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Subject: Willis Orchard is getting blasted Replies: 3
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as far as i'm concerned, they ripped me off bigtime and i'd never buy another thing from them.  the plants they sold me were in extremely poor condition.  i say this because i bought from several places online, and the worst by far were the willis plants.

Subject: do you eat the skin of your figs? Replies: 9
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i've been doing this with my natalina.  it's got a delicate skin that just goes right down with the rest of the fig.  i keep meaning to take pics but i'm too impulsive.  it's hot out there, i got a fig in my hand, and the next thing i know it's in my stomach :).

what varieties do you eat the skin of?

Subject: the great fig race! Replies: 14
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what about brogliotto nero? (spelling?). 

i'll definitely be here with pics when they start to ripen.   i put time release fertilizer on them and we're having lots of little rains.  i'm hoping some of these get so thick that they survive this winter at 6 to 12 inches above ground so i'm not starting out with only roots again like i did last year.

Subject: the great fig race! Replies: 14
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the lsu giant celeste was purchased from james robin.  it is supposedly the lsu tiger according to his sheet, as i recall (can't find his sheet).  but there are no stripes on the fruit, brown or otherwise.  this is probably my fastest growing tree.  aside from how it's growing up, it's growing out.  so i am not sure if the fruit looks differently because of this verses how it will look in subsequent years.

my bc nero is from some guy on ebay who was selling under the name "figsnstuff" :).  somehow i think we've got the same genetic material.  my nero got knocked so flat this year by the winter, it's only really started to grow and now it's making up for lost time.   i would agree it's a vigorous plant, it just started out terribly this year. 

my marylane is from james robin, no signs of fmv, has fruits but none close to ripe yet.

some of my plants have produced nothing except rapid vegatative growth.  i have 3 black missions and not even any green fruits.  my lsu holliers (got 4 of those) have 1 green fig between all 4 of them.  lucky for me i've got probably till the end of november before the end of the growing season.


Subject: the great fig race! Replies: 14
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now we're talking from 7-15 to 8-14, a total of 30 days.  some trees are slowing down, others are making a sprint for it.  i've got hundreds of figs out there, but i'm not sure how well they'll all ripen :).

still in the lead is brogliotto nero, from 46 to 63 1/2, total growth 17 1/2 inches ... averaging over 1/2 inch per day :).

sal's corleone 39 1/2 to 46 1/2  + 7  inches.

brown turkey (?) 47 to 56, + 9 inches (still very few figs)
lsu giant celeste 43 1/2 to 58 1/2, + 15  inches
mary lane 44 1/2 to 55 1/2 + 11 inches
alma 33 to 45, + 12 inches (few figs)
natalina 36 to 40 1/2, + 4 1/2 inch (not growing anymore, but looks great)
nero (bellecare) 32 to 45 1/2, + 13 1/2 inches

 
i've got several  figs that were too small to bother with when i started this that are now suddenly over waist high.   

Subject: figs all over the garden are ripening. Replies: 8
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,245
 

george i got an lsu improved celeste from james robin, is that an o'rourke?


Subject: Thanks Martin Replies: 4
Posted By: papayamon Views: 540
 

that's impressive nelson.   i've got two sals el from the same plant, theyre' about like yours, but a bit stockier from being outside.


Subject: Violett de Bordeaux vs. Petite Negri or Negronne? Replies: 9
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,650
 

aren't these all the same fig?


Subject: the great fig race! Replies: 14
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,000
 

they never go dormant here, so the flash freezes kill them to the ground every year.  this year i'm heaping woodchips/leaves around them. 


Subject: the great fig race! Replies: 14
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,000
 
you know, not really.  i expect more :).  i probably got the room for about another 125 figs i figure.  the beauty of having all these varieties is they come in at different times, so i should have figs for a long season.  i got the same situation with my blueberries.  i'm still picking blueberries, though it's all about out.  i had them over about 3 1/2 months, i think. 

next year i am going to be better prepared and not let jack frost chop all my trees off at the ground.

Subject: the great fig race! Replies: 14
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,000
 

this is my 2nd year.  i have one tree that's seen 2 winters here.  the rest are only a bit over a year old.  i'll post some pics in a few days.


Subject: the great fig race! Replies: 14
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,000
 
now we're talking from 7-15 to 8-8, a total of 23 days.  the growth is definitely slowing dramatically as the trees are getting covered with figs.


an update... still in the lead is brogliotto nero, from 46 to 59 1/2, total growth 13 1/2 inches

sal's corleone 39 1/2 to 45 1/2  + 6  inches.
brown turkey (?) 47 to 54, + 7 inches (still very few figs)
lsu giant celeste 43 1/2 to 55, + 11 1/2  inches
mary lane 44 1/2 to 51 1/2 + 7 inches
alma 33 to 42, + 9 inches (few figs)
natalina 36 to 40 1/2, + 4 1/2 inch
nero (bellecare) 32 to 43, + 11 inches - coming on late.

i'm sure it will all slow down from here as we head into september.  i just cant wait till the grass stops growing and i can get the lines buried so i can mow easier.  i'm using 8-2-6 time release fertilizer, watering daily with drip.

Subject: i have no willpower Replies: 7
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even my first year cuttings are all making figs now, with the exception of lsu hollier and alma.  i do think those are starting to put tiny figs out at the top, and i should get a crop.  some of my 3 node cuttings have grown to semi-respectable bushes this year.  3 months left in the growing season and they're all cranking right along :).


Subject: i have no willpower Replies: 7
Posted By: papayamon Views: 564
 

i look at myself in the mirror now, and i realize i am a fig crackhead.  the shame!


Subject: i have no willpower Replies: 7
Posted By: papayamon Views: 564
 
martin, it was very sweet and good :).  all i can tell you is i could have sucked down a hundred at one sitting.  as soon as it hit my mouth it was gone.  i'll have to take my time tasting next go around.  

i'll take pics of some of the many more to come.  it's pretty well covered with figs.

Subject: i have no willpower Replies: 7
Posted By: papayamon Views: 564
 
got my first marseilles black fig today.   i was walking back to the house, was going to slice and take a pic.  all of a sudden something came over me before i made it 10 steps away.  i tore it in half with my thumbs.  beautiful red insides!   i sucked it down in about a half second.  wow!  i'm in love :).



Subject: My Hardy Chicago Replies: 3
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i've got a few figlets on your trees now martin.



Subject: Sal Corleone 1st Ripe pic Replies: 7
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,727
 
how was the taste of it?

i'm having the same results from my sals.   the best producer of figs in numbers, though they are still a ways off from ripening.  i've got several planted and they have all grown and are fruiting like yours.

it's hard to believe that it won't fruit next year, since my clone mother came up from the roots after freezing  to the ground.  it's loaded with fruit now.  it's going to freeze to the ground this winter, and why wouldn't it fruit again next year?

Subject: Verdal Longue Pics Replies: 6
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,512
 
sal, how well did the copper spray work?


Subject: Ronde De Bordeaux Airlayer Replies: 20
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,385
 

jsulda, looked at your site.  beautiful work you do :).


Subject: Do├že Replies: 6
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you got some great looking plants nelson :).


Subject: my sickly black madiera Replies: 42
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,937
 

she's in the ground on her own right now.  i do have a shadecloth cover over her for a few days to give the roots a chance to adjust.


Subject: Game Time TIC TOC 11 O'Clock Replies: 13
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what about the taste vs mbvs?


Subject: Game Time TIC TOC 11 O'Clock Replies: 13
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,243
 

your unknown plant, as i recall, has been LOADED with figs.  tell us about the taste :).  i have a lot of black figs, and i'm hoping i can identify your unknown a bit later when my figs start coming in. 


Subject: Vincenzo Fig Replies: 7
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that sucker is a fig maker :)


Subject: Ronde De Bordeaux Airlayer Replies: 20
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,385
 

looks like they're going to be getting a good plant.  go ronde!  my ronde is actually beginning to put on figs :). 


Subject: my sickly black madiera Replies: 42
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,937
 

well, i am going in the ground with the black madiera tommorrow, come hell or high water, to sink or swim just like all my other figs.  this winter i'll make sure it has special protection if it's still alive.


Subject: My Chico Strawberry Replies: 6
Posted By: papayamon Views: 933
 

looking good nelson. :).  looking forward to seeing some figs pics later this fall.


Subject: Willis Violette de Bordeaux Replies: 17
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,402
 

i got great plants from rolling river.


Subject: Need help with my ailing Sicilian Black Replies: 8
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when i get a plant like that i cut all the leaves off and water/fertilize.  i figure that if the roots are deficient, that will take the load off them, since there will be no transpiration from the leaves.  if it's indeed rust, that's less food for it. 

i never worry about knocking the leaves off my ailing figs, since figs have no problems regenerating them once the problem is alleviated.

this is what i've decided to do with my ailing black madiera.  cut the leaves off and put it in full sun, fertilize heavily, and whatever happens, happens.

of course, we've all got our own style :).

Subject: Willis Violette de Bordeaux Replies: 17
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,402
 
my willis desert king is putting on some figs, and all the wood is new so i know they can't be brebas.  if they ripen, then i'll conclude it's not a desert king :).

most of my willis plants are finally starting to grow, but i have to say hands down the plants i got from figsnstuff on ebay and james robin have performed much, much better.

Subject: Willis Violette de Bordeaux Replies: 17
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nice looking bush tim :).  score one for willis.

my vdb is fmvish.  i'm hoping it finds it's wings this fall.

Subject: Keeping track. Replies: 4
Posted By: papayamon Views: 619
 

all i do is put a tag on each tree... what it is and who i got it from.  otherwise, there's really not much else you can know.  you buy/trade figs, and you are taking the person who is selling/trading with you's word for it, and unless there are substantial differences, like a supposedly gold fig tree giving you purple figs, you'd really have no way to ever know any differently.


Subject: the great fig race! Replies: 14
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,000
 
and the winner is... brogliotto nero, a growth of 5 inches in 7 days, from
46 to 51 inches!

and the rest of the field?

sal's corleone 39 1/2 to 43, + 3 1/2 inches.
brown turkey (?) 47 to 51, + 4 inches
lsu giant celeste 43 1/2 to 46 1/2, + 3 inches
mary lane 44 1/2 to 46 1/2 + 2 inches
alma 33 to 37, + 4 inches
natalina 36 to 37, + 1 inch
nero (bellecare) 32 to 35, + 3 inches

this is a week to week measurement of the hightest apical bud, leaves don't count.  of course, it's not the most scientific study, but i was just curious as to exactly how much growth i was getting.  the well was broken for 4 days during this test, so they did miss some water, though they showed no signs of it when i got here 3 days ago from my work trip.

the winner, brogliotto nero, was purchased as a plant in a 20 oz cup from
on ebay and planted this spring (i wintered it in a pot, and it barely survived).

figs for fun :).


Subject: Commercial Home Fig Orchard Possible? Replies: 14
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in my experience, unless you're just doing it for a hobby, anything in agriculture is too much labor for the return in money.  i am growing fruit to eat and give away... i've been pondering a line of fig based wines, however :). 

i look at figs just as this forum is named.. figs for fun :).

Subject: Fig allergy???? Replies: 29
Posted By: papayamon Views: 9,238
 

on the issue of er doctors being terrible, i am an er nurse.  our focus is not on long term care.  it's on seeing that your airway doesn't close and you don't drop dead.  otherwise, you have to follow up with long term care.  there is no way in the world we can possibly answer all the questions regarding medication, etc, in the short window we see you.  it sounds to me like you got good care :).  the doctors were probably more focused on the patient having a heart attack in another room, or the person they were going to have to intubate.  that's just the way it is..  believe me, it's more often than not absolute hell for us too.


Subject: Fig allergy???? Replies: 29
Posted By: papayamon Views: 9,238
 

that white fig juice triggers an incredible skin reaction in me.  i avoid it all at cost.


Subject: Big Brown Turkey MD Replies: 14
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,508
 

wow.  after reading these posts, it's certainly wonderful to know that i don't qualify as a fignut :).  maybe if i can collect another 100 varieties?


Subject: Marseilles Black, Stella, Votata Replies: 18
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i got to get me a blue celeste :). 


Subject: LSU figs and FMV Replies: 7
Posted By: papayamon Views: 828
 

no lsu fmv here.  all my lsu figs are doing well.  my lsu giant celeste is putting out some amazingly huge leaves, by far bigger than the other figs' leaves.  i was worried my alma was fmvish early this spring, but it snapped right out of it and it's zooming.  hollier is also another vigorous variety.


Subject: Nero Belleclare Replies: 7
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this is discrimination.


Subject: Epsom Salt????? Replies: 7
Posted By: papayamon Views: 3,445
 

sal, if the soil/fertilizer you have grows ever other fig so well, how can this fig possibly be so deficient?  i think the answer doesn't lie in nutrients.  my black madiera has sat right alongside figs getting the same care, and they've all exploded with growth.  i just can't buy the nutreint deficiency theory.  something is preventing the meristem cells from dividing.


Subject: Nero Belleclare Replies: 7
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martin, we'll know when we see the figs.  looking good.  its mother is absolutely zooming this week.

as far as your fear of the yellow fig, i think there had to be a traumatic moment in your life....  maybe you were beaned by a yellow ball when you were a kid?  i think the forum members can help you work through this :). 

i got a nice lemon fig with your name on it :).

Subject: Epsom Salt????? Replies: 7
Posted By: papayamon Views: 3,445
 
the question in my mind is what is going on with the meristematic tissues in these stunted plants.  i would think that assuming you've got adeqguate nutrients, hormones would stimulate growth better.  i've started putting green light root stimulator/starter solution on mine.  superthrive is another thing i'm going to try.

if i can get it to break '"dormancy", i'll put it in the ground and really zap it with the nutes.  apparently this is going to be a great fig challenge :).

Subject: my sickly black madiera Replies: 42
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i am gonna take my tape measure and record the heights of a couple of my faster growing plants, and i 'll do it again in a week :P.  then we'll see who's really pouring it on :).


Subject: my sickly black madiera Replies: 42
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it's simply amazing the difference in growth among varieties.  my dad has a 3 node green ischia cutting i gave him in march.  it's 6 feet tall now.

Subject: my sickly black madiera Replies: 42
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,937
 

i say we know why this is such a rare variety.  it basically sucks :).


Subject: my sickly black madiera Replies: 42
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,937
 
in all honesty, if this is normal for this variety, probably it's not a variety i want to mess around with much.   i have started hitting it with rooting stimulator fertilizer.  i suppose we'll see what happens.

what other varieties are typically so weak?  my other puny figs, though they are growing, are dauphine, vdb and one of those numbered figs, i can't recall the #. :).

this is interesting because sal's corelone, a rare fig, is such an incredibly vigorous grower.  pretty much i have to count on taking my figs and popping them in the ground and they live through several freezes and come back from the roots the next year.  this thing would never make the winter here in gainesville.  i guess i'll give it to my dad in clearwater.

Subject: My First Stella Replies: 9
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the shape of the leaf would collect less sun given the same area, as opposed to a celeste.  my stella is probably about 2 1/2 feet tall, all new growth above the ground.  just doesn't have the vigor of the truly fast growing varieties.  maybe this fall, when it gets a bit cooler, it will be another story.  that's only a guess on my part.


Subject: My First Stella Replies: 9
Posted By: papayamon Views: 1,047
 

i am thinking that the trees with stella like leaves don't like the heat as much.  mine has grown farily well, but it's not in that all out grow mode.  i got mine from one green world as well.  no figs yet, but that isn't unusual for me at this time of year in small plants.


 

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