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Subject: Not quite opaque container Replies: 7
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 965
 
Cassandra ,
I have been using the sub-irrigated 5 gallon buckets for veggies for a number of years and now for figs. Lately I seem to find mostly the kind of buckets you describe and so far for this season I have seen no problems.
I had read in the past that the roots can overheat more easily in these buckets as opposed to the more solid white buckets . I have seen no evidence of that , but then I am in central NH.
The figs seem to like the sub - irrigated / global bucket in general.
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Have these cuttings rooted? Replies: 6
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 879
 
Hi Andrew ,
Those greenwood cuttings were part of my first attempt of this type of propagation. I wouldn't have thought to try it ,except after reading about it on this forum I figured I would give it a shot. The ones you have at this point look better than most of mine and I think my mistake was using a potting mix that didn't have enough perlite (probably should have been 50/50  perlite/potting mix) Also , for green wood growth there is new and really new wood and too many of mine were really new wood.
I agree with Martin , I am just waiting to see roots , otherwise leaving them alone.
We can still trade hardwood cuttings this Fall/Winter , I was just hoping the greenwood cuttings might give you a head start with those varieties.
Best,
Kerry
drivewayfarmer
Z5 NH

Subject: Hello and my trees Replies: 7
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 785
 
It was great to meet you and your family when we brought those trees over from NH.
Thanks so much for your hospitality and those great Vermont Moonlight cookies that your wife makes at her bakery.
If you need more details on the origin of the plants you got from me, let me know. Hope they do well for you and I look forward to hearing which varieties do best for you in your area of VT.
Best ,
Kerry
drivewayfarmer
NH  Z5

Subject: pinching 1st yr cuttings Replies: 7
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 952
 
Everyone ,
Thanks for the replies on this .
I thought I had read in older posts that it was best to not pinch 1st yr cuttings because it might weaken them in some way. Must have misunderstood what I read . Glad I asked , I'll go ahead and pinch those that are big enough and perhaps cut a few of the largest back enough to try Ray Given's green wood propagation technique.
Best ,
Kerry
Zone 5 NH

Subject: pinching 1st yr cuttings Replies: 7
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 952
 
Some of my cuttings rooted this winter are single stems 18" to 24" tall now.
Since I want it to bush out is it ok to pinch the tip now or is it always best to not clip a 1st yr plant ? They are all in 5 gal sub-irrigated buckets and seem to be pretty strong.
Thanks for any help.
Best ,
Kerry
Zone 5 NH

Subject: Cutting of Pastiliere and Sultane Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,390
 
Nelson ,
I'll leave it up to my friend , but maybe she could put cuttings between the champagne bottles she is likely to return with.
Ottawan ,
I'll tell her not to pack it with the bananas and maybe she'll get by.
Or maybe it won't interest her to try even mailing them.
I'll see what she decides.
Kerry


Subject: Cutting of Pastiliere and Sultane Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,390
 
Hey John ,
It is an older friend of mine who is going to France who I wouldn't want to impose on too much. She would like me to start a cutting of one particular fig she grew up eating in France and I think she may be considering just dropping a cutting in the mail from her hometown there. She will be there a few months and may be able to keep an eye out for Sultane and Pastiliere if she is willing. I'm leaving it totally up to her , but she really gets into descibing the figs she loved as a kid.
Thanks for the offer of info on the USDA process , but at this time it isn't something I want to or feel able to undertake.
Best,
Kerry

Subject: Cutting of Pastiliere and Sultane Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,390
 
Tim ,
Here's hoping your Sultane cup runneth over- with fig roots !

Does anyone know how to go about getting cuttings sent over of these two varieties or others if a friend happens to be in France this Autumn visiting  family ?  Is there an easy way to do it ?
Best ,
Kerry
Z5

Subject: Winter 2010,Fig Cultivars Cold hardeness results! Replies: 15
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 2,079
 
Thanks for this listing Vasile. It is a true help to fig growers to the north of you especially.
Best,
Kerry
NH z5

Subject: Cutting of Pastiliere and Sultane Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,390
 
Tim ,
What are you doing with that cold weather fig down there in Texas ?
Hope it does really well for you. Look forward to hearing how you like it.
I did order from Jon after he was already sold out of both the Sultane and the Sultane LD. Not sure of the difference between them.
Best ,
Kerry



Subject: Cutting of Pastiliere and Sultane Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,390
 
Hi Martin ,
Good to hear that it stored well as a small plant. I  appreciate your previous thumbs up on my planned storage area which stays between 20 F - 35 F over winter. I will only be growing in containers as well, except I might put one Florea in the ground based on Vasile's encouragement.
Have you tried Sultane or wanted to try it for this zone ?
Best,
Kerry

Subject: Cutting of Pastiliere and Sultane Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,390
 
I hadn't heard much about Dalmatie or St.John Grise , but I'll look into them.
I know it is getting late and had no great expectations, but I thought I should ask. The more people I talk to up here in NH the more I see how interested they are in the idea of growing figs. If I can trial many varieties , the more I can pass on which seem to work well for me.
Spreading figs around , that is part of the fig bug's effect , from my experience of the fine folks on this forum.
Best,
Kerry
NH z5

Subject: Cutting of Pastiliere and Sultane Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,390
 
Hi Jose ,
That was my thinking , that these two could be good for my Zone 5 climate.
Zone 5 is as cold as I ever hope to get !
About UC Davis , I could order from there for next year , but I was hoping to find a cutting to start soon.
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Cutting of Pastiliere and Sultane Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,390
 
Any chance of getting a cutting of Pastiliere or Sultane ?
Think these may do well in my area , but have been unable to locate any to buy .
Are they just too rare to be available yet ?
Best ,
Kerry
Zone 5
NH

Subject: How much light to give , how soon Replies: 11
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,030
 
Jon ,
An excellent cautionary note to sound regarding hardening off any kind of plant from indoor to outdoor enviornment. I do have the problem of sometimes rushing vegetable seedlings through their hardening off stage and I find the wind or strong breezes can be almost as damaging as direct sun in the first few days on such tender growth .
Best,
Kerry
zone 5

Subject: How much light to give , how soon Replies: 11
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,030
 
Jon ,
I can't find any tangerine trees to use for dappled shade up here . Any hints on finding one ?
Best,
Kerry

Subject: How much light to give , how soon Replies: 11
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,030
 
Thanks Mario , Paully , and Nas for your ideas .
How fast are you able to get them used to normal house humidity ?
Mario what is the mix you have in the cups ? The plants look great.
All the sunny windows are filled already with other plants so my figs are having to live under lights in the basement. One good thing is I found that I don't need to sleeve them with newspaper or in another solid colored cup if they are under lights. The outer cup seemed to keep the soil a little cooler so I left them off with no ill effects so far.
Best ,
Kerry
Zone 5a ( some say 4b ) 

Subject: How much light to give , how soon Replies: 11
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,030
 
Didn't get any opinions on this when it was first posted.
Just to follow up with what I have found so far. I have been having the best results if I get the rooting cuttings into light as soon as possible when they have any top growth with some roots. I had been waiting to move into light until I had what I thought were lots of roots .
Lights in my situation are 4 ' shop lights , cool white bulbs , fairly close to the tops of plants , timer set for 16 hours a day.
If I ever manage to get myself out of the Dark Ages , I'll post some pictures.
Best ,
Kerry
zone 5

Subject: using 20 x 20-ft. transparent garage tarp for Greenhouse Replies: 8
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,647
 
Here is an interesting website for small pipe benders for those who would like to use metal conduit.
http://www.lostcreek.net/  Lost Creek Greenhouse Systems
I built a small take off version out of several layers of plywood and screwed to my wooden barn floor , for bending 10 foot lengths of 1/2 inch metal conduit into 6 foot wide hoops for the garden.
Johnny's Seeds in Maine now carries Lost Creeks pipe benders.
Kerry

Subject: using 20 x 20-ft. transparent garage tarp for Greenhouse Replies: 8
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 3,647
 
Michal ,
From my greenhouse experience , I've found that where pvc pipe touches greenhouse plastic for some reason  the gh plastic degrades much faster than normal , the covering you talk about may have the same reaction. For instance we had grey plastic electrical conduit running along a hipboard and there a high quality 4 year rated plastic degraded and tore open along that entire 48 foot length within two years.
Talking to a greenhouse builder he mentioned that where plastic conduit touches plastic cover should be separated by duct tape or some kind of fabric, something to keep the degrading from happening.
You may also look into quality of light transmission of the covering you are considering if figs are to stay in your tunnel for full season and not just temporarily. Greenhouse plastic usually has 85 or 90 % light transmission, if you potential covering gets a lot less than that then it functions as a shade house in terms of light and quality of growth will be more weak like indoors with warm temps and poor light. I've found that gh plastic is usually worth the price even in the short run. We are lucky enough here in NH to have a greenhouse builder who will cut you a piece of plastic the size you need instead of selling you a whole roll.
I miss my greenhouses. May yours give you tons of fruit.
Best ,
Kerry
Zone 5a

Subject: New Hampshire fig trial Replies: 8
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,557
 
Fignut ,
I have been interested in Paradiso , but unsure of which version might be best in cool areas. That is great to hear that Gene's Paradiso ripens well in cool weather. I'll put it on my list of varieties to try. My interest in Hollier is for the same reason that it is said to ripen well in cool weather
Jose , I didn't catch which variety is in the pictures . Is it Bayenfeige Violetta? That is a beautiful specimen of a tree. Thanks for the pictures.
Kerry
Zone 5

Subject: New Hampshire fig trial Replies: 8
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,557
 
Ed , these plants will be in pots. May try a couple in the ground eventually. Vasile tells me to put at least one Florea in the ground the first year. He feels it is capable of survival right off the bat.
Jason , thanks for the idea of Conadria, you just made my wife mad !
Los Lunas farms , Akram gave me the LSU Purple, so I guess he has found it to be useful for Ottawa. I do have Celeste GM coming from Jon , I think , but I didn't mention it because I don't have it in hand yet. My order from him also includes Mary Lane Seedless and Desert King.
I would like to get Pastelierre as well , but I haven't researched it enough and don't know too much about it. By the way thanks for your recent posts on your rooting technique with the plant spas  ; really incredible roots.
Best,
Kerry

Subject: New Hampshire fig trial Replies: 8
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,557
 
In zone 5a here in New Hampshire , I've gathered several different fig varieties as cuttings to trial what will do best for my situation. So far ejp's Lattarulla has been the fastest rooter and Atreano from Vasile has also been very fast to root .
Two varieties I was hoping to try this year as well are Hollier and Bayenfeige Violetta , but both were sold out before I got my order in to Jon. If anyone has a cutting or two(really one is fine) of either or both varieties , I could do a trade for future cuttings ( God Willing and the creek don't rise ) of these Varieties I am trying to root now:
Marseilles Black VS
Atreano
Sal's (gene's )
Lattarulla (ejp)
Florea
Hardy Chicago
Natalina
LSU Purple
Lyndhurst White
If anyone has other ideas of varieties I should try in this zone , my wife hopes that you won't tell me !
Best ,
Kerry
drivewayfarmer



Subject: Looking for Eve's Black Cherry and Calvert Replies: 14
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,184
 
Jason ,
Thanks for posting your experiences in rooting cuttings. I am rooting about 80 cuttings now and it helps to see what has worked well for you. Your emphasis on moisture control is important , but where can I buy some of that stuff you are using called patience ?
Best ,
Kerry
zone 5
NH

Subject: Japanese fig growing method - fabulous photos Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 17,880
 
Thanks for the tip Martin , Babel Fish translator is working better for me than Google translator on these .
Kerry

Subject: Japanese fig growing method - fabulous photos Replies: 21
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 17,880
 
I am very interested in learning about this , but I need a translation of the translation. I can't really make out what they are saying and the pictures don't show up .Do I need to go somewhere other than Google translator ?
Thanks ,
Kerry

Subject: Horizontal rooting of cuttings Replies: 12
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,408
 
So I just potted up those horizontal cuttings. What I wrote in the first post was not exactly correct . Looking at my notes , I did have two Marseilles vs Black cuttings , but I cut them in half at the start , ending up with two 3-node cuttings and two 2-node cuttings. When I went to pot up , I found the four cuttings to have great roots, too big to put into 20 ounce cups so they went onto 5.5 " square pots. Each cutting just had roots at the bottom nodes and one swelling leaf node.
Thanks for the advice to pot them up now , the timing was good for that to avoid a tangle of roots.
I also see in my notes that I put those cuttings horizontally on Dec. 12
Thanks ,
Kerry

Subject: Horizontal rooting of cuttings Replies: 12
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,408
 
Martin , I see now that my sentence is kind of unclear. I just meant to ask that if my rooted cuttings grow well this first season , can I expect to harvest any fruit in the second year ?
Best ,
Kerry

Subject: Horizontal rooting of cuttings Replies: 12
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,408
 
Great Martin , that is a relief to know that a space with temps in the 20's can work for year old plants. If I pot some into one gallon and nothing bigger later in the season and they can get through winter that way, I'm in business.
All I will have to do is unclutter the space for winter storage of figs next year.
Best case scenario, if they root and grow well this year, can I leave some fruit on the plants in year two ?
Best ,
Kerry
zone5

Subject: Horizontal rooting of cuttings Replies: 12
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,408
 
Thanks Martin and Jason , I think you are right I should pot them up now. For all my cuttings I plan to go normally from 20 oz. clear cup to 5.5"deep square container , then to 5 gallon sub irrigated buckets for the first season. Does that sound realistic ? And Martin since you store so many figs in containers for the winter, could you tell me if a space that so far this winter stays between 29F and 23F here in central New Hampshire would be ok storage space for 1 year old fig plants ?
Thanks

Subject: How much light to give , how soon Replies: 11
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,030
 
I have several practice cuttings with good roots and now three inches or less of top growth. In order to keep them from getting leggy , I want to put them under shoplights that I use for veggie seedlings. How much time can they spend under lights early on ? Usually I have the veggie seedling on a timer that gives them 16 to 18 hours of light per day. Would that be too much for young fig plants just getting started ? I guess they need to stay in their clear plastic tote for now for humidity control. The basement where the lights are is usually around 60F with low maybe 25% humidity. The insulated shelf with lights where the tote with figs could stay should be around 70 to 75F while the lights are on. I'll have to test to see what temp would be for the hours the lights are off.
Could the totes with figs just go on the tables in the basement where I also have seedling lights ? Temp would be around 60F with high humidity in the totes .I want to get this right for the 60 cuttings  that I will start soon.
Thanks for all and any help.
Best ,
Kerry
 Zone5

Subject: Horizontal rooting of cuttings Replies: 12
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,408
 
Being new to rooting fig cuttings , I am trialing several methods.
Two cuttings of Marseilles vs Black were planted horizontally just under the surface of 50/50 mix of potting mix/perlite , in a clear shoebox size container.( All of what I am trying is following what I've read on the forums , just can't recall who posted their technique regarding this.)
Now plenty of roots are showing in three or four different locations , but no evidence of top growth. I thought I had read to leave them in the container until the tops get too tall and the cover will no longer fit. My real question here is the roots are so vigorous that they are beginning to grow into each other , should I pot up each individual now before the roots tangle too much ? Some of the roots are long enough that I would put them into 5.5" deep square containers instead of going into 20 oz. clear cups.
Thanks for any help,
Kerry
Zone 5

Subject: Rooting Via Baggie Method With Sphagnum Moss Replies: 45
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 5,085
 
Jason ,
I found the same Mosser Lee sphagnum moss at Lowe's up here in NH. I ended up rubbing in through a 1/2 inch hardware cloth screen I use for sifting soil mix. It worked fairly well. Now I  have ordered the milled sphagnum moss from a greenhouse supply company. A 2 cubic ft. bag (cat#65-1025)for $18.49 and a long fiber sphagnum moss 3.5 cubic ft. bag(cat#20-204500) for $28.81   I believe the same supplier has a branch that serves greenhouses and garden centers in GA. Griffen Greenhouse Supply is the name. You can sometimes get your local garden center to add what you need to their weekly order from the supplier assuming you are a good customer.
Kerry

Subject: Merry ChristMass to all, Replies: 13
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 762
 
Merry Christmas to everyone and thanks for all the help getting started with figs ; most especially Vasile for your patience with this figsters questions.
Kerry

Subject: propagation questions Replies: 7
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 823
 
Lisa ,  That is very generous of you .  My brother and family in Bartow seemed a little interested when I planted the figs in Tampa , but my brother feels like everything in their yard is growing poorly. I'll mention your offer to him next time I talk to him and see what he thinks , but I imagine he'll be indecisive because of soil problems, real or imagined .
Thanks ,
Kerry

Subject: propagation questions Replies: 7
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 823
 
demondmh, It is good to hear that Lattarulla from ejp3 is growing well for you in Florida . I have family in Bartow and in Tampa . In early November ,I planted a local Large Brown Turkey ,Green Ischia , Hollier and LSU Improved Celeste from Just Fruits and Exotics in Tampa. Reports are they are doing well , but adequate sun is an issue in that spot so we'll see what happens.
  moshepherdess , I miss my hoophouses . Thanks for the further answer on the compost use for propagation .I agree with your point on variety choice , that is why this forum is so helpful in figuring out which varieties to start with that are likely to be stars in your zone .
Best ,
Kerry
zone 5a - a bit nippy right now.

Subject: propagation questions Replies: 7
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 823
 
Elizabeth ,
Thanks for the reply. I love hearing about the hoophouse , I used to have several of them when we lived in Pennsylvania and I know how incredibly productive they can be. Here in NH , for two years we had the use of a couple of 21 x 48 foot tunnels , one heated and one unheated for seedlings and tomato production for farmers markets. Interesting to know about the differing growth pattern of Marseilles vs Black compared to Sal EL. The Lattarulla is from ejp3 and he is certain that his is not the same as Italian Honey. I am excited to be trying all these varieties , just hoping to see if the wrapping in plastic wrap for storage in fridge is alright and about the horizontal propagation whether it is a common approach or not. Thanks for your input on horizontal propagation. Are you using straight compost,nothing else? how many nodes on the cuttings ?
My thanks go out to a generous member of the forum who is sending some cuttings of other varieties that are valuable for short season areas. I think he may do this often. A habit I hope to develop myself over the years if  these cuttings grow well for me.
Turns out I will be able to buy some Sals EL cuttings , money coming from selling some unused irrigation supplies.
Best
Kerry


Subject: Figs in the Greenhouse Replies: 9
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 867
 
Many plant nurseries use a white overwintering plastic on their hoophouses when storing potted plants to cut down heat gain on sunny winter days. May need ventilation as well , but the white plastic diminishes the greenhouse effect to some degree.


Subject: propagation questions Replies: 7
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 823
 
Being new to fig propagation and wanting to avoid common problems , I've read all I can from both forums. I wonder if anyone has updates on a couple of cutting handling procedures. First ,to prevent mold, what works better for storing cuttings in the fridge for a few months : wrapping in kitchen plastic wrap and in ziplock after the standard washing procedure as mentioned by Axier on 2/12/09 on a storing cuttings thread or wrapping in damp newspaper in a ziplock after standard washing ?
Any updates on horizontal rooting method that I saw mentioned by elder on the GW forum. He was rooting horizontally in 50/50 perlite/ potting mix in shoebox size Sterlite container ? Is this a common and successful technique for folks here ? From all of my research I am living in fear of mold getting to my newly purchased cuttings. I have Marseilles vs Black , Atreano and Lattarulla cuttings to work with. I was hoping to have Sal's -genes strain as well , but my dear wife is hesitant for me to spend anymore on cuttings for now and maybe for good. So I need to have the propagation go well , I have a lot of gardening experience , but not much with hardwood cuttings.
Also, being in zone 5a in New Hampshire and last frost usually around mid to late May , any ideas on when best to start the rooting process ? How many weeks ahead to get the best growth for the season ?
Much appreciate any help .
Kerry Sullivan
Zone 5a
New Hampshire

Subject: How about this idea? Replies: 9
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,149
 
Thanks for posting that link JD. I hadn't seen that one before. Love the colander idea .Great site with a wonderful focus.
Gorgi ,Thanks for the welcome. I think the thick plastic barrels that Bill uses are great and meant to  last 20 years, probably would be the best way to go for me.  If I had space to store them for the winter I would put any figs I grew in them. What is good about the 5 gal. buckets is they are easier for me to move around with a handcart and I can fit more in storage. My plan is to actually use 6 gallon buckets as the interior bucket for greater soil volume. Of course I have to get my cuttings rooted first. My experience is really with veggies Here is another site with sub irrigation info:http://www.insideurbangreen.org/diy-sub-irrigation/
Oxankle if your water reservoir is too open to the air there might be a need for mosquito control .
Best to all.

Subject: How about this idea? Replies: 9
Posted By: drivewayfarmer Views: 1,149
 
Hi Oxankle and all,
I've been reading both forums for the last two or three months to learn as much as possible about fig growing . Oxankles idea is a great  one I wanted to chime in on because homemade sub-irrigated containers aka self watering containers is something I've been using for veggies for 4 or 5 years with wonderful results.
The only sun available at home is pretty much the driveway, so I have about 75 of the 5 gallon bucket version sub-irrigated containers. Here is a site that has plans for making them :http://greenroofgrowers.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-make-two-bucket-sub-irrigated.html
My intention is to use them eventually for the fig cuttings I bought from Herman2 on ebay.
I  made two of the containers shown on the forum link for Bills Figs that Jon mentioned and took them down to Florida to plant figs for my parents as well as putting two other figs in the ground for them as suggested by Bill.

 

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