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Subject: Packing tips - and ants Replies: 9
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 915
The best packing method for potted plants that I have seen involved the newspaper and tape over the dirt in the pot to hold it in place, and then the pot was secured at its end of the box by three 'grabber' type long screws (the kind they use to hold sheetrock onto wall frames). These were about 1.5 to 2 inches long. The whole box could be held upside down and knocked around and still the top of the plant was safe in its space while the pot was kept firmly in place by the screws.

The screws as I recall were driven in from three sides of the box, right into the plastic pot at the point that the round pot touched the wall of the box.

Subject: An Idea about yellowjackets and soured figs Replies: 2
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 380
As I walked around my yard yesterday, I noticed that a potted Conadria had several yellowjackets eating holes in the sides of the ripening figs. I had noticed this for a while on many of my trees, but until today I didn't have any idea what to do about it other than pick the figs before they were sweet enough.

So, today I decided to try diatomaceous earth. This is a non toxic (to anything but bugs) insect control substance. Many of you might already be familiar with it. I just used a turkey baster, the thing like a big syringe with a rubber red squeeze ball at the end, and filled it with the DE powder, which I then lightly puffed onto the figs that the yellowjackets were eating. It seems to be working. So, then I decided to put some into the eyes of some of my ripening open eyed figs (like brown turkey, raspberry latte etc) and logic tells me that this should help prevent the souring that is caused when bugs crawl around into the fig. I will know soon, but I have hopes that this might be a safe, effective and relatively easy way to deal with some of the bug problems I have been having with the ripe fruit that I want to let get a little bit more ripe for a day or two.

I will let you all know after a week or two how it is working out.

Subject: Orosi Green...? Replies: 3
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 731
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Here is the first fruit from my Orosi Green plants. It is accompanied by a larger Flanders breba, and a smaller Santa Cruz Dark main crop. The Orosi Green was the best of the three by far, and Flanders makes a pretty good breba. It isn't the reddish color interior that Jon's picture above is, but maybe that is because the wasp has been at work on the one Jon has? I don't know, maybe it is another plant with the same name. The shape of the fig is close, and the taste and texture were excellent. I showed an extra closeup of one side of the Orosi, to see if anyone can make out any male flowers near the eye.

The Santa Cruz Dark is about the size of a quarter at the widest circumfrance. The Orosi is also a main crop fig. The tree seems very productive.

Subject: Winterizing??'s Replies: 6
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 814
I think you can induce dormancy by cutting back on the water. This might be hard in a rainy area, but where it is dry, it seems to work.

Subject: Fig sellers that are hard to find Replies: 11
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,219
Edible Landscaping in Virginia
Burnt Ridge Nursery in Washington State
Rolling River Nursery

Subject: Fig breeding steps Replies: 95
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 7,524
The first post in this thread by Bass has some inaccurate information. You don't take the pollen from the same tree's breba crop. Ficus carica is a dioecious plant species. That means that the trees are either male or female and not both at the same time like apples and peaches. So, the pollen only gets made on the male trees which are commonly called caprifigs. You could get pollen from the profichi crop of a caprifig and put it back onto the same trees next crop if you wanted to self pollinate a male tree. You would then get seeds that would be about 50% male, and 50% female and each of those groups would each be half common fig and the other half smyrna. That is if your male tree was a 'persistent caprifig' which is equivalent to a common fig female tree. If your male tree was the male equivalent of a Smyrna type female, then none of the offspring would ripen fruit without pollination. All of the seedlings would be either smyrna females or non-persistent caprifigs.

Anyway, I am going to be trying for more variety of early ripening, cold tolerant figs. I hope to luck out and get some even though I can only grow out a limited number of seedlings. This year I plan to do a cross onto Hardy Chicago, and possibly onto Native de Argentile and I will try any other figs that seem to be cold hardy like those as I get the opportunity. I hope that some of my seedlings will be male figs with better cold tolerance than the ones I now have. These are NCGR at Davis catalog numbers DFIC0008 and DFIC0010 and have the names Enderude and Saleeb. Both were used during the UC Riverside fig breeding program in the 50's that gave us such figs as Deanna, Tena, Conadria and more.

If anyone is interested in growing some seedlings, let me know and as they get ripe this fall, I can send you some.

Subject: Any issues with planting a fig tree this close to my house? Replies: 23
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 7,892
I have seen a fig tree that is over 50 years old, planted within 20" of an old house with a sandstone foundation (irregular chunks of sandstone mortared into a 24 " wide foundation). The tree has frozen to or near to the ground many times over its 5 plus decades. there is one spot where a branch grew through the mortar space on an outside corner of a fireplace build out and has pushed out one of the bricks a little bit. The owner said there is no root damage to the foundation evident from inside the basement. Only because it is an older (maybe 100 years) structure was the mortar missing from that one corner to allow the shoot to grow through it and because of not much maintenance, grow to over 1'' diameter.
My point is, that even though some of the main stems of this old clump of stems (about 10' long in this 24 inch piece of dirt between driveway and structure) are over 6" diameter, there isn't any observable damage to the foundation. I have 13 plants planted within 24 inches of a two level school building I take care of. But the oldest in the ground is only 5 years, so the roots aren't very large yet. I have no worries however, because under the building is dry, so there is no reason for the roots to want to go there. They may go a little under the footings, but I doubt they will do any harm.

Subject: Announcing the Figs 4 Fun Foundation Replies: 111
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 24,865
Jon, how about setting up a paypal donation link to the foundation? I think my wife did that once for an organization, and it didn't seem too hard. That way if someone who was only temporarily obsessed with figs wanted to impulsively contribute financially to the effort it would be easy and user friendly.

Subject: No Abbreviations... Please Replies: 71
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 3,255
Hi, I don't write in too often, but have been a contributing member here for a little while. I felt that I would weigh in on this thread with my opinion.

I think that "no abbreviations..." is extreme, however I think that at least within each thread, if not within each post to the thread, the full name should be spelled out at least once. It is not that big a deal in my opinion, and it seems to me to be a courtesy to those who will read the thread/post. I don't see anything wrong with courteous. :)

On another note, I've been really busy with work and the garden lately, but soon I will be posting some pictures of the figs as they ripen (both dark and light, I ain't prejudiced.) I am also anxious to share pictures of last years and this years seedlings. Last year I started some with unknown pollen parent on Panache, and this year I started a couple that I had made the cross using some local hardy females and one of the caprifigs developed in Ira Condit's breeding program. I'll start separate threads when I get around to sharing those pictures.

Subject: A couple of bad days Replies: 22
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,227
Heartfelt thanks to all of you who have been supportive over this little bit of bad luck I've had.

I haven't had a chance to respond until now, since it is close to school starting and I have a lot left to get the building ready, stripping the Gym/Cafeteria floor is my last project, so I had to spend 8 hours on that today. I did go up to see if the culprit came back this morning. I woke up at 1:00 after getting to sleep at 9:00, about three hours less sleep than I need to be rested. I got up to the area of the school (which is in a downtown salt lake area, all the immediate neighbors are office buildings, and condos, but to the west where the bad guy went, there are a few older appartment buildings that might be where he took the plants.) at around 2:00 am. Since the guy had stolen things both Monday and Tuesday mornings around 2:30-3:00 am, I thought he might come back this morning around that time and pry up some or all of the sunken pot figs that are submerged to ground level in 5 gallon pots. I even thought he might bring a friend and get the sunken 30 gallon garbage can that I have a dwarf banana in. But, after watching from the shadows accross the street from 2 until almost 4, he didn't show up. So, I went and started watering the in ground plants and the lawn before my helper showed up at 8 and I started the stripping of the floor. I managed to keep a good attitude all day and so it wasn't so bad.

The varieties he took were: 2 - of this years rooted cuttings of a local tree that is a lot like if not the same as Hardy Chicago, another one was Atreano (burnt ridge nursery), a Nazarti and a Marylane from in ground trees at the school and a Maslin's Edible Variant rooted from this years UC Davis order. I have other copies of all of these plants already, the ones stolen were either going to be sold to raise money for the school, or given to some student's to grow at their homes. Although I deeply appreciate the sentiment that DesertDance expressed, I don't need any replacement cuttings for these plants. At this point I will just write it off as a run of bad luck, hope he doesn't come back tomorrow early morning (or ever again), and see what happens. I hope to recover the plants by luck someday, but I won't waste sleep over it. I am having my evening shift cleaning guy leave some lights on and a radio on in the room that has the potted figs outside of its window tonight.

Jon, I have already walked and driven the area within that time frame, and haven't seen the plants yet, I will continue to do so, he might be hiding them‌ in his apartment for a few days and then he might put them on a balcony or something. An interesting thing I found out, while walking around the neighborhood yesterday, there is an older two story appartment building that has offices on the first floor, one of which is for a sort of new-age, holistic type magazine, and they had a potted tree they kept outside their fenced area, between the sidewalk and the street that they called "The Giving Tree" I don't know what kind it is. They would always put some food and clean used clothes and books out on a flat rock beside it with the sign saying take a gift or leave a gift or something like that. So, when I walked past there yesteday, I saw flyers up all around the gardens that said "Please bring back the Giving Tree" on them. I am betting since it is about an 8 minute walk from the school I work at, the guy who took the fig plants from us, took this tree from these nice holistic folks. He is really racking up the bad karma, and I feel sorry for him when I really think about it.

I will let you all know if anything is missing tomorrow when I go in. And thanks again for all your supportiveness.

Subject: A couple of bad days Replies: 22
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,227
Yesterday was a REALLY bad Monday. When I first got to work a little before 7:00 I was looking at the fig plantation in front of the school building and I noticed that some landscape border concrete blocks had been stolen. I looked at some poor quality grainy from a distance videos from my security cameras and found that someone was out stealing them at around 3 in the morning. Oh well, I thought, no really big deal but kinda strange. The rest of yesterday was one problem after another all day. So, when I went into work today I was hoping for a trouble free day of stripping floors. No such luck. When I did my little morning tour of the figs and raised beds to water them, I soon noticed that some potted figs I had in one area by the raised beds were gone. Then I noticed some were gone from another area. In all, I had 7 fig trees of various varieties taken. Also one pomegranate plant, two shovels,  a rake, and various rocks that I had dug out when planting trees and used to break the force of the hose stream, so that is how I knew the rocks were taken. I looked at the videos, and it was the same guy, at about the same time, between 2 and 3 am, this time with a shopping cart.  He loaded up the cart, took it away for less than 10 minutes and came back for another load. He took lots of rocks, the 8 plants and various other things that weren't nailed down.

Tonight, I will be going into work at around 1:30 am, meeting a co-worker and doing a "stake out" to see if he comes again and then follow him on his less than five minute walk to where he took the fig plants. I want them back!

Wish me luck!

Subject: Visit with Bluesguy and the “A” Street Unknown Replies: 14
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 950
I have a couple of Kadota 1 (DFIC 0066 from NCGR in Davis, CA) and it seems different to me than the "A Street" fig. The trees are young, but so are several of the ones from A street. Anyway, maybe the Kadota 1 fig is not the same as other Kadota figs, I don't know.

Subject: What Can You Tell Me About LSU Gold? Replies: 25
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,877
I care for an LSU Gold that I got from Almost Eden in a four inch pot. It had about 4" of growth off the rooted cutting. Got it in late summer of 2009, kept it inside that winter and set it out spring of 2010. It is now around 12' high. I think this clone is a fast grower. The second year in the ground (last summer) it made 8 main crop figs. This year it made 6 large brebas. They weren't as good as the main crop. It was really juicy and sweet with a pleasant figgy with melon tones flavor. This year, it has over 30 large fruits, most of which are approaching the 'resting' size that they hold for so long before they resume growing and ripen.
The fruits, breba and main crop were somewhat flattened, close to spherical and were much larger than a golfball, almost tennis ball size. They ripen yellow on the outside, and a light caramel to clear on the inside. I liked the taste of the main crop last year, but wasn't too happy with the brebas this year so far.

Subject: Unknown dark fig, ID please Replies: 10
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 995
I forgot to mention, the fig shown is a breba fig.

Subject: Grafting onto smyrna type Replies: 3
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 689
here are a few more pictures of the grafts. The full tree picture shows the oldest graft from last year. It is the variety that I posted about asking for an ID today. It is a great early ripening, really hardy dark fig. The other varieties can be determined by hovering over the pictures. There are two grafts of Battaglia Green, one of Excell, one of Enderude (not pictured), one of Texas BA1, One of Atreano (not pictured this time) and two of Hardy Chicago (not pictured) in addition to the Unknown Dark.

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Subject: Unknown dark fig, ID please Replies: 10
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 995
I am hoping that someone can ID this unknown dark fig I found here in Salt Lake City. I found it two years ago and even the extremely cold winter we had before the last one didn't do any damage to this tree. It is completely unprotected. It tasted really good for a dark fig that is.

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Subject: This morning's pickings Replies: 2
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 498
After having been out of town for 10 days, when I checked the trees at the school I work for, there were these breba figs. Most of them (except the Marylane) were over ripe. They are from left to right top row: Stella (from Burnt Ridge Nursery), Marylane (from Almost Eden), and Hardy Chicago (from Edible Landscaping). The bottom row are all Atreano from Burnt Ridge Nursery. This is the third season these plants have been in ground. They all tasted wonderful, but especially the light colored Marylane. I think light colored figs are the best!

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Subject: Grafting onto smyrna type Replies: 3
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 689
About 5 years ago, as I was getting into figs, I found a tree that I called Center Street, because that is where it was. I got starts from it, and planted one at work, one at home and many in pots. Well, last year when I did some pollination experiments, I found conclusively that it is a smyrna type. It had always dropped its figs every year but I thought it was too dry or too hot or something. Then, when I pollinated one each on the ingrounds at work and at home, they ripened nicely. I have started some of the seeds since the pollen parent was a persistent caprifig.

But, late last summer after coming to this conclusion, I decided to keep the in-ground at work, and graft several other varieties to it. I tried four grafts then, and only one survived. It is from an unknown tree very similar to Hardy Chicago. Then this year I have put over 10 graft attempts onto it. Several have taken place. Pictured are the graft from last august , the first one from this year to take off and one that is just starting to grow.

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Subject: summer cuttings of celeste Replies: 4
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 521
Ok, the cuttings are all gone now. Thanks for the responses!

Subject: summer cuttings of celeste Replies: 4
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 521
I just trimmed my father in law's celeste tree. I only see it once in summer and once around christmas. Although it isn't the best time of year to take cuttings, if anyone is interested in trying to root some of these let me know.

It is amazing to me how differently they grow in Maryland than they do at home in Salt Lake. They really seem to like the humidity

Sorry, I am having trouble posting since I am out of town, I took only my android tablet, and I had to find a picture editing app. Then it needed to update its firmware, etc.

So,  below are pictures before and after and the range of cuttings I thought might be viable. I am keeping  a few of the cuttings, but if anyone wants some, let me know.

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Subject: Your experience -- Highest quality plants via mailorder Replies: 20
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,543
In addition to some already mentioned I got good fig plants from: Almost Eden Nursery and Burnt Ridge Nursery.

Subject: Looking for Help from California Fig People Replies: 4
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 688
Thanks Sue. Here is an address for a grower of caprifigs in Orosi. Maybe they would ship you some.

Butler Ranches
15046 Ave 438
Orosi, CA 93647-9622

As for the question of interstate shipping, the fig wasp is a beneficial pollinator like the honey bee
is. I recieved the following from the top entomologist for USDA:

Dear Mr. King,

No permit would be required from the USDA to bring the fig wasps from
California to Utah.  The careful distinction that we make is to refer to
the movement from CA to UT as "interstate transport" rather than import.
Import is only for entering into the US.
I hope this answers any questions you may have.  Please feel free to
contact me.


Wayne Wehling
Senior Entomologist

However, growers including Howard might be afraid to get in trouble, and without a lot of work it might be difficult to convince them to ship them to Utah. Even though who they would go to if they went to get direction on this subject would ultimately be Wayne Wehling. They might not want to go to the trouble to do the research I have and get the email from the "authority" that states clearly that no USDA permit is required.

Anyway, I may have to drive out next year and get some if there is no one who is willing/able to help this year.


Subject: Looking for Help from California Fig People Replies: 4
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 688
I am hoping that someone in California can/will help me. I want to get one or two dozen Profichi figs from a caprifig grower out there. There are at least two old fig trees here in Salt Lake that are smyrna type, and I would love to hang some baskets of wasp filled profichi figs in them in June to get them to ripen the hundreds of figs that they normally drop every year.

I really hope someone out there in California will help me this year. I will gladly pay for your time, the cost of the profichi figs and the shipping. I know there are caprifig growers that serve the Calmyrna growers in a few areas of California, it seems like it should be possible to find them and get a few dozen of the pollen and wasp filled figs sometime in June.

Please let me know if you are willing and able to help me with this project. I won't have the time to drive out there this year.

You can either reply to this thread of PM me.


Subject: fig growers who smoke Replies: 8
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 932
I am also interested in a few seeds, I will send you a message. Thanks!

Subject: Long Fiber Sphagnum Moss - 6 Cubic Feet 56% off only $39 now Replies: 23
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 3,016
I got mine too. It looks like great moss. Better than the last bail I got, which was a larger bail at about the same per cubic foot cost. It had dark areas and roots and sticks in it more than this. Thanks for the tip!

Subject: Seedlings and Cuttings Replies: 13
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,513
Some of you might be interested in the seedlings I started back in October of 2009. I planted them in a row during the summer of 2010, and after being frozen to the ground they all grew back from the roots and are around 4 feet tall. I have them in a bed about 20' long with 2rows. They might all be caprifigs, or smyrna figs or late ripening figs or not very good common figs, but I am still having fun growing them. I may use the roots of the  undesirables to make some multi variety grafted trees.

The first picture the seeding bed is on the left with some potted named variety figs on the right. The second picture has the seedling bed in the middle, and you can see both in ground and potted seeds to the left and right of it.

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Subject: LSU Gold first fig. Replies: 5
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 785
These pictures are of the very first LSU Gold fig I have harvested. It is shown with a small specimen of Hardy Chicago. The LSUG plant is finishing its 2nd summer in the ground. It was a 4" pot plant from Almost Eden before that. It is now 7 to 8 feet high with lots of large lateral branches. It has about 5 more that will almost certainly ripen.

Its fun to get even incremental larger and more diverse harvests here in my 4th year of growing figs.

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Subject: Fig Breeding Replies: 5
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,261
Just thought I would check in with some pictures of the first pollinated fig to have ripened. It is a Hardy Chicago from EL in its second year in the ground. It has made maybe 40 fruits this year, and about 6 have ripened nicely with more in process.

These pictures are of the pollinated one and one I had left alone. The pollinated fig is the one with the longer more tapering neck before the stem. I washed the pulp and got about 50+ seeds that sank in the water. I didn't try washing the pulp from an unpollinated one, because I wanted to eat it instead so I don't know if it's seeds would have sunk or floated.

I haven't tried germinating them yet, I will wait and see if I get more seeds from other figs before I set that system up.

Thanks to all of you on this forum for inspiring me to learn more about these plants/fruit.

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Subject: Awe inspiring figs Replies: 1
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 509
I just thought I would check in with a thought that I have already shared a year or two ago with those that were reading then, but there are a lot of new members who might not have read it.

Given that figs are propagated thru stem cuttings, and there is some body of evidence that figs were the first "domesticated plant" , giving rise to agriculture, it is possible that some of the heirloom figs that we all grow, maybe say Hardy Chicago or Violette de Bordeaux, might have sprouted from seeds sometime in pre-Mesopotamian Middle East, and moved over to the Mediterranean and subsequently to us. Think about it. You may be growing (or soon be growing) a plant that came from a seed over 4,000 years ago!

I just like to ponder that and I bet some of you other gracious forum members might appreciate it too.

I plan to send some picture updates of plants/fruit soon.
Any other members in Utah yet?

Subject: Fig Breeding Replies: 5
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,261
Just used the pollen that fell off when I tapped it over a piece of paper. I had three other figs besides the one pictured on the 2nd year cutting. I got about 1/8 of a teaspoon from the 4 figs together.

Subject: Fig Breeding Replies: 5
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,261
I started my fig breeding program today. I took pollen from the fig pictured, which is called "Enderud--An edible caprifig with very good flavor from the Riverside, CA program. Named for Julius E. Enderud, one of the researchers. Carried on the UCR Davis inventory as 228-20." I have read elsewhere that it was one of the figs Condit favored when breeding for common figs.

The four plants I put the pollen into two figs each were Hardy Chicago(EL) and three local unknown varieties which have demonstrated hardiness here in Salt Lake. One is a white, one is a small black and the other is small bronze figs. Anyway, the pollen was put in today, and so it will be a while before I know what happens...

I thought everyone would enjoy the pictures of the edible caprifig. It was about 2 inches or slightly longer, and it had a good though crunchy taste. I think it has ripe seeds, and I might try to germinate them too, not sure what the chances are of common figs though from a selfing of a caprifig. Anyone else know?

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Subject: Identify this fig, and win Replies: 49
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 2,108

Subject: Selling UC Davis Cuttings Replies: 33
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 2,547
Jon, I did check out the Peach Cuttings this person is offering, and I noticed that he had misinformation in the listing. He says "Cuttings are used to grow  new plants." and while that is true for Fig and some other cuttings, it is false for plants like Peaches. The peach tree cuttings can be successfully grafted onto living root stock, but will not grow roots well on their own. So, it appears that what we have here is a person that is Greedy and Ignorant. Unfortunately this type of person is all too common in our world today. I wish we could do something about it, but I don't know what.

Subject: UcDavis Order Recieved Replies: 30
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,941
I received mine today too. It is great to get them so early, last year I waited quite a bit longer and started to get worried. I really didn't expect them this early, but was glad to see them. I also got some Mulberry, Pomegranate and Peach scion along with the fig cuttings. Lots of fun!! Good luck to all the forum members that haven't got theirs yet, and even if you are towards the end of the shipping, it is worth the wait, as I found out last year.

Subject: He's back at it again Replies: 105
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 9,224
I was thinking about these auctions for "dormant cuttings" and realized that it is too early for any cuttings to truly be from a tree in full dormancy (which I think is when it is best to take cuttings). The only way I can think of to get "dormant cuttings" this time of year would be to cut them and let the cuttings drop their leaves

Does any one else think it odd that dormant cuttings are available when a lot of my plants in Utah are still making green growth?

Subject: A visitor on a fig leaf Replies: 8
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,087
I thought some of you might enjoy this picture I got of a visitor on one of my fig plants.

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Subject: A Big Fig Leaf Replies: 5
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 947
Great idea Martin!

Here are some of the bigger leaves I have. The first two pics are of a leaf on LSU Gold. The second two pics are from a Marylane that grew over 5 feet of stem this year. The last picture is from an Atreano.

Thanks for starting this post.

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Subject: fruit gardener magazine Replies: 1
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 670

Subject: This fig variety is...? Replies: 1
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 452
It would probably help to see the inside of a couple of those figs. What color are they inside?

Subject: Profichi figs Replies: 1
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 791
I am wondering if anyone living in California might be interested in helping me find a grower of caprifigs, so that I might purchase some of the Profichi crop in June.

A person I have met has a tree he got from a cutting in Crete, and the tree he cut it from produced excellent figs. The tree he has here in Salt Lake gets many figs started, but doesn't ripen even one. They all drop. It seems like a few profichi figs hung in the tree might make a difference, but the closest place to here that they grow them is in the areas of California that seldom freeze. I did find the name for one grower near Orosi California but I am hoping to get addresses or email addresses.

Thanks if you can help.

Subject: Anybody Still Waiting on UC Davis? Replies: 42
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 2,152
I don't think they fill the orders in the order that they are received. I noticed that at least one forum member who reported ordering in late November or early December received theirs in the middle of March. I ordered mine in early September and received mine the last day of March.

It looks like Ken, ordering in  October still hasn't got his yet either.

I wonder how they do decide the sequence of filling orders?

That said, it certainly is a great resource for all of us and I am very thankful. I plan to breed figs to get more cold tolerant early ripening varieties, so having now received several of the persistent caprifigs that Condit used in his breeding, I will try crossing them with some early ripening/cold hardy varieties. This year if I get some caprifigs with pollen!

I did get the "Capri Q" which they appear to have renamed "Orosi Green". The cuttings are doing well so far, so if you don't get any, let me know and I likely can spare one.

Subject: Orosi Green...? Replies: 3
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 731
I got my order from NCGS at UCDavis yesterday. I was really lucky and got almost everything I ordered.

However, the number DFIC0126 that I ordered and that is named "Capri Q" on the listing at their website came labeled with the name "Orosi Green". It has the same number, but a different name. Has anyone heard of Orosi Green? I wonder if it is the same plant renamed.

Subject: Getting worried about UC Davis order... Replies: 20
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,515
I got my email with tracking number today. It says it will be shipped tomorrow (Monday the 29th).

I guess I should not have worried. Now I hope that all 33 varieties of figs and 6 varieties of plumcots arrive. I guess I will be ok if some aren't available.

Subject: Getting worried about UC Davis order... Replies: 20
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,515
Ok, so I'm impatient. I decided after 5 days of no response from Prins to write again. This time I included John Preece as well as the "OrderNCGR..." addresses in my email.

I wrote this email at around 7:00 MDT, which was around 6 out in California. Imagine my surprise when about 10 minutes later I got a response from Mr Preece. He informed me that things are busy, and if I hadn't received my order within 2 weeks to write back to him.

So, it looks like they have a couple more weeks of orders to fill. I just got nervous (jealous) when I heard others were getting theirs.

Subject: Getting worried about UC Davis order... Replies: 20
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,515
I have no choice but to wait. I will remain positive and hopeful. I had just thought that by ordering earlier, I would have had my order filled prior to those who ordered later. I just hope that they have reserved the varieties that I had ordered in early Sept. and that they don't run out because they used them to fill orders that they got over two months later.

Anyway, thanks Tom and Jason for the reassurances.

Subject: Getting worried about UC Davis order... Replies: 20
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,515
In another thread folks are sharing that they have either heard from and/or received their orders from NCGR at UC Davis.

I got concerned, wrote into that thread and found that folks that had got their orders ordered after me. I placed an order on September 8th, sending my email to a Ms Robards (the website at that time said to send orders to her) and received a confirmation number the very next day from her.

I decided to write to her, politely asking about the status of the order. Then I wondered if she was still there, and looked at the NCGR at UC Davis website only to NOT find her listed on the "People" page any longer. So, I have written to B. Prins asking him politely for the status of my order.

The worry comes in when I think that maybe MY order got lost in the transition when Ms. Robards left.

If that happened then perhaps I will have to wait another year, and thereby pay a penalty for not ordering later.


Subject: UCDavis Shipments Replies: 32
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,750
I am curious about when you who have received either tracking info and/or cuttings already placed your orders? Would you mind sharing please? I placed my order on Sept. 8th and got my confirmation number emailed back on Sept. 9th.

I imagine those who have already heard placed their orders earlier?


Subject: An Earlier Start On Driveway Replies: 21
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,166
Thats great news Martin! I have been putting some plants out for a few hours at a time when the sun is shining and the temperatures are over 45. The plants I have been putting out haven't been asleep though, they are seedlings and cuttings that I have been keeping growing inside by windows. I will likely start getting my potted dormant ones out within the next week or two at most. I hope yours wake up happy!

Subject: Seedlings and Cuttings Replies: 13
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,513
Martin:  At least one from Jon's collection that was a seedling he grew he named "Raspberry Latte".

I got a Raspberry Latte from Jon, even though I don't know how cold hardy it will be. I may have to keep it in a pot.

Nelson: Thanks for sharing the pictures of your seedling. I still
have quite a few seeds from the Panache fig if you or anyone wants to try some more. It would be fun to see what other areas and luck do with seeds off of the same tree.

I know that not all of the 25 seedlings I have will turn out to be actual fruit producing, and tolerant of our winters. It may be that none of them will. But it is fun watching them grow, and thinking that while some of the figs we grow may have started as seeds hundreds or even thousands of years ago, these seedlings are brand new. I also know that it could take five years or even more maybe to determine what each plant will do. I have read that this time can be shortened by grafting part of the seedling onto an older plant. I plan to try this and see how long it takes to see if it makes figs. I will let everyone on this forum know as I go along.

Subject: Seedlings and Cuttings Replies: 13
Posted By: bluesguy Views: 1,513
I edited the posting, and added pictures of some seedlings 24 days after the first pictures posted.


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