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Subject: Growing a New Tree from Ball of Roots? Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 913
 
Without trunk cells, no tree. There are technical details available here if you want to understand why - This topic comes up once or twice a year.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
It's possible, Dom. I really don't know. This is by first Brunswick, and I have had two. Neither split. From day one I started reading here and then two ears later when I setup an account, I have read that Brunswick supposedly splits in east coast weather. Yet, I have yet to find one that splits in rain.

It is totally possible Brunswick splits, but I'm getting the feeling Brunswick generally gets a bad rap as a tree. If it weren't for the large eye, I would've kept it.

I ate one of the Voiture/Brunswick before handing it over to Mike - ill post pics. It was extremely sweet and surprisingly figgy - almost too sweet for me, but ... For some people, this tree would be a keeper. It would make an awesome fig spread and would hardly require Any sugar at all - just some pectin and agar.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
Who says Brunswick splits in rain? I've always perpetuated because that's what I've heard, but in retrospect, never actually seen.


Subject: Earliest Bearing Fig Tree Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,828
 
Celeste is OK outdoors to zone 6 at least. Negronne also. Negronne tastes better. Celeste is a 6/10. Negronne 9/10. Brown Turkey 2/10.

Subject: Earliest Bearing Fig Tree Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,828
 
June for breba on Celeste in z7 to z8 (for me). Negronne... I'd need to look back on my posts for 2012. (Sorry, prefer answering some things publicly)

Subject: Earliest Bearing Fig Tree Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,828
 
If you want the earliest producing TASTY fig tree, go Celeste. Personally, zone 8 or 9, I would buy a Negronne. Tastes better than Celeste. Avoid Brown Turkey. Tastes like ASS.

Subject: Best figs for new grower here? Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,456
 
I prefer FigNatics.

Subject: Is it Marseilles Black VS? Plus others. Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,357
 
@Viv, this is the first time my tree has produced any significan quantity since starting it. I sent two brothers of this tree out to forum members, so I'm a little concerned that I may need to tell them about my experience ad check in on theirs. This tree had two or three fruits last year, but I only saw one ripen, and it was light colored also. 100% positive I didn't mislabel this one, either. It tasted good.

I've noticed all of my figs seem to be lighter, Gino's Black was, you can see above that Bethlehem Black was... It could be something about my growing environment, really. I just dunno what.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
What's the source of your tree? Lots of figs start out with pink eyes.

Subject: Is it Marseilles Black VS? Plus others. Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,357
 
All fruit is covered by leaves also. Not sure it matters. It is also heavily infected by something. Clearly, not even my Gino's Black is very black...

@Leon, I shoot all of my pictures with my iPhone. If you have good lighting and a steady hand, the pictures can turn out great.

Subject: Is it Marseilles Black VS? Plus others. Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,357
 
Here are two more fruits pictures from my supposed "Marseilles Black VS" tree.





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Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
Hey Barry, here is a picture of the unripe "Voiture" fruit's eye and other pics near ripe.

One thing that is pretty distinct about some Brunswick is that much of the fruit are lopsided.  This tree is no different.

4 weeks from ripe:



10 days from ripe:





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Subject: Is it Marseilles Black VS? Plus others. Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,357
 

Cut these off last night.  The fruit is blemished from FMV or some other virus, hence the patches.  The fruit is labelled in the larger sized pics.

Question:  All of my Marseilles Black VS look like the middle fig pictured here - skin is NOT black, not even really that dark.  I got the cuttings from someone I've never dealt with, but have no reason to question the shipment.

I'll post more MBVS fruit pics in a few minutes.

I gotta say, Owensboro (saxonfig's Unknown) is freaking awesome, whatever it is.  Outshined the other two, but all were good, I was lucky to get a taste, my daughter scarfed these down.



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Subject: I had the pleasure to met Jason Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 972
 

My friend Amer taught me a few things.  Mostly profanity, though!  That doesn't get you far in the world.  ;)


Subject: Best figs for new grower here? Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,456
 
You forgot Edible Landscaping, which is another awesome online resource for trees.

Subject: Can you ID me,I forgot who I am #1 Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 913
 
Leaf looks similar to Gilette.

Subject: I had the pleasure to met Jason Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 972
 

Drago mi je, Eden ;)  Honestly.

I hope for many more chances to catch up in the coming years, and hopefully some cevapcici as well.  Now I just need to get Newnandawg out here to pick up this Voiture/Brunswick.  ;)


Subject: How do you root your cuttings. Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,181
 
Pics are worth a thousand words.  Start with post #11 here:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/My-2011-cuttings-progress-....-5137445

Read the entire post - read the pictures - and what I would share with you is this:  You see the baggies with tons of roots hanging out of the corners?  I should have NEVER let them go that long before repotting - 90% of them died.  The root quantity and size shown in pic from post #29 are perfect state for transplant to potting in pre-wetted soil (then into bin, like I showed you on my porch).  Roots in post #29 are really pushing it to the extreme.  And man, post #30... I let those go way too long.

Towards the end of the thread (post #79 and just above) shows the potted plants, so you can see the amount of moisture - I pre-wet my soil (which I think is critical) to the point that it's like a slightly moist cake - if I squeeze it in my hand as hard as possible, no water will come out, but it will also clump.

Subject: Fig bananas Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,254
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jenniferarino83
Lol- I'm Filipina! Lmao childhood memories


You're fig bananas also.  Go figure?

Subject: gnats! Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 752
 
Fungus gnats don't really hang out outdoors... at least I don't necessarily notice them much outside.  Not to the quantity you're describing.  Fungus gnats also usually keep to the soil line for me, not near the leaves.  Hope they aren't fruit flies... (the kind you get from the grocery store)

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
It's a Brunswick ;)

Subject: gnats! Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 752
 
indoor tree or outdoor tree?  newly rooted, or more than a year or two old?

Subject: dichotomous key for figs Replies: 18
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,397
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pitangadiego
I don't want to discourage you, but if it was that easy, it would have been done.

You're going to need fruit shape, size, soil type. probably fertilizer used, water quality. breed of neighbor's dog, sun/shade, and much more.


What Jon said.  Don't want to shoot you down, but I've seen some stuff that Jon posts where fruit from the same tree nad same branch have different exterior and interior colors, even drastically different sizes... and some that change from year to year - one year dark interiors, next year light interiors. 

It could be a decent general guide, but ... I think you'd be giving a tool to people that would be misused.  People would use it as the 'de facto' guide to fig ID, and you will see Brunswicks showing up as Brown Turkey on eBay (and vice-versa), BlackJack as Black Mission, this kind of stuff... because someone doesn't use such a tool properly.

Novel idea, but the consequences aren't worth the effort.

Subject: Bonsai Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 674
 
There are a couple of threads on it with awesome pictures that are discoverable using the search feature of the forum.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
That is true, but then I'm sending out multiple packages instead of just one, which is cumbersome, when I could just hand off a 7' tall plant to someone local and be done with it.  Really, this isn't that awesome of a plant.  If I thought it was worth keeping, I'd offer to ship it out, but it's hardly worth the price of gas to pick it up, in my book.  I normally only ship out 1-gallon pots.  Anything larger than that just isn't worth the time and effort involved.

Let me check to see if I still have any 1-gallon versions of this plant.  I think I planted the last one in our community garden to commemorate the burned out neighborhood building it came from.  I don't think I have any extras, but I can check.  This tree needs pruning at end of year, if I give it to Newnandawg, I'm happy to ask him to send you some wood. 

Subject: Kadota fig disappointment Replies: 26
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 10,230
 
Can't search the page from my phone, just want to add a note about Kadota - Kadota is the fig used for fig newton cookies, supposedly.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
Let me look into this one, guys. I'm always for easy (local) versus shipping.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 

@Barry, I can get a pic if you want it.  Most of my trees are pot culture, this tree is 7' tall and in a 3gallon pot.  The tree is on the south side of my house and gets full sun from approximately 10:30am until 6:30pm (~8 hours).

@Chris, all of my trees go dormant in Atlanta.  I don't understand what you're asking about how large the root section is.  Does the pot size listed above help?  My trees sit in pots and are encouraged to root into the ground through the pots.


Subject: Can a Black Mission tree be kept small? Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,075
 
Fig trees grow like weeds. You can cut them down to the ground and they grow back. They can freeze to the ground and grow back. They are great for bonzai, even. No worries there...

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
Pics of "Voiture 217", fully sized and fully ripe.  I couldn't eat because it was rancid and crawling with fruit fly larvae.  The open eye on this one makes it prone to bugs and ... I doubt I'll ever get to taste one, the other ones that are about 3-4 days from ripe are teeming with fruit flies inside and out, and now the bees and yellowjackets are starting to swarm them.  Seems to be common with Brunswick here. 

This tree has great leaves, but if I can't eat the fruit... it's gotta go to fig heaven!  Anyone near Atlanta want a 5' tall Brunswick or two?







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Subject: Anyone ID this Fig Tree Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 478
 
No fruit means no ID.  Celeste and Brown Turkey are the two biggies 'round here.  It could be either, based on that leaf pattern.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
Schuyler still hasn't fruited, and I'm one of the only people that has managed to root it off.  I'm almost convinced it will end up being a Celeste based on experience with other trees in the area.

Voiture is most definitely a Brunswick or Brunswick variant.  The mother tree is gone, dead, no more.

I am convinced that Hobart is Napolitana Branca, whatever that means.  Not sure what Napolitana Branca is a synonym for, but ... it seems like a 100% match to me.

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
Ok, I'm watching Voiture ripen off a ton of figs this year... It's definitely a Brunswick. Doesn't split with massive rain, though - we got two inches the other day and I have Sal C and Deleon splitting left or exploding left and right but Voiture is perfectly OK. Hmmm....

Pics to follow in about a week. I got about 5 days to go before we are fully ripe on two figs. They are characteristically lopsided and pear shaped.

Subject: can anyone help confirm variety Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 640
 
Don't pollinated honey-interior figs have a tendency to go red on the inside? I seem to remember reading this claim several times recently.

Subject: Cuttings -- does size matter? Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,417
 
I'm with where I think Alan is - any excess wood below or above a cut is an entry point for mold/rot.  I am not careful about cutting when sending to others, but if no callous is formed on cuttings I receive, I'm cutting no more than 2-3mm below a node line and above on the end/beginning of a cutting.

Subject: Cuttings -- does size matter? Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,417
 

Yeah, but the pith will only 'go bad' up until a node line.  The segments (nodes) of a cutting act as little containers to hold the pith intact, and everywhere there's a line on a cutting, there is a barrier to seal the pith up. 

You'll probably never be able to do anything with the node you cut in half to take your cutting (that pith is compromised by the cut), I wouldn't put too much attention on trying to save half a node worth of pith.


Subject: Cuttings -- does size matter? Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,417
 
Anything longer than 8" is probably too much.  6"-7" and no thicker than a pinky finger has worked best for me.

Subject: Gino's Black Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,366
 
Got any more pictures of the skin color?

Subject: Are these figs really the same? Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,995
 
I have faith in their testing, based on the caveat they included in the document - which, if you haven't read it, you should, that way you actually understand what they tested for and how.  I won't spoil the mystery for you.

Subject: Ant swarm Replies: 25
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,430
 

One word for you:  Tanglefoot

Go buy some. 


Subject: The Taste Standard Replies: 29
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,396
 

I find that trees in pot culture seem to show symptoms worse than those that aren't, and maybe that's why I see it more.  I dunno.  I definitely have a viral 'cocktail' in my trees, though.  It sucks, but they're still producing awesome fruit, just with malformed leaves on about 1/3 of them.  No biggie?  I think it's inevitable, but respect those who think they can have a virus-free orchard.


Subject: The Taste Standard Replies: 29
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,396
 
Or it could just be any of the other half a dozen common viruses that produce FMV-like symptoms....  FMV isn't the only one, and there isn't a lot of discussion about how the others are transferred.

i have an interesting "cocktail" with my trees.  Only some are affected, too.  It's interesting.

Subject: EXPRESS MY THANKS TO DAN (celt) Replies: 6
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 724
 
Avoid Hell's Kitchen.  They seek out people with low self esteem that would aspire to run a McDonalds.  You don't want some douchef**k like Ramsey emasculating himself with you on TV, and they don't have room for people with your integrity.  Chopped is a better venue that allows someone with your level of talent to shine. 

I need to make an effort to come up and stop in next time we're your way.

Subject: Help Identifying Figs Replies: 29
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,392
 
Reminds me of "Brown Turkey MD": http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Brown_Turkey_MD.html

Which IS NOT an actual Brown Turkey.  (See:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Brown-Turkey-MD-pix-2604282 )

But the leaves don't match at all.

Subject: Maltese Beauty Replies: 77
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 8,291
 
Very tempting offer!

Subject: Are these figs really the same? Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,995
 
This report has been discussed here since the day it came out (in one or two threads ;))

The tests are done to a certain level - it is best to say these varieties are "genetically related" and if you look at several, you will understand why - many share common characteristics - like Brown Turkey, Blue Giant and Black Jack - only major difference is skin color IMHO.

Subject: Help Identifying Figs Replies: 29
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,392
 
And damn sure not a nasty ass, crappy tasting Brown Turkey! Smack those vile words out of your mouth, man!! I don't even wish a Brown Turkey on my worst enemies!!

Subject: Help Identifying Figs Replies: 29
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,392
 
Not a Celeste. Not sure what it is. Doesn't even look like a Celeste strain to me, although I suppose it could be a hybrid (LSU breeding, et al).

Subject: Fig ID - one more time Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,241
 
Danny, not like your _____ ?  Several figs were mentioned prior, you didn't indicate which fig it's not like ;)

Subject: Fig ID - one more time Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,241
 

It's most probably EBT.  I knew it wasn't a classic Brown Turkey, but I was unaware that EBT had such a long skinny breba that looks strangely like Flanders.  The leaf is also same shape (generally) but has some jags around the outside.

Please see Nelson's pictures here and compare:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1270311503&postcount=20

Dennis (snaglpus) may be able to add some info.  See the picture of what appears to be main-crop fruit on this thread:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Will-the-real-Brown-Turkey-please-stand-up!-5498398


 

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