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Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 

Here's a picture of my setup from about 15 minutes ago:  The rear plant is actually about 2" off the rear pair of Philips plant & aquarium bulbs @ 2700K.  I'm hoping to give that one to a forum member in the near future, though, so it may not be there for long. 

 

What temp you should grow at (2700K / 4100K / 6500K / 10,000K+) depends on the type of plants you're growing.  I don't know what figs need specifically, but 2700 has worked well for me - inspiring growth and leafing, but not producing a leggy plant.  The Philips P&A lights I've used are at 2700K; I think GE's P&A lights run up as high as 10,000K.

 

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Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 
The little flies I believe Martin is referring to are fungus gnats, the bane of every indoor grower.   The sticky traps work with limited success but the best solution I've found is adding fragments of mosquito dunks to your water.

Figs I give 6"-10" of space from the light. Veggie seedlings grow more uniform so I set them less than 2" away with no burning or scorching. I will take a pic of my current batch in a few.

Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 

Jose,

 

I'm worried about leaf scorch.  I'm pretty sure you already know what leaf scorch is, but just in case .... this is what happens when unfiltered UV-heavy sunlight hits a leaf that hasn't been subjected to direct sunlight outdoors:  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/This-is-what-quotleaf-scorchquot-looks-like-5304488

 

You normally don't deal with this if your trees wake up from dormancy out in full sunlight.  I'm afraid I may have scorch problems with sun scorch from trees that have been under fluorescent lights and pushed out into full sun.


Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 

I'm concerned that leaf scorch will be a problem.  The amount of UV from these lights is like a miniscule fraction of what the sun would put out.


Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 

Yeah, the only reason I found it is because I knew I'd posted pictures of my setup somewhere, so I searched for the word "lights" in posts started by my username.  It returned four threads, which really limited the field from the 73 you get just searching for "lights" alone. 

 

In my first post on that thread (the one with no pictures) I supply part numbers and whatnot, Home Depot still carries the Lithonia fixtures here, not sure about your location.  The two-bulb fixtures are only $10.  What will kick your ass is the price of the bulbs.  They last a long time though.

 

I have 14 trees under that setup right now and they're growing great.  I'm going to give a shot at growing them under lights until spring, then putting them out, since I haven't done this yet.  I'm curious to see if they'll stunt at all. 


Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 
Please see this thread from last year on the same subject for my growing setup and other suggestions: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Dormancy-Broken-Looking-for-Growlights-5075757

Subject: Battaglia is a winner. On THANKSGIVING DAY ! And One Final Time On Dec 12... Replies: 21
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 2,074
 
Tasty looking! Happy thanksgiving, Nick!

Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 
I use 40w fluorescent plant and aquarium bulbs. 18 hours on and 6 off kept about 10" above the top of the plant.

Subject: Grow light recommendation Replies: 42
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,988
 
Any plant & aquarium bulb will suffice.

Subject: Do I owe someone rooting bags? Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 928
 

Ok, well.... I'm going to assume that there wasn't another person.  Now I'm thinking I was supposed to send someone 200 bags ;)  Ah well.


Subject: There's A Hole In My Fig Tree... Replies: 8
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Normal. Branches are hollow inside, filled with a soft pith. When you breach a node the pith goes away and ... You have a hole. I agree with Martin ;)

Subject: Do I owe someone rooting bags? Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 928
 
I could use a Pratts Purple. Wanna trade? ;) ;)

Subject: Do I owe someone rooting bags? Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 928
 
My words created a debt of expectation ;)

Subject: Do I owe someone rooting bags? Replies: 7
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 928
 
(Note:  Eli, yours are en route and should be there soon)

Life has been absolutely insane for me the last couple of months.  Haven't been posting much because of it.  2-3 months ago, I talked to at least 3 people about the long open-ended bags from Uline that Jon uses, and offered to ship some 100-packs of bags to them.

I brought four packs to work.  I can't figure out if it was because I was supposed to send one person 200 bags and the other two people 100 bags, or if it was because I was supposed to send 100 bags to four people.

Two people got their bags, one pack is en route.  If you PM'ed me or emailed me to ask for this last pack of 100 bags, please get in touch so I can drop them in the mail for you.

Subject: Soft, felty leaves Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 755
 

Looks tasty, nick.

 

I should clarify (I'll go back and edit):  I have several figs with soft/fuzzy undersides, but Unknown Morley is soft/fuzzy on the bottom *AND* top of the leaf, which is what's weird to me.


Subject: Soft, felty leaves Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 755
 
So, as my 90-100 trees go into dormancy this month, I made an observation about my unknown "Morley" tree while 'helping' shed leaves. In feeling it, both the top and bottom of the leaves feel soft and fuzzy just like a nice velour cloth. I have no other tree in my collection which has this trait. I didn't notice it until the leaves yellowed.

Has anyone ever experienced this with other trees? If yes, which?

Subject: OverWintering Concerns Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 889
 

It would be helpful to know what the average temp of this garage is during the deep of winter.


Subject: Well, damn... Replies: 6
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 594
 
A couple are nothing but thin green shoots and leaves. Like my Daupine that was so generously shared with me a couple months ago. Keeping fingers crossed, hope you guys are right!

Subject: Well, damn... Replies: 6
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 594
 
Left my trees (large and small) out last night.  According to my phone when I woke up in the morning, it was 31º outside and had been there for about 2.5 hours.  It climbed back up to 34º within the hour, but everything was subjected to freezing temps for at least 2 hours.  Not sure if frost set or not.

Hoping this didn't kill off some of my smaller plants that are less than a couple months old and thin/short/not very well developed.

Subject: Barnisotte, Calvert and Sucrette from UCD? Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,288
 

Good luck with Calvert from UCD, I had zero luck rooting, but someone I shared my UCD cuttings with had good luck and offered a re-share (Make note people:  SHARE YOUR CUTTINGS!)

 

Herman, can you compare Calvert taste and quality to JH Adriatic or any other Adriatic variety?  They look very similar to me in pictures.

 

Daniel, I got my Barnisotte cuttings from Richard Watts' collection, and he sourced from UCD.  They're heavily FMV affected and slow to start, with very mutated leaves to begin with.  This is like many varieties you'll get at UCD, though.


Subject: Cutting Size ??? Replies: 5
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 968
 
Any size will root.  I personally prefer cuttings that are smaller in diameter than my thumb and about 7"-8" in length with at least two full nodes.

As a rule of thumb, I always cut a quarter inch BELOW the joint on the bottom of the cutting and a quarter inch ABOVE the joint on the top of the cutting.  Think of the space between joints as an "energy container", and each joint (line) on the cutting is like the end cap of the container.  If you breach the container (the joint), the pith inside will eventually rot and the cutting will hollow out.

Subject: Anyone know where I can buy an Adriatic and a Kathleen Black? Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 905
 

I second JH Adriatic.  I cannot compare it to a regular Adriatic, but I've had JH Adriatic - one fig on a first year airlayer - and it's one of the best, berry jam flavored figs I've ever tasted.


Subject: Tree rats Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,158
 
PS - for examples of my enclosure, see:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Made-some-shade-today-5235884

That's inside a raised bed I built.  Read the whole thread and look at all the pictures to see how it morphed and grew.  Hope it helps.

Subject: Tree rats Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,158
 
I had to kill a family of them recently that managed to find the only 1"x4" hole in the entire perimeter of my roof and nested in my guest bedroom wall.  They were chewing on the interior of the walls and shredding my insulation.  I was piiiiiissed!

Every local area has laws with regard to trapping, shooting, poisoning, relocating, etc. so you need to find out what is legal in your area if it is a concern for you.  In GA, you can kill them if they're actively damaging your property.  There are a myriad of methods to be used to catch them.  Hav-a-hart makes a respectable trap, as does Squirrelinator, I've used both with some success.   I've caught a couple with oversized classic rat traps and peanut butter but you need to drill a hole in the trap and tie it to a stake or they will run off with it.

Things I can tell you DO NOT work:

- Sprinkling cayenne or other pepper/mace on the soil.
- Building innovative traps (they figure it out eventually).
- Motion-activated water sprinklers.
- Owl/Hawk/other bird of prey decoys.
- Scarecrows.
- Noisemakers.

I had marked success this year keeping the bastards away from my trees by building a loose cage around my trees - I staked out an area with rebar, then took vinyl netting (like chickenwire) and made a mesh wall.  If they try to climb it, it isn't steady and they seem to fall off or something.  As long as you don't leave gaps and anchor or bury the bottom inch or so of the mesh, you should be good.  I'm using a 24"-36" tall mesh.

Subject: Anyone know where I can buy an Adriatic and a Kathleen Black? Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 905
 

Kathleen Black is not commercially available, you would need to grow from cuttings or buy a pre-rooted plant from an individual.  Adriatic is commercially available at a number of nurseries, that would be the most viable option.


Subject: My little baby fig trees Replies: 8
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 721
 

Looks good, keep it up!


Subject: When to start? Replies: 10
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,074
 

i just started another two batches a few weeks ago in Aug/Sep timeframe.  They're still going strong in the basement under grow lights.  ambient temp in the basement is around 65-75 year round.


Subject: root cutting propagation? Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,309
 

it would lead one to wonder, though....

 

if cambium in a root is required to make a shoot, and there is no cambium in a root, then how does a tree create suckers from underground roots?

 

some food for thought.


Subject: Need advice. Plants outside with green foliage but temp dropping to -6C !? Replies: 39
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,605
 

Man, I just noticed that temps are supposed to dwindle near freezing here in a couple of days as well :\

 

Explains why I had to introduce my 4-battery maglight to a family squirrels in the wall of our guest bedroom this weekend.  Little buggers seem to know the weather better than any of us.


Subject: root cutting propagation? Replies: 12
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,309
 

From what I have read here, it is not possible to start a tree from root cuttings.  You must have some "trunk" material available in order to grow more trunk.  I never investigated the science behind it - this may be a question for Al (tapla)


Subject: Need advice. Plants outside with green foliage but temp dropping to -6C !? Replies: 39
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,605
 

I would start taking cuttings now, just in case.... good time to start a new round of plants "just in case".  I have some of the trees you've shared cuttings with me on.  If you lose something, give me a holler.


Subject: Serrated leaf ?? Replies: 19
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,883
 

Verte and Preto


Subject: what happened to ... "question for dan_la" thread? Replies: 16
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,483
 

Thanks, figs or not, I enjoyed the post and definitely missed it!  I was hoping someone woulda copied it before it got dumped.


Subject: Please Don't Tell Me This Is A Brown Turkey... Replies: 17
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,183
 
Maybe. Need to see inside a ripe fruit.

Subject: Gino's Black Replies: 66
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 6,212
 

But I'm a fellow dark fig junkie that hates white figs!


Subject: I Think My Fig Is Bleeding... Replies: 20
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 923
 

Aww, that fig is weepin'


Subject: Gino's Black Replies: 66
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 6,212
 

JH Adriatic!  Good white fig.  If you want some cuttings this season, give me a holler in a couple months.


Subject: Gino's Black Replies: 66
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 6,212
 

These are bad pictures - I had to pick my only fruit that will mature full size from this tree because ants were devastating it.  The trunk is about 2" thick now.  There are a lot of pea-sized fruit still on it, some turning color.  This one didn't taste that great - needed about 3-4 more days minimum to finish ripening.  Ah well.  Maybe next year.

 

 

 

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Subject: Fig Season Came and Went Replies: 31
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,798
 

I do have one thing to say - I am happy to see that the airlayer I setup on one of my trees a few weeks back is pushing nice fat roots out to the sides of my water bottle.  Was RKN infected from the home nursery;  had to airlayer.


Subject: what happened to ... "question for dan_la" thread? Replies: 16
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,483
 

Just curious.

 

A new member, 'kngskid' posted a thread about persimmons that I was highly interested in recently.  New member.  Never seen this member before.  Magically, thread is deleted from the annuls of internet history.

 

What gives?

 

Where'd it go?

 

Member 'kngskid' shows having four posts, but when searching for all posts from this person, they don't exist.

 

Is there some reason this member decided to delete this thread?  Looks like something 'aeilee' would've done, to be frank.

 

I would love to somehow have this post resurrected with the information within.  I'd also love to know why it was removed by the original poster (kngskid - because Jon doesn't delete threads).


Subject: Mayday! ... strange wilt ... cuttings dying Replies: 26
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,709
 
A lot of people don't; leaving fruit on a young tree will stunt growth (takes lots of energy to create fruit). Unfortunately, if your tree doesn't have a trunk as big around as your thumb you probably want to pluck the fruits off to help get there. Juvenile fruits on a small tree usually taste lackluster anyway. Patience pays!!

Subject: Mayday! ... strange wilt ... cuttings dying Replies: 26
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,709
 

pinch.


Subject: Action speaks louder than words Dead good for nothing Coon(pic) Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,302
 

I know a certain fella down in Florida having a similar problem with coons.  Hope this ends your problem ;)


Subject: Large Pear Shaped Fig. Updated With Interior Photos. Replies: 9
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 937
 

I'm shooting for something Portuguese


Subject: Today's Harvest 2011 Replies: 52
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,407
 
JD,

Is it just me or does it look like something laid eggs in your fig, really near the eye?  (there are a couple in the other half also)

 

Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 
I'm keeping the faith!!

Subject: Late season Ischia Black fig Replies: 4
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 668
 

I had trouble finding the info on nematodes.  Lend a hand?


Subject: Today's Harvest 2011 Replies: 52
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 3,407
 

Ants have been getting the better of me.  I had to early-pick my first ever Gino's Black on Monday.  Didn't taste that great.


Subject: Unknown cuttings: "Hobart", "Schuyler", "Voiture #217" Replies: 97
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 5,971
 

Interior looks tasty.  Exterior looks immature.  Looks like a dwarfed Brunswick.


Subject: Winter of 2012 Replies: 22
Posted By: satellitehead Views: 1,642
 

Atlanta is paradise!  You just don't know it yet.  We have these things here called seasons.  I know this may be confusing to you, but they're amazing!  They're not too hot, they're not too cold, but they're really colorful, something to look forward to, but not drastic enough to dread, and something I know you don't experience, as a former San Diego resident ;)


 

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