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Subject: Fruit Flies and Figs. Yaks. Replies: 17
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,378
 
Paully, I had a bad year last year with fruit flies and sour beetles. It rained so much there was nothing to do and I threw in the towel. But before I did, I tried an experiment since the figs were all ruined or would not ripen that late in the season. I sprayed the orchard with Malathion, neem oil and bleach. My thinking was that the Malathion would kill the active flies and beetles, the neem oil would interrupt their breeding, and the bleach would kill of any of the yeast that the bugs brought to the fruit to turn it sour. After 4 days 90 percent of the bugs were gone and the few left were acting a little looney. I sprayed them again on the 5th day. A week later there were no bugs to be found and hardly any soured fruit.

This year at the first sigh of a bug I sprayed my concoction. That was the only spraying I did. I only saw a few flies or beetles all season. I have figs now that are spitting wide open and not one bug on them. I don't know if it will work for you but it seems to do the trick for me. Well I also have my guards under the trees, my 6 hens. They peck and scratch all day long and I know they remove a lot of them before they can leave the ground. 

I hope this helps,
"gene"

Subject: O'Rourke pix Replies: 5
Posted By: genecolin Views: 418
 
Nice, one of my favorites.
"gene"

Subject: cool ideal for cheep year round greenhouse Replies: 13
Posted By: genecolin Views: 711
 
I saw one like that at an old plantation home here in La. It had a glass house over it and was only about 10 x 15 feet. If I dug a hole 6 to 8 foot deep where I live, I'd have a swimming pool.
"gene''

Subject: LSU O'Rourke 14th July 2014 Replies: 11
Posted By: genecolin Views: 748
 
Paul nice shot of a bunch of ripening figs. How old is your tree. Mine is bearing for the second year and although it's loaded with figs they are ripening one after the other rather that a bunch like you show. Mine are great tasting and waterproof.
"gene"

Subject: A Warning To All The Non Diabetics Replies: 21
Posted By: genecolin Views: 815
 
My wife has type 2 and has recently started taking a supplement called Glucosil. It has several herbal ingredients with mulberry leaf for the main one. Taking two with lunch and two with dinner has brought her sugar level lower to the point where she has been able to get off of one RX drug and her levels are now more stable that before. She has done this with her doctor's blessing.
"gene"

Subject: Wasps from Hell. Suggestions? Replies: 19
Posted By: genecolin Views: 605
 

You might try spraying with neem oil. It deters other insects from my figs.

"gene"


Subject: JH Adriatic Replies: 11
Posted By: genecolin Views: 737
 
Art, do you have any problem with them splitting even in dry weather. I have ripened a few and they were great tasting but many of them start to swell rapidly and split at the eye before they ripen. In a few days they are split completely wide open but not ripe. The ones that do ripen don't swell as much and develop brown sugar spots and taste great.
"gene"

Subject: Photos of Early Season Fig Cultivars-A lot of Pictures Replies: 51
Posted By: genecolin Views: 3,670
 
Wow Charles, You've got me wanting to go visit you across town. I wish I had been as successful, but I know you put in the time to make it so.
"gene"

Subject: O'Rourke - Edible Landscaping Replies: 15
Posted By: genecolin Views: 2,061
 
Tam those don't look like a typical O'Rourke leaf and that hollow center might be another clue. My leaves are mostly 5 lobed and the fig has a solid center. My figs are very sweet but taste different than Celeste. Just saying.
"gene"

Subject: O'Rourke (JR) 7-22-14 Replies: 40
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,363
 
TAM, I'd gladly try anything to help the situation. The main problem is the almost daily rains. It's hard to go a 24 hour period without any rain. Any spraying goes for naught.  These last three years have been the worst I can remember. Rust usually hits after most of the figs have ripened but not so these last few years. I can only hope that the seasons revert back to normal.

The tree that you see with the rust and the single leaves is the Tiger which is overtaking some of the O'Rourke's space. It will get a hard pruning this winter.
"gene"

Subject: O'Rourke (JR) 7-22-14 Replies: 40
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,363
 
TAM, here is a picture of my tree. It somewhat hard to separate it from it's close neighbors. The tree on the left and close to the camera is Tiger. On the left is LSU Gold. The O'Rourke is dead center. If you look closely you can see a two litter bottle which is my air layer.

Pete, I'm hoping to save my current tree and get one good air layer off of it. I will also try to get a couple more. I will probably replace the Tiger and the LSU Gold with more O'Rourkes.

"gene"


Subject: O'Rourke (JR) 7-22-14 Replies: 40
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,363
 
Chapman I don't think you could call a native Celeste that has not been hybridized and Improved Celeste. Now I don't know if anyone else besides the LSU programs has put out hybrid Celeste and another "if" is in California there could be some Celeste that were hybridized naturally by the fig wasp.

Pete, I'm not very good at deciphering different taste of figs but I do know that the O'Rourke is different from a Celeste or Improved Celeste. Perhaps you are right about the maple like flavor, and I'm talking about true maple not that artificial flavored stuff that most buy. What ever the flavor is I know that I like it very much. I wish the tree was a heavy producer but is seems not to be as productive as the Improved Celeste.

Tam, I'll keep you in mind for cuttings this winter. I should be able to get a few off of it. As it is, I'm air layering the top of the tree. It has become loose in the ground caused by strong winds. Hopefully it survives at least long enough for me to get my air layer and maybe a few more cuttings this winter.

''gene"

Subject: O'Rourke (JR) 7-22-14 Replies: 40
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,363
 
I have eaten fruit from all three. The two improved Celeste are in 3 gallon pots and the figs will get better I'm sure. The taste was very much like a regular Celeste and the figs look like and were about the size of Celeste. I'm expecting them to be larger when I put them in the ground. The O'Rourke is completely different. The fig is elongated somewhat and is very sweet but a different flavor than Celeste. I really like them.

I didn't take pictures of the two improved Celeste as I thought they weren't good examples of the fruit.

On a side note, my Father in Law had two trees given to him by a friend who told him these were Celeste that make larger figs. I firmly believe that these two trees were improved Celeste. I have picked many gallons off these trees and they were very good. They did not ripen to the over ripe stage like Celeste where they get real dark and taste like candy, but then I wasn't into figs then except for eating all I could. The trees are now history as they were taken out by a hurricane around 10 years ago.

"gene"

I will try to get a picture of my O'Rourke tree tomorrow if the rains let up. 

O'Rourke




Subject: O'Rourke (JR) 7-22-14 Replies: 40
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,363
 

I guess the controversy of the LSU improved Celeste will rage on for some time. I have a tree that came directly from the tree at LSU and not through a third party. I also have a tree from JR which I picked up in person. It had the label as follows "Improved Celeste (O'Rourke) and came with the verbal comment from JR that the Improved Celeste and O'Rourke is the same. (In a way he is correct as the only named improved Celeste from LSU is the O'Rourke) I also have an improved Celeste that I obtained from Dr. Mayer whom I believe was associated with the horticulture dept of ULL or La. Tech, someone will have to correct me on that one. The tree I got from him which was started from cutting of his own trees was tagged Improved Celeste. Talking to his son, he told me that this improved Celeste and the O'Rourke were the same. Here are some pictures of all three of the leaves off my trees, plus LSU Tiger.

Improved Celeste (O'Rourke) from JR





Improved Celeste from Dr. Mayers





O'Rourke from LSU





When we went to the LSU fig day last year I asked Dr. Johnson about the shape of the leaves. I told him that I didn't think the picture of the leaf published in the LSU document resembled the leaves on the tree we were were looking at. He then pointed to one leaf on the very bottom of the tree that had the exact look of the leaf as published. To me that leaf is not typical, but it does present itself on occasion. I see it on my tree at times but not today as I took these pictures.

LSU Tiger





I know that none of this proves or disproves anything but rather I just thought I'd post the three different leaf patterns of my three different trees from three different sources.
"gene"


Subject: LSU FIG FIELD DAY!!!!!!! Replies: 53
Posted By: genecolin Views: 5,655
 
Dennis, nice pics. How does the Texas Everbearing handle the rain. I'm looking to rid myself of many of my trees that split and sour. So far O'Rourke and Alma are the only ones that take all the rain that can fall.
"gene"

Subject: Genovese Nero Replies: 17
Posted By: genecolin Views: 839
 
Looking good Cal, keep me updated on this one. If it truly puts up with the rain you and I have to talk. The only figs I have that is making it through all the rain in O'Rourke and Alma. I'm hoping that the weather dries out by the time that the J.H. Adriatic and Strawberry begin to ripen. They are later figs so I might get some from those as they are loaded.
"gene"

Subject: Black Provence Replies: 15
Posted By: genecolin Views: 973
 
Sorry to say with all the rains we've had my last one spoiled on the tree.
"gene"

Subject: Hollier Replies: 7
Posted By: genecolin Views: 472
 
I agree with Mike, the uglier the better.
"gene"

Subject: Black Provence Replies: 15
Posted By: genecolin Views: 973
 
Mike I had two small figs on my BP. They didn't look like they were ripening correctly. Although they got real dark the skins were tough and dry. I cut one open to taste and it had little flavor. I will cut the other in the next day or two and try to remember to post pictures. My tree is in a pot.
"gene"

Subject: Mead Replies: 16
Posted By: genecolin Views: 702
 
I've never had a Hardy Chicago to compare it to. I do have about a dozen that will be ripe in a day or so. I hope to get a very good taste of them. Thanks Mike for taking the time to set the record straight on the name of this fig. Some times I tend to forget things or remember them incorrectly.
"gene"

Subject: Today's Harvest Replies: 9
Posted By: genecolin Views: 449
 
Brian here it been very dry also and then all of a sudden it ended. We had 3 1/4" Thursday and 1" on Friday. It also came very close yesterday and today but we lucked out. I need at least a week of dry weather now.
"gene"

Subject: Today's Harvest Replies: 9
Posted By: genecolin Views: 449
 
Looking good Brian. How are your Tigers holding up with the rain we've had in the last couple of days. Mine are starting to split and sour. I picked some not quite ripe yesterday evening to can as preserves. To can them they don't need to be fully ripe, in fact they are better at least a day or two before being fully ripe. That way they have the flavor but don't fall apart when canned.
"gene"

Subject: Lsu gold Replies: 14
Posted By: genecolin Views: 932
 
That's a nice big one Ryan, none of mine reached that size.
"gene"

Subject: Mead Replies: 16
Posted By: genecolin Views: 702
 
Yes, that is the same one as far as I know. The fig is named after MGorski's aunt but when he started letting out cuttings he spelled her name with the extra "e". He later realized that her name was Mead. When he and I were trading cuttings he had spelled it Mead and that's the way I've kept it. I hope I got the story right.
"gene''

Subject: Today's haul Replies: 44
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,660
 
Manel, I to can testify to the fact that Ken has a wonderful garden in a great place. I just wish I could visit him again but the fact that he's about 1200 miles from my house to his it's not a trip that I will make often. He's the one who gave me the idea to build an anti-bird cage over my orchard. Let me tell you. that thing really works. It make growing figs possible here.
"gene"

Subject: Mead Replies: 16
Posted By: genecolin Views: 702
 
Francisco, it is a nice looking fig. I must give thanks to MGorski who introduced me to the tree and gave me cuttings. As I understand it, the tree was growing at his Aunt Mead's house, thus the name. Perhaps he will chime in with a little more info. Thanks again Mike.
"gene"

Subject: Fig Question. Clue look up on your screen Replies: 7
Posted By: genecolin Views: 381
 
California Brown Turkey.
"gene"

Subject: Mead Replies: 16
Posted By: genecolin Views: 702
 
Wayne, you have to have patience when grow trees. They, unlike flowers, don't pop up and produce in a few months. Sometimes is takes a few years. Then when they bear you have to be patient to allow them to ripen before you pick. Here's the best to you and your trees and may your harvest next year be great. 
"gene''

Subject: Mead Replies: 16
Posted By: genecolin Views: 702
 
Doug my figs are larger this year also. In fact the interior even looks different. Last year the figs were as small as Celeste or smaller and the interior was amber colored. This year they are much larger than Celeste and have a nice red interior.
"gene"

Subject: Mead Replies: 16
Posted By: genecolin Views: 702
 
This fig is a surprise. The last two year I didn't get to taste them because of the poor weather. I did try to sample the ripe and split ones and some not so ripe to try to get an idea of the taste but it was a total let down. This year with dry weather until the ripening day and they are supurb. The taste surprised me by not being figgy as in Celeste and also not being berry tasting. If fact I cannot place the taste but it is sweet and ends with a peachy flavor. Very nice and I can't wait for more.
"gene"






Subject: LSU Tiger Replies: 14
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,076
 
James I'm excited for you. Last year I didn't get to eat one of the 50 or so that were on my tree. They all split and soured and that also happened the year before that. As I stated before, I almost dug it out but decided to give it a fair chance at a good dry year. Well this was the year, and the figs are great. They have a little of the Celeste fig taste but a little milder and sweet that finish with a light acid touch. Very good. You will be very happy when they ripen. We had hard rain two days in a row (1 3/4" and 1") and no signs of splitting and not watered down.
"gene"

perfectly ripened


slightly open eye with a little seepage


Yum, yum

Subject: Today's haul Replies: 44
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,660
 
JD, thanks for the reply. I wasn't doubting anyone it's just that in the picture the figs sure look somewhat like my O'Rourke. You know as well as I that there is a lot of confusion about those two figs.
"gene"

Subject: Clusters of Cajun Gold Replies: 24
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,196
 
This fig continues to ripen figs over a long period because as it is ripening figs now it also is putting out new ones. It loves the dry weather which makes the figs that much sweeter. I saw that you had a Conadria, well this fig knocks the socks off of Conadria in taste and sweetness. If you want one I might be able to arrange that.
"gene"

Subject: Today's haul Replies: 44
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,660
 
Nice Ken, is it possible that your Improved Celeste is an O'Rourke? I see the elongated fruit and the presence of striped ribs or veins. That is what my O'Rourke looks like.
"gene"




Subject: Clusters of Cajun Gold Replies: 24
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,196
 
Here are some pictures I took today of some Cajun Golds I picked for my daughter.
"gene"




Subject: Bird problem solved--at least for now Replies: 38
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,625
 
Looks great again Ken, I hope it holds up for the rest of the season.
"gene"

Subject: OT any contractors? need window installation help Replies: 3
Posted By: genecolin Views: 245
 
I had some new vinyls put in last year. They just slip in between the upright finished window opening and then they screw to the side through the channels. The ones I had put in had a seal all around that filled the gap. Hope this helps.
"gene"

Subject: Martin's Unknow Replies: 9
Posted By: genecolin Views: 438
 
Good luck Gene.
"gene"

Subject: Norman's Yellow Replies: 16
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,108
 
Quote: Tim is an honorable man.


I'll second that.
"gene"

Subject: Bird problem solved--at least for now Replies: 38
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,625
 
Ken it's hard to get a good picture of the cage but here are a couple to give you an idea.





this one is a favorite, he's outside where he belongs and me and my figs are inside. In two seasons I've not had one mocking break in to "Fort Fig".

Subject: Clusters of Cajun Gold Replies: 24
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,196
 
Steve I put that question to my BIL today after we did a taste test. We tested China White, Cajun Gold, LSU Gold, LSU Tiger, Celeste and VdB. He chose Cajun Gold as the hands down winner.
"gene"

Subject: Bird problem solved--at least for now Replies: 38
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,625
 
Ken I sorry to hear of your plight. I hope it not too bad and easily repaired. Mine has taken some pretty tough thunderstorm winds with no problem. But again I have 3/4 inch mesh. I don't have those little birds that you have.

Steve set them up, the birds that is. Leave a small opening at ground level and they will find it. approach from that side and they will be your for the taking.
"gene"

Subject: 1st air layer - LSU Tiger Replies: 5
Posted By: genecolin Views: 300
 
Thanks Steve, that looks good. I have some of those cups and they work fine and very easy to remove the root ball from with doing any damage.

Speaking of Tiger, I'm really impressed with mine this year. For a tree that I almost dug out, I must say that it is producing some great figs this season.
"gene"

Subject: Martin's Unknow Replies: 9
Posted By: genecolin Views: 438
 
Thanks all, Ryan I'll have to wait until next year to do a comparison.
"gene"

Subject: Martin's Unknow Replies: 9
Posted By: genecolin Views: 438
 
Bob, I touched it to feel for ripeness and it fell into my hand. There are many more on the tree and if the weather holds out I should get a chance to taste a bunch.
"gene"

Subject: Martin's Unknow Replies: 9
Posted By: genecolin Views: 438
 
This morning I picked a perfectly ripe and tasty Martin's Unknown. It's nice to be able to allow a fig to ripen to perfection without the worry of a bird pecking it. The fig was just sweet enough to make it refreshing, not very juicy but moist enough to allow it to be mashed by your tongue and slowly releasing it goodness and flavor that ended with a mystery taste. After eating the second half I realized what the taste was, it was peachy and it was great.
"gene"






Subject: Clusters of Cajun Gold Replies: 24
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,196
 
Dale I'd like to see the t-shirt, ha. I very happy for you and glad to hear that it took winter well. How did you store it? I hope you get to taste some this season.

I have a friend that also bought a tree for a LSU Gold that he describe similar to mine. I'm hoping to check out his tree soon. I think he also bought his from Lowes. The largest supplier of fig trees to Lowes in south La. is Becnels.
"gene"

Subject: Vista, another first Replies: 23
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,063
 
Dale, I wish you luck.
"gene"

Subject: Bird problem solved--at least for now Replies: 38
Posted By: genecolin Views: 1,625
 
Ken, thanks for the update. Inspired by seeing your first one when we visited a couple of years ago, I built mine. It's very similar and is 55 feet by 20 feet. It has been a blessing. Although I had lousy seasons two years in a row, we are off to a great start this year. No rain and no bugs. There is nothing like being able to let a fig ripen to just the right stage you want without having to worry about a bird or critter snatching it from you the day or night before you want to pick it. I want to sincerely thank you for the idea. Mine is going through it second season without a hitch. I'd love to drive over and check yours out in person but we have no plans to drive that way in the near future. Good luck with your season.
"gene"

Subject: Independence Day Replies: 20
Posted By: genecolin Views: 678
 
Nice Jon, and a Happy 4th to all.
"gene"

 

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