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Subject: My Dark Portuguese Replies: 11
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i see gators all the time, in fact the wetlands behind me are full of them.  i am planning to fence this place off better.  my one fear at night is stumbling into a gator who's got himself in the wrong place and not seeing him in time.


Subject: vista Replies: 8
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i have a peter's honey i bought last year from willis orchard.  bought as a bareroot in june, set out and given drip irrigation, virtually no growth, just a few leaves.  knocked back to the ground by winter, now it's coming out as a bush and looks to be growing well.

i'll have to be honest, given the poor quality of most of the plants i recieved from willis, i have little faith in that company and i am unsure they've given me the correct varieties.  until i grow them out and they are verified by members here on the forum, i take them all with a grain of salt.  time will tell.

Subject: My Dark Portuguese Replies: 11
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my dark portugese has finally entered fast growth mode.  i bought it late last year and it got nailed this winter, but seems to be recovering nicely.

have you gotten a fig off this one martin?  how was it?

Subject: what is your favorite fig to eat? Replies: 23
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jon, i am so glad you are around that stupid quaranteen thing, which made buying from you prohibitively expensive.  i look forwared to this fall :).


Subject: what is your favorite fig to eat? Replies: 23
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of the figs i got last year (4 types), the best by far was a green ischia. unfortunately, it's one of the few figs i have that's just not taking off this year.  i don't know what it is.  i rooted two cuttings from it, and i have a second one in the ground, my dad has the other farther south (his is exploding with growth).

i have to agree green ischia is a fantastic tasting and highly underrated fig.

Subject: what is your favorite fig to eat? Replies: 23
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heh. anyone know where i can by a white greek :).?


Subject: Fig container design Replies: 12
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drip is the only way to go.  i have a very extensive drip system with 8 zones.  luckily for me, i have a great well, so i can water away :)


Subject: what is your favorite fig to eat? Replies: 23
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i was talking to my good buddy james robin tonite and i asked him this question.  without hesitation he said "o-lee-a!" (this is cajunspeak for hollier).

fortunately, i have one of his holliers (actually 4 now).  i am looking forward to getting figs from most of my trees this year, though they are young.  i've got a long growing season, and they're packing on the vegetative growth now.  

so what is your favorite fig, and why?

Subject: Pinching Why? Replies: 22
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i pinch the tip of a plant if it doesn't have any other branches and is only growing up as a single shoot.  that removes apical dominance and you get it to branch.  i have a long season and i wasn't aware that you could do this to make your fruit ripen more quickly.


Subject: english brown turkey Replies: 6
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actually i also picked up a violetta.  this has been a great year for me growing my collection. :).


Subject: english brown turkey Replies: 6
Posted By: papayamon Views: 803
 

bought from burnt ridge.  my collection +1 = my new collection :).


Subject: english brown turkey Replies: 6
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i'm looking for one, but can't seem to find a nursery that has them.  anyone know of a source? 


Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
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Sal when i get my veggie gardens up and running i've thought about how to deal with those hot summers and still get tomatos.  i'm going to be building my sf garden tabels under a hoophouse frame, then i'm going to mist around the plants for evaporative cooling (supposedly will cut temps 15 degrees or so) to see if i can get them to set fruit year round.  in the winter, of course, i'll put plastic over the frame.  in the heat of summer sun, i'll cover part of the frame with shadecloth.


Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
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[IMG] http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv85/papayamon/plants/Picture321.jpg [/IMG] 

 my sal's fig.   i planted a couple of rooted cuttings, and now i've got 3 sal's plants.  i'm looking for this one to really grow through the summer.  as you can see, my figs grow like bushes after coming back from the winter freeze.



 


Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
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probably i'll just cut them down every year.  to about a foot and heap mulch around them.  i honestly have too many trees for them to get very big.


Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
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nelson what is the correct syntax for posting the link?


Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
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sal i've got too much stuff to cover it.  so they freeze to the ground and come back.   next year i hope to protect better.  the freeze really did do some damage to some of my figs, though it didn't kill any of them.  most just shook it right off and are growing like mad.   quite possible that some of them aren't well suited for my conditions.  time will tell.

my atreano is probably turning in the most impressive performance considering that it was only a small starter plant i put out in late fall, then it got zapped to the ground by the freeze.  i bet that tree hits 6 feet this year.

 
<a href="http://s672.photobucket.com/albums/vv85/papayamon/plants/?action=view&current=Picture315.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv85/papayamon/plants/Picture315.jpg" border="0" alt="atreano fig"></a>

Subject: MBVS Update Pics Replies: 16
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i'm planning to build square foot garden raised beds in the next couple of weeks.  they aren't cheap, but production and ease of care will make it worthwhile.  probably my tables will be 3 feet off the ground, 2.5 feet wide x 12 feet long, 12 inches deep.  still looking for a good source of vermiculite.


Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
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sal, i do have to contend with a freeze to the ground every year in gainesville.  otherwise, it's a long growing season and it's very hot in the summer.  i only plant outdoors and i use drip irrigation.  i'm sure your plants are much more pampered than mine :).  beautiful garden pics, by the way.  i hope to be posting similar pics when i can get my grounds together better.  i'm working on too many projects at the moment, but starting to get on top of most of them.

Subject: Sal C Pics!!! Update Sal LIkes It HOT? Replies: 65
Posted By: papayamon Views: 3,356
 

sal, my sals c is also zooming for the sky.  also natalina and atreano just love it here in florida :).


Subject: Giant Amber Replies: 1
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i don't know.  i have one myself and will be curious to see how it does.  mine is in the ground and growing moderately.


Subject: spring is in the air Replies: 4
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heh. i wouldn't call it die back.  more like absolute murder.  yes, it goes warm then freezing, warm then freezing.  apparently i'm in one of the colder microclimates in my area. 


Subject: spring is in the air Replies: 4
Posted By: papayamon Views: 544
 
well fig friends, here we go, kicking off my 2nd year of fig growing.  just a few pics to show the progress.....

here is my brown turkey(?) post freeze, pic made on 3/31/10...  and today.

also a pic of my baby natalina on 3/31/10 ... and today.

most of my figs seem to be popping right out.  next year, they'll have frames around with much up about a foot high to get them through the winter better.  i say that now :). 


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Subject: Fig meeting in the Northeast April 25th Replies: 35
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i'll tell you what bass, this is the first i've regretted not living in the northeast.  i would love to come (and bring a trailer) but it's out of the question :).


Subject: 6 Months in the life of a seedling Replies: 12
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that's pretty cool nelson. 


Subject: Hardy Chicago Replies: 8
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in fact, my nataline is red tipped now.


Subject: how often to water when in 1 gallon pots? Replies: 7
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you can get potting soil that holds moister better.  it has a gel additive.


Subject: Mifig4fun? - Oh no! Replies: 11
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i also ordered from willis, and will be eager to see if those varieties are true.  to be honest, i've been very disappointed with the vigor of the plants i got from willis, and i would never order a thing from that company again.


Subject: Hardy Chicago Replies: 8
Posted By: papayamon Views: 993
 

i am seeing redness in the tips of some of my figs that are growing quickly.


Subject: something eating my fig tree leaves!!! Replies: 5
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the biggest insect problem that i've had with figs is grasshoppers.  for some reason, they loved my hardy chicago.  it was stripped clean.  every time it put out a leaf, it got immediately devoured.  it's one of the few figs i've lost.

that poor plant could never get up a head of steam.
 

Subject: Volcano preventing me from getting my figs Replies: 8
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i sold my european stock funds until we see just how this mess unravels.  this could continue for quite some time.

my condolences bass!

Subject: Redish color in new leaf formation Pics Replies: 15
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nice garden.  just beautiful :).


Subject: how close do you plant in ground? Replies: 10
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my blackberries are blooming, the blueberry bushes are loaded, and i've got a few little miscellaneous fruits on my plums, peaches, nectarines and pear trees. my trees are all in their first or second year, so i am not expecting much.  i think i got dorman reds this year, come to think of it.

tommorrow i will be planting more grapes, figs and kiwi.  i'm looking for the new grape release by the university of florida, the southern jewel muscadine.  i've turned over several stones, and have yet to find one.

Subject: Frost Possible Chicago Outlying Area Replies: 44
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martin, the benefit here is i bet you've got some serious bulging muscles from hauling those figs in and out :).


Subject: how close do you plant in ground? Replies: 10
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my strategy there is to grow in ground, mulch heavily and use drip, so even if i do have rkn, it won't (hopefully) be as much as issue.  in much of the deep south, it's unavoidable.  time will tell, but so far i've got nothing except fantastic growth.

that's why you have to grow peaches, pears, plums, etc, grafted on special rootstocks that are nematode resistant for north central florida.   i just bought some kiwi, and according to the ag agents, it's not worthwhile at all to plant that in ground due to nematodes, so i am going to be making some containers for those plants.

after this winter, i'm curious to see if there's a weather pattern change that will give me more chill hours (we certainly got that this year) which should allow me to fruit kiwis and other things.  this is why i broke down and bought the kiwi.

as an aside, my pawpaws still haven't broken buds, though they're very much alive.  i'm not sure what's going on with these, but i'm really hoping they'll fruit.  everything else is coming out in full force.

Subject: My Pingo De Mel Replies: 20
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i'll be very interested to see what kind of figs this plant makes.


Subject: how close do you plant in ground? Replies: 10
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,043
 

i think a more likely infestation would be root knot nematodes, especially being in the deep south with sandy soils.


Subject: how close do you plant in ground? Replies: 10
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i also have these interplanted with a variety of other trees and bushes, though i've got far more figs than anything else.  i just have a little riding mower, so it's easy enough to mow around at this point anyway.  after a couple of years, a tree better yield me some good figs or else it's subject to a bad ending.   that's not a threat or anything :).

it sounds like you've got a lot more land to work with than me.

Subject: Advice for transporting Large fig trees from North to South Replies: 21
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probably i'd package the trees and mail them via ups the day you leave.  they ship bareroot all the time, i've bought even in the dead of summer with good results.  i don't think they let their packages get 120 degrees.


Subject: how close do you plant in ground? Replies: 10
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i've got about a half acre left to plant, all told.  i prefer to keep my trees as bushes, since they are going to get knocked back every year during winter.

i was figuring on protecting maybe the top few inches of wood above the soil with big piles of pine bark, and protecting my breba crop trees with plastic and lights.  (i'm eager to get a dessert king or dauphine next year).  so given this, i was figuring on planting them about 8 feet apart, give or take a foot.  i figure i've got room for another couple hundred trees like this.

the downside is getting some bug that really loves to eat figs.  i'd be putting a lot of food in one place :).

anyone else planting primarily in the ground?

Subject: Lattarula or "Lotta-root-la"? Replies: 15
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my vote for the easiest to root would be hollier.  you can't kill the damn things.  i think i took 8 cuttings, and now i have 8 little holliers. :).


Subject: Coming Out or Winter Storage Replies: 7
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martin, when you move south, your figs can fend for themselves in your yard:).   mine are coming back from the roots now. 

Subject: Congratulation to Nelson Esteves on the birth of his first child Replies: 44
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very nice thread, but i'm so happy my two are grown! they are still sucking $$ though.  somehow i don't think that ever ends.

nelson best wishes to you, and my condolences to your wallet :).

Subject: Nexoe fig variety from Denmark Replies: 3
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just beautiful.  i wonder how it would fare in the hot south?


Subject: Spring 2010 Replies: 14
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bass, i have used the black irrigation tubing from home depot, with the flag drippers (don't get clogged easily)  with a lot of success.  put that sucker on an automatic timer and it's so easy.  i have a few thousand feet of that stuff, works great.


Subject: Some pictures ... and an unknown fig? Replies: 45
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what a fun post :).


Subject: I think I have lost my cuttings Replies: 6
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i've had very good luck transplanting my newly rooted figs to a 1/2 potting soil 1/2 vermiculite mix.  leave them in bright light, no direct sun until they start growing.  when they get a little leggy, then i start giving them 1/4 sun, working my way up to full sun, and watering every few days with very weak soluble fertilizer.

i tried both potting soil and vermiculite by themselves and got extremely poor results.

in my experience, once you loose the new roots on a fig, that's it for that cutting. 

later this year i'm going to give hydroponics a shot.

Subject: what a winter Replies: 6
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first, i been working 72-94 hours a week for the season in nursing.  so i've been working in tampa bay and hoping they made it through.  on the plus side, i been making mad money :).

no wood at all lived above the mulch line. i mean nothing, not even my dessert kings.   i can't remember the one that died but it was really weak going into the winter.  it was either the black marsailles or the black mission.  i also had a few die after planting last year but that's just the way it goes. 

it got my cold weather citrus, all three of those died.  but all in all, the rest of everything else seems to be coming back.  olives, pomegranates, guavas, bananas (i'm very excited that my cold weather bananas didn't die to the ground, the orginal stalks actually made it through this miserable winter. so i should get bananas this year).

there are microclimates in the area.  i'm apparently in a cold one.  it did kill one of my wild cabbage palms too, and those are probably 25 years old.

i mulched everything pretty heavily with pine bark, and that's what i attribute the good survival to.

the year before, my only fig was a brown turkey (though i am wondering if that is really a brown turkey) and it died to the ground but came back like a champ.  so i am going to expect this every year. 

i do have drip irrigation (which really helps) and i'm fertilizing tommorrow.  i expect a wonderful year in fig growth, since this is their second year and they are already coming on like gangbusters :).

Subject: what a winter Replies: 6
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how did you guys fare during this winter?  everything i had, without exception, died to the ground.  the good news is all 50 some of my figs (except one) are sprouting up from the roots.  so i'm relieved. 

on the plus side, i've got about 60 rooted cuttings, including 10 sal's corleone :).

Subject: Mr James Robin Delivers Replies: 21
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all my jr figs ( i think i got about 17 varieties from him.. all are going strong. plus he's just a great guy with a great sense of humor. highly recommended.

 

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