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Subject: subirrigation containers and figs Replies: 68
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 9,267
 
Hey Duane ,
For Bill's Figs info go to the figs4fun.com homepage,on the left click on Growing Tips, the third selection down takes you to his container growing info, called Caring for Fig Trees.

If you haven't seen the Earthtainer site , it is very worthwhile.Look for the New Earthtainer III Construction Guide on the Gardenweb Growing Tomatoes Forum or on the Container Growing Forum .You have probably seen it referred to on the Inside Urban Green site.
Ray Newstead is the fellow who explains how to make the earthtainers and the soil mix he uses I think is 6 parts Pro mix BX( or Sunshine mix #4) and 1 part perlite(coarse or supercoarse I guess)

I have been using the organic equivalent of Pro Mix BX which for me in NH is Potting Mix from Ideal Compost Co. or FortLite Mix from Vermont Compost Co. mixed with extra perlite and various organic fetilizers , don't have my mix recipe in front of me right now.

Tapla (Al) who contributes to various forums has put out a lot of good info on growing in containers and I have learned a lot from that ,but I prefer to grow organically so I adapt what I can from his info.

Have to admit I don't follow the fertilizer banding idea for SIPS even though that is the recommended way for organic fertilizers as well. I make batches of my mix with fertilizers added in. Early or mid season side dressings of organic fertilizer may be left just on the surface . I also like to allow the rainwater free access to the containers , so I don't use a plastic mulch on top. Sometimes I even water from the top a bit before I fill the resevoir.
Even someone like me who doesn't always follow directions perfectly has good results with SIPS.
Thanks for sharing your Sips info and experience.
Can I ask what your most productive and reliable variety is ? I think we are in the same zone.
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: subirrigation containers and figs Replies: 68
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 9,267
 
Duane ,
Thanks for the explanation of how you make your SIP containers.

I have used the 18 gallon Rubbermaid totes to make veggie containers and thought of using them for figs , but I found they broke down from sun exposure after 3 years. I could have wrapped them somehow to protect from the sun , but neglected to do so. Perfect timing to root prune and change containers anyway.

Any pictures of making them ? I'll check on the Urban Green site.

Have you had a chance to look at the Bills Figs link on F4F. It is interesting how he makes the resevoir. He has a nice system for moving the heavy pots as well.
My thinking has been to keep most figs in 5 gallon SIPS until need to root prune then move into larger pot SIPS like Bill's , if they prove to be keepers.
I am growing all of mine using an organic approach. It has worked well for the veggies and it is all I've done for the last 30 years.
BTW , one thing I noticed , The variety Florea which I think Herman said really wants an extra well drained site , did not perform as well as others in the 5 gallon SIPS. It may be that those varieties where it is emphasized that they want a really well draining site may not be the best candidates for SIPS.
Or it could just be the overflow hole was temporarily blocked !
One Florea I have growing in an 8" deep bulb crate grew very well.
All other varieties I have loved the SIPS.
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Where do you store fig trees in Winter Replies: 20
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Ottawan ,
I guess you mean 41*F not 14*F in your post.

Subject: subirrigation containers and figs Replies: 68
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 9,267
 
Hi Duane ,
I think you are right sub irrigated containers are great. Been using them for 6 or 7 years.
Almost all my figs are in sub irrigated containers , 5 gallon bucket version. And a couple in 20 gallon sub irrigated pots copied after the containers shown in Bill's Figs link here on the F4F site.

This is only my second year with figs so I can't say much about comparative production of figs , but I have 60 buckets (sub irrigated) of veggies that are so productive , I figured same approach would be good for figs. 

Perhaps even better would be what many have mentioned here ,a sort of container/in ground planting hybrid : pots with many holes in sides only , planted in ground after soil warms and dug up for storage for the Winter.
If I had garden space , I would do this.
Look forward to hearing what you are doing.

Welcome to the forum.
Best,
Kerry
Zone 5 NH

Subject: Where do you store fig trees in Winter Replies: 20
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,949
 
Bill ,
The barn basement would be better if I could afford to make a more insulated room inside of it. As it is , just to get maybe one degree of additional protection , I hung across the "ceiling" and made "walls" of some extra wide floating row cover that I had around for garden purposes. That makes a sort of room for the figs ,floor is dirt and the side with no partial soil berm gets all the snow bermed against it with the snow thrower. Last Winter it got down to 20*F , this Winter 26*F , the snow berm making all the difference,I think.
No pictures so far , probably for the best as it is a bit of a mess down there.
Greenhouse frame 30 x 48 stored there (no land to put it on , so sold, to be picked up this Spring) and greenhouse benching , some used for driveway garden.

I think you are correct about the longer days here being helpful in ripening figs. Don't get the heat , but the extra light helps. Last summer was perfect here, warmer than usual , but all my figs were to young to produce.
Hope this season is similar to 2010 here.
Kerry

Subject: Where do you store fig trees in Winter Replies: 20
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,949
 
Paully ,
I never expected to have 40 or more varieties , but forum members are so generous with trades and gifts, and sometimes there are irresitable cuttings for sale.
Over the next few years with a tiny bit of self control I hope to whittle it down to the 10 to 20 best performers for my area and situation.

I've toyed with the idea of planting some pots of my green/yellow varieties at a community garden site, hoping most people wouldn't know when they are ripe. It is a little too far away really.

For now it is just the driveway and sub irrigated pots.
Extra young plants of the hardiest varieties get sold when I sell veggie seedlings in the Spring.
Best ,
Kerry
drivewayfarmer
Zone 5 NH

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
geofiz ,
Just read again the Figs in the Pacific Northwest article you posted , I think in the Figs for Very Cool Climates thread.
It is very helpful with the pruning for breba or main crop info especially, even though I am in the Northeast.  Great article altogether.
Thanks,
Kerry

Subject: Where do you store fig trees in Winter Replies: 20
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,949
 
Paully ,
My fig storage in NH-Zone 5 . Lowest outside temp so far minus 15*F

Barn basement- 3 sides 3/4 soil bermed  -   45 -  5 gallon sub irrigated buckets and 2- 20 gallon sub irrigated pots.
Lowest recorded temp 26*F - highest 35*F

Insulated bulkhead to house basement -  15 - 5 gallon sub irrigated buckets of breba cultivars or youngest/most prized varieties.
Lowest temp 34*F -highest temp 45*F.
Small space heater used to keep above freezing.

House basement under lights -  100 plus cuttings.

Self control - 0

Kerry

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Geofiz ,
Hope you have good luck obtaining and rooting the Lampeira cuttings.
It would be great if another cultivar became available with breba that could rival Desert King in quality and hopefully production.
 Best ,
Kerry
Zone 5
NH 

Subject: Large Negronne Replies: 2
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,035
 
I have the variety Large Negronne from Jon .
Does anyone know much about this variety and whether it might do well in Zone 5 ?
Does it require more heat than it is likely to find in Zone 5 ?
If it is the same as Violette de Bordeaux , does that do well in Zone 5 ?
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Geofiz ,
Have you been able to find cuttings of Lampeira to trial in comparison to Desert King ?
Seems to be a hard to find variety in the States .
Kerry
Zone 5
NH

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Thanks for your reply and pics geofiz .
It gives me a better idea how to handle my DK , even though mine are in pots like Ottawan's.
Best ,
Kerry
Z5 NH

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Paully in post #12 you mention pruning hard.
Does that mean something like cut back by a half or a third or ?
Do you have a rule of thumb on how hard you normally cut back DK after fruiting ?
Thanks ,
Kerry

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Glad I started a DK last Winter so I'm closer to tasting what sounds like a great variety. To potentially have some figs in July in New Hampshire would be tremendous.

Would like to try the Adriano variant of DK to compare to DK (RT) from Jon.
Maybe I could trade with one of you folks who has it.

Still not quite sure about how best to prune. Nas , when you say be careful with the pruning what have you decided on as best ?
I will get another started so I can alternate pruning hard as paully mentions.

The main reason I'm concerned about pruning is because this DK (RT) from Jon seems to be a very vigorous one. Most of the bush is 4 feet tall after one season , but one side that wants to be more of the leader is closer to 6 feet after pinching twice. It is in a 5 gallon sub irrigated bucket.

Best ,
Kerry
Z5 NH


Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Herman and Paully ,
Thanks for the reminder about pinching.
I was glad to learn about the whole idea of pinching since reading the forum for the past two years. I know it is critical to getting ripe fruit in zone 5 especially.
I did pinch twice last season , so this DK has 11 tips. 

After the breba crop ripens , should I prune it back by much ? Don't want it to get too tall.

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Herman ,
Does Desert King breba form only at the tips or can they grow wherever there was a leaf last season ?

On my year old DK , if it does form breba should I limit the number it tries to ripen ? If it forms 2 dozen it that too much for it to ripen and stay healthy ?

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Ed ,
The version of Desert King you got rid of , how much difference in production was there from the version you kept ?

Any ballpark idea of how much fruit I might expect from a well grown one year old plant of Desert King ? It is about 4 feet tall , bush form with 3 main stems

Have you found it best to prune just after the breba crop has ripened ?
How far back do you prune it ?

Thanks ,
Kerry

Subject: Best Desert King strain ? Replies: 29
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,537
 
Anyone know if there is a strain of Desert King considered most productive ?

I have a Desert King RT from Jon that is just a year old , so no fruit yet.
High hopes for some nice breba this year. Have it stored where it stays above freezing .

Kerry
Zone 5 NH

Subject: Snow Coming Your Way Replies: 54
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,524
 
Martin ,
Sounds like it could be a big snow storm here in NH as well.

Have you picked out your area of Florida yet ?
Best,
Kerry

Subject: cuttings Replies: 35
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,710
 
Hey afishpond ,
Jason always tries to help and gave some good info.
You can make this right and straighten this out with a quick apology.
No question you should.
Kerry

Subject: First attempt at rooting cuttings Replies: 22
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,363
 
Hey it worked ! I learned something !
Oh , this could be dangerous , I may start posting all my fig and gardening pics. Somebody stop me.

Subject: First attempt at rooting cuttings Replies: 22
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,363
 
Hope pics come thru.
Thought they would come as thumbnails.
Best I can do for now to show the cuttings in plastic shoebox.
Wish I were not such a Luddite.
Best,
Kerry

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Subject: First attempt at rooting cuttings Replies: 22
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,363
 
Jason ,
That is the idea , a "sandwich", really a cuttings "sandwich" with the layers of moss being the "bread".

Cassandra,
I have been meaning to learn how to post pictures,but I bet someone else would be able to post a picture before I would get to it. I'll try to get to it though, got to learn sometime. Now where did I last see that camera of mine ?
Kerry

Subject: First attempt at rooting cuttings Replies: 22
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,363
 
Cassandra ,
One thing I like about using the solid containers, like plastic shoe box,for the cuttings in moss,is that you can quickly check on root formation by just removing the lid. The bottom half inch of each cutting is visible so you can see if the roots are the size you like for potting up. If not just snap the lid back on. They stack on each other nicely , so can fit in a fairly small area.
Depending on the thickness of my cuttings , I usually fit 6-12 cuttings in each container. You can put in multiple layers to fit more in,but I don't usually bother to do that , I just use another container.
Good rooting luck,
Kerry

Subject: First attempt at rooting cuttings Replies: 22
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,363
 
Hi Cassandra ,
I root cuttings in Sphagnum moss also and never have to add moisture. Soaking the moss for a whole day has been key for me getting good results. Usually I put the whole cutting within the moist atmosphere of the clamshell container. My cuttings tend to be in the 6" to 8" range mostly so they fit well in one of those bakery type clamshells you might get fig squares in , though I mostly use 13x8 plastic shoebox containers or whatever food storage container is closest to that size at the dollar store. Just as with the cuttings rolled in slightly damp newspaper in the baggie method , I leave the bottom half inch of the cutting exposed so you can see when the roots form and don't have to extricate the roots from the long fiber moss. Also if using tip cuttings , I leave the very tip exposed.
Use enough moss to keep the cutting off the bottom of the container and use enough on top to just cover well.
I think you will be very happy using Sphagnum moss.
Good luck with all your rooting.
Best,
Kerry

Subject: Tips for dealing with Fungus Gnats Replies: 41
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Hi 71GTO ,
Because I tend to overwater from time to time , I've started pre fitting my pots with wicks coming out of the drain holes. Wick material I use is Walmart mainstays brand rayon mop refill heads , because it was suggested as a good wick on one of the fig forums. Each strand is made up of 4 individual smaller strands , so I cut to the length I want and then pull the strands apart. If I forget to put them in,I just push a strand in up through the drainholes. Any material will help in  same way, small strips of old fabric, pieces of rolled up paper towel ,whatever.
Also I've gone to smaller pots or containers,so they tend to dry faster.I use 3' deep pots or a shorter version(5" ?) of the uline bags Jon recommends
Most people probably don't need to do all of this , but for me it is a built in balance to my recognition of my sometimes heavy hand in watering.
So after I water a bunch of pots I let them drip- drain in a tub then move them on top of several sections of newspaper to let the wicks do their magic.
If I am in a rush , putting them on microfiber towels seem to draw the excess moisture out even faster than the newspaper. Since beginning to use the wicks my percentage of cuttings that make it has gone way up.
Best ,
Kerry
Zone 5 NH

Subject: Chip-bud grafting Replies: 43
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 18,446
 
Ed ,
Once the t-bud or chip bud heals , you cut back to it to get it to grow and become the new top .
Kerry

Subject: Have you decided on your container media? Replies: 6
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 775
 
Ed ,
Could you please, if you get a chance ,spell out your Tapla mix,components and amounts and any other ways you may have tweaked it besides the change from granite to coarse perlite ?
Thanks ,
Kerry

Subject: Merry Christmas to all Replies: 36
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,499
 
Merry Christmas and thank you many who have been so generous with knowledge , cuttings, trades and plants given outright. I intend to pass on as much as I can of what I have learned and been given .A wonderful group of people to be associated with.
Best ,
Kerry


Subject: Atreano Taste!,Vivian Question. Replies: 17
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,515
 
Can anyone fill me in on the history of JH Adriatic ?
I have searched both forums and don't find much.
Thanks ,
Kerry

Subject: Atreano Taste!,Vivian Question. Replies: 17
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,515
 
Herman ,
Is  your Lindhurst white nearly as good as these three or not even close ?
How does it compare in yield and earliness ?
Thanks ,
Kerry 

Subject: Cold Morning Replies: 66
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,199
 
Forgot to mention the Painters markers paint seems to dry fast on the cuttings.

Subject: Cold Morning Replies: 66
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,199
 
Noss and saxonfig ,
I found markers in the craft section at Walmart called Painters  opaque paint markers made by Elmers.
The fine point or medium point versions work well for cuttings. I find the fine point best overall for me.
I think Jason or someone else on the forum recommended these or similar a while back. 
Best ,
Kerry 

Subject: Frost Sensitivity of Different Varieties with Photos Replies: 15
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,005
 
Perhaps , FrozenJoe Not , would be the appropriate change of name.
From still stuck in the cold drivewayfarmer,
Kerry
zone5 NH

Subject: Humidity in Winter storage Replies: 2
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 837
 
Well , nobody sent up any caution flags so I'll take that as a very good sign.
The storage area is staying around 85- 90 % humidity for now and I probably couldn't do too much about it anyway ,except look for another space.
Turns out it can hold more fig pots than I thought ,which is a great blessing.
Best to all for a great Thanksgiving,
Kerry
Zone 5 NH

Subject: Humidity in Winter storage Replies: 2
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 837
 
Any ideas on best humidity levels for Winter storage.
My main storage area , a barn basement, is 41F right now , but humidity level is quite high ,ranging between 75%-90%.
Any worries with humidity this high ?
Best ,
Kerry
Zone 5 NH

Subject: Another fig lover is born? Replies: 28
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,426
 
Fantastic , Jason.
She is just beautiful.
All the best to all of you,
Kerry

Subject: Phloem restriction and the affect on fig quality and yield Replies: 6
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,200
 
It is listed on bookfinder.com
The least expensive copy is around $50.00


Subject: O'Rourke fig and leaves Replies: 10
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,188
 
So , if it is not O'Rourke is it Improved Celeste ?
Do we know what it is most likely to be at this point ?
Kerry
Z5 NH

Subject: Dalmatie ? Replies: 18
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,261
 
 Anyone likely to have a Dalmatie cutting this Fall /Winter they would be willing to sell or trade for ?
Thanks ,
Kerry
Z5  NH

Subject: season extension webinar Replies: 1
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 497
 

Remembering some of the recent posts on season extension ,maybe some would interested in this free upcoming high tunnel season extension webinar.
I know the fellow teaching it and he was always the farmer who was most advanced in his low input ,small scale, high tunnel production techniques. Never ceased to amaze me when I went visit his farm expecting to see similar sized early tunnel crops and he was always a month ahead of me . I wasn't doing bad , he was just doing great.
I think this link will get you to more info :http://www.cefs.ncsu.edu/newsevents/events/2010/sosa2010/sosa2010calendar.html#hightunnelwebinar
If it doesn't work look up Center for Enviornmental Farming Systems high tunnel webinar.
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Dalmatie ? Replies: 18
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,261
 
Mike ,
Thanks for the clarification on the vigor.
I appreciate the follow up.
Sounds as if you really like this cultivar and with good reason.
I found a post by Jon from about a year ago where he says it is a keeper for sure.
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Dalmatie ? Replies: 18
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,261
 
Mike ,
Thanks for confirming that I heard correctly Dalmatie is the name you mentioned in the video.
I have to say early , big  and very good flavored fruit sounds good to me.
Only the lack of vigor worries me a little , but not enough to not try it.
Just need to find a source now.
Best ,
Kerry
zone 5
NH

Subject: Dalmatie ? Replies: 18
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,261
 
Nelson ,
We really need to find you a farm near Toronto for your all your figs and your green thumb.
Looking forward to hearing how Dalmatie does for you in the future.
Best ,
Kerry 

Subject: Dalmatie ? Replies: 18
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,261
 
Herman ,
I appreciate your warning about Brunswick.
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Dalmatie ? Replies: 18
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,261
 
Jose ,
If you have tasted the fruit , how much did you like it ?
Supposed to be a slow grower , have you found that to be the case?
Would you recommend trying it in NH?
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Dalmatie ? Replies: 18
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,261
 
About 4 minutes in to the first of two recent videos posted by Michal , Two New Videos on Fig Cultivation in Austria , apnoist mentions the name of a fig.
I think he was saying that Dalmatie was a variety worth trying in the cooler parts of North America .
Anyone growing this fig have any input on how they like it and how it is doing here ?
Is there more than one version of Dalmatie ?
Thanks ,
Kerry
drivewayfarmer
Z5 NH

Subject: my best tasting fig so far Replies: 32
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,281
 

If you right click on the picture and choose properties , it shows up as Ronde de Bordeaux


Subject: Dark Portuguese Replies: 12
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,536
 
Martin ,
This is very helpful indeed .
Thanks for teaching.
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Extending the growing season Replies: 32
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,947
 
Andrew ,
A terrific resource if you are considering a tunnel is http://www.ledgewoodfarm.com
Ed Person and his brother-in -law Rob have been making tunnel frames for growers all over New England for many years. Prices are competitive ,I believe they still deliver for free anywhere in NE and since they are growers as well, their knowledge and willingness to share that knowledge is as they say priceless. Give them a call, tell them what you are considering, for most growers I know they are a tremendous help.
And by the way , nice website.
Kerry

 

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