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Subject: My Montserrat Pons varieties selection Replies: 50
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James, that's pretty close. His trees are set on a layout called "marca real" at 13 meters apart [which I think is about 42 feet 8 inches.


Photos taken 24 April 2010






Subject: Coffee grounds in compost Replies: 13
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I tried the Starbucks near our home a few years ago but got the grounds only once.
Getting them from work has been much easier.  Composting worms love them too.

Subject: My Montserrat Pons varieties selection Replies: 50
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Nice photos/info, thanks for sharing!  I talked to Montserrat just last week.

Subject: Strange business promoting Replies: 38
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,279
 
And, on top of it all, they 'borrowed' music from the Allman Brothers Band!

Subject: Im a brand new Uncle...PICS Replies: 25
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Truly a lovely lady!  Congrats Tony!!

Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
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Mine are in burlap bags, above two nested containers [top container has holes, allowing the liquid to drain away from the olives and collect in the lower container]

Yesterday I sifted them out to see the progress. They're not ready yet.....in part because I was out of town for two weeks at Christmas and wasn't able to shake the burlap sacks [shaking redistributes the rock salt and olive mix, this seems to help them cure faster].  I tried a few of the more shriveled ones and they tasted pretty good.



Subject: Tasty description of figs Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 2,853
 
Great idea!   How about a 'lowest' category

POS - (0)



Subject: I am sorry to everyone I offended Replies: 60
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 2,645
 

Dominick:


Scallion = onion,  and according to Shrek, "onions have layers".

We all have layers.

Way to man up. Welcome back.


Subject: White Genoa Cuttings - (Send me Private Message) Replies: 10
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Thanks for the responses everyone [got lots of them], so I have to close this now. I've gotten more responses than cuttings so I will determine an equitable way to draw up a list of recipients. Thanks.

Subject: White Genoa Cuttings - (Send me Private Message) Replies: 10
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 906
 

Hi,
I have finally had a chance to get back online and will look at the private messages sent to my inbox.



Considering all the comments I have seen on other threads relating to communication issues, I will relate what happened when I experienced in acquiring these cuttings.

The husband and wife invited us into the backyard to see the tree [my great uncle and aunt lived next door to them from the mid 1940s, so there is a happy longstanding family relationship here].

The husband said "it's the time of year to prune, so take all you want", but of course I know that's not a license to slash away, so I cut just a few. I was very careful just to take cuttings from branches that were rubbing each other, growing the 'wrong' directions, etc. 

He kept insisting I take more, so hesitantly I took a few more each time he told me, with him encouraging me at every cut. Still I didn't want to be greedy so I just stopped cutting, despite his encouragements.

Well, as we left, his wife made a comment to members of my family, I guess she was aghast that I had selfishly taken so many.  (Last year I was there, next door at my uncle's house when they pruned it, and they just tossed the cuttings in the green recycle bin.) I didn't hear her say that, and only found out later.

As you can imagine, I felt about 3 inches tall [even though my family assured it was just a misunderstanding between the husband and wife...she was very hard of hearing and didn't hear her husband's instructions to me].

I thought I had done the right thing...not taking his 'take as much as you want' literally, only taking branches that would be pruned away anyway, etc. Plus, all I wanted to do is share the cuttings with others (I MIGHT keep one for myself). 

I guess I am really glad I hadn't heard her say it. I have known her nearly all of my life [I am 54], and value the 60+ year relationship she has with my immediate and extended family. I respect her far too much to say anything, so I probably would have silently walked out of the yard, tossing the cuttings in the nearest trash can.


Anyway, my point  [and I do have one] is that communication disconnects happen even when we have the best intentions. Best that we all think before speaking, use tact, and give people the benefit of the doubt.  Peace.


EDIT: I'm pretty sure things are fine Grasa [I heard husband and wife had a discussion after we left], but I like your suggestion, thanks!


Subject: White Genoa Cuttings - (Send me Private Message) Replies: 10
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 906
 
I have some White Genoa cuttings available.  Send me a Private Message

Source: a tree in Ocean Beach (part of San Diego, CA), collected last week.

The man who owns it has lived onsite for more than 50 years and planted it a few decades ago.

He says it ripens well in his rather cool "one block from the Pacific Ocean" climate.

Send me a Private Message, it will be several hours before I can check the message list.

Paul

Subject: low cost soil and container suggestions? Replies: 22
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,278
 
If there is a hydroponics store near you, they usually stock the large perlite. That's where I have gotten mine.

Subject: sandwich Replies: 3
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 430
 
Uma combinação estranha? Não! Eu gosto!

Subject: labeling your Figs Replies: 29
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,243
 
I use mini-blind slats [cut with tin snips] and a garden marker pen. The slats are plenty rigid enough to be shoved into the potting mix.
I stopped by a window coverings shop and they happily gave me several blinds that were defective and would otherwise go into the trash. Less in the landfill for them [well, everybody] free tags for me.

Subject: I made Bass's Fig Jam Replies: 3
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I made Bass' fig jam this summer....actually two recipes on his Fig Recipes page... Aida's Fresh Fig Jam and  Bassem's Fig and Walnut jam.  Both were excellent

Subject: Sorry Replies: 22
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,207
 
Dave, hope things go well for you...we're all pulling for you. Hang in there and please know that we care.

Subject: (OT) Knock, Knock Replies: 6
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Subject: First fig grafts Replies: 27
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OctopusInc, here's the link to Axier's grafting document:


http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/English-Translation-of-Axiers-How-to-Graft-an-Adult-Fig-Tree-4504717

Subject: Confessions from a cutting killer Replies: 19
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,013
 
I've had rooting problems all along...part of which are due to our variable climate [40 degrees/day temperature swings are common], aggravated by our dependence on a woodstove for heat.

This autumn we finally we installed a new furnace I have not had to time to root more than a few cuttings. Actually I haven't rooted ANY cuttings yet...because they are in the refrigerator, saran-wrapped with the ends dipped in wax. I will try to root them when the weather starts warming up.

Subject: Desert King & Stella FIg Cultivar Opinions? Replies: 11
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,225
 
Desert King does well at my parents' house, which is located just northeast of the I-5/I-8 interchange in San Diego.

Subject: whats the temp outside right now? Replies: 53
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Here in Albuquerque, NM, it was 19 degrees at 7:30am and is now 38 degrees at 4:15pm. First cold weather we have had for quite a while...heck it was 60 at my house on Saturday.

Subject: DRAFT page for Jon on Forum Etiquette Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,552
 
I know this is implied under common courtesy, but for what it's worth...

(I have not had this problem here...everyone has been great to me and hopefully I have been likewise to others...but on another non-related plant forum I did. )


1
When in doubt, communicate your expectations    [In other words, discuss what works for you]


The following is just an example (and it was not on F4F or related forums), not what would go in the guidelines:

I traded plant cuttings with someone who stated they preferred fat cuttings ~6" long. That's normally what I send so I figured all was good, and that's what I sent. However what I received were some 3" cuttings thicker than a pipe cleaner but thinner than a #2 pencil.
 
Now, I don't know if this person just wanted to "win", or if they were the last cuttings he had, he thought they were rare and that's all that could be spared, etc.  However, maybe what I should have done have said, "yes, fat 6" cuttings is what I like too, so is that also what I can expect?"  A simple discussion could have ironed that out.



2
Another item under common courtesy, surely already implied

Everyone's life is busy and people get side-tracked

Therefore, if you were expecting a shipment or communication, take the initiative and contact them via Private message or email



Subject: The Visitor Replies: 26
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A beautiful and welcome member of your local ecosystem....lucky you!


Subject: Another use for fig tree cuttings Replies: 4
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 561
 
Maybe we can sell some of those to the Ty Ty folks 
[I didn't see the video, just gleaning that from the comments]

Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
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Al, if you submitted your order online, you should be fine.

Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 
Just got the word that the black olives for curing have run out.

However they have many different varieties of olives for sale, including these



https://www.greatolives.com/buy-gourmet-olives/index.php?route=product%2Fproduct&product_id=52

Subject: Worm Bin Replies: 9
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 794
 
I actually have two worm bins. 
 
The primary bin is outside, in a compost box. 
 
The secondary bin, when in use, is stored in the closet that holds our home's furnace and water heater. I use this secondary bin from autumn through spring, taking some worms and bedding materials from the primary bin. 
The main purpose of the secondary bin is a backup in case the weather kills the worms in the outside bin.
 
 
My secondary bin consists of one 5-gallon bucket lid and two 5-gallon buckets.  
 
Lid:
I drill ~1/2inch/13cm holes in the lid, and use hot glue to attach pieces of fine scouring pads over the holes. The tiny spaces in the scouring pads allow air to pass.
 
example of scouring pads:
 
Upper bucket:
The upper bucket holds the worms and bedding.
I drill ~1/2inch/13cm holes in the bottom of this bucket, and like the lid, use hot glue to attach pieces of fine scouring pads over the holes. 
The tiny spaces in the scouring pads allow the "leachate" liquid to drain into the lower bucket.
 
Lower bucket:
The lower bucket catches the  "leachate" liquid liquid that drains from the upper bin [it mostly comes from moisture in the food scraps].
I don't modify this bucket at all, it fits inside the upper bucket.
 
 
 
As the weather begins to get colder, I prepare the secondary bin.
 
It sounds funny but what I do first is smear some of the moist material from the outside bin on the inside walls of the upper bucket. (Someone told me it 'acquaints' the worms to their new home.) 
 
Next, I add new bedding material at the bottom, then some of the older bedding material from the outside bin [again, to acquaint them to their new home.]
 
Then, I add the worms and enough food to get them started. I am careful not to add too much food scraps to it [because it would generate too much heat], so really most of the food scraps still go to the primary bin outside .
 
 
Finally, because the closet that hold our water heater and furnace inside bin is right next to our front door, if I want to open the bucket [to add food, check on the progress, etc.], I bring it outside and then open it. That way, if there are any flying insects or fast moving creepy crawlers when I open the lid, they aren't released in the house.
 
Occasionally a few worms come through the scouring pads in the lid. However they  don't get but a few inches and dry out. 
The other worms must realize this and stay inside the nice, warm, moist environment. In nearly 15 years, I've never had a die-off.

Subject: Roasted figs with walnuts Replies: 30
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While pecans are native to the Western Hemisphere only, there are species of walnuts that are native to both hemispheres.

Therefore that's why pecans would not be a traditional food in Italy or the Middle East, but walnuts would be a traditional food in both Eastern Hemisphere and Western Hemisphere cultures.

Subject: Roasted figs with walnuts Replies: 30
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 3,363
 
Maybe my neighbor wanted to make Nocino last summer:


Neighbor:  "Oh, look....pecans"   [reaches for pecans growing on my tree]

Me:  "Please don't pick the pecans, they aren't ripe and won't ripen if you pick them; I will be glad to give you plenty of ripe pecans later this year"

Neighbor:  Ignores me, pulls off several pecans and begins peeling them, gets dark brown dye all over her hands. Goes into house to wash hands.  A while later she returns....


Neighbor:  "I can't get this dye off of my hands although I have scrubbed and scrubbed them."

Me:  "Yes, immature pecan husks hold a pretty strong dye, it might take you a week or more for the dye to come off"

Neighbor:  "A WEEK??  Why didn't you tell me?"


Me:  "I asked you not to pick the pecans (which are on MY tree) in the first place....wasn't that enough???"



Subject: Send me Fig Jam Replies: 47
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We used Bass' recipes to make fig jam last year.....YUMMY!!!!!!

Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 
Hi Al,
I am not sure if they'll be ready by Christmas.
Best way to have it go quickest is to put them in the salt right away (if they arrive Friday, don't wait until Saturday to put them in the salt), and mix them more often. That will speed it up as much as possible.

Subject: English Translation of Axier's 'How to Graft an Adult Fig Tree' Replies: 9
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Latest version of the grafting document  [has the comments of Axier and Bass included]

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=1429785

 
Attached Files
pdf fig-grafting_Axier_2010.pdf (492.09 KB, 114 views)


Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 
FYI I have created a PDF that describes how to cure green olives.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=1429696

 
Attached Files
pdf CureOlives-2012.pdf (953.97 KB, 22 views)


Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 
Hi 71GTO,

Burlap bags are ubiquitous here in New Mexico, because that's what our green chile peppers come in...but really I wouldn't know where to get just the bags!   (However, I just checked and do see them for sale online.)


Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 

Hi Vito, here's what I do:


Dry curing black olives in rock salt

How it works:
The rock salt pulls the moisture out of the olives, concentrating the flavors.

What you want to achieve:

A condition in which the rock salt and olive mixture are in a container that will allow the moisture to drain away

What you want to avoid:

the rock salt and olive mixture spoiling because it is sopping wet  [because the moisture is not allowed to drain away]

 

Possible setups:

Simplest: 

Rock salt and olives in a burlap bag, set this inside a cardboard box that has been lined with a garbage bag, with newspapers or other absorbent materials between the burlap and garbage bag. As the moisture drains into the newspapers, toss them out and replace with dry newspapers

More involved:

two 'nested' bin containers, for example like the following:  http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41nThI69rBL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

The upper container needs holes in the bottom so the moisture can drain away and collect in the lower container (when the containers are nested, there should be at least an inch of space between the bottoms of the two containers).

 

Process

1

Make alternating layers of rock salt and olives [make the bottom and top layers rock salt]

 

2

Every few days, shake or move the container so the rock salt and olive mixture is redistributed. Because olives are less dense than rock salt, some will come to the top. Cover them up with rock salt.

 

3

Also every few days, check to see if there is any collected moisture. Clean it up [change newspapers or dump bin, etc.]

 


4

When the olives are shriveled to about what's shown below, try them.

http://independentvisions.org/fichera/af/images/olives-moroccan-dry.jpg

If you want to leave them in the rock salt longer [to further concentrate the flavors], please realize that the salt will continue to pull out the moisture until there is very little more than the pits and a tiny covering of olive pulp  (this happened to me a few years ago because I had to be out of town unexpectedly). So, don't forget about them!



5

When 
remove the olives from the rock salt, wash and let dry. You can store in the refrigerator.


I cannot tell you how long they last because they are in high demand by family and friends that they disappear immediately!  
(I gave out my entire last batch at the memorial service of my dad's best friend...he cured olives with his dad when he was small.)


They're great when mixed with a little olive oil and some spices like cumin.




NOTE:  
I don't reuse the rock salt for more olives, but since my family and friends make so much home made ice cream, we reuse the olive rock salt for that purpose.


Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 

I've never used lye for black olives, but I've used lye for green olives...once.

It is easier in that the processing time is very short.
However, in addition to needing to protect yourself from the caustic lye, I think it strips out too much of the olive flavor.  And, all the water you use to rinse away the lye needs to be dumped down the drain.

In contrast, if you remove the bitterness from green olives by slicing them then soaking them in water, you can dump that water on outside plants. I have my olive soak buckets outside....when I change the water, I use that water to irrigate plants....so it is not wasted.



EDIT: After the bitterness is removed from the olives, I put them in a salt brine (enough salt so a raw egg floats) then plenty of lemon juice and vinegar, and can them in mason jars.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/189607_5000208648119_579870705_n.jpg


Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 
71GTO
The larger the olive, the more 'pulp' but also a larger pit.
Our local supermarket sells the large bags of rock salt in the front of the store, where they also display the water softener pellets. Just be sure you get 'real salt' and not something else!  I think it was $3.95 for the 50 lb bag.....MUCH cheaper than those 5 lb  boxes of rock salt in the condiments section of the store

Pattee.
If you want to plant olive trees, realize that they are very messy and the fruit stains surfaces and clothing, and plant them in a place where that won't be an issue. (Grandparents had a huge olive tree)


A caution for people harvesting olives they aren't growing themselves:  
Because olives are so messy, property owners often spray their olive trees with chemicals to prevent  (or better stated, reduce) olive production. I doubt these chemicals are healthy if ingested.





Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 
71GTO, glad I posted it then! Yeah sometimes they have to pull in or push out their schedule...so many variables [weather, precipitation, labor availability].


Subject: OT Black olives for curing Replies: 37
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,343
 
If you want black olives for curing, they are still available

https://www.greatolives.com/buy-gourmet-olives/index.php?route=product/category&path=38

$19 for a 10 lb  box; shipping is reasonable














Subject: Lost my fig loving dad last night Replies: 67
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 2,257
 
Dear Ed,

Sorry about the loss of your father. Sounds like he instilled his zest for life in you.  

Peace and Prayers,

Paul and Irene

Subject: English Translation of Axier's 'How to Graft an Adult Fig Tree' Replies: 9
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 2,108
 

Hi Folks, sorry for the confusion.  I had put the document on a file share and am not sure why it's now showing a warning [I got the warning too].

However I have now attached the file [PDF  447kb]  here:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=1427823

Regards,

Paul


PS Axier has made some updates but I have not yet updated the PDF.

 
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Subject: Blunder Of The Month Replies: 22
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Another place to get cups/lids is Smart and Final  (but call to see what they have in stock)    http://www.smartandfinal.com/locations/StoreLocations.asp


However, since many of my coworkers go to Starbucks, I ask them to save the large plastic cups/lids that Starbucks uses for  iced lattes, etc.  
I get 5-10 per week of them....adds up quickly.

http://keenetrial.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/starbucks-icedlatte.jpg

Subject: Be Careful What You wish For... Replies: 14
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 918
 
Jon's list is as comprehensive as any list can be.
If I find out I have duplicates with different names, it just means I have more items to pass on to others who have neither.

Subject: Italian Honey Cuttings Replies: 18
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,414
 
Not to hijack Stevin's message, but since it's for the exact same variety, I also have some Italian Honey cuttings available.


EDIT Sorry I should have made this more clear. I am only posting this in case Stevin gets more requests than he has Italian Honey cuttings remaining, I have some that I can provide.

Subject: Mi Amiga, Grasa and her Lessons Replies: 4
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 714
 

Muito Obrigado!  Thanks for the video clip!

It must be Brazilian Portuguese because I took a few classes  (the professor was from Brazil) and I can still understand some of it. Because of the classes I find it easier to understand than the "Português dos Açores" spoken in my hometown.  I really need to practice more!


Subject: OT: Productive apple tree found in San Diego CA! Replies: 6
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 665
 
I read somewhere that cutting off apple tree leaves while they are still green helps them go into dormancy. I'll check on that again.  I did notice no codling moth damage on the fruit....because there aren't any other apple trees around for miles! :-)

Today was 'jar up the home-cured olives' day!  :-)


Subject: OT: Productive apple tree found in San Diego CA! Replies: 6
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 665
 
An update on the apple tree. I sent the picture to the daughter of the original owners. She said it was her mom's tree and was planted before she moved away from home [probably in the early 1970s].

She said that she tried an apple once and it was the mealiest, worst apple she had ever eaten. I did tell her that the one I tried was quite good both in texture as well as flavor. I figure that since she lives halfway across the US from there, it might have been on the tree for months by the time she tried it.

I am still amazed that it produces fruit there, because the proximity to the ocean means it never gets very cold there....very few chill hours. 

Subject: Money Saving Idea (video) Replies: 9
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 819
 
I read the comments to that Youtube clip, and someone mentioned miniblinds containing lead. After doing some research, it seems aluminum miniblinds have never contained lead, but some of the vinyl miniblinds did. Therefore, it's a good idea to stick to Aluminum miniblinds.

Subject: Money Saving Idea (video) Replies: 9
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 819
 
The mini blind slats work well. I use them with a garden marker

Rather than buy a good blind and cut it up, stop by a window covering store and ask if they have any damaged blinds. They had 3 to give me and were happy for me to take them away. Less trash for them, free plant tags for me.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1270840901&postcount=11

Subject: Growing figs near Cabo San Lucas Mexico Replies: 10
Posted By: paulandirene Views: 1,409
 
@Forrest, it's definitely a special part of the world...the most amazing sunrises I have ever seen, and so different every day. I've been five or six times, and hope to return next autumn.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/559217_4988283910008_1705350530_n.jpg

 

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