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Subject: Who's tried King or Desert King in the South? Replies: 16
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i have 2 desert kings, both froze to the ground  along with all my other figs last year.  they're growing nicely now, and i plan on protecting them well enough this winter to see if i get brebas next year.


Subject: my sickly black madiera Replies: 42
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got a black madiera that was purchased and sent to me by a good friend this spring.  and it has been my only fig that hasn't grown.  not at all.  i have tried everything with this plant.  i don't dare repot it, because i'm afraid the roots are fragile.   any ideas are welcome.  what can i do to get this sickly thing growing?

Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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look under my thread for "planting natalina", you'll see exactly how i plant my figs.  basically, for each tree i'm using 15 gallons of potting soil.  it's not your typical potting soil, it's a cheap bulk mix, and i am mixing a little sand with that as well.   i try to plant 3 figs a week these days. 

my problem out here is high ph.  even my water's ph is too high.  lots of natural lime here.  so i try to mix a nice acid plant medium, and i give them frequent feedings of granular fertilizer.  if i were living here, they'd be twice the size, since i could keep them sprayed with micros and use superthrive, etc.  but this is the best i can do from long distance.

i'm hoping to get permanently moved out here next year, so i'll be able to really tend to my plants.  i also have 20 varieties of muscadine grape, and i'm looking to expand my grape plantings.

i'll put up some pics when i get everything cleaned up out here.  right now, i'm just trying to keep everything alive.  i water it, i feed it, if it grows, it grows.   so far i've been reasonably lucky.

Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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i'm going to be looking to work here for 3 to 6 months on assignment, hoping to start next week.  my big project out here is my video sudio, and i'm hoping to be production ready in 3 months (if i get the assignment here).  otherwise, this is all 140 miles from my house in tampa bay, which is just too far to drive.  that's why the place looks so untidy... 


Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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and of course, my oldest fig, now it it's second year.  bought as a brown turkey, i have no idea what it really is.  my lsu purple put out virtually identical fruit last year.  i'm hoping to get a good identification on this tree this year.



Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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a quick glance down fig row (i've got about 3 rows like this now, and i expect to run out of room after a fourth.)  then i can start culling the ones that aren't productive :).



Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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lsu giant celeste, on the way to living up to its name :).




Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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mary lane seedless, shooting for the sky :).



Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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my sals corleone,  in it's first year.  lots of figs, and i think sals does like it hot :).



Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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this is an alma that was a 3 node cutting 3 months ago.  i don't know why it bushes, but the mother plant is doing the same thing (just on a larger scale).  i'm very impressed with the way this one has grown.



Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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now here's brogliotto nero.  bought from my good friend at figsnstuff last year, he sold it with the caution that it had fmv.  it was a cutting in a cup, and it doesn't look like the fmv did much to deter it :).




Subject: figs liking it in florida Replies: 15
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first, here's bellecare nero.  this one struggled badly after the freeze, but it's recovered well.  i still have 4 months left to grow :)



Subject: Black Unknown in ground Replies: 13
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boy i got to say that sucker is loaded with figs :).


Subject: The Name Game Replies: 3
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i would agree that anyone who generates new names does fig collectors a disservice. the only exception, of course, is when there is a new variety.


Subject: Two must-have figs for the South Replies: 11
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i wouldn't think of leaving green ischia out of the mix :).


Subject: Atreano Main Crop Replies: 31
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i think a lot of my figs aren't suited to hot florida weather.  of course, the proof is in the quality and quantity of the fruit.


Subject: Atreano Main Crop Replies: 31
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my 1st year atreano.  only 1 fig so far, and it's green.

Subject: Willis Italian Everbearing??? Replies: 4
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tim, i also have it but it's one of my figs that's lagging in growth.  only my texas everbearing from willis is doing great, but the conandria is starting to kick into grown mode.

after the condition of my last order from willis (and i promise there will never be another) i have absolutely zero confidence in them.  i really wish i'd taken pics of the plants i got from them right when i recieved them, and everyone who saw them would at least know what i got for my hard earned money.

i'll be able to compare with you going forward.  maybe in another month i'll have enough growth on it to make an intelligent comparison.  heck, how do we even know we both recieved the same fig?


Subject: here we go planting natalina :). Replies: 13
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i used drip irrigation, fertilizer and roundup.  speaking of the latter, it works well if you put it on the grass with a paintbrush instead of a sprayer.  that way there's no danger of overspray.  i'm getting incredible growth out of most of my plants.  i leave for a week and come back and if not for the nametag, i wouldn't know which plant it is.  they're flat out putting it on.

even most of my fmv plants have taken off.  i think out of about 91 figs i've got 6 that aren't just tearing it up.

now if i was living here and had the time, i could really be nailing them with micronutrient spray, etc.  then we'd really see some growth.   i have to admit that i am very pleased with the way it's going overall.

nelson, i bought this plant from our good friend gorgi on ebay last year.  it froze below the ground (here is a pic of it at 03/31/10...  and only now is really hitting its stride.

Subject: here we go planting natalina :). Replies: 13
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a little update on this thread.  this is today's pic. :).  that's a 5 gallon bucket for perspective.

Subject: Atreano Main Crop Replies: 31
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my atreano has gotten itself well established in it's first year in the ground.  has 4 or 5 figs on it so far, hoping for more.. will post pics when i get up the gumption to take pics and load them up.    i was figuring on the 2nd year to evaluate.


Subject: On Naming Figs Replies: 8
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naming figs is something too many people have done too much of.


Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
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my sal's c is also making figs.  i'll try to post next week or so and we can compare pics.  i have to say that sals c is a very agressive grower.

i've noticed that my figs with stella type leaves just don't like the hot sun here in florida.  i am thinking when it gets a little less intense in september and october i'll get better growth.   it's not that they aren't growing, it's just that the other type of leaves (like sal's c) are better growing.  not sure what to make of this observation.

Subject: Sultane Cutting finally growing Replies: 6
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tim you got that one for sure.  all you need is a little weak fertilizer and you'll be repotting in no time


Subject: watering every day Replies: 2
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i just did a count on my fig trees.  i have a total of 87 in the ground, and another 4 to plant tommorrow, which brings me to 91 (after tommorrow).  there are some duplicate varieties, but i've got at least 60 varieties :).  i have 5 more varieties in my little nursery area ready to go into the ground next week.  my goal this year is 100 trees :)


Subject: watering every day Replies: 2
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i decided to try watering every day, since some of my figs were looking fmvish.  they came up from the roots after being frozen to the ground, and then sort of sat there.  the new cuttings i put out were growing slowly. 

the happy news is the watering daily has made a huge difference :).  most of the ones with lousy growth are now zooming along.  from now on, it's 99 minutes of drip irrigation every day. 

i've got little figs on several varieties now.  if the critters don't get them, i'll have the chance to do a lot of taste testing this year.  it's amazing how much growth you can get on a 3 node cutting in just a few months.

Subject: finally, it's raining! Replies: 2
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looks like my drought is over :).  i've been away for 5 days working, but we have obviously had a lot of rain, and i hear gentle thunder in the background.  the plants are looking much better too :).  it's so nice to see everything so green.  i was really getting worried there for a bit.  i'm still watering every day.  i want to get good strong root systems to be ready for the winter.


Subject: Super Hot Weather...having to repot Replies: 20
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this is compounded by the fact that i have lots of rust/dissolved solids in my water, which tends to plug up my dripper flags.  so you've got to keep after the system to keep it going.  looking at running all my water through a catalyst media for iron removal.  i need to have my water analyzed by the ag agents so i can figure out the best course of action.   of course, all this is tough to do when you're working 60-70 hrs a week 120 miles away. 

basically, my water sucks compared to rain :).

any failures you don't catch fairly quickly = dead plants, especially since mine are pretty much all under a year in the field.  last year we had bountiful rain.  this year is another story.

Subject: Super Hot Weather...having to repot Replies: 20
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yep a couple of days ago i left gainesville after checking my drip system yet again, because it's so dry it will kill anything that isn't getting water.  i drive through ocala and it's raining so hard i have to slow to 20 mph on the interstate becuase i can't see more than a few feet.   i wish it would rain every day for the next 3 months.  this is killing me, or trying to kill my figs :(.


Subject: Super Hot Weather...having to repot Replies: 20
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i'm having a full on drought.  seems like i'm just not getting any of those scattered thunderstroms.  frustrating when you see it thundering/raining all around you, yet you go a couple of weeks with no water.  i guess that's why i got drip, but i'd sure love a good hard rain.


Subject: Improved Celeste Or not So Improved?? Replies: 5
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i think hermansur has sold some "no drop celeste" cuttings on ebay.  i wonder if that's an issue with celeste more than other figs?


Subject: Super Hot Weather...having to repot Replies: 20
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i have just switched to everyday watering.  i don't remember the sun being so intense, but a lot of my figs have stopped growing in this heat.  i figure water is the answer.


Subject: USDA / UC Davis DNA tests Replies: 11
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holy smokes, that's some serious reading :).


Subject: Irrigation system for planted trees? Replies: 14
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i've probably got 200 trees on my drip system.  there's just no way i could tend to them by hand.  it's all automated.  i only look at drip as a way to keep them growing between rains. 

you got city or well water?  if your water has deposits, i highly recommend the little flag drippers.  i use 1 gph drippers and run them for 99 minutes 3 x a week.

Subject: watering schedule Replies: 2
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i mulch my plants heavily with pine bark and water 3 times a week in the summer by drip.  of course, mine are in the ground.  despite the watering, it's amazing how things jump after a good rain.

i'd pack my plants close together and mulch the top of the pots if i were you, as well as using drip.



Subject: Figlets Starting to Form in New England Replies: 6
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not the first sign of a fig yet here in florida.  but i'll probably have until december to harvest, so i ain't sweating it, not as long as those babies keep growing. 

on the other hand, we've been having a dry year, and while drip irrigation  helps, i'd sure like to have a nice rainy season.

Subject: Snake tale Replies: 19
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a super cheap possum trap is to take a set of trailer steps and put them up to a garbage can with a few scraps in it.    mr possum climbs up the the steps and jumps in to eat, but then he can't get out.  put the lid on, tape it, and then you can take him somewhere that he's not going to bother you again before you release him :).


Subject: Snake tale Replies: 19
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very cool ken.  i hate it when people kill wildlife out of ignorance.  it's great that you had such understanding. 

rather than trying to kill raccoons and possums, i'm just going to go with barriers and i'll try to grow more.  they were here long before i was, and damned if i'm going to hurt them.

Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
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speaking of florida bugs, have you ever had a yellow deerfly attack?  last week i was out at the farm, and the darndest thing happened.  i got bit by a deerfly.  when this happens, it's just one, you try to smack her (i assume it's a female) or she gets enough blood and leaves you alone.  anyway, i get bit again, and again.  soon i am smacking deerflies and i bet i probably killed 20... but i never came close to running them off.  i ended up getting bit so many times that i was the one who ran away.  they were constantly bumping into me in so many numbers i couldn't keep track of them.  i have seen plenty of mosquitos down here, and even bad swarms of them.  but a deerfly swarm?  i would have thought this impossible until last week.  bit up and wisened today :).

yes, and those bites hurt like hell!

Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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robert, the upside to this is that i didn't get any frost until december, and my figs ripened in oct/nov.  by the time i got freezing weather, i had picked every fig.  the one fig that i had this time last year (not a marseilleses black) is way ahead of where it was at this time last year.  i'll see if it produces earlier this time around.

i put my marseilles black out last year in november.  it had only time to freeze to the ground and barely survived.  i did pinch the top and it's starting to branch now.


Subject: osborne's prolific Replies: 4
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mine seems to be doing well, it's sure growing prolifically.  the question, of course, is whether i'll get any decent figs off it.


Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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my ag agent told me fig trees would grow as bushes here, which freeze to the ground every year and then grow back.  looks to me as though he knew exactly what he was talking about.

this year, i'm going to make a big effort to protect the wood 6 inches above the ground, so it's not frozen so far back.

Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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yes, take a tree that you have inside in a pot growing  in the 70's, and set it out when temps hit 17 degrees.  then let's talk about how cold hardy it is :).


Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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herman, how good are those figs on a scale of 1-10?


Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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herman, i know it's hard to accept, but the temperature flucuations here are extreme.  it will be 70's, then in the teens, then 70's, then in the teens, etc.

this was a new plant, and maybe it will do better this year (it will, because i'm going to protect the hell out of it :)).  all i can tell you is i didn't have a single bit of fig tree survive the winter above the ground.  ko'd the desert king (2 of them) as well.

Subject: osborne's prolific Replies: 4
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has anyone got an osborne's prolific that they're getting good figs from?  i have a little one i got from james robin but it's still a baby. 

if you've got one, how is the flavor of the fig?


Subject: Marseillese Black VS - how cold hardy? Replies: 22
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i have a marseilles black i bought last year, and it doesn't seem to be as willing to branch as some of my other figs.  of couse, it got frozen back to the ground with all my ohter figs.  however, most of my other figs have put out several shoots and are growing more bush like.  not so with ms black, just 1 shoot, but it's growing well.   i did take the tip to encourage branching. 

anyone else notice this growth pattern?

Subject: Does FMV get transmitted to tomatoes and other veggie plants? Replies: 5
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i think the best defense against fmv is just to give your plants the best possible growing conditions.  i bought a plant advertised with fmv on ebay.  today that sucker is a fast growing monster. :).


Subject: Does FMV get transmitted to tomatoes and other veggie plants? Replies: 5
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i don't think the virus itself has actually been isolated, so we don't know that much about it, other than the symptoms in figs.


Subject: what is your favorite fig to eat? Replies: 23
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i am surely gonna give white greek a shot here in florida.


 

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