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Subject: fig cuttings durability Replies: 4
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Basically, if I see wrinkling along with redness, the cuttings probably aren't so viable.  I've seen some pretty miraculous stuff, though.


Subject: Guess Who Is Waking Up Replies: 9
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My Malta Purple Red and Raspberry Latte decided to wake up this weekend.  Nothing else is quite there yet.  It's basically start of February and we've seen hardly any chill hours this year at all.  I know we're going to get slammed... this is the kind of winter that zapped a good portion of Ray Givan's collection.  I think my figs will probably spend the winter indoors growing this year.


Subject: Inadvertently met a couple of F4F folk today Replies: 6
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That's ok, those guys are way OTP also, I think I'm the only one stupid enough to live in the heart of the city ;) 

The scion swap event was planned through the Atlanta_Fruits Yahoo group.  Click on the link to join the group ... as long as your not one of those douchebags that's always getting your email account hijacked ;).  Someone on the list had theirs hijacked the other day (weak email password or something) and sent out a link to the entire group that attempted to infect the computer of everyone that clicked it.

The group is low-traffic (less than a dozen posts per month, usually) and mostly comprised of Atlanta folks, but we have people that live 2+ hours away from Atlanta that post from time to time.  There is discussion of having a yearly grafting class and scion swap around this time of year annually from here on out.  We'll see if it happens.

Subject: Inadvertently met a couple of F4F folk today Replies: 6
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 947
 

I'm totally open to putting trees on your property, guys.  Just let me know what, when and where ;)


Subject: Inadvertently met a couple of F4F folk today Replies: 6
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 947
 

I've been up to my ears with work, travel and kid this last couple of months and have been all but dormant on the forum etc. 

 

Someone local to me planned a seed/scion swap less than 1.5 miles from my house this weekend and I was urged to attend as "the fig guy", so I showed up.  I was stoked to get a chance to meet F4F members strudeldog and heymikey there.  I suspected heymikey was coming, but didn't know I'd get to meet strudeldog as well. 

 

Either way ... Nice to meet you guys, hope we get a chance in the future to meet up and show off each others' collections.  You guys have way more property than me, so mine probably won't be as impressive.  ;)

 

 


Subject: Growing figs in Central Europe Replies: 27
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This is a most interesting setup.  Thanks for sharing.


Subject: Caring for Rooted suckers over winter Replies: 14
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,106
 
Nicely moist may be a problem.... During dormancy, plants hardly "drink" anything. You may be drowning them.

Subject: Caring for Rooted suckers over winter Replies: 14
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,106
 

Having no issues with my rooted cuttings in a similar situation:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1271711290&postcount=32


Subject: Leaf browning Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 899
 
Many plants have problems with leaf scorch. This is part of the reason "hardening off" is common practice. If I don't gradually acclimate my tomato and pepper plants (started indoors), they will also leaf-scorch and die. Just a fact of life for many/most indoor-grown plants.

Subject: Leaf browning Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 899
 
I agree with Martin. Leaf scorch is caused by moving a plant into direct unfiltered sun when it was previously not in direct unfiltered sun. Never seen it caused from stress or transplanting, unless the transplant was into full sun after not being in full sun before.

Subject: New Fig Tree!! Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 929
 
Congrats! If bought at a nursery chain, I sure hope it isn't mislabeled. That happens quite often. Pics of the figs could help folks here ID it.

Subject: Leaf browning Replies: 13
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 899
 

Looks like leaf scorch to me. 


Subject: Look at that itty bitty fig! Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 736
 

yes, it is semi-frequent.  yes, you need to snap it off.  it will drain energy from the cutting, potentially killing it.


Subject: very little to contribute.... Replies: 11
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 685
 

you can always contribute your experience, which is something that not even the fig elders here can have ;)


Subject: Playing around (rooting) Replies: 45
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,196
 

leaf blower.  had to take apart and put back together the engine one it twice, but ... it still works. 

 

i use a sharpie to write on my baggies.  I don't badge the cuttings till they are transferred to pots.  with an average root strike rate of ~65-70%, i need to save all of the labelling i can.  abbreviating names in a way that is easy to understand is your friend as well.


Subject: Playing around (rooting) Replies: 45
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,196
 

Luke, I've got a P-Touch labelmaker made by Brother (Use Google to search for "P-touch").  It cost $20 at buy.com and the labels are like ... UV resistant, fade proof, they won't strangle the plant, the plant can grow for years without the label being broken.  Look at the smaller plants in the last couple of pics and you'll see them.  I stick them to themselves when I pot up the plant, around the base of the stem.  All labels include the plant variety name in capital letters and the source in lowercase just after.  Works like a champ!

 

Figs and mulberries are indeed related.  Main difference is that the buds on a fig are more round, and mulberry is notably traingular.  I had an experience early on trying to propagate an "unknown fig" which ended up being Morus Alba or Morus Rubra (I forget).

 

On the hours ... this is typical for indoor growing and I believe for hydroponics also.  18/6 or 16/8 is a typical cycle; if this were outside, the sun would be providing much more nutrient and fulfillment, so 16-18 hours would be overkill... under a grow rack with cheapo insignificant lights, increasing the hours I'm using aren't a problem.  I've been growing all of my indoor winter plants and seedlings with this for years without problems....


Subject: Fig shufffle in january. Replies: 5
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I feel your pain, but I gave in.  Just being in the garage the last couple of days (it's cooler than outside), I see that I have a few buds breaking... Ugh.


Subject: Playing around (rooting) Replies: 45
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,196
 

Any of y'all who know me know how much I love coming back and updating old threads with new pictures.  Here's an update of the same trees pictured in post #18.  About 4 months has passed.  Obviously not growing horrendously fast only getting 18hrs of fluorescent lights all day, BUT obviously progress is being made.

 

 

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Subject: Rooted cuttings dropping leaves Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,583
 
If all the leaves don't fall of... Don't worry about it.

I haven't found it unusual to drop an immature leaf or two or three. It happens in nature also, you just don't notice. If you lost half the leaves or half of them... Be concerned....

Subject: Is winter over???? Replies: 28
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,485
 

It got over 60 today.  I was wearing short sleeves.  We literally went from an afternoon high of 37 three days ago to 73 today.

 

That's crazy.  sinuses are killing me.


Subject: Faking winter. Replies: 18
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,095
 
@Vince, I think that's roughly 65-70 trees altogether, half are in 1gal pots in the rear.  Sadly, I have 15-20 more trees actively growing in the basement on the other side of the wall from the white car pictured.  So, they've rolled over to inside the home also.

@Bill, that's my car, I'm not about to put my new (to me) BMW outside to endure the elements, I need my warm seats in the morning and no ice on the windshield.  The wife's SUV is the missing vehicle, and I think blood may be shed if I asked her to put it outside! ;)

Subject: "De La Reina MP" a promising variety Replies: 58
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 8,634
 

Black Mission was the first thought to my head as well.


Subject: Faking winter. Replies: 18
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,095
 

Yeah, this is my garage.  We've been at 18°F the last two nights.  Wife not happy, but I mean, gotta do what you gotta do ....  

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Subject: California Brown Turkey?????? Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,445
 

My Brown Turkey produces fruits that large, it's from Monrovia.  The larger fruits like this taste thin and watery, not much figgy flavor. 


Subject: New Member Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,146
 
I wouldn't pick either of those varieties. You will be disappointed.

Welcome to the forum! I recommend you post here to find out what would be best and most flavorful for you. You really cannot trust agricultural info these days, you definitely can't trust nursery folk to tell you straight, but you have a forum here full of fig junkies that push the boundaries that ag departments and nurseries will not to find the best figs for our areas - I can tell you the two picks you chose will grow well, but Celeste is only "OK" tasting (assuming the nursery even labelled it correctly) and generally anything with "Brown Turkey" in the name tastes like crap.

Subject: New Member Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 734
 
Welcome!!

Subject: My New Years Resolution Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 711
 
I made a new years resolution to never make a new years resolution ever again. This was several years ago, and I've stuck to it. Never been happier in my life ;)

Subject: New Barter Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 936
 
Rcantor: Yes. ANY "live" plant material is illegal to ship out of the country without proper permits/authorization. And there are supposedly stiff penalties if you get caught. "Ignorance to the law" means nothing to authorities.

Tokechan: Nobody knows for sure what happened to George K (that im aware of), but it is clear he was under investigation for importing and exporting fig cuttings to/from his country. His Hotmail account was deleted or frozen, and rumor is the authorites popped him for multiple incidents. Just something to be aware of if you're shipping cuttings to other countries.

Subject: roots, wood, no nodes - what are my chances? Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 693
 
Sage words from Herman. Heed them.

Subject: New Barter Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 936
 
Sorry I would, but it is highly illegal for me to ship from the USA to Indonesia. I was tempted by your last post asking to trade, but the last thing I need is to be fined, arrested or added to a monitoring list. I remember what apparently happened to George K in Australia for shipping to the USA...

Good luck with your search!

Subject: Merry Christmas Replies: 15
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,564
 
Sal ans the others who celebrate, Merry Christmas to you and yours. Happy Hannukah to the fellow candle-lighters out there. May you all be blessed this season and in the year to come. Much peace, love and happiness to all.

Subject: nematodes in topsoil Replies: 8
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I'm afraid nematodes are like FMV.  Once one pot or plant gets infected, you deal with it forever.

 

Knowing what I know now, I would have never purchased a plant from a nursery and simply stuck with cuttings.  Starting to seem like nematodes are inevitable once you get a single plant with them, quite frankly.


Subject: Squirrels spreading nematodes (RKN) Replies: 3
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 662
 
Here's another reason to hate squirrels.

When getting my trees ready for winter, I pull the tree out of the pot by the trunk to check the roots.  I found that two trees I purchased at the end of 2010 were RKN infected, it had progressed pretty badly, too.

I had a lot of problems with squirrels digging in my pots this year until I built a shelter for the pots to stay in.  I'm sure you know where this is headed....

In checking my trees prior to winter, I found a couple of them that showed initial signs of RKN, but only near the TOP roots, which is strange, most seem to start from the bottom (ground side) up.  I started flipping through pictures I've taken and noticed that the trees which had problems were placed around the purchased trees that came with RKN infected soil.

So, basically, it seems that squirrels were digging in the infected pot, then digging in my clean pots and transferring RKN over ... OR they were digging and kicking infected soil over into the clean pots.

Either way, it sucks, it's BS, now I get to airlayer trees, and I have all the more desire to kill every damn squirrel that comes on my property.

Subject: 30 Miles Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 924
 

James,

 

Unfortunately, I can only find information suggesting that trees will BREAK dormancy based on soil temps, and that's what searches are turning up.

 

I am finding a bunch of info on "temperatures cooling, changes in day light/day length", but nothing definitive.

 

I'm pretty sure that ground temps climbing above 40°F initiate wakeup, so I'm inclined to believe that temps dropping below 40°F would also set in dormancy.

 

I also found info that suggested the leaves on trees have a built-in "temp gauge" that, given certain air temp, the leaves would send the signal to the plant to enter dormancy.

 

Not a botanist here...

 

I know seed break in many varieties is triggered by ground temps also ...

 

I'm inclined to believe length of day is less of a factor than ground temps.... but I also think that the presence of microclimates and concrete has the largest influence.


Subject: Stark Bros. - Brown Turkey - what is it? Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,106
 

I would be asking myself whether or not that picture is legitimate.  Doesn't look like any BT I've seen, but also looks like a "stock" picture they snatched from anywhere.


Subject: 30 Miles Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 924
 
I think many folks (speaking in general, not to you directly, James) understimate the crazy microclimates that are caused by asphalt, concrete and masonry. 

Tapla could probably elaborate more on this, but it's my understanding that trees go dormant based on the temperature of the roots.  When your roots are protected by a thick layer of asphalt and concrete - which absorbs heat all day and emits that heat all night - you can create wild temp increases of 15º-20º or more both under the ground and several feet above it. 

Meanwhile, many of us guys at home have our trees planted in open land, with nothing but grass and soil atop the root plane, no nearby masonry or stone walls... or planted in pots with plastic walls less than a millimeter thick, easily allowing cold to penetrate to the roots.

In Atlanta, 98% of my trees have gone dormant.  However, the potted trees I have sitting right up against my house and below the dryer vent (up on the 2nd story) are still as green as can be.  They get heat from the dryer vent and heat emission from being right up against the concrete & granite foundation of my home on the south- and west-facing walls of my home (they're in the corner).

Just for S&G, I took my two-zone wireless thermometer and put sensors on the sides of the pots closest to the house and the pots farthest away (in the same bed) and on a 30º night, the pots next to the house (less than 18" away) never saw temps below 43ºF, while the ones 7' away from the south-facing wall saw the true temp of 30ºF hours before sunlight broke.

Subject: Rooting in a bag, NEW Style Replies: 109
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 11,555
 

Oh, and I would add to this that ... I found a much higher success rate (after-potting survival rate) by using less perlite - specifically, I had good success with using 50% or more pre-moistened potting mix with very little added perlite in the bags.  I also found it helpful to carefully up-pot BEFORE the roots manage to exit any hole in the bag AND before you have dozens of roots showing all over the bag.  I was up-potting when I was seeing as few as 3-4 roots that were at least 1"-2" long, rather than waiting till I had a dozen or two dozen roots that were several inches long in that thread I just linked.


Subject: Rooting in a bag, NEW Style Replies: 109
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 11,555
 
Hey Vince,

You shouldn't need to water much at all. 

For my experience (two pages worth), see:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/My-2011-cuttings-progress-....-5137445

Subject: White powder on dried Spanish Figs Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 4,054
 

I think this is what is being discussed:  http://static3.depositphotos.com/1004288/206/i/450/dep_2068281-Dried-figs.jpg

 

I see similar when I'm in Europe, but it seemed to be really prevalent in La Boqueria (a Barcelona market).  Many of the dried figs looked dusted.  The insides are way sweeter and richer than the skins on the ones that I ate, so I don't think it's sugar crystalate from inside the fruit leeching out and drying.


Subject: Behind sending cuttings Replies: 16
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,063
 

I don't even remember who the hell I'm supposed to give cuttings to this year, so you're still miles ahead of me ;)


Subject: Fig Hedge Replies: 54
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John - any progress to add to this thread?  Curious to see how you're getting along!


Subject: How may one promote lateral growth? Replies: 18
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,911
 
PS - I'd love to have that as a hedge around my house.  I wonder how John (GeorgiaFig) is doing with his hedge?  I need to bump in order to get updates ;)

Subject: How may one promote lateral growth? Replies: 18
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,911
 

If you look closely at the Japanese espalier work above, you will see that they left two branches intact.  It gives a good indication of the growth habit.  One comes off the first row of trees about 2/3 of the way back on the right, the other one is on the second row of trees about 2/3 of the way back on the right.  Follow the pattern and the diameter of the branches that are cut off on the left-hand side, that's a pretty good indicator of the branch color and diameter.


Subject: Rooting in a bag, NEW Style Replies: 109
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 11,555
 

LOL.  I hope you didn't take my words as a lecture.  What's obvious to me may not be to others. 


Subject: new roots turning brown in ziploc bag Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,047
 

Hate to break it to you, but those aren't roots (you say roots in title).  That's 'barking' or 'white fluff'.

 

Nothing to worry about, but as mentioned, cut it out with the water.  You just need humidity, not wetness.

 

Don't move to cups till you see more than one or two roots 1/2" long.


Subject: Jh Adriatic Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,063
 

Dan, I feel ya.  I had mine in full shade and picked it a day or two early, over in this thread

 

This fig changed my mind about green-skinned figs.  It was one of the best figs I've ever tasted.


Subject: Rooting in a bag, NEW Style Replies: 109
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 11,555
 
All you had to do was look at the third picture at the link in Jon's first post (of this thread).  It's this picture:

http://figs4fun.com/fpix/FP515-84.jpg

Take the product number off the front of the bag (S-1331).  Punch that number in at http://www.uline.com and that's the exact bag he is using.

Subject: Anybody ever try grafting multiple grape varities on a single vine? Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,047
 
I haven't tried it (mine are too small), but I would think you'd need to use varieties that require the same type of pruning.  i.e. if you're starting with a variety that requires cane pruning, I wouldn't graft on a variety that needs spur pruning.

I'm a grape newbie though, so don't take my word for it.

Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukeott

Hello Jason,

What water? The water for watering the plants?

 

Yes.


Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
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Sorry I just edited the post to restore the picture - look again.  Stupid forum bug nabbed it away.


 

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