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Subject: Deleon Breba Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,012
 
PS - another pic of Deleon breba here : http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Deleon-Black-Bethlehem-Unk-Owensboro-first-main-crop-2012-6008495

Breba was definitely better than main crop for me.  But even still, the breba wasn't flattering.  This fig is probably slated for a home in the ground north of Atlanta.

Subject: Deleon Breba Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,012
 
I wanted to update this thread, since it's dedicated to Deleon.  Here are three main crop figs of Deleon.  I wanted to post some details on this fig, which is labeled an 'Italian heirloom'.

this fig reminds me of "the best you can get from a Brown Turkey", which is like saying, "it's decent for being one of the worst".  It's better than a Brown Turkey, but barely.

This tree is ~3 years old and has 1.5" caliper, potted, around 6' tall. The figs you see ripened below were ripening with controlled water (no rainshower).

Notes about this fig:  When potted, this fig splits like holy hell if ripening when raining.  It has pinkish green skin when ripe.  Normally an awesome characteristic, it gets a dot of honey at the eye when fully ripe.  The flavor... 3/10 on the low end.  4/10 on the high end.  No figgy flavor, no berry flavors, only a sweet, watery flavor. 

The three figs pictured were picked 2 weeks apart - one two weeks ago.  The other two tonight.  LOTS of seed crunch.  That's about the only thing I liked.  Thick skin.  Pics:


















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Subject: A ripe fig in November! In Seattle? Replies: 18
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 878
 
Best.  Pups.  Ever.

So jealous of your kids!

Subject: Obtaining uc davis cuttings Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 856
 
Easy to fire and forget, but last time I did that, I regretted it and wanted to put in a second order!!

Subject: Obtaining uc davis cuttings Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 856
 
Well damn, once again, I miss another year.  for some reason I always think the cutoff is mid-December.  I never see reminder posts here indicating time is almost up!

Subject: Sals Gene/Sals corleone Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,471
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dieseler
My "personal opinion" Sals EL. is like eating a Ribeye compared to Sals C. a  plain sirloin while both edible the ribeye reins superior.


What he said ^^

I should also mention I grow mine in a container as well.  It's possible Sal C doesn't split with rain if in the ground, but ... I have my doubts.  East coast is just wet!

Subject: Sals Gene/Sals corleone Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,471
 

Hey Tony, I hope you and the family are doing alright, and you made it through Sandy without too much issue.

So, here's my take on Sal Corleone (also called Sal C) versus Sal Gene (also called "Sal EL").

Sal C is slightly larger, about the size of a silver dollar.  The eye is somewhat open and they split like holy hell when it rains here in Atlanta.  The flavor is good, very juicy, fruity, only slightly figgy for me.  Light reddish interior.  Mild seed crunch.  LOTS of pulp, tender skin.  Fruit takes a purplish red flush and is more round, slightly rotund.

Sal EL / Sal Gene is smaller - slightly larger than a quarter.  The fruit doesn't split in rain, and the neck is more elongated than Sal C, Sal EL is definitely more teardrop shaped.  Dark, dark red interior, and they'll sag and droop and get all wrinkly when ready with sometimes a little skin cracking going on.  Mild seed crunch, dark berry flavors inside.  Very tender, thin skin.

Sal EL / Sal Gene is the real winner here for me, in my south/east coast climate.  I gave away my Sal C this year to a local member (these trees were going for upwards of $70-$150 on eBay 3-4 years ago, they were super hyped up).  I won't look back.

The only thing I'll say here negatively about Sal EL/Gene is this:  Sal C shows no impact from fig mosaic or other viruses.  Sal EL/Gene does.  I have noticed that whatever virus cocktail I have in my trees, it leaves blemishes and scars on the fruit of Sal EL/Gene, but has no effect on Sal C.  It doesn't make the fruit taste any worse, but ... when some people see blemished fruit, they aren't as excited to eat it.  Visual appearance is important to some people.  I honestly believe the scars/blemishes may happen less if the tree is planted in the ground.  I also notice that a LOT of "Mt. Etna" varieties have this problem of scarring - a few in my collection that do the same thing:  Bethlehem Black, Marseilles Black VS, Owensboro, Hardy Chicago.

Hope this helps!


Subject: Unknown Tioga - need help with ID Replies: 14
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 967
 
I will say that pics of the eye of a few ripe fruits could be helpful. Eye seems a little tighter in yours from some of the pics up there.

Subject: Unknown Tioga - need help with ID Replies: 14
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 967
 
First thought for me was HC.  Scrolled down, saw Jon's comment... I agree with him.

Subject: Owensboro fig Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 739
 
Hey Dennis, I held onto that Owensboro for a couple of months after we missed each other just in case you came back through.  I ultimately gave your fig to Michael, who lives just a little north of me, but I have several feet of wood on my trees I can kick you if you're cool with cuttings.  I'd be more than happy to send them with my usual M.O. - don't pay me anything, just pay it forward ;)

Let me know - my trees are still fruiting, but I'm down to my last fig or two right now.

Subject: Fall Colors Replies: 3
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 579
 
This is pretty typical for later season of Celeste here.  Interiors look awesome on those!

Subject: Do we eat Fig Wasps also? Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,006
 
You're really only eating them if you eat figs where the wasp actually exists. I know there aren't any wasps in Georgia, and I don't eat store-bought fruit, so... No wasps for me.

Not that I care, I eat crickets and tripe and brains and all kinds of other stuff people find weird and/or gross.

(Eat with your taste buds, not your mind!)

Subject: JH Adriatic Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,096
 
My best tasting green fig - ever.

Subject: Roots or Mold??? Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 993
 
See this thread:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5442562

Not post #6 for specific links.

For more info, search the forum for:  barking fluff
Alsy search for:  white fluff

Subject: OK When do I Put Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 576
 
Now, or any time within the next week or so.

Subject: Malta Black Replies: 6
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 785
 
Looks good, Mike.  I just got cuttings of this tree, looking forward to growing it.

Subject: cuttings getting soft? Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 651
 
If it truly is rot... I've never found a way to recover.  I'd wait for others to chime in on this one.  Don't always take the first response as "the word", even if the person has a couple thousand posts ;)

Subject: UC-Davis ordering? Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 883
 
Jeff, please see:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/USDA-UC-Davis-Orders-4957008

This and several other threads similar with questions and answers can be found by searching for davis order fedex and also davis order

Subject: "Unknown Owensboro" Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,235
 
Dennis, I'm happy to send you some cuttings of it at end of year.  Your post above, you were one of the first people I was going to reach out to.

This tree has one wonky branch that has to come off, and it's bout 4' long.

Subject: Old home place find,WHAT IS IT?? Replies: 1
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 472
 

Kill it with fire.  It's an undesirable form of Mulberry (Mulberry and Fig are related). 

Please see this thread I created at GW for the same thing:

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/namegal/msg0421161625278.html?3

I posted it there after posting more info here (see post #6 and below):

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Some-pictures-...-and-an-unknown-fig-3940789?highlight=morus+alba

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, brother.


Subject: cuttings getting soft? Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 651
 
Stems turning soft sounds like rotting from the inside out.  There are a number of reasons this could happen, but the most common is overwatering, which is extremely easy to do.

Subject: "Unknown Owensboro" Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,235
 
It's just a mindful reminder to never discount unknowns ;)

Subject: UC Davis Early Violet Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 793
 
Celeste is even early to drop down here (not that I'm that far south)


Subject: "Unknown Owensboro" Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,235
 

Folks, I know Bill doesn't pop by the forum and comment much, but that man has an awesome unknown on his hands.  Hands down, Unknown Owensboro has been one of the best producing and best tasting figs in my collection.  Bill was really generous with the cuttings he sent me a year or two ago, and I know I've given a few clones of this one away... if you don't have one yet, you need one. 

Here's the one I ate tonight.  Dark fruity, jammy, clean finish, not a lot of acid and only the lightest little crunch to it.  This is a fig everyone should have in its collection.  The leaf, fruit size & shape, traits and ripening is very similar to Bass' Bethlehem Black, but this one if a 9/10 in flavor while Bethlehem Black is more of a 7/10 or 8/10 (no disrespect intended, just being honest).  Both would be awesome to have in a collection.

This one was left on the tree till nicely ripe - note that the skin wrinkles and cracks a bit when ripe like Celeste does.  The skin gets a bit of a flat frost to it when ripe also.  Closed eye, which is awesome for east coast. 

Real winner here.  JH Adriatic main crop and Negronne breba is still better than this, but this beats almost everything else in my collection.  I will probably have cuttings of this available when dormancy comes, so ... if I've traded with you before, add this to your list and get back to me in December.





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Subject: How can I rehabilitate this little fig tree? Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 999
 
This may be a blessing in disguise.  If it's actually a real Brown Turkey, it may be best just to let it die ;).  Then go out and buy a fig that actually has some flavor.  In your situation, the only reason I would keep that tree alive is because a loved one gave it to me... but that doesn't make the figs taste any better.

A lot of people think they have a Brown Turkey - it's one of those names that get tossed around like a cheap hooker - if you have Celeste or one of the other varieties that taste good but people often mis-title "Brown Turkey", it may be worth saving.

Subject: UC Davis Early Violet Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 793
 
Tahnks for sharing, Dennis.  I have a soft spot for those dark figs with white frosted skin.  Any comments on the taste?

Subject: Fig identification Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,165
 
Did both fruit come from the same tree?

Subject: what i found on my VdB few min ago.. Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 718
 
I'm telling you, the little ones may be little, but ... they pakc a lot of flavor into that little package.  I swear, the smaller they are, the more concentrated the flavor seems to be.  I still have yet to taste a big fig that has big, concetrated flavor. 

Subject: Brunswick from Jason Replies: 16
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,165
 
Hey Bob - no, MBVS is not normally that small.  Most have been about 50% larger than that, but ... not sure what's up with my tree.  Interior looks correct, leaf looks correct, but this is the first year it has produced fruit, and all of them are smallish and more yellowish-brown than brownish-purple.  We are assuming the scion I got was labeled correctly, and this is truly a MBVS.  I have no reason to not trust the intermdiate source for the cuttings.

Subject: Who can be crowned craziest fig fanatic? Replies: 43
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,099
 
That was Rafed jumping Martin's fence, if I'm not mistaken.

I've risked being shot a number of times to get cuttings I've passed out for free on the board.

Subject: Figs and ? Replies: 27
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,436
 
http://www.capetrib.com.au/rollinia.htm

Subject: leaf cutting - INPUT NEEDED Replies: 6
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 547
 
This has been discussed at great length in the past, and creeps up once a year or so. Same problem with trying to grow trees from a root - you might get roots on a leaf (some claim you can), but without trunk tissue/cells, no plant. Some plants like Coleus are capable of this, but nobody we've seen here or at GW has been successful.

Subject: Some people who come to mind & are missed Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 951
 
Nelson had his little girl just a little bit before me (6-8 months), I can only imagine he has his hands full with that also.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
Another pic of Voiture here: 









Subject: Brunswick from Jason Replies: 16
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,165
 
Got the PM!  This looks similar to the first full-sized one I picked.

Here is one that I cut off a day or two before you came (note the honey oozing from eye):







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Subject: Some people who come to mind & are missed Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 951
 
I totally understand that.  I keep in touch with a couple of folks that are in the same boat, and I am too.  Having an extremely intelligent and active two-year-old and 15 weeks from a newborn baby boy has me totally balls to the wall - and that doesn't include the 5-hour work week.

I was just sitting here reminiscing last night about the people who, after I signed up, really had a huge impact and have been visibly missed.  I know some folks (Cathy, for example) post once every 6-8 weeks, so they're still around, but I still think about those folks from time to time as well.

Certain people here have made an impact on my life, internet or not.  I didn't list everyone, I just pegged off the people I rarely see post these days or people I don't email with, text or call regularly.

Subject: Figs and ? Replies: 27
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,436
 
I've been told that Niagara is one of the best grapes you can find for our area.  "Table" grapes are tough though.  I was told by a number of people don't bother when asking about table grapes, specifically.

Subject: October Figs Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 4,842
 
Still waiting for mine to fruit....

Subject: Figs and ? Replies: 27
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,436
 

This topic comes up semi-regularly.  Here are the last couple, using the search feature:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/What-else-do-you-grow-5792979

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/What-else-do-you-grow-5009908

 


Subject: Some people who come to mind & are missed Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 951
 

I hate to get all sentimental, but there are a few people here I've thought about in recent weeks that I wonder about and hope they are doing OK.  I try to keep in touch with a few people by email who aren't in the list below (Ricci/jazzbass, Akram/Ottawanz5, for example), but I wonder about the others.  Some people I've really enjoyed over the years.  I don't have everyone's number or email, so I'll just say, hope all of you all are doing alright if you read this. 

I know some folks (like JD, for example) have been busy with life, but I still miss their words around here.  Some folks like Maggie ... just miss their spirit around.  If you have a heads-up on any that haven't been around in a bit - like Maggie - let us know they're OK!

Maggie (Italiangirl74)
Jimmie (JD)
Tim (Fatnsassytexan)
Sal (2007_giants)
Kit (ResLtFire517) - even if he never posted ;)
Sue (svanessa)
Nelson (nelson20vt)
Little John (Wildforager)
Jose (loslunasfarms)
Michel (The_montreal_fig)
Bill (saxonfig)
John (GeorgiaFig)
Cathy (texascockatoos)


Subject: Branches die after pruning for cuttings ! Replies: 2
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 436
 
I find this happens if pruning in winter.  Even down here in winter, I often lose the last 6"-12" of branch (tip), and if I prune the tree down to only 6"-12" left, unfortunately.... the branch dies down to the trun if temps drop down below 30F.

Subject: Firehouse pickle bucket Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 816
 

Seems like every restaurant manages to take my favorites off the menu, or just closes up shop. 


Subject: October Figs Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 4,842
 
Hey Joe, does your Hardy Chicago have an open eye when ripe?

Subject: Firehouse pickle bucket Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 816
 
Firehouse's Smoked Brisket and Cheddar (sauce on side) is freaking awesome, especially double-meat.  Sadly, they just closed down the only one I was aware of anywhere near intown Atlanta (~7th and Peacthree NE)

Subject: Seed Heating Mats Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,136
 
Oh - and I should add - I don't remember actualy seeing any significant difference in rooting.  The only thing using heat like this did was make me feel like I was doing "everything I could".  The cuttings apparently could've cared less.  Again - classic example of humans "trying too hard" and "caring too much" about rooting what is, essentially, a glorified weed.

Subject: Seed Heating Mats Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,136
 
65º is plenty warm enough to root a cutting.  Fig trees root during winter, I've pulled my pots during dormancy in the garage and found spaghetti of new, white roots.  I'd say, "don't get too hung up on temps".

I used heating mats on a timer (30min on/30 min off) and put them under my plastic bin a few times in rooting trials to warm the temps in the closed bin - the bin had a spacer on its floor (no direct contact with heat) similar to what Jon recommends in his Growing Tips area of figs4fun.com, like this:


Subject: Earliest Bearing Fig Tree Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,828
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukeott
Jason, you say brown turkey taste like ass. Then later on you rate it at 2/10. So my question is, what does your 1/10 fig taste like? wow


You should hear what my 0/10 fig tastes like. 

As tempted as I am to make a quip about how much ass I've eaten in my time (can't help but LOL at that), I'll just say this:

0/10 is totally inedible to me - may as well be eating mulch with ketchup - and 1/10 is equivocal to eating a green, immature fig that's 5-6 weeks from being ripe - it's barely food. Really, 2/10 is edible, but it's one of those "why bother?" moments - might as well be licking someone's (preferrably washed) butt, it'd probably taste better.  3/10 is getting into better territory, but I just don't bother with anything less than 5/10 these days, and really, looking to whittle my collection down to 8/10 or higher in varieties that aren't prone to splitting.

Michael brings up a good point - I can only comment on the generally-accepted strain (common) Brown Turkey, of course, not the "English Brown Turkey", which is supposed to have some redeeming quality/ies.  Someone should really rename that fig - if it tastes good, it doesn't deserve the "Brown Turkey" badge.

Subject: I had the pleasure to met Jason Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 972
 
If the timing was right, I could make it.

Subject: Seed Heating Mats Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,136
 
Historically here, in many threads dating back years, most folks have discouraged the use of hearing mats. It is possible to have good experience, but it seems the bad typically outweigh the good by a fair margin.

Subject: I had the pleasure to met Jason Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 972
 
Thanks, Mike - awesome to meet you also. Sorry things were cut short - was expecting the daughter to be asleep already, was expecting company to be gone, then had to try and finish building the daughter's new birthday-present playhouse that the whole family chipped in on before she woke up (mission: failed. she never went to sleep.)

Finished the trim work on the house this morning. Them got flooded by a friend down the street borrowing our house for their baby shower. You're lucky you guys didn't pop by today!

 

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