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Subject: OT. Attention Pete (bullet08) Replies: 9
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 657
 

Phil, LOL
Hope it's a Hurricane.

I don't know I have never had a drink with a Umbrella. Hard to look manly with the tooty fruity, besides they are meaner on the eye than a Red Ryder BB gun I hear.

Subject: OT Time to head down to the Pawpaw patch Replies: 38
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Actually Pawpaws are very open minded in their sexual orientation , but they still have a few morals.  "The flowers are both male and female protogynous, meaning that the stigma (the female receptive organ) ripens before the pollen, and is no longer receptive when the pollen is shed. Thus the flower is designed not to be self-pollinated." Part of that is quoted right from the Kentucky State site. There is much good info there. below is that main link

http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/default.htm

Subject: Luckiest kids on the block Replies: 24
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Frank,

I miss them that age can you start an air layer for me

Subject: OT. Attention Pete (bullet08) Replies: 9
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 657
 
Come on guys let's drink like Men. Join me with this please.
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Subject: OT Time to head down to the Pawpaw patch Replies: 38
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Rafed,

Don't bother with waders the water is fine:) Actually you folks in midwest have an advantage I believe as it seems the native ones there are superior and believe most named cultivars came from that gene pool. Same for our native Persimmon. The 90 Chromosome northern type seem superior to the 60  Chromosome southern persimmon.

Pino,
They not hard to start from seed which resembles a kidney bean, but they need stratified ( cold treatment) and kept moist. I will put them into a ziplock with just damp peat moss or sand now and take them out in spring. They will take forever to show growth above ground so don't discard them and give up, and start them in a deeper pot like group planted in a 3 gal or so because the send a deep taproot prior to showing above ground. I started a few seed out of my fridge in early spring, and few are just starting to show above ground now, so be patient on germination.

Mike,

Sunflower tasted good and pretty much like my locals but larger and less seed, it's a yellow golden type. The lighter fleshed ones I don't believe are as good. I didn't notice an aftertaste and on very few have I ever, so maybe I am not sensitive to that, but I know a lot of folks mention that aftertaste. I have only tried this named cultivar of my own trees, but I have 3 of Petersen's selections and and few other's that I am looking forward to. I have tasted a few from other folks and thought them all superior to my native ones local in size at least. I think alot of those pawpaw patches are actually just a single plant connected with one root system and that's why is hard to find a productive patch. That and the normal pollinators don't visit them much. I have not tried road kill hanging in the tree as some have to attract the flies that assist in pollination, but I did pollen dabble with a paint brush. I had flowers on I think 3 cultivar, but only the one fruit held. Sunflower is stated to be somewhat self fertile, but I will never know as I will have others about.



Subject: OT Time to head down to the Pawpaw patch Replies: 38
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Scott,

You should have them another name for them is Hoosierbanana.  They are usually a understory tree, but produce better with good sunlight. They are supposed to suffer in sun and need some shade for 1st few years, but I have not tested a seedling in sun.  They like woodland edges as well. I look for them right along the bank, sometimes overhanging the water. but that's just my experience, but Neil Petersen named some of his cultivars by river names so I think the connection of along waterways is not just me.

Subject: OT Time to head down to the Pawpaw patch Replies: 38
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 1,062
 
The best way to find them native is to creek walk as Pawpaw Frequently found along the banks. I just put on some old shoes and wade down the creek. My kids used to love creek walks just about the best thing to do on a 90+ Aug day

Subject: OT Time to head down to the Pawpaw patch Replies: 38
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 1,062
 
They are hardy. I think most places list them to Zone 5.  They taste like a little banana little mango little I can't place. They don't ship well and go bad quick. Don't ever eat a overripe one I did once and you will regret it. They have a overpowering scent almost sickening sweet, and over ripe tends to make me nauseous. I don't think I would ever ship these as they are fragile, and besides this is my only fruit this year on young grafted trees. If I make up to the couple patches I know and if they have fruit this year I might have seeds, But I would suggest a grafted plant, or at least seed or seedling from a select plant. Most the wild ones around here smaller and seedier, but still tasty. If you really want to have some shipped a couple places try but I have heard mixed results on what folks received. "Integration Acres" is one place that tries to ship.

Subject: OT Time to head down to the Pawpaw patch Replies: 38
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 1,062
 


   This isn't from one of the couple Local patches I know, but the 1st from one of my grafted trees here at this place. This one is Sunflower, I have about 5 other cultivars which will be plenty when they all get a few years in.

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Subject: Genovese Nero Replies: 203
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What a beauty, and must be a Diva to change her appearance to mess with your minds

Subject: 8-21-14 A Blessed day Replies: 21
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Calvin,

I will look at the leaves, but the looks of the fruit  not on mine, I could not see them at all as the same, so much so that I have not really even thought of comparing the taste of the 2.

Subject: NOT MBVS Replies: 6
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Calvin.

Was thinking the same. I only got Nordland and LDA plants this summer. This was a cuttings started couple springs ago so I can compare them both, the fruit sure looks like what I have seen posted.

Subject: NOT MBVS Replies: 6
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Got this as just a extra that someone threw in couple years ago. I already had MBVS but I rooted it. I gave me one early large breba this year then last week a couple and another today. I know a couple possible guesses but I did not  get my best guess until recent. I have nothing else even remote to this fruiting yet so sure I did not mislabel.   The indiviual has large collection but not active of recent I will reach out to them for suspects but thought I would throw it out here as well. It is very sweet and rich and jammy, almost too sweet/rich for me to eat more than a couple, but it has a home here, very different for me.

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Subject: 8-21-14 A Blessed day Replies: 21
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And on 8-22-14 the Blessings continue. I started trying to just display 1 of each cultivar but I always seem to miss a couple. It's like fig voodoo I looked, took pictures upon review it seems figs had appeared!   Had a couple others ripe today but had already shown couple times so moved in a couple new for the season for me.

As far as the ?s on Hardy Hartford. It stands pretty well. Has more flavor to me than MBVS and Sal's Gene Strain so far pretty close to Unk Owensboro and Chicago Hardy, Gino's Black . Still a step or 2 behind Takoma Violet and Kesariani in my book. Not sure if others consider Dark Portuguese in that group as it tastes a little different to me. It's hard to get them all at peak on same day. Today I didn't have a Gino's to even line up.

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Subject: 8-21-14 A Blessed day Replies: 21
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Thanks for kind words folks,

Ed, Greg,

Hardy Hartford is impressing me so far. NewnanDawg liked it here a couple days ago, maybe he will comment as well.  Is it different enough than those other  fine figs if you are short on space?   I will try to focus a little more over the next week or so on that comparison and post it. I might put Gino’s Black and Unk Owensboro in that mix as well.

Goss, drive up for some pears  These are from my Ellijay trees, I have quite a bunch. The young trees here  not producing yet. I have some other cultivars not quite ripe yet .  I only picked ½ my Korean Giant, I should have left them on a while longer  Picking pears is tricky sometimes most  Euro’s  don’t ripen on tree well need picked while firm or they root from inside. Asians seem to be better ripened on the tree.

Elin, the pears are all in ground,  all these figs are potted but most have destiny with mother earth next spring.

I actually just realized I must have missed a row, almost certain I had Hollier and Gino’s black that were ripe today.


Subject: Just Awesome Replies: 11
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Rafed,

Yes I just had to:) Kesariani-inside.JPG 


Subject: 8-21-14 A Blessed day Replies: 21
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 722
 


Some of these not best example of the cultivar, but what I had today

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And to throw in some other fruit how about clockwise Williams Pride Apples, Korean Giant Asian pear, Seckel Pear, and Shinko Asian Pear

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Subject: My first taste of RdB today (with pictures) Replies: 30
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Trying to Air-layer my own backup as it has lived up to reputation here. taking forever to show roots however, really hope it takes as if not I might never taste another as it is my wife's favorite. To bad it is so easy to identify or I would move it out and swap in a imposter.

Subject: Takoma Violet main crop Replies: 13
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My Takoma, Gino's are 2nd year trees and my MBVS and Sal's Gene Strain  3rd year. Both my Takoma Plants are healthier more vigorous and more productive, and a little earlier than the others with a larger and more intense flavor to my palate fig, although my MBVS's are just starting now.  Really my 1st year with these fruiting with exception of MBVS and maybe a single fig or so from Sal's last year so right now It's the one I would keep if made to choose. I like the others as well and plan to keep all.

Subject: Takoma Violet main crop Replies: 13
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One of my favorites. So far I would rate it above all those, and I have them all ripe presently.

Subject: Just Awesome Replies: 11
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 517
 

Mike,

The Pleasure was mine, enjoyed the visit ,brave of you to venture out here in the sticks.   I am not sure about huge fig orchard, but 1.5 year into here I am making progress and will get there.  A lot of variety of young fruiting plants will see what all pans out.  

 Goss ,  Strudeldog Farms has a ring but that  would be my Ellijay place Strudel  did not make it here  he is buried on the ridge above the cabin there at the place he loved,  I  did make one more step to farm status today. My Barn passed final inspection and a farm needs a barn.

Rafed,  You really want me to take pictures of the inside of Mike’s hand?  I guess today there was more pickin and grinnin not so much pic. I did post some inside shots in a group settings couple days last week but will try and post some better pics of it here within a few days when some are ready. BTW that flash of silver below Mike’s  hand will be on a bus north at some point. the best I have is this one right now

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Subject: Air layers my way ATTN Harvey Replies: 41
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 Gives me ideas for improvements on what I do. I do cut the neck off with a blade and did slice myself on the 1st airlayer of the year. within couple days I bought some rooter pots but still use some bottles. One note on the foil which I always use be careful on recycling it. We had some I think was from baked sweet potatoes I recycled being the green and cheap guy I am, well apparently  the neighbors dog has a sweet potato tooth.

Subject: Coke the Pause that Refreshes Replies: 12
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Thanks all,

 

I don’t know I can rate them all as I am slowly coming out of a Latex induced comma, or maybe it was my job, I enjoyed them all, well the figs that is. maybe not the job.

In the light category the Unk White Italian continued to impress both me and the wife and today it rules the lights. I call it refreshing very juicy but with much more flavor than my LSU Gold for a comparison. and these LSU Gold were good. I have had the watery LSU Gold, but I have been very dry and these recent LSU Gold the best I have had of that cultivar. My Excel sometimes dryish I think maybe because I picked them too early but today they were better, I think my plant is pot bound as well, which Might?? Account for the dryness? My Unk Marseillies White was probably in 2nd of lights today. I am pretty sure is true, but I am slow to remove the Unk and doubt I ever will. Latarolla today I rushed by at least a couple days, but what a pretty blemish free fig. It doesn’t seem to develop the sugar spot browning as many do and really stays green and doesn’t yellow as much, so maybe I am picking them way too soon? Would think if you have bird issues this may be the one to actually fool them.

The darks I am hard to pick a winner today. Takoma Violet, Kesariani, Unk Owensboro, and Chicago Hardy were all intoxicating today. And Florea is such a gem, maybe overshadowed by some in complexity of flavor today, but she has been feeding me for weeks before anyone else was blessing me so she has a place in my heart, kinda like that 1st kiss.

Rafed,

Yes my wife likes old things and that’s a good thing as I am getting there quickly myself. I was looking for something to keep the cultivars separated and today every compartment was occupied, so maybe I will graduate to something that comes in a 24 case as opposed to 12. Where is Pete when you need him , best wishes to him as I understand he was not feeling well.

Barry,

This was my second maybe third day of Unknown Owensboro. It was really good and couple of these guys were  way ripe. I think maybe Jason on his threads compared it to Sal’s Gene strain, but to me It was more like Chicago Hardy today. I know maybe they have been called the same if I recall but my Sal’s gene leaf looks different than Owensboro, and Sal’s Gene did not match the other darks with intensity of flavor today but was still good. BTW that Latarolla was from your cuttings that offered up to any quick responder on the forum 2 years ago. I think EJP3 brought this cultivar to us so thank you both.

 

Grasa,

As far as topping I can sure hope but If I go lift a few more tree skirts(leaves) and find a gem I might not come out of that Latex comma, but what a way to go


Subject: Is this plant abuse? Replies: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueboy1977
Uncle Wills is a kind and generous man! I don't care what Hman and Aaron say about you;)
  HA You can't go crossing forum lines here Blueboy. I am sure one of those layers is for Mr. CLint

Subject: Is this plant abuse? Replies: 35
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Wills,

I agree with Rafed. If I do my Decorate a fig tree for Christmas contest again next year that is a contender. I think alot of folks would love to find one of those Airlayers under the tree Christmas morning.

Subject: Coke the Pause that Refreshes Replies: 12
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From 12 O’Clock   (3 Excel)  (2 Sal’s Gene strain) (2 LSU Gold) (3  Kesariani) (2 Unk  Marseillies White) (2 Chicago Hardy) (1 Unk White Italian) (4 Unk Owensboro) (1 Latarolla) (3 Florea) (1 Hollier) and center (5 Takoma Violet)


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Subject: Just a few Figs Replies: 11
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Whats the one third up left 3 inches up 2 figs down 2 inches and over 1 fig and directly below:)

Subject: It's all good 8-12-14 Replies: 16
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Mike,

I think it's a winner, I never doubted you. Today's I probably picked 2 days early but I was trying to compare. I can't seem to mentalize the the different subtle flavors into labels some of you do but it I do taste differences. If you make it up here anytime during the next month I would think you will get to taste it. It has lot of figs on it despite the hacking I gave the young plant taking 2 air layers this year the second of which is about ready to cut the umbilical cord on . It seems to be a long season fig because I have ripe ones and figs that are way off yet.

Subject: It's all good 8-12-14 Replies: 16
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Florea was good but not as intense of flavor as some Those today were way ripe they were basically pudding. It best thing was it's been it's giving me multiple main crop figs before any other, and waiting those 1st tastes of the year bumps it up in my book. Mine is a very compact tree http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/florea-72914-7015973?pid=1283730477#post1283730477

Subject: Summer Trivia Question Replies: 30
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Are those my only options? Where is the 3 toe chart?  

Subject: It's all good 8-12-14 Replies: 16
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Come on up Goss, those are the RDB that were not quite there this weekend you were goggling . I am just starting to catch stride here. A big year of 1sts for me off mostly 2nd year trees.

Today RDB stood out, yesterday Kesariani beat it out, today I rushed those a day or 2 trying to fill out that board and I wanted to sample side with a couple others. I enjoyed them all. A pleasant surprise was UNK Bill's white Italian, did not know what to expect there, anyone else growing this from Saxonfig. It might? be from Mario but not sure about that. Today to my palate it was 2nd best light on the plate with exception of Hollier, but I need to evaluate over extended period, I don't always get everything at peak. Tacoma Violet has really impressed me in taste, productivity and plant vigor.

James,
here is my 1st fig date of each of these give or take a day or so, some put out a single then nothing for a week but this shows 1st I might start recorded peak production date, seems like a more relevant reference to me.

Florea    7/26/2014
Tacoma Violet 7/30/2014
Kesariani    8/3/2014
RDB    8/6/204
Hollier    8/7/2014
Bill's UNK white Italian 8/9/2014
Lattarolla    8/9/2014
Celeste    8/10/2014
Atreano    8/10/2014



Subject: OT Apricots do grow in Maine Replies: 20
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Apricots are very hit and miss in every zone in my opinion. Being very early to bloom they are often hit by late cold spells, so it's not just a warmer zone but how fluctuating your spring weather happens to be. I grow 3 cultivars and had pretty good bloom on and got a freeze, so I have no fruit. If you guys get a bum tasting seedling PM me in winter for scion

Subject: It's all good 8-12-14 Replies: 16
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From 12 O’Clock

(2 Latarolla) (2 Tacoma Violet) (1 Hollier) (2 Florea) (2 Unk White Italian from Saxonfig) (3 RDB) (2 Celeste) (1 Atreano) (2 Kesariani)


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Subject: Message to Jon and my friends (update post #$49) Replies: 160
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Very upsetting to state the least, but I understand.  I have not been on the forum except for glance for  the last week or so. Kind of on a mini break as some of the same personalities that bother you irritate me and I often just try to ignore the ignorance, but I guess I take the weak way out, and understand why maybe yourself and others feel more compelled to confront the ignorance. Just as last year when a few significant individuals left it was upsetting as well. A couple crossed the line of decency and civil communications, and some that stayed did as well. Some of the same things the departed were upset about I agreed with completely.  Jon does not moderate this forum in my opinion and has basically stated as such. Do I agree with that no, do I accept it yes. Maybe I am too compromising in my tolerance, and have not confronted the level of ignorance and arrogance that Aaron  exhibits, but don’t think I just jumped on the dislike wagon as I have been there pretty much since post 1, but just choose to mostly ignore. You can call me targeting him, and fine I don’t care. There are few are high on that list of irritating, and I am sure I am on some dislike list,  but in general I find they are far outweighed by in general with the good nature of the majority so while we all get frustrated at times and as other have stated I would ask  reconsider.


Subject: Florea 7-29-14 Replies: 15
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Goss

Thanks for the Offer. Will try to make down your way in a week or so about the duplicates we discussed, will think about the Florea then. I think I have 3 duplicate pomegranates I will tote down as well if you interested.  
 

Subject: Florea 7-29-14 Replies: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosierguy86
Thanks for sharing pics, Phil! Do you remove some of the leaves on denser trees or just let them do their thing? I have a few really dense foliage trees.


I don't. I actually like the dense look visually, not sure it's impact on fruiting, but I have not found a real vigorous or an unruly branch for an air layer on this one to have my backup it has a nice shape so I have been waiting. That was a big goal this summer on my trees that I only have a single of I wanted a backup prior to planting out next spring. The plan was this spring but last winter gave me cold feet and thinking sizing them up another year. I have my barn going up and will be insulating one room for a safe room for winter. I have pretty much been exiled from the garage.  I do thin out some that put up to many trunks like my Scott's black which has seemingly dozen trunks but none dominant or over a foot. I should have thinned that one already, but will wait until dormant for cuttings.

Subject: Florea 7-29-14 Replies: 15
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V,
I would call it sugary
 
Ed,
Yes 2nd year tree

Steve,
Yes, "nodal distance is short so you end up with very dense foliage"  that describes mine as well.


Subject: Florea 7-29-14 Replies: 15
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First one I have had with multiple figs ready this year. Maybe I am fig starved after long fast with the exception of a couple breba, but I sure tasted great, don't ask me for a flavor profile yet I am terrible at that. Think great asset is it's that it's early and everything early season is exciting. My tree is only about 18 inches single trunk but many low full branches. Are other folks Florea that same growth profile very shrubby and compact.
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Subject: Genovese Nero 7-29-14 Replies: 19
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Good work Mike

Subject: Macool 7-22-14 Replies: 20
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 776
 
Mike is off an running again strong in the 2014 season. Love this time of year on the forum yourself, JD, others showing great figs post after post.

Subject: Setting up your own drip irrigation system Replies: 15
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Tim,

I use the Spot-Spitters as well, I love their simple design nothing to go wrong if they plug up just pop off them and back on. Remove a pot?  pop off and reverse the stick until you need that feed. the .125 feeder line punch a hole direct in the main line stick it in and it self seals. no fittings adapters just main line to feeder line to irrigation stick.  Your setup is real advances beyond what I do I basically have a long length on 3/4 inch with tons of 1/8 that I have snaked about season after season in whatever config I have my pots in. It's indestructible as well. I am using the same line I pulled from my citrus grove in 1994? exposed above ground all that time to sun and freezes and I bet it would last 100 more years.

Subject: Adriano's Whopper Red Delicious Replies: 32
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Envious  How large is the main crop?

Subject: RDB STOLEN Replies: 30
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 1,227
 
I would blame the dog, when something comes up missing here that's the likely suspect. 

Subject: F4FF Auction- Easton Vasilika Replies: 67
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 2,741
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtp
Trooster is exactly what my wife has been wanting to add to our flock. Giant Cochin, right?
  Yes large Cochin with all those feathers he looks like 25+ lbs but I would guess really between 12-15 lbs. Still a big bird, and very easy on the hens quite the gentleman doesn't pull their feathers out. that picture  doesn't do him just justice his markings are actually quite bright.

Subject: F4FF Auction- Easton Vasilika Replies: 67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strudeldog
Well I wish I had seen this before. I will bid one rooster I don't know if he is worth $200 but he is a pretty one.


WHAT? I did not win? oh well good job, by all of you for a good cause and  a good man. I will have to rethink my bidding strategy Gee! cupcake.JPG 


Subject: F4FF Auction- Easton Vasilika Replies: 67
Posted By: strudeldog Views: 2,741
 
Well I wish I had seen this before. I will bid one rooster I don't know if he is worth $200 but he is a pretty one.

Subject: An overdue step over update Replies: 46
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Looks great and so does the pool on a hot July day.  Do you plan on pruning them down to the horizontal every couple years and let new trunks develop or let them develop mass on the trunks.

Subject: Why bother to grow your own? Replies: 10
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That is a GREAT morning Ken and Manny. I rarely find trees driving around my area. In the older areas of Atlanta there are quite a number, but that is a couple hours from me.

Subject: Angry Birds Replies: 21
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They saw the styro cup full of potting mix and assumed was full of your fishing worms.

Subject: Another eBay record... Replies: 41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mgginva

Can someone show me how to pull part of someone else's text into a new window so folks know what issue or statement is being answered or commented on. thx.
  

To Quote a person click the " just to the left of the post # which brings up their whole post and remove all but what you want to quote between the beginning and ending  Quote markers.

 

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