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Subject: Fig ID - one more time Replies: 21
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I agree, looks like Nelson's EBT also. But the breba of this tree is a mile long (no match) and the leaf is different enough...

Subject: Two more questions if you don't mind. Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 755
 
Celeste is more brown sugar and almost no berry flavor at all, really.  I've had plenty of both and can firmly assert that this is a major difference between it and the 'berry flavored' figs.  Celeste is sweet and figgy, if dried it has overwhelming brown sugary fig newton quality to it. 

JH Adriatic, Negronne or VdB, and Sal EL/Gene will offer you awesome berry flavor and will grow readily in the south.  All are dark red interior, JHA is green while the others are darker/black.  Sal EL/Gene is a bit more acidic and reminds me of raspberries.  JH Adriatic is like a thick, dark berry jam, as is Negronne.  My VdB hasn't fruited yet, so can't comment.  I'm told it's similar to Negronne.

Subject: Please ID this fig Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 835
 
I have a Brunswick with yellowish red as well. Skin tone varies with sun exposure, temperature, zone....

Subject: Please ID this fig Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 835
 

@Luke, the figs are more green because they're a few days under-ripe.  It has the 7-finger long, skinny leaf with jags, the fruit is misshapen the way Brunswick normally is, same size/characteristics of fruit, it has a blush of red, interior that will be pinkish-tan... if the fruit were actually fully ripe, I don't think there would be an argument.

I have three and they're all slightly different, but 90% the same, just like this one.  You can see the slight variances in Jon's database:

http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Brunswick.html

Difference being, the fruit he has pictured is actually ripe ;)


Subject: Please ID this fig Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 835
 
Brunswiiiiiiiick!

Subject: Corky's Honey Delight Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,203
 
Pics?

Subject: Fruit Rich Fig Poor Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,811
 
Your Jujube, Gooseberry and Goumi are of most interest.  The Miracle berry is tempting, but not sure how practical it would be and/or how fruitful.  Pretty sure I got a couple twigs of Illinois Everbearing cuttings from you at the grafting class/scion swap... and the two I got to root were knocked off my front porch with some Niagara grape cuttings I got at the same place (all five in 1gal pots, squirrels are likely culprits), and five viable plants turned into only one surviving really fast, so ... still looking for one of those.

Subject: Bought a Hardy Chicago from Lowe's today...(pics) Replies: 26
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,568
 
Looks legit.

Subject: Fruit Rich Fig Poor Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,811
 
 Hey Phil,

You know I can help out with some of those.  I started a couple RdB airlayers this weekend and I definietly have a little stumpy Dk Portugeuse I can kick your way.  I have some good structure on JH Adriatic and expect to be able to airlayer early next year.  I have a Scott's Black I just planted in our community garden after airlayering one off.  I kept one airlayer and sent one to a forum member looking earlier this year - the one I kept may be available for airlayer or cuttings at end of year.

Most of what I'm interested in of yours is in the "Misc Fruits" section.

Subject: Mushrooms in Container! YIKES! Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,144
 
During extra moist times, I often find the little dark 'puffers'.  They're these dark little balls that, when hit with water, throw clouds of spores everywhere.  Very annoying.  Usually pop up in the spring times.

Subject: Main crop REI Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 931
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmc2009
Does Brown Turkey grow very compact with small leaves?


No, but Black Jack is a compact, dwarf grower. 

F4F pics and info:  http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Black_Jack.html

Monrovia's info:  http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/plants/1253/black-jack-fig.php

Now, the only thing confusing to me is the 'thumbs' on the leaves, but ... leaf variation isn't as important as fruiting.

Black Jack and Brown Turkey are genetically related ;)

Subject: When to take suckers? Replies: 1
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 384
 
Take them any time. I prefer to do so while NOT dormant. See this thread, see the video in post #3: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/propagate-sukers.-4967631

Subject: Mushrooms in Container! YIKES! Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,144
 
Keep pulling them before they spore or shovel the top inch or so out and hope you don't leave any spores behind....

Subject: Good fig newton recipe? Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,199
 
I saw where someone here made something similar this year. I have Gina stuck in my head but may be losing my mind at any given time.

Subject: Main crop REI Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 931
 
Looks like Black Jack to me...

Subject: RDB ON EBAY Replies: 52
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,631
 
Unfortunately, the willingness to pay those prices for this fig is why we have fraudsters like the recent one posted here.

No fig is worth that much money, sorry. I give my RDB away for free to locals. I wish everyone else would do the same. There are better tasting figs out there which are more popular and cost less money. Go buy a Negronne. It's also French!

Subject: Still time to do air layers? Replies: 8
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Two on RDB this weekend in my zone. All good.

Subject: How do you eat your figs? Replies: 25
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,499
 
I'm with Akram. Although we are usually splitting gigs amongst many, so they often get quartered so we can all sample the differences between.

Subject: Some tips on up-potting Replies: 33
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,350
 
Up-potting isn't about height, as explained in this thread, first post.  Good reading, highly recommend checking it out.

Subject: HELP - OFF TOPIC- need advice on grape order Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,068
 
I picked up Niagara cuttings at a recent local swap - Niagara is supposed to do well in our area.

Subject: Do I cut off the yellow spotted leaves? Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 591
 
Discolorated leaves can be left on the tree. I let mine fall off naturally.

Subject: Help with an ID please Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 662
 
Note all those pics only show two different figs - if you look at the smaller list of pictures at the bottom of my post, the first four are one fig, and the last three are another.  They are about 4 days apart in ripeness, so, you see, 3-5 days means the difference between a fluid-filled reddish-purple fig and a halfway-hollow fig that's green on the top half with red stripes to the bottom. 

The first four are perfectly ripe, juice was running out of the eye.  The latter three are 3-5 days from actually being ripe.  The first ripped away from the stem easily and didn't milk at all, the latter had to be twisted off and milked from the stem when picked.

I have struggled to come up with a good way to explain when to pick figs - it's hard, because a lot are different.  My Sal C stick out sideways from the tree and hardly droop at all when ripe.  I guess the best method is maybe to cut or nick the stem in a couple places and see if it weeps milk.  If it does, there's a good chance it's not ready.  I only picked the first fig because it was running fluid out of the bottom (I didn't even think it was ripe).  I picked the second because it would've exploded with just one more hour on the tree.

Sal C splits with rain in my area, but it does taste pretty good.  I like Sal EL/Gene better, though... it is smaller, about half the size.

Subject: Is this cutting ready to graduate to the clear cup? Replies: 14
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,029
 

That is the bare minimum I would have before transferring to cup.  I like to wait for at least 2-3 rootlets that are 1/2" - 1" long before cupping it up.


Subject: Help with an ID please Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 662
 
Well, those were picked under-ripe, so they won't be purple!  I know they're underripe because I see white milk on the stems of some.  Sal C will break away the stem when properly ripe.  It is green like you see there.

Really, I agree on the Sal C - to give you a comparison, here is one I picked from my tree the other day.  It wasn't quite there, but .. damned rain had it splitting and I was trying to keep the fruit flies at bay.

Note:  One of these (the cracking one) was picked perfectly ripe.  The one with the void was underripe by about 3-5 days.













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Subject: My fig tree is dying Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,501
 
Suzi, she's in Dacula Georgia.

I have three trees that have already 90% dropped their leaves for the year and I'm in SE Atlanta.  All of my plum trees have also dropped leaves for the year, and every hackberry tree within a block of my house is halfway defoliated.  It's just about that time of year.  Celeste seems to be the first to drop leaves this year, a couple of east-facing trees near me are also almost defoliated. 

Based on that, I suppose it's possible that your tree is dying, but I tend to think ... it's just fall, temps got cooler faster this year, and ... it's about that time.  If you're anywhere near the mountains and/or your night time temps are dropping into the 50s... it's about that time.

Nonetheless, I'd look around your yard for signs of gophers and make sure there are no finger-sized bore marks in your tree to rule out the two biggies.

Subject: Best way to root Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 743
 
I honestly believe the best way to find that info is by searching out the already-existing threads and researching what people have done. The terms i gave above are the ones i used when I came here and i found a wealth of valuable tidbits that helped me find what gave me the best yield.

A little legwork is required - I know it sucks, but people can't hand-feed everything and do the work for everyone. A lot of the old-school pros that have laid the rooting foundations for others have come and gone, their threads are here, but they are not - fortunately, their years worth of work are still here in the form of old threads and posts. Without hunting those, I think you aren't going to get a full picture and are likely to miss some real gems.

Subject: "Black Mission"...information, please. Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,419
 
PSS - I think genetic testing at UCD showed genetic link between VdB, Black mission, Black Jack, Brown Turkey and a few others - ill need to go back and look again (will try this morning).

Subject: "Black Mission"...information, please. Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,419
 
PS - Jon says that Vista is definitely in its own league (possibly variety), and is superior to all.

Subject: "Black Mission"...information, please. Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,419
 
Those you named are related.

There are several variants of black mission, as I'm sure you've found. I have one nearby to me that splits in rain and sours eventually. Not a good choice. I sent cuttings to te west coast and it doesn't split and sour in their climate. Go figure? That said, I would e sure to get opinions from both coasts where possible...

Subject: Fig Taste? Replies: 26
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,343
 
Frank, I have some varieties that I could put side by side with other fruit and I guarantee you couldn't tell the difference if the fig and the other fruit were puréed.

I have to peg flavors out of beer and wine all the time and come up with some bizarre stuff. My palate is pretty right-on - I'm one of those jerks that can eat a dish at a restaurant and tell you a half dozen or more ingredients in it, and usually go home to recreate it (food, drink and cooking are a passion of mine).

I've tasted "fig", and there are a ton of figs in my collection that taste very different from that flavor. True, taste is indeed subjective - cant argue with that - but I do argue that there are figs that don't taste like figs, and sight only affects the palate of an amateur taster.

Subject: Best green fig Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,345
 
JH Adriatic tastes like dark berries.

I think it is important when selecting a green fig to separate out the "berry" flavors from the "honey" flavors. These are the two major differences (to me - some others may argue). I don't like the honey flavors, I like the berry flavors.

I have a fig to Greek White, tastes like watery honey. Meanwhile, Verte and Green Ischia are supposedly similar (or the same) and have been said to be similar to Adriatic. My JH Adriatic tastes like dark berry jam... Very different flavors, and I'm not a fan of the sweet watery-honey-like figs....

Subject: Best way to root Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 743
 
The best way to root isthe way that works best for you. Everyone has their preference, some will work for you and some won't. I suggest you start with the Rooting tips at figs4fun.com: http://figs4fun.com/basics_Rooting.html

Searching the forum for "rooting sphagnum", "rooting baggie", "rooting towel", "rooting method", and "rooting humidity" should supply a ton of examples of ways to root of success rates - and if you are just looking for percentages... "rooting percent"

Subject: Fig Taste? Replies: 26
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,343
 
Sal EL/Gene is the closest I've found, but had depth and acidity is more like raspberry to me.

A lot of my dark figs remind me of other berries rather than figs - Celeste and Kadota (which I finally tasted this year) are the closest to what I expect for "figgy" flavor, and it shows best when they're dried. Many of my dark figs have berry flavors, but I haven't tasted much outside of that. Either sweet and watery, sweet and honey/rich ("figgy" to me), or sweet and berry-like.

Sadly, I don't think the fig variety 'Banana' taste like bananas and neither Strawberry nor Strawberry Verte taste like strawberries. I can only imagine the disappointment of people who buy these figs with the hope they do (or b/c of the mental flavor image they get), and I often find myself cursing the person who thought to name them these things ;)

Subject: Black Jack- what a surprise! Replies: 6
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,013
 
Yes, per UCD tests, Black Jack is genetically related to Brown Turkey. Without seeing the skin on this one, can't say what this is definitively - what is your source? Unless this was picked before fully ripe, based on the inside, this actually looks like a Brown Turkey. Black Jack is darker on the inside. See: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Anyone-recognize-this-mislabled-fig-5997979

Subject: Nubie Question: Is September a good time to root? Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 921
 
I root year round.  There's no such thing as a "bad time to root".

Subject: best figs for drying? Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,020
 
Celeste is AWESOME dry. I have some pics around here circa 2009 or so of Celeste that I dried on my desk at work. Turned out superb, tasted a lot lw a fig newton. Very easy to dry also - I left mine whole, sitting on my desk, for a week or so, worked awesome.

Subject: Anyone recognize this mislabled fig Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 919
 
Black Jack is genetically related to Brown Turkey per UCD Research - they both have a large void in center. Big difference is that Black Jack looks like a winner - almost like Violette Soleis - till you cut it open. I sent a Black Jack to a forum member in SC year before last and I've seen the fruit - looked awesome - void not that large, but it was there.

Subject: another fig id, please Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 566
 
Looks like a Celeste vatiany with some unique leaves.

Subject: Big figs Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,273
 
I had a brown turkey with figs that big. Seems the bigger they are, the worse they taste, if you ask me. There *is* such a deal as "too much of a good thing"

Subject: Rookie Question Bag Method Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 674
 
What he said ^^^

"Care to death" is a reality when rooting from scion.  It is way too easy to overdo/overthink/overfeel it. 

Subject: An Introduction! Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,228
 
Unknown large fig most likely is Brunswick.  Leaves would help everyone confirm.  Brunswick is one of a few varieties that has distinct leaves.

Subject: Help with Fig ID Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 935
 
Found it!!  Here you go:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Landlord-chopped-down-my-fig-tree-last-year....-5766478?highlight=landlord+fence

Subject: Help with Fig ID Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 935
 
I've seen pictures of this white fig with Negronne-like leaves posted before on this forum twice or thrice? 

If memory serves correctly, last person to post was from the PA area and was living in a rental house where there was a fig tree growing up under the fence and the landlord cut it down.  They were asking for advice on what to do.  I ... might be mistaking it with another person posting a Kadota, which this definitely is not.

I can't find the thread, sadly.

Subject: Rookie Question Bag Method Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 674
 
See:  http://figs4fun.com/basics_Rooting.html

Also see:  http://figs4fun.com/Rooting_Bag_New_Style.html

There are also a bunch of individual threads around here, but they're not as well laid out as the above.

Just don't overwater your material.  That's a huge fail point.  Pre-moisten mix where possible.

Subject: What are the opinions on Turface MVP? Replies: 36
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 4,370
 
It's not in garden centers because (I think?) it was actually created to dry out sports fields, so you find it at places that sell commercial landscape supplies, park field supplies, etc.  It wasn't originally created for gardening.

Subject: What are the opinions on Turface MVP? Replies: 36
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 4,370
 
JD did quite a bit of testing with this a while back.  'Turface' search on the forum brings up his threads on the subject, along with (I think) some input from master Al (tapla).

Subject: Just got back from Turkey... Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,339
 
I love you, Bob!  HAHAHAH

Subject: Just got back from Turkey... Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,339
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoosierbanana
Hey Jason you should learn to sharpen a butter knife on a brick, seriously. This thing would be good too, although I think you would need have it in checked baggage. TSA says wire is OK to carry on but saw blades must be checked.


If I were smart (hindsight is 20/20), I should have walked to the boat building woodworker across the street from this rocky ditch and asked for something to cut with, but that may have been equally challenging.  I found that nearly everyone in town speaks english except the native (private) boat captains and laborers who typically don't have interaction with anyone that doesn't speak Turkish.

Subject: Just got back from Turkey... Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,339
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stefpix
Couldn't you pull out a sucker or just break a branch with your hands and then make a clean cut later? very nice leaves....


Yes, if I had been able to find a zip baggie, and had some way to cut down the branch.  Most of the suitable branches were larger than my thumb, the smaller ones were limp/green because all three trees had been cut to the ground some weeks before.  I tried twisting, yanking out of the ground, I tried a butter knife, smacked one with a rock a few times, then I gave up.

Trust me, I tried a lot of different things in the ~5 minutes I had, and the ~5 minutes I spent the 2nd go around just before dark.

Subject: Genuine RdB Replies: 39
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,005
 
If that tree was actually worth $350, I would have mine under lock and key.  There isn't a tree on the face of this earth worth more than $50.  There are far too many adaptable awesome tasting trees out there.

 

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