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Subject: Too late to transplant an old container fig into garden? Replies: 8
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Well, what I did was tear away some of the roots that were at the bottom of the pot and then I put a little sprinkling of bonemeal at the bottom of the hole. I would say we put another foot around the plant, so if the root ball was 1.5 feet in diameter, the hole was 3 to 3.5 feet in diameter. The native soil is a sandy loam and the medium it was in was more humusy. I tried to mix some of the pot soil into the fill soil.

Here's another question: any plants that make good companions for the  area around the trunk? Right now I've covered the soil with bark mulch.

Cheers.


Subject: Too late to transplant an old container fig into garden? Replies: 8
Posted By: JustineM Views: 323
 
Thanks. I put that baby (6' baby) in a hole. WIll post a photo later. Thanks for your suggestions. Very much appreciated.

Subject: Too late to transplant an old container fig into garden? Replies: 8
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Thanks! Will let you know how we do.

Follow-up question though is what sort of soil amendments should I put into the hole? I've dug up an area in the lawn which 12 years ago was an amazing garden plot according to neighbours... so the soil WAS garden plot but has been lawn. The hole I dug shows lots of sandy loam but maybe it needs compost? or bonemeal? or...???

Thanks again!!!


Subject: Too late to transplant an old container fig into garden? Replies: 8
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Hi everyone,

I was researching the forum threads,  trying to find out what kind of garden soil figs need but now realize it might be too late to transplant. I have two fig plants that have been in pots for four seasons and I've never gotten fruit from them either! (They are both about 4 ft tall.) The soil would inevitably dry out - not enough to kill the tree or cause them to loose leaves - but they just limp along.

My last garden didn't have enough sun but I recently moved to Victoria and brought the figs with me because I like their leaves and have this hope that in my new garden I can put them in the ground and they will get more sunlight and a slightly milder climate than in Vancouver.

And no, I've never root pruned them. One is tightly crammed in a clay pot with Italian herbs competing for space. The other is in a plastic pot and it might be possible to root prune it but I much prefer to put in ground and prune what grows above the earth.

My burning question is whether it's too late to transplant into the new garden this year. Spring arrived early and these figs are most definitely in leaf.

Thanks,
Happy Victoria Day Weekend!
jm

Subject: Fig Propagation from Seeds Replies: 65
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Hi there!

Very happy to contribute to the next installment of "All My Children"!

How nice that you are wondering how the little miracle fig plant fared all these months later.

After overwintering it in its original place of discovery back in the fall of 2009, I dug up the fig in the spring of 2010 and potted it - since the garden it emerged from is very small and meant for my modest veggie patch. 

In the winter, I keep the pot in a warmer part of my garden (under the protection afforded by the outstretched boughs of a large spruce and evergreen magnolias) and place it in the sun during the warmer months. I increased the pot size this year although it's still rather small. The plant is probably only 3 feet tall. Still no signs of little figs. 

I'm wondering if anyone out there might be able to identify the type based on leaf shape. They are deeply incised, like fingers -- and rather large.  Here are some photos...

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Subject: Q: How to care for seedling start in Zone 8 Vancouver BC Replies: 10
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Hey Paully, 
You sound so busy. Thanks for offering advice. Your helped a lot with your encouragement. If in a few years I have a delicious fruit to share with you, I'll let you know!

All the best,
Justine

Subject: Q: How to care for seedling start in Zone 8 Vancouver BC Replies: 10
Posted By: JustineM Views: 927
 
Paully - wanted to show you the fig plant I found last year survived the winter no problem. I posted it to the wrong thread this morning...
(Way at the bottom)

I ended up giving it tough love and left it in the garden last winter with straw mounded around it. I dug it out of the veggie garden last week (a place too small and shady for a fig tree) and unfortunately I heard some roots tearing when I transfered it into the pot... but I left it for a week in a shady spot close to a tall reassuring spruce tree and I think it's okay. Now I just have to figure out what to do. I'd like a fig but I really don't have a proper place in my smallish, shade dominant garden. I could put it in a container and keep it on my patio, but that's a small space too for a big fig tree... Any suggestions? I was looking at the espalier threads but they weren't especially helpful since I don't have a shed to grow it against nor would I be able to install wires if on my patio. I was thinking of keeping it small in a pot. Since I don't know what variety of fig tree it is I have no idea of its eventual height potential!!!  I want this tree to survive and I'd be so amazed and thrilled to eventual taste of its fruits... but I'm really flummoxed!
Any sage advice most appreciated.  
Best regards, Justine

Subject: Fig Propagation from Seeds Replies: 65
Posted By: JustineM Views: 8,023
 
Update to my posting last September!

Yes, the fig tree survived the winter. As you probably know from the Olympics coverage, Vancouver had a very pleasant and mild winter (particularly from a young fig's point of view). The fig survived just fine and started to leaf out in spring. As the first photo shows, it soon started to sprawl along the garden bed seeking out sun (it started to grow in a shady area of my back garden. Last week I dug it up and am trying to figure out what I should do!  (Photos 2 & 3)  I don't really have full sun except on my back patio. Wish I knew what variety of fig this one is so I can know whether I can grow it successfully (easily) in a pot. Hoping the more experienced among you can offer advice.  Yours in appreciation... Justine

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Subject: Q: How to care for seedling start in Zone 8 Vancouver BC Replies: 10
Posted By: JustineM Views: 927
 
Hey Paully,

You sure have a H-U-G-E collection of fig trees from the sounds of things!  I guess you spoiled your son with endless supplies!!!!! (Lucky him!)

You would give me a small potted DK?? Really?! Wow!

Sounds like it's a good thing figs can take abuse, because I'm new to their care. I love learning and my friend's say I have a green thumb... but I would never have dared to dream I could grow figs. As this forum testifies, there's a lot to know! I hope I can rise to the challenge.

I'll dig up miracle plant in early November and put it under the steps and say a few Hail Marys, Nam Myo hos, and other incantations trying to favour the garden gods and goddesses! 

Your account of all that access to fresh fish is making me hungry. Time to make dinner...
:-)

I'll keep you up to date on any new developments on my 'figlet'.

Justine



Subject: Q: How to care for seedling start in Zone 8 Vancouver BC Replies: 10
Posted By: JustineM Views: 927
 
Hey Paully,

Thanks again for your excellent advice.  I think I now get it. For sure this little plant is still putting up new leaves but it's not in a sunny part of my garden anymore, so hopefully that will slow down.

When i dig it up in November, any suggestions for how wide a berth I need to dig around? I mean, like a 12 inch diameter or 24"?  Also, should I keep as much of the original soil from the garden and then add the soil mix you suggest, or should I loosen the roots from the existing soil and just give it all fresh stuff?

What would be the better winter location for this plant?
1.  under the unlit, unheated, humid, stairs 
or 
2.  in my basement which is not brightly lit, is cool (low 60s typically) and not as damp as the outdoor-under-the steps location. I'm not sure if inside the house would inspire the plant out of dormancy.

I had an arborist here (for a different reason) and asked him to look at the 'miracle plant' and whether he thought it was a fig. He said it looked like a fig but that it wasn't as woody as he'd expect it to be. Is there another plant that's awfully close in appearance... or is this just a fig that is young?

Thanks again. Hope you enjoyed the fishing, although I guess your activities were curtailed due to the sorry, low returns of the salmon this season. At least we have nice gardening weather again this weekend!!

Enjoy!
Justine

Subject: Q: How to care for seedling start in Zone 8 Vancouver BC Replies: 10
Posted By: JustineM Views: 927
 
Thanks for your informative reply! Through the forum's search engine, I was able to quickly look at some of your posts and see you are very definitely a knowledgeable and sharing gardener. I appreciate your spirit!!  Thank you so much for sharing your suggestions for our area.

Are you in Chilliwack or Vancouver proper?  I noticed you are gardening with a greenhouse. You are so lucky!!  As for me, I'm within a mile of Burrard Inlet, and my garden is protected by a very tall cedar fence and a giant spruce that calms down any winds.  Hopefully that bodes well for the fig treelet (or whatever they are called at this stage).

I got a little confused  about your paragraph:
With regard to winterizing -- almost all the younger trees in pots that I set out last Nov were killed by BC winter. Very unfortunate the miracle fig plant had such great soil mixture to continually feed its growth.

 Are you saying you put your "cuttings started" trees outside in November in pots, thinking they were ready and best to acclimatize them when dormant, but that they were killed by the cold winter? 

In reference to the soil, are you referring to your miracle fig plant or mine?  I guess I'm confused about why it would be unfortunate if a plant had great soil.

Confession time: I'm a complete newbie so the reason I sound a little clued out is... I really am!!   :-) 

I researched the forum to see what/who Baud is... Now I know he's a respected French grower of figs. I guess you are saying my plant could freeze without it even being close to the freeze mark? Yeicks!! 

I'm still unclear if I should leave it in the ground but cover it in hay or something, or if I should dig it up and containerize it and store it under my steps away from sunlight, winds and rains.

I sure hope this tree is not from a dried fig!  Don't know how that could have ended up in my garden, but I did put year-old kitchen compost on the garden in the spring...   I much prefer the idea that it came via a feathered friend from a human friend's tree. :-)  What's bizarre is that I didn't see it sooner than this week. I have very few weeds in my garden... (but there were a lot of un-staked tomato vines!)


Subject: Q: How to care for seedling start in Zone 8 Vancouver BC Replies: 10
Posted By: JustineM Views: 927
 
Hi there,

Much to my surprise and delight, I discovered a volunteer seedling fig tree in my garden earlier this week while cutting back a part of my 'tomato jungle'. It's about 8-10" tall and took root in soil that is 98% mushroom compost and 2% kitchen waste compost. Lucky fig!

What's miraculous is that this happened in Vancouver BC (zone 8B), an area that typically would not have capri wasps around to fertilize seeds I am told. We had a stellar, uncharacteristically long, dry, warm summer. Guess the wasps headed north to avoid the smoke in California?

I'm embracing this little miracle tree and would like to give it the best start possible. 

One key question I have is whether the winter rains of Vancouver will set back this little upstart. Most of the propagation notes talk about trees started from cuttings. A few mention that seedling starts are possible in California... but California is zone 9 if I'm not mistaken.

I am wondering if it would be better to dig the fig up and put it in a container once it goes dormant (late October?) and put that container in a dark unheated enclosed (yet still humid) space under my porch stairs. If so, when would I haul it out - the spring equinox?

Also, if yes, what kind of soil mix should I use? The original garden soil it obviously likes? or some garden store mix with perlite that I've been reading about for trees started from cuttings?

I read somewhere on this site that figs have a huge root system when left alone, and truthfully, I think I'd like to espalier this little darling, which I understand can only happen in container situations. The sunny area of my yard is not big enough to sustain an unfettered, full-sized fig tree.

Would you agree I need to: 

1. uproot it this autumn 
or 
2. can it stay exposed to the West Coast conditions (lots of rain and occasional wet snow that melts quickly) and wait to uproot next spring or fall since it really is just new to life this season. 

I'll attach some photos (which I posted in another post when I was asking if it was indeed a fig!).

Any comments or advice you might have to offer would be greatly appreciated. This will be my very first fig tree. I'm really excited!!  I love to eat fresh figs!

Best regards.

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Subject: Fig Propagation from Seeds Replies: 65
Posted By: JustineM Views: 8,023
 
Hello Martin and 'grazie' for the welcome to the forum! ;-)

FIG = Friendly Interested Gardeners, I suspect!

If I have questions about giving this fig the best chances of survival over our rainy zone 8B Vancouver winter, should I redirect it to a different thread in the forum?

Also, is this plant too young to identify. Maybe it takes more than a leaf alone to identify a variety of fig?

Thanks again for the welcome and the fast reply to my question.

All the best,
Justine


Subject: Fig Propagation from Seeds Replies: 65
Posted By: JustineM Views: 8,023
 
Hi all,
Not sure if I should start another thread or contribute to this one as it was recently active.

I live in Vancouver BC and am new to figs.  My neighbours in the Commercial Drive area (Vancouver's Italian 'hood) are NOT! :-)  There are many fig trees in fruit all over the neighbourhood.

Earlier this week I was thinning out overgrown tomato plants in my back garden and discovered what I believe is a volunteer fig tree at 8-10" height!

I think I've attached four images:
Three show the plant in question and one shows a leaf from my neighbour's confirmed fig tree that I laid on my garden wall for comparison.

Are you able to confirm whether this is a fig?

We had an extremely unusual, long, warm, dry summer this year. I'm wondering if the capriwasps headed north to avoid all that California smoke?

If it it a fig tree from a seedling, would it be possible to identify it before it fruits (if it fruits). Also, I believe Vancouver is zone 8b. If I leave it in my back garden unprotected, will it survive? (Vancouver has extremely rainy winters). The soil is took root in is 95% mushroom compost. The other 5% is kitchen waste compost.

Thank you in advance for your comments and advice.

Justine



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