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Subject: Taking cuttings Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 574
 

There is a ton of info here at the forum on the subject.  I recommend searching for the following terms:

  • storing cuttings
  • cuttings refrigerator (or cuttings fridge)
  • cuttings dormancy
  • non-dormant cuttings
  • cuttings advice
  • cuttings questions

You'll find a lot of info there that people will probably forget when responding here.

You can take cuttings any time and store them in a baggie with a humidity source (a fully wrung out paper towel) in the fridge, or leave the baggie out in a warm spot if you want to root them immediately. 

Most prefer taking during dormancy, but you can take while they have leaves, just clip off the leaf at the stem (leave a stub), bag them up (with humidity source) and come back about a week later, the leaf stem stubs will knock right off - this allows the leaf to separate naturally.

6"-8" is normal.

Also see propagation and rooting tips here: 

http://figs4fun.com/basics_Propagating.html

and

http://figs4fun.com/basics_Rooting.html


Subject: Just got back from Turkey... Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,339
 
Eden, the tree is in Foça, which is a small town near Izmir.

Ruben, they apparently cut the three trees down to the stump regularly, which is why it looks to be sprawling, and why it's so low to the ground versus the big bushy trees shown in satellite view.  Because of this, there really was nothing much more than 1"-2" to pull on, and while I'm a talented rooter, I'm not sure I could do much with that.  the tree needs to grow for a couple of months and have cuttings taken.

Subject: Just got back from Turkey... Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,339
 
Was very frustrating.  I'm sure that I could have smashed a branch in half with a brick, but when you're in a different country with a different set of norms and a different set of expectations, it's tough for me (personally) to jump in a ditch with a boulder and smash some wood in half, and then suffer the risk of getting popped with something like that in your luggage, you know?  I had a hard time with it.

Subject: Just got back from Turkey... Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,339
 

Got back from a 10-day trip to Turkey this Tuesday and have finally got situated, so I'm posting a topic.  I would also love help from someone/anyone going to or with family near Foça, Turkey to get something I saw there. 

My trip wasn't a fig-hunting expedition, it was a vacation, but I had my eyes open the whole time for interesting stuff.  Sadly, I didn't take a lot of pictures because there wasn't a ton of stuff I saw that was out of the ordinary.  Lots of green figs, not a lot of dark figs.  I'll post what I took just to share.

I want to say, I was seriously, seriously impressed with Turkey.  I hadn't expected such an open, friendly, crime-free, English-speaking, hospitable and inexpensively beautiful place to visit.  I have traveled all over the world... I would not hesitate to say that I have never, ever been to a place with such a kind, giving and friendly country.  Seriously.  (Not yet, at least).  The country had tons of melons, stone fruits and figs.

Our trip was as follows :  3 days Istanbul, 2 days Ürgüp (Kapadokya), 3 days Foça, overnight again in Istanbul, then home.  So, we did urban, desert/mountain, coastal, urban, then home.

In Istanbul, east of Hagia Sophia, there weren't a lot of figs.  On the west side, we found a lot more.  Sadly, we were only on the west side for the final night. 

Ürgüp had almost no fig trees.  Lots of stone fruits and melons, no figs.

Foça had a fig tree every 50 yards or less, and most properties had at least one, if not several (including restaurants and hotels).

Every breakfast looked pretty much like this, with green figs (abundant), heavy heavy seed crunch, nice rich, honey, figgy flavor, very different from the green figs we see on the east coast USA where we have no wasp.



We at a lot of sweets while in Istanbul on a short culinary tour.  I preferred the chee kofte, kibbeh and ichlee kofte, but when we got to the sweets, one of the things they had was unripened figs that had been candied in sugar water - I didn't like them, but I took a picture so I could share with everyone (also pictured: baklava, candied pumpkin/chestnut/black walnut/baby eggplant)



I found this fig tree which has (almost to the letter) the leaves of Ronde de Bordeaux.  I tried to take cuttings with a butter knife (couldn't find anything else), but I failed.  I couldn't find a knife or pruning shears at any alleyway shops or anything, and it really kicked my ass.  I was with three other people so I couldn't spend a lot of time on it, I still really really want cuttings of this tree. 

High resolution version:  http://i.imgur.com/wSq9i.jpg

Low res version:



The location of this fig in both satellite view and map view is here:





If anyone can assist with this, let me know (PM me or something).  I don't care if it's only tissue culture... I'm frustrated because I paid good money to get there and couldn't bring the one thing I really wanted back.  ;)

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Subject: How can I get these cuttings to survive until next spring? Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,147
 

No problem.

I want to prefix this with one note:  You must understand that some figs have one crop and some have two.  The early crop is called Breba crop and the late crop is called Main crop.  Breba often is in late spring or early summer domestically.  Main crop is often second crop which occurs from early fall to early winter.

Breba crop figs and Main crop figs are often different in shape, size, texture and taste.

With that said....

Your fig reminds me of Flanders.

Link:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/First-to-ripen-breba-2012-Flanders-5849425
And:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Beall-and-Flanders-breba-2012-5862050

It also reminds me of Longue D'Aout.

Link:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1270992117&postcount=5

I bet there are other folks here at the forum that would chip in and say it reminds them of something, but I haven't seen a lot of additional input from people here lately ;)

Seriously though, it's not a Brown Turkey and it looks like something other members here may be interested in!  Brown Turkey is really common and often not interesting to people, so I would definitely not tell people that's what it is (besides, it looks nothing like one).


Subject: My Brown turkey-type? in south sweden zone 7 Replies: 18
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 860
 
Not a Brown Turkey like anyone I've ever seen. Looks way better than a brown Turkey and leaves don't match the variety at all. Fruit doesn't really match either. DOn't be upset, it's probably a good thing.

Subject: How can I get these cuttings to survive until next spring? Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,147
 
Not a BT. Looks similar to my Flanders.

Subject: How can I get these cuttings to survive until next spring? Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,147
 
"So good" is not typically something you see when people are talking about Brown Turkey.  Unless you think sweet and watery figs are good.  I'd be interested to see pictures of the fully ripe fruit, both whole and cut in half longways.

1) Most guys avoid heating pads.  Putting them on top of your fridge is usually sufficient, as long as temps stay above 55º-60º, they should strike and root just fine.  70º is ideal for my rooting trials, and anything over 80º is overkill or detrimental to rooting.  The only time I've ever used a heating pad was during the ice storms we had in Atlanta a couple years ago, and it was under the outside of the plastic bin, and all of my figs were an inch off the floor so the cups or bags never came in contact with the actual pad.  Opinions vary on that one.

2) See #1.  I'd add that I kept mine on a timer and kicked it on for a half hour, off for a half hour.  I was just using a typical bed/medical heating pad, though.

3) There is a plethora of rooting info here at the forum and at the main Figs4Fun website - have you read it?  Start here, with the top entry: http://figs4fun.com/Growing_Tips.html

3a) Grow lamp... overkill.  Figs are practically weeds.  They don't require special treatment.  A little humidity, a generally clean environment, a stable temperature, and NOT overwatering the soil you're rooting them in.  Get those right and you're good to go.

65º is fine - this is the ambient temp in my house during winter.  Above the fridge or inside the entertainment center (with my STB, Tivo, etc.) usually stays warmer, so does the laundry room.  Get creative and don't get stuck in this mindset that it's so rigid.  Again, figs are virtual weeds.  They don't like to be babied.  You'll ruin more by caring too much than you will by not caring enough.  There isn't any hardcore science, and if you can get to a 30%-50% success rate on rooting, you're doing better than many.

Don't think about it so hard and you'll do just fine.

Subject: southern brown turkey Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,615
 
VS is the initial of the original source.  Marseilles Black is not the same as Hardy Chicago, and Petite Negri is different as well (that is closer to VdB/Negronne, but still different).  Sal is similar to HC or MB, but different still (some may have originated from a small area of Sicily, but I don't want to start a debate).  All four are great choices.

Marseilles Black ... you'll need to get it from a collector, since it's not typically found in retail sale (I've never seen it for sale anywhere).

Subject: Near Atlanta: Anyone looking for Sal's Corleone? Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 857
 
Man, I would love to share pics of my Turkey trip, but those are at home (later).  Sadly, I won't have a lot of figs to post, there were too many to shoot when we finally found them and none were overly interesting to me, except ones I found at market which resembled Violette Soleis, but I failed to find a mother tree.  Lots of green figs there, not much dark (not where we were).  More on that later, Frank!

On the topic of split versus not split, it may have a lot of bearing on how well your soil drains (i.e. overall irrigation).  So, for Dom, who is using self-watering containers with an overflow (I think?) he is probably getting more evenly watered.  Frank, for you, if they're in-ground, maybe you're more loamy-soiled in your neck of Tallahassee?  I'm using regular potting soil in stock flimsy pots with no special irrigation method - if my pots get overwatered, whatever doesn't pass out of the hole in the pot gets to the tree.... and some of my trees are rooted right out of the pot, into a raised bed, which tends to hold water also ... so ....

Subject: How can I get these cuttings to survive until next spring? Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,147
 
70º seems to be an awesome general temperature to root for me.  Humidity is an important factor, and so is NOT overwetting your soil - they hardly need any soil moisture, excess wetness will lead to rotting and many people over-wet on their first few batches.

Don't commit to planting your Brown Turkey in the ground (if it's really what you have), they don't taste very good compared to most other fig varities.

Subject: List of figs that split with rainfall Replies: 29
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,065
 
Gina, I think it seems to be more commonly that it's from the moisture sucked up by the roots. 

Dom, I got my Sal C from a very well-known and reliable source, and it has split pretty consistently.  Dennis (snaglpus) and 71GTO both have had similar experience, and Dennis' weather was roughly the same the last couple of weeks, here's his result on Sal C:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Near-Atlanta-Anyone-looking-for-Sals-Corleone-6009087

Subject: E bay seller,selling false Ronde de Bordeaux. Replies: 106
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 7,324
 
Dom, the lowest leaves on hard wood on your tree are true to variety - it is better not to judge new leaves on green growth, especially during rapid growth.  This is one thing I agree with Dan_la/Dan Abadie on completely - speed of growth seems to impact the shape of leaves to a degree.  My green growth on RdB (top growth) can vary to look a log like VdB/Negronne, but almost all the grey-wood growth is true to variety.

None of the leaves on the variety the eBay seller has posted are true to variety - which can mean it's not varietally correct.

However, his fruit is absolutely NOT a match to RdB.  If the fruit doesn't match (if it's that far off), it's absolutely not varietally correct. 

His fruit in the auction looks more like Paradiso, Sal's Corleone, Brunswick, etc.  I'd say Paradiso because the leaves are long and fingery like Brunswick on the lower growth, but it also has some fatter leaf shapes, and the red stripes down the side remind me of what I've seen of Paradiso.

I like how the eBay seller has posted "Ronde de Bordeaux family" as if there is such a thing?  I'm not aware of a "family" or even "variants" of Ronde de Bordeaux - you either have Ronde de Bordeaux it or you don't. 

Subject: List of figs that split with rainfall Replies: 29
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,065
 
Frank, this picture definitely reminds me of the giant man-eating flower from Little Shop of Horrors, or maybe even the Piranha Plant from the Super Mario Bros video game.  It is a bit freaky.

Subject: List of figs that split with rainfall Replies: 29
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,065
 
I thought it could be a good idea to start such a topic. 

I'm in SE USA.  We have rain, like much of the rest of the east coast.  I've been hunting for varieties that DO NOT split open (explode) if we see some rain just before or during ripening of the fruit. 

I'm going to come back and update this list as I see them explode, but for now, I have a few to list - if you live on the east coast (Herman, Dom, Dennis, etc.), please feel free to add list of varieties that split during east coast rains.

* Salem Dark
* Sal's Corleone
* Deleon
* Black Mission (a local variety - I've heard there are some that don't split)

Here's a picture of a split Salem Dark, in case anyone needs a reference to what splitting looks like (must be logged in to see picture):




Subject: E bay seller,selling false Ronde de Bordeaux. Replies: 106
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 7,324
 

Seller is clearly misrepresenting, and it's a extremely unfortunate.  I hope eBay takes it seriously, last thing you need is misrepresenting scammers on your site... much less ones that will illegally ship products across state lines using eBay as the conduit.  If the complaint about fraud doesn't work, then I'll submit another complaint about the user illegally shipping plant material across state lines, which is something they can easily look up based on the buyer locations.  If this guy wants to play hardball, I'm game (I've got nothing better to do than to have his eBay account shut down if he insists on defrauding people over something we care deeply about - may he be forewarned).

Clearly the fruit isn't Ronde de Bordeaux (it's not solid black and small/round), and anyone that has looked in botanical literature knows the true RdB leaf has five long, skinny fingers with no "thumb fingers" and no protruberances down the long fingers, as it is described in literature dating back dozens and even hundreds of years.  Here is my sample which I know is Ronde de Bordeaux, it's buried in with a few of my other trees (the true RdB leaves are circled in red):

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Subject: Encanto Fig Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,158
 

Curious what the leaves look like.  The coloring looks a lot like my Negronne (breba and main), with resemblance to Vista, Petite Negri, Violette de Bordeaux, etc.


Subject: Near Atlanta: Anyone looking for Sal's Corleone? Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 857
 
Dennis, your experience looks very similar to mine.  I think this tree would do very well if it were in a self-irrigating container like what Bill Muzychko @ Bill's Figs has (see: http://figs4fun.com/bills_figs.html ) , or if the root zone/root plate had plastic over it during the weeks of ripening to prevent overwatering conditions.  If you can manage to get ripe fruit like what you have, the inside is beautiful, and this fig is about 20% larger than Sal's (EL/Gene) with a similar (less tart/raspberry) flavor.

Subject: Near Atlanta: Anyone looking for Sal's Corleone? Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 857
 

The tree is spoken for.  Thanks for being part of an awesome community, y'all.


Subject: Fig Tree Identification Assistance Needed Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,362
 
Could be any number of things... I am surprised nobody else in the NE USA has jumped in and commented.  I'm on the fence... there are a number of similar varieties out there that ripen right around the time this one is.

Subject: ID Help Please Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,233
 
Any sharpness/acidity to the berry flavor?  How rich (brown sugary) are they?

I agree with Pete that this looks like what people typically refer to as a "Mt Etna" fig (the mountain in Sicily) - those typically have five lobe leaves with a few frills, fruit no larger than an old silver dollar, dark skin, dark interior, just like what you picture above.

I'm not willing to commit to it as a "final answer", but this still reminds me of Hardy Chicago, especially if you look at that full-grown leaf hanging near the base of the trunk - the 2nd set of lobes on HC are often smaller and jutting out at a hard angle like that.

The fruit size, shape, color matches a lot of "Mt Etna" types.

Subject: Deleon, Black Bethlehem, Unk Owensboro first main crop 2012 Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 982
 
Sounds like a good woman ;)

My 23-month-old daughter is my fig litmus.  If she'll eat it, and I like the taste, it's a keeper.  She went nuts for Negronne, Owensboro and Sal's (EL/Gene).  She wasn't so jazzed about Flanders, Sal's (Corleone), Brown Turkey (Monrovia), so those are going or gone.

Subject: Near Atlanta: Anyone looking for Sal's Corleone? Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 857
 
TREE IS TAKEN ALREADY, THANKS!!

I've been generally unhappy with the rain (in)tolerance of my 2~3 year old Sal's Corleone, which is about 6'-7' tall and a trunk about as big around as a cardboard toilet paper tube. 

To date, like Salem Dark, this variety it has consistently split any ripening fruit on the tree with the slightest bit of watering or rain that comes within 1-2 weeks prior to fruit being fully ripe.  Rather than cut this up into chunks and send it around to other folks, I thought I might offer it up to one of the regulars nearby that may be interested. 

Eden13?  Heymikey?  Strudeldog?  Newnandawg?   First dibs go to Eden13 or Strudeldog, anyone else is welcome to jump on it. 

To be clear, I'm willing to give this tree to anyone that's a regular F4F participant - by that, I mean I want to hook up anyone that joined more than a few months ago and has improved this forum by posting and sharing a bit.... assuming you live within 30-45 minutes of Atlanta for easy pick up for delivery. 

Otherwise, I'm going to chop it up at end of season and send cuttings around.

Subject: Deleon, Black Bethlehem, Unk Owensboro first main crop 2012 Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 982
 
I have a feeling it's going to darken up a bit more before ripening.  Yours looks fairly larger than the one I posted just before you, and slighly larger than my one above.  I haven't been taking that great of care of my trees this year (not as great as I could have), which probably speaks to a lot of my smaller fig sizes this year.  I'm going to rebuild my tree farm this winter, root prune, and up-pot as much as humanly possible with hopes of better years next year.  Everything in my collection is exceeding 1"-2" in base trunk caliper and really needs to be in 15gal-25gal pots.

Subject: southern brown turkey Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,615
 
If you don't have one already, go with their Hardy Chicago (they label as "Chicago Hardy").  You absolutely will NOT be disappointed if it's true to label.  It's another 8/10 or 9/10 taste variety.  Celeste is a 6/10-7/10 for me in my climate, the different variants can be hit or miss.  I can't speak to Alma, but Frank (forum member FMD) raves about his all the time, so ... tossing it out there.

Subject: southern brown turkey Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,615
 

Welcome to the forum!

I avoid all figs with "Brown Turkey" in the name because I've got so many Brown Turkey variants in my area, almost all of are watery/sweet and I'd rank them at a 3/10 on their absolute best day, but typically a 1/10 or 2/10.  Contrast that with other popular figs like Negronne or VdB that are readily available and in the 8/10 or 9/10 taste category... seems fruitless to bother.

I can't speak to what Rolling River has, but I'm skeptical that they say "Brown Turkey is one of their favorites", it's the most asinine comment I've ever heard and I have yet to meet a serious fig junkie that thinks a regular old Brown Turkey tastes half worth a damn. 

I've tasted figs claiming to be "Southern Brown Turkey"... and were less than desirable on flavor.  I've also tasted "Improved Brown Turkey", the Brown Turkey that Monrovia puts out (I just hacked down my Monrovia tree a few weeks ago), "Eastern Brown Turkey", "English Brown Turkey" and several other trees that were clearly Brown Turkey Variants but had no name. I've got about 75 non-Brown Turkey variants in my collection to compare against on flavor.  After tasting and disliking so many Brown Turkeys (even when ppl said "this one is different!"), there's just no point any more.  If it tastes good and it's labeled as "Brown Turkey", then ... it's mislabeled!

People around here call me a Brown Turkey hater... it may be fair, but I've probably tasted about 100 different ones and I'm with Jon... they're mostly worthless. 

I'd skip it, personally.  You'd be better off picking Hardy Chicago, Celeste, or Alma from Rolling River's selection (possibly one or two others).


Subject: Black Bethlehem 2012 Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,529
 
Pic of one I harvested today (first time mine has cropped): 






Subject: Deleon, Black Bethlehem, Unk Owensboro first main crop 2012 Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 982
 
Dom, JD's Bethlehem Black I seem to remember was much lighter as well just before it got ripe, but his was in full sun, my fruit is up under the leaves.   JD's thread:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Black-Bethlehem-5895729

I checked Bass' site and notice that he has two different pictures of it, one is very black with skin cracking, the other is more like the one above, lighter, not quite black - reminds me a bit of a really good Celeste on the flavors and somewhat on the shape. 

I picked a "dead ripe" Bethlehem Black this morning, barely noticed it due to the size, which was barely as large as a quarter.  It's a bit darker, and, honestly if it would've sat on the tree another day, it would've begun to rot.  Pics:







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Subject: Did I kill it? Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 789
 
Just want to agree with Luke.  This happened with one of my VdB while away on vacation (thanks mom and dad!), but I expect it will bounce back with proper water and attention.

Subject: Not Enough Sun Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 707
 
I have had trees in full shade all day, and know of several nearby trees just the same.  They ripen just fine and taste just as awesome. 

Don't buy into any hype about sunlight.  I know there are probably people will swear you must have at least 4-6 hours for "proper" ripening... this hasn't been my experience.    I may not have varieties that require this, but I have several awesome tasting varieties and many have ripened figs in full shade (last year), still some of the best figs I've ever tasted.

Subject: Deleon, Black Bethlehem, Unk Owensboro first main crop 2012 Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 982
 

After returning from 10 days vacation, with some rain and ripeness, a few figs had exploded (esp. Sal's Corleone and Deleon), but I was able to pull and sample three varieties on their first main crop figs.  These are all from 2-4 year old trees.

LARGE fig:  Owensboro (possibly Sal EL)
MEDIUM fig:  Black Bethlehem
TINY fig:  Deleon (normally 4x larger)

I had a larger Deleon fruit that had exploded after the rain we got a day or two prior and you see this one is splitting... I ate both anyway, and they were pretty damned good.  Melon-y sweet light fruity flavor on both Deleon.  The Owensboro was more like berry jam.  The Bethlehem Black reminded had a strawberry-grape sort of flavor to it, it was picked a bit early, I'm hoping for some flavor variance in one that's more ripe.  None were extremely rich, which I like, but they made up for it in complexity of flavor.  My favorite was Owensboro.

I like all three of these figs and look forward to trying more later.  All three trees are good, possible keepers so far.









Bethlehem Black:


Owensboro:


Deleon:


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Subject: "Unknown Owensboro" Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,235
 
Meanwhile, here is a pic of my main Owensboro tree (see red arrow), and here are the leaf shapes and unripe fruit for Owensboro.  Note that the fruit is affected by FMV (or whatever virus cocktail my trees have), it reacts to the virus same way that Sal's EL/Gene and a few other trees do.













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Subject: "Unknown Owensboro" Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,235
 
I have several main crop figs on my Negronne this year (tree is ~8' tall), will let you know later.  My trees ripen figs through December, sometimes later.

Here is a dead-ripe pic of an Unknown Owensboro.  I'm still working on the leaf pics.







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Subject: "Unknown Owensboro" Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,235
 
@shah8 - Negronne is awesome in our area. Search te forums for topics with "Negronne" (in the subject only) an you'll find my thread with pics from this year.

@Ruben - pics to come tonight.

@luke - maybe the parent tree has different sun conditions or something? Maybe the fruit in Bill's thread is breba and this is main crop? Could be climate related as well, he is in KY, I'm in GA, different climate and USDA zones. Could be an issue of age and health of the tree as well. I really have no clue, I just root what people send me ;)

Subject: "Unknown Owensboro" Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,235
 
Original thread about this fig is here:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Hardy-Chicago-5023931

I wanted to create a unique thread for this fig in case anyone else was interested in it - I know I've handed out a few trees to members based on cuttings I got from Bill and grew.

I'm almost convinced that this tree is a Sal's EL/Gene, it's extremely similar to my Sal's EL/Gene, to the letter.  The potted tree acts, tastes and looks nearly identical although the production of my younger tree looks a bit different from Bill's pics.

My main tree is ~6ft tall right now, trunk caliper almost 2", most branches at 3/4" - 1" calipre.  I pulled one fig off my tree before leaving on vacation a couple of days early.  I pulled one yesterday that was well ripe (not dead ripe) and it was pretty good.  The flavors were like a light berry jam, nice and sweet.  Little seed crunch.  Soft, jelly insides.

Here's the most recent fruit I cut off.

Like the "actual" Sal's EL/Gene that I have, this tree holds up very well to rain.  I have figs splitting all over the place on my Sal's Corleone and it's worthless if you get the least bit of rain while the figs are ripening (explosion central).

Owensboro is a good fig in my book so far.  Negronne and Hardy Chicago are still higher up on my list, but this is one that I plan to keep in my collection if it turns out NOT to be a Sal's EL/Gene.






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Subject: Espalier, sort of Replies: 35
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,747
 
Questions, as I've started an Espalier at home recently:

1) How high off the ground is it suggested to start the horizontal branches?

2) Is there an easy way to get two branches to pop out at the same height to do the horizontal runs, or do you just get lucky?

Subject: UC Davis Vernino Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,799
 
Can wait till mine fruits!

Subject: Some tips on up-potting Replies: 33
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,350
 
Now is a great time to up-pot as any, but two notes: 1) i suggest you don't fertilize in process, that may encourage new growth, which is not something you want this close to end of season and 2) you may not want to up-pot of fruiting is in progress, although I haven't had a huge issue with it personally, it's just something to be considerate of.

I intend to up-pot my trees next month, if not, I'll do it in May. Still undecided this far.


Subject: Fig Paradise here we come. Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 715
 
(PS - hope you guys have fun in SD!!)

Subject: Fig Paradise here we come. Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 715
 
Fig paradise, ha! I've been in Turkey the last week (hence why I've disappeared a bit). I'm in Fo├ža right now, along the coast, tons of fruit...Istanbul and Urgup didn't have many fig trees. Been trying to buy some pruners for days. Tried cutting some branches today with a butter knife from the hotel - tree is in a ditch, low-growing, with long fingered leaves like RdB. Hope to get cuttings. The locals think I'm absolutely nuts. I love it ;)

Subject: Hardy Chicago? Replies: 27
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,985
 
I am heading out of the country and noticed I had an Owensboro 2-3 days from ripe. I had to pick it tonight. I will say, this think acts just like a Sal EL/Gene in my climate - in every way. It also tastes very much like it, it has that bright, acidic raspberry flavor that sort of shocks the back of your tongue in a good way. I like it.

I am creating a unique thread for this standout fig, you'll find that here:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/quotUnknown-Owensboroquot-6008102

Subject: Unknown Kirkland - ID Help Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,139
 
Shaping up to look sort of like Brunswick. Anxious to see the ripe fruit.

Subject: Bulls What??? Replies: 16
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 962
 
This has been confirmed as BT in the past. There's a thread about it around here somewhere at F4F that discusses its history.

Subject: I lost my fig parnter Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,496
 
Sorry for the loss.  I hope you're able to plant a tree in her honor.

Subject: Bitter Sweet Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 966
 
Lower back sounds like QL (quadratus lumborum) and the leg pain sounds like piriformus (common source of sciatica for truck drivers due to wallet position/sitting)

Subject: what to do with big cutting Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 950
 
(oh - and cut the leaves off, then break the stems off a couple of days after going in the bag)

Subject: what to do with big cutting Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 950
 
Cut to 6"-7" lengths and read this carefully and fully: http://figs4fun.com/basics_Rooting.html

Subject: JT or BT? Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,130
 
Looks like a BT to me, through and through.

Sorry bro, looks like you got suckered, and that really sucks.

Subject: slow growing tree Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 610
 
Think about it just like you would with planting veggies - any time after tax day is just about perfect - risk of freeze after tax day is typically minimal.

Subject: Too late to air-layer? Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 789
 
Also, here is a picture of the two Sal EL/Gene airlayers I made ~4 weeks ago (7/28) with plain old soil. I'll cut them off this week, and I like to cut off with about this many roots, although I know some guys around here wait till the bag has so many roots you can't see the soil anymore.

The first two pics are at 20 days after (weekend before last).  The last couple of pics are from Saturday, about 27 days after (this Saturday).  If you notice, pics 1 & 3 are the same shot/same side, so are 2 & 4.









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