish there was a way to capture the runoff from our steep road.  Even a light rain creates a river down the middle.  Evidently, prior to us moving here, it would make a big lake at the bottom that cars had difficulty driving through, so there are all these speed bump things that catch water and divert it off to the sides and down into the ravines.  Any rain hitting at the top of the hills will tend to transfer down with gravity, so hillside trees here should benefit.

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
Yesterday while driving, the newsman came on and said it is supposed to rain here Tuesday, so I looked at Intellicast.  Hmmmm.  Tues night.  Light Rain.  70%.  This probably means no rain.  We'd all love a 3 day downpour, but the flip side of that is floods.  Sad for those who are in states experiencing flooding.

Subject: Happy Easter! Replies: 30
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 509
 
Hope you all have a really Happy Easter!  Wow!  Snow in Poland!  We are spending ours with family and I don't have to cook!  Looking forward to a great day and wish the same for all of you!

Suzi

Subject: question about braiding plants Replies: 10
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 399
 
Valerie, if I wanted to do what you want to do, I would root cuttings making sure they had equal vigor, put three rooted, sprouted cuttings in one 5 gallon container and as the sprouts grew, I'd braid them, and pinch off any new sprouts coming from the soil or the trunks.  What you want is 3 trunks that you can braid with NO branches.  Do not pinch the growth tip.  Key is, either use ONE variety, or 3 that have equal vigor. 

Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
Rewton, in the Southern California Low deserts, Windmills and miles of solar panels facing South West are all along Highway 10.  In our case, we put solar panels on our South Facing roof.  Our Electric Bill?  $1.25 / month. 

We have so many beaches where they could put solar panels (kinda on slanted fence type things) to generate the electricity to run the desalination plants, but they are just to stupid to think of that.  I guess Surfer's have a lot of clout with government.

Suzi

Subject: cutting from UC Davis Replies: 14
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 568
 
John, it's really hard to see trees upside down.  LOL!  BUT, all UCD trees come infected with FMV which, in your zone, would make things tough.  They should grow out of it with age, but they might need more fertilizer and care.  In my zone, 9b, FMV is not a problem.  I do have FMV free trees, and they don't seem to catch the stuff, but my trees are spread over 1.5 acres and all in ground once they go dormant in a 3 gallon container.  IF they go dormant, which this year, nothing did.

I'm certain yours will root GeneDaniels!  Good luck!

Suzi

Subject: dry farming Replies: 12
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 697
 
I have started some cuttings under boulders that are only getting the dampness from under the boulder.  So far, only one has sprouted.  Most of our figs are planted near boulders so their roots will be drawn to the cool dampness that exists under the rocks.  Not sure if it's time to stop the water, but California may soon demand that.  A 25% cut has been mandated, and we already did that last year, so ours will soon be on 50% less than they used to get.  The best thing about drippers is you can use lower gallon emitters to achieve the cuts, so they still get regular water, but not as much.

Suzi

Subject: I owe the Fig Godfather Big Time. I Love Surprises! Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 589
 
The tree has two figs and two figlets on it.  Fingers crossed they ripen well.  Looking forward to it and will post pictures!

Suzi

Subject: I owe the Fig Godfather Big Time. I Love Surprises! Replies: 9
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 589
 
Yesterday I received a garbage disposal box addressed to me.  Hmmmm  Too light for a garbage disposal...  Inside was an unlabeled fig tree.  This was a true mystery.  I recognized the senders name, but couldn't place a screen name to it.

Luckily, Figaro AKA the Fig Godfather contacted me by PM about the Garbage Disposal I had received.  It's an Excel!  Woo hoo!  In my wish list notes I have a quote from Snaglpus.  Dennis Rates a 12.  "Will make you pass out"  A MUST have!

Now I need to return the favor.  Saving that box for the very purpose.

The generosity of members here is amazing!  Big job today is to put a label on that fig tree!

Suzi

Subject: cutting from UC Davis Replies: 14
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 568
 
That's awesome!  Good luck rooting your Col de Dame!

Suzi

Subject: A Question For Those Who Pinch Replies: 2
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 444
 
I have only pinched for fig production, and have only observed that unless the side branches are removed young, they will act as multiple trunks with as much vigor as the first one.  When I do pinch for fig production, the pinch only affects the branch I pinched by causing it to sprout many side branches with more shoots, leaves and figs.

Suzi

Subject: Fig tree borer Replies: 16
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 852
 
I don't see borers in my figs, but the apple sure got them.  We have painted every trunk of every tree with 50% latex paint to prevent sunburn.  They really like sunburned trunks.  Good luck with this problem.
Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
smatthew that is a great contribution to this thread and I'm sure it will help many without water.  Thanks so much for your input.

Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
Once you get it on site, how do you distribute it to the plants?

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
How do you transport that many gallons?  You have access to a tank truck?
Suzi

Subject: Unknown pretty fig Replies: 7
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 397
 
You can go to Jon's variety list and scroll through to see if something matches.  The leaf is 3 lobed, the fruit is round with a short neck.  Gold when ripe, and pale strawberry inside.  Hmmmmmmm  Have you tasted it?

Subject: Question about Red Rimmed Leaves Replies: 14
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 585
 
@gorgi:  I had heard that also, and was wondering if it can help (when figs appear) so I can get this one Identified by the group.  I THINK it's Vernino, but not sure.  I lost a few tags when we moved here to this property.

@FrozenJoe:  My HC doesn't seem to show this feature.  Maybe the climate?

Suzi

Subject: Col de Dam Noir Baud cheap price Replies: 20
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 926
 
You are a rascal, Dennis!!  :-)  I got the word from JD.  NO MORE FIGS!  So, I thought it was a great deal for somebody else.  I take my "thank you for the heads-up" back!  Glad I didn't bite!! 

Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
I'm thankful that Fig trees (in ground) are drought tolerant.  The few potted figs we have are on drip.  We have planted most of ours near boulders so their roots can stay cool and damp.  We replaced our lawn with a very expensive FAKE very GREEN putting green.  Everything is on drip, and that isn't cheap either.  Some smart previous owner practically covered this land (1.5 acres) with drought tolerant rosemary.  Svanessa has a beautiful drought tolerant perennial called Statice.  I just ordered seeds.

I just don't want our pine groves to die.  They are on drip, and were neglected for years from foreclosure, so they are coming back.  Just lost a lime to some disease.

I do make coffee and wash the dishes, but we cut the showers to really short and every other dayish. 

I have planted a ton of succulents.  They spread fast and my big worry is fire.  They hold any water they can in their leaves and stop the burn.

Not pretty, but most of our country has had drought or floods.

Rain Dance!!

Suzi

Subject: CA water restrictions Replies: 99
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 2,443
 
Pretty Scary!  We have already had county restrictions.  They divided up all the residents into sections.  Each section can only water gardens on certain days and times.  That will probably change again with these new restrictions.  We are in the agricultural water zone, not city, so we are on orchard and dairy farm rules. 

We all hope for rain soon!

Suzi

Subject: Col de Dam Noir Baud cheap price Replies: 20
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 926
 
Wow!  Thanks for the head's up!

Suzi

Subject: Great deal on Grafting Tool Replies: 35
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,315
 
Thanks Pino.  I tried T-budding one grapevine a couple years ago. FAIL!  But I know more now than I did then.  I know enough to know I know absolutely nothing! :-)  Just bought a grafting knife on Ebay with a bevel on one side specifically for the Avocados.  At the recent vineyard seminar in Ramona, CA we visited many vineyards where the owners explained some vines are from cuttings and some on American root stock.  Most vineyards here worry more about Pierce's disease spread by the Glassy Winged Sharpshooter and they all use Imacloprid when irrigating.

Here is my big fig grafting question.  Can it be done in spring when sap is flowing? 

Thanks!

Suzi

Subject: Great deal on Grafting Tool Replies: 35
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 1,315
 
I bought that Omega tool a couple years ago and have yet to use it.  I may try it on grapes.  After the vineyard seminar, I realized we have too many varietials to make good wine, so need to top work the vines to about 5 varieties.  Getting a knife to graft our seedling avocado to top work a really good variety on to it that will pollinate our other really good variety.  Good thread!

Suzi

Subject: Question about Red Rimmed Leaves Replies: 14
Posted By: DesertDance Views: 585
 
You can probably see the 3' of chicken wire circling that tree.  Taking no chances on critter bites!  Plus, I hit it with that mix of tabasco and water every few days.  Whatever bit it hasn't come back.

So, the red rims mean nothing, and I will wait to see what kind of fig this actually is.  Hate losing the tags, but happens!

Suzi

 

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