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Subject: Air-layering/grafting figs Replies: 31
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,741
 
Cut from the top down ;)

Subject: ID Help Please Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,233
 
Celeste is good!  But we've already ID'd two of your figs as Celeste, I'd feel bad if this was another one ;)

Subject: ID Help Please Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,233
 
Good news: not a Celeste.  L

Subject: Negronne breba and main crop Replies: 39
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,905
 
Bummer indeed.  I guess you didn't get the plastic container around it?

Subject: oh fig whizzes! Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 652
 
What is confusing?  Those figs just look generally similar to me as far as their leaf shapes fruit shape/size/exterior/interior.  No comparison on flavors.

Subject: Non-Fig unknown plant help Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 820
 

Alocasia, Colocasia... ?

Similar to:  http://www.briansbotanicals.net/product.html?id=102


Subject: grafting Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 992
 
Lots on this posted in the past.  Search the forum for COCKTAIL.

Thisethos is often called a "cocktail" tree, although I have heard it referred to as "orchard" tree as well.

Subject: Black Jack Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,296
 
This is a fine time to check Jon's variety database (click MORE PHOTOS link for more pics)

Blackjack:  http://figs4fun.com/Var_B_info.html#BLACKJACK

You may want to bookmark the Variety database http://figs4fun.com/Varieties.html

Subject: New find for me Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 858
 
Definitely a BT.  Looks nice, though.  Good find!

Subject: One fine flavor Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,475
 
Man, what happeend to that guy?  Haven't seen him all year.  He's one of a couple I've been thinking about lately that totally cracked me up.

Subject: oh fig whizzes! Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 652
 
Similar in leaf shape and fig appearance to Hardy Chicago, Sal EL/Gene, Marseilles Black VS.  Appears to be a Mt Etna type.  Can't give a definitive ID, though.  Lack of void inside the fruit rules out Sal Corleone.

Subject: Golf Course Find on a HOT Day Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,176
 

Bob, you kill me ;)
(in a good way)

Those leaves look awesome, I'd grow it just for the foliage.  Hope it doesn't turn out to be a caprifig!  Good luck on the property!


Subject: Negronne breba and main crop Replies: 39
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,905
 
Oh - and here, see post #1, VdB, which is possibly same or related to Negronne, this is a dead ripe fig:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/EL.-VdB-5976165

Subject: Negronne breba and main crop Replies: 39
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,905
 
@Nichole, I've seen the "sack" comparison made here or on GW before and I have yet to find a better description.  While possibly off-color, it just ... fits perfectly.  If that choice of comparison bothers you, feel free to shoot me a PM discretely, I'm happy to better understand how to communicate in a more suitable manner in the future. 

I personally don't like to let mine get up to that point, either ("dead ripe").  I like them just in the middle between nicely ripe (where yours should be today/tomorrow) and dead ripe.  Here is a thread of mine ripening (Negronne, which is same or related), post #31 was perfectly ripe for me:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Negronne-breba-2012-5862021 .  To keep animals off, you may want to consider following this suggestion:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/protect-your-fruit-and-recycle-5348530


@Cecil, I respect almost all members of this forum, including you.  I don't hang out, help and share with people I don't have respect for and I don't make offers to edit my words for people I don't have respect for.  Brother, nothing in this post was intended to be disrespectful, but if you personally need me to edit something here, let's discuss (you have my personal email and can also PM me), I'm willing to work with you on that.

Subject: please rank these figs! Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,078
 
You can't go wrong with Negronne either.

Do you currently have any fig trees, or are you preparing to start growing?  It's not clear.

Subject: Last effort to have this ID'd!! Replies: 25
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,235
 
My Beall UCD is tri-lobe leaf, purple skin, med size fruit, purple outside, tan/yellow in... Could fit.  I have one from UCD, just planted its sister tree at my neighbor's house last month.  


Subject: Last effort to have this ID'd!! Replies: 25
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,235
 
Looks kinda like Beall also.

Subject: Negronne breba and main crop Replies: 39
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,905
 
Do I need to edit something, Cecil? You can always reach out to me directly, I'm not unapproachable.  I dont see anything crazy, but we all have our threshholds.

Subject: One fine flavor Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,475
 
I'd eat it.

Subject: Kathleen's Black Replies: 40
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,840
 
I KNEW IT!  IT'S A BROWN TURKEY!  ;)

Subject: Wilmington Figs Replies: 26
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,085
 
Leave looks like HC, fruit looks like Sal C.  My opinion.

Subject: Negronne breba and main crop Replies: 39
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,905
 
minimum 2 days (nicely ripe), max 5 days (dead ripe).

at 2 days it should be drooping at the neck and skin start wrinkling.  at 5 days, it should probably look like an old man's ballsack.  You want to pick before it gets much farther than that.

Subject: One fine flavor Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,475
 
Looks like a butt.

Subject: Not the trendiest varieties, Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,328
 
If I ate that for breakfast, I'd be on the crapper until lunch.  ;)

Subject: New Plants Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,155
 
Don't don't be shy... Worst thing that may come is you'll need to source a new tree or two.... ;)

Subject: Kathleen's Black Replies: 40
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,840
 
Dennis, this is my Black Mission.  See any similarities?  Note: these were picked after a heavy rain, and the ones with brown interior also had the most split flesh, so ... keep in mind that the one with the least splitting and pinkest interior is the typical sample from this tree.

http://goo.gl/r8hmy

That is why I'm asking if you're sure it's not a Black Mission.  BTW - my BM also hs freckles until the fruit is just passing ripeness.  Pics were taken with Blackberry, you can't see them so well.

Subject: Kathleen's Black Replies: 40
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,840
 
Sure that's not a Black Mission?

Subject: How to search the forum using 2- or 3-letter terms Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,522
 
Suzi, that feature exists here too, sort of, only they call it "subscriptions" instead of "clippings". 

With "subscriptions", you can bookmark any informative post you want in three easy steps.

Step 1:  Save the post to your subscription list by clicking the Subscribe button in the bottom left-hand corner of the thread, shown here -



Step 2:  Go into the control panel to look at your list of saved threads.  This is done by first clicking the Control panel link in the top right-hand corner of the forum as shown here



Then clicking on the Subscription tab, as shown here:



You can also remove a thread subscription by putting a checkmark next to the thread in the list shown in that last picture and choosing "Unsubscribe" from the 'select an action' dropdown at the bottom of the list.

Does this help solve your dilemma?

Subject: Bees on my figs Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,738
 
Oh, and here is another protection method similar to what Bob is suggesting - if you haven't seen it, give it a gander!  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/protect-your-fruit-and-recycle-5348530

Subject: Bees on my figs Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,738
 
Viv, mason bees are much smaller (like 1/6th the size) of a carpenter bee and about 1/4th the size of a bumblebee (carpenter bees are ~50% larger than bumblebees)

Subject: New Plants Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,155
 
I just planted three trees in-ground last weekend - all were 2nd year trees. 

The important thing to remember this time of year is, if you should plant, remember to water at least 2x per week, and check daily for droopy leaves, which can indicate underwatering or excessive sun.

Planting in April-May is great for mid-to-north GA as Eden already brought up.  I'm just impatiend and wanting to get a start on a new espalier attempt.

Subject: How to search the forum using 2- or 3-letter terms Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,522
 
The method above will work with any page that Google has crawled across and indexed, and it can take you directly to the page # containing the search terms, which is something the forum search feature cannot do (not that I'm aware of). 

You may even find that it will work for pages that have been deleted by the owner months or years ago if you use the "Cached" page features of Google.

To use the "cached" page feature, when you search, you need to make two clicks in the results list.  See below, I have searched for "vdb breba" specifically on this F4F forum.  On the first result, you'll see I clicked the >> next to the link/description, then click the "cached" link which should appear, in that order.  (Shown in order #1, #2 below).

This will pull up the page Google saw the last time it crawled this forum.  "Cached" pages work whether or not the source website is online, so if F4F ever goes offline, this search would still potentially work to show content.

(Note 1:  If you have a link to an old website that's no longer online, you can also use the search feature at http://www.archive.org to pull up those old webpages!  Note 2:  If Google has no "cached" page, the >> will appear next to the results, BUT there will be NO cached link visible where #2 arrow shows)


Subject: Sal's Corleone scion Replies: 36
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,262
 
Gina, I just want to say thank you!

As someone who has given away cuttings to a lot of people, I have endless appreciation for those who keep the original sender updated with progress of the cuttings they sent.  It reminds me that I haven't been doing that enough the last year or two.

Subject: No Abbreviations... Please Replies: 71
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,255
 
On a positive note, here is more info on how to be a "power searcher" here at F4F or anywhere else on the web!:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/How-to-search-the-forum-using-2-or-3letter-terms-5972738

Hope this helps someone else out.  I've used this tactic more times than I can tell you.  If you've ever noticed I will come through and link people up with threads all the time ... like pulling a needle out of a haystack ... that's pretty much how I do it.

This should negate the discussion of acronyms and abbreviations if used as indicated (I hope).

Subject: How to search the forum using 2- or 3-letter terms Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,522
 
No problem.  Thought you might want to sticky this one, but not sure if it would got a ton of visits/use.  This is really, really handy info to have for everyone, so sticking it to the top of the forum list... would save a lot of people time using the (ugh) native search feature and trying to remember the keywords to find this thread.  Heh.

Subject: How to search the forum using 2- or 3-letter terms Replies: 23
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,522
 
Based on recent threads, I wanted to show folks how you can harness the power of Google for searching this forum (and only this forum) rather than using the very simple forum search.

As you may or may not know, you cannot search for common words, 2-letter words and 3-letter words using the native forum search.  This can be overcome using Google to search the forum.

Google supports several "operator" keywords that let you customize your results.  There are several operators:  'filetype', 'site', 'cache', 'link', etc. 

If you want to search a specific website using Google while ignoring all other websites on the internet, you need to use the 'site' operator.  Simply put, in the search box, you'll put [site:SITENAME SEARCHTERM] into the search box, like this:



NOTE: There is NO space between "site:" and the website address, but there IS a space between the .com and each subsequent search term.

So, if you wanted to search the Figs4Fun forum for "VdB", you would type in the following bold text (feel free to copy/paste):

[i]site:figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com VdB[/i]

You can use as many terms as you want, so if you wanted to search for info on how to air layer it:

[i]site:figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com how to VdB air layer[/i]

In a normal search with the forum's search feature, it would have ignored every word except layer, and you're damned sure not going to get what you want that way.

You could further refine your search by putting quotes around phrases you want to search for.  So, for example, you could search for:

[i]site:figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com VdB "how to" "air layer"[/i]

That will search the F4F forum for only the threads containing the word VdB, the phrase how to and the phrase air layer

Google has some pretty powerful search capabilities, this is just one of them which will probably be most helpful here at the forum where many things may get abbreviated.

Subject: No Abbreviations... Please Replies: 71
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,255
 
And one othER point - we aren't all great spellers here.  Some of the tougher names:

Marseilles
Anything "Bordeaux"
Madeleine de Deux Saisons

If search ability is the real issue, how are you supposed to did when many misspell these?

At least if you abbreviate the name, you can still search forum-specific using Google (I can show you how. Will make a thread about it!)

Subject: my three amigos Replies: 27
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,063
 
Love this one.

Subject: No Abbreviations... Please Replies: 71
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,255
 
Task task at hand for you, Figo:

Please show me a thread that has nothing but abbreviations.

This is your main assertion, bit for the life of me, I absolutely cannot find one.

I just want to make sure you aren't throwing down the gauntlet over a problem which doesn't even exist.

Subject: No Abbreviations... Please Replies: 71
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,255
 
No problem, bud.  I don't think anyone here is sweating.



Subject: Bees on my figs Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,738
 
Jus noticed you're waaaay down there.  Maybe not enough chill hours for you to keep mason/orchard bees?  Not sure....

Subject: Bees on my figs Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,738
 
Charles, both Phil (strudel) and I have them and we are both in the southeast.  They are native everywhere.  You don't even need to but them, you can just put out a properly outfitted home and they'll nest.

Subject: Fig identification Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,165
 
That appears I be the main crop - evident because it is producing figs on new green growth.  Some produce an earlier crop on old hardened wood.  Expect those to ripen in 10-18 weeks 

Subject: Introduction Replies: 16
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 929
 
Awesome, formal intro, here's a formal welcome.  Glad to see you hanging out.

Subject: Bees on my figs Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,738
 
All the info you could want or need is at this site:

http://www.beeguild.org/mason.htm

It appears that the masonbees.com website is down right now, but the WSU site (linked on that last link) provides a ton of info.

Refrigerator is required to keep them dormant over winter.
They like holes with only one entry about 2"-3" deep or deeper and 1/4"-3/8". 
A lot of people just take pressure-treated 4x4s, cut them a foot long and drill lots of holes in one side. 
You need to clean out the nests yearly (after the young have left).



Subject: Fig identification Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,165
 

There is no way to know definitively based on what you posted.  We need to see ripe pics of the ripe fruit - both whole and cut in half with something like a quarter or other coin for reference.  This will be your best chance of getting an ID.  I will say, it does look edible, and I have my suspicions that it's a Celeste variant.

Welcome to the forum!


Subject: Bees on my figs Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,738
 
Oh, and CH, you have a mix of carpenter bees (not bumblebees) and honeybees on your figs there.  Carpenter bees have a large black dot in the yellow area on their neck, bumblebees don't.

I've never seen honeybees and carpenter bees munch on fruit like that, only yellowjackets!  Maybe you should plant some Anise or Speedwell nearby to distract them from your figs (it will work, especially Anise, trust me!)  My guess is they're in it for the sugar.

Subject: Bees on my figs Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,738
 
Mason/orchard bees are everywhere in the USA.  They're native pollinators and are exponentially more effective at pollinating than honeybees - some estimates are that your average mason bee pollinates 10x to 20x more on average than a honeybee, but I've seen estimates as high as 100x more pollinating ability than honeybees.

Important to remember:  Mason/orchard bees are NATIVE.  Honeybees are NOT NATIVE.  Mason/orchard bees don't have problems with colony collapse etc.  Native pollinators are far more significant!



Subject: No Abbreviations... Please Replies: 71
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,255
 

I appreciate the humor and all, and I'm glad to see some lighthearted notes here.

I will say this: 

Frank, I don't know you well, but from what I can tell, you have the same love as we do for the same stuff, and that's powerful.  I really appreciate everything you contribute, even the the suggestions - could live without CAPS LOCK in the post subjects, but that's another story ;).  I hope you stick around and share, regardless of what is said in this thread or whether or not any changes come out of it.

For anyone who doesn't know and might not think it from his firm posts in this thread, Rafed is one of the most giving people at this forum, both in real life, virtually, and it doesn't stop at handing out free cuttings and trees.  There are dozens of forum members that have met him in person and can vouch for what a wonderful guy he is.  Dude has reached out to me a few times to put my ass in check when I get a little pushy with some folks about their conduct on the forums, I've met him in person, and he's given and traded more with me than I can express, enabling me to share with tons of other members.

That said, Rafed has a very valid point, and I think Martin has expanded on that point very well ("don't know who Jason is yet? stick around..."). 

All of us had a learning curve coming here the first time, and I personally don't think it's too steep --- clearly, dozens of new people come on board year after year who get the hang of it.  Learning goes hand in hand with any online community, especially forums, and it takes time and interaction.  A lot of us heavy-participaters LIKE that it takes time and interaction, because that's what separates the die-hard fanatics from the fly-by-nighters, because it's the die-hards and fanatics that keep this place going, and keep it awesome.  We need that die-hard passion and curiosity to keep this place alive, I feel like (when you dumb things down) you run the risk of taking that "something special" out of the community.  Just my opinion, of course.

There have been practical and impractical suggestions over the years I've been here.  Such as ...

* Identify all of the abbreviations at the end of fig names:  That would be awesome to know where everything comes from and what the abbreviations mean, but then you open a can of whoopass for those sources, and you may end up killing the availability of many and exposing a number of private collections.

* Stop using abbreviations instead of the full variety name:  You're asking people who are already contributing to do a lot of extra work just so every possible human - whether truly interested in our passion or not - can completely understand what's being said without a second thought. 

There have been a host of others, but you know what?  I don't feel like typing them ;)

I think all of the regular faces at F4F are generally open to suggestions, and I think everyone should continue to put them out there.  I appreciate that someone thinks enough of this forum to make suggestions on ways to better the experience for everyone (so, thanks, Frank!)

But for me ... while I appreciate the suggestion, I'm not going to stop using the phrase "BT" for Brown Turkey.  Personally, I don't think enough of it as a variety to waste time typing the whole name out.  I have that much contempt for it.  Part of me can't help but think, "I had to figure it out ... why can't everyone else?", but ... meh.  I'm not gonna go there, because that's just my selfish side talking ;)


Subject: Sal EL/Gene and Hative d'Argentile breba 2012 Replies: 2
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 725
 
Thanks, these are both good quality figs, Martin.  I was happy with both. 

I firmly agree with those before me that have said Sal EL/Gene tastes better than Sal Corleone.  I even think NdA/HdA tastes better than Sal Corleone.  Sal Corleone has a cooler name, though ;)  Both NdA/HdA and Sal EL/Gene hold up to rain - we've gotten an inch or two the last week and it didn't affect these guys at all.  I hear that Sal Corleone has problems with rain.

 

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