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Subject: Today's trip to Laconia NH to get some trees. Replies: 6
Posted By: udaman Views: 779
 
I picked up a few trees today from Kerry (drivewayfarmer) and his wife Barbara.   The weather was perfect for a very nice trip to visit some very nice people.

I wanted a Rhonde de Bordeaux and a Malta Blk, and I walked away with a Celeste, Negronne, Natalina, Adriatic, and a Dessert King.

JACKPOT!!!!

His screen name, drivewayfarmer is accurate, as you can see by the pics below.  He's got well over a hundred trees, all growing in the driveway.  Green thumb?

Thanks Kerry, nice seeing you again, and I'll make another trip next year.


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Subject: Cold weather question Replies: 16
Posted By: udaman Views: 960
 
I put my trees in the cellar a few minutes ago.  The temps are said to go to upper 20s tonight.  I didn't have the time to erect the plastic tunnel today, so the cellar is the answer for me.

Last night went down to upper 30s and I left my trees out.  I don't see any bad effect from that, but below 32, and it's time for protection.


Subject: UC Davis Scionwood Replies: 18
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,659
 
I sent my order on 8/20 and got the email today.  I guess they're catching up on the recent orders.

Subject: ( Final Update. No Evil Will Hex My Fig Trees Now. ) This Is What I Found In One Of My Containers Today ! Replies: 82
Posted By: udaman Views: 4,230
 
You've heard of Laurel and Hardy, Abbot and Costello?  Now meet Nick and Dominick.   :)




Subject: Funny Math Replies: 9
Posted By: udaman Views: 748
 
As a retired programmer, I'm just still doing my job.

Subject: Funny Math Replies: 9
Posted By: udaman Views: 748
 
Software glitch.

There are currently 131 users online: 8 members, 12 guests, 1 invisible
Most users ever online was 131 on Yesterday at 06:46 PM.


Subject: ( Final Update. No Evil Will Hex My Fig Trees Now. ) This Is What I Found In One Of My Containers Today ! Replies: 82
Posted By: udaman Views: 4,230
 
Here's an interesting web page for " La Vecchia Religione".

Sicilian Strega

I'm second gen Sicilian/American, I don't carry those superstitions, but they're interesting to know.

Subject: cuttings question Replies: 6
Posted By: udaman Views: 829
 
I wouldn't use chicken manure since it's very strong and can burn fine roots.  Save it for mature trees, but only in very small quantities.



Subject: when is it time to start getting ready for winter? Replies: 9
Posted By: udaman Views: 872
 
Don't remove all the leaves, only 20% or so.  Otherwise the tree will use energy to ripen the figs, and without leaves the energy cannot be replaced to the tree.

I've been removing pea sized figs since mid August, and pinching a few of the branches.


Subject: ( Final Update. No Evil Will Hex My Fig Trees Now. ) This Is What I Found In One Of My Containers Today ! Replies: 82
Posted By: udaman Views: 4,230
 
Strega Nonna!

Subject: Advice for preparing containers for winter storage?? Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,246
 
Alan,

I agree with you in general about climate in Vermont, but I don't think it's cloudier here than most other parts of the northern states.  I'll offer as an example the weather in Oregon, or Washington state.  Both of which are milder than Vermont, due to the tempered sea breeze, but considerably more cloudy.  And after  39 years that I've lived here, I don't think it's any less sunny than when I lived in NYC.

The length of daylight increases as one moves north from the equator, so the length of day is longer in Vermont than in North Carolina in summer.  As is the length of day at the North Pole, the land of the midnight sun, where the sun never sets during summer.  Sun's rays are less direct in higher latitudes, but day length makes up for some of that.

I'm trying to pick the types of trees that are cold tolerant, or known to do well in pots.  There's much experimentation and learning ahead, so I hope to use the knowledge of others on this forum, such as yourself, to shorten the time it takes to choose those varieties.  But some experimentation is also fun, and keeps things interesting.

As my trees mature, I'll watch for greater fruit production and quicker ripening.  I'll also try direct planting a mature tree in ground.  I've started looking at my most protected areas to find a micro zone on my land that might support fig survival during our really cold winters.  I'm not counting on this to work, but it's worth a try.  Nothing ventured, nothing gained

Subject: Ficus gasparriniana - fig species from China Replies: 6
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,651
 
Translation according to Google.

This is a close relative of the fig, usually for medicinal purposes.

this old world is getting smaller by the minute.

这个旧世界越来越



Subject: Advice for preparing containers for winter storage?? Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,246
 
Ingevald,
Thanks for your tips, I'll make note of them.  I didn't realize Kansas is considered zone 5.  That gives me hope that I will succeed in 5a.


Subject: 2nd annual fig festival in Staten Island NY Replies: 41
Posted By: udaman Views: 3,282
 
I wish I'd have known of this sooner, I'd plan my fishing trip to Montauk earlier.  Enjoy the festival and maybe next year I'll plan to make it.

Subject: Advice for preparing containers for winter storage?? Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,246
 
Kerry,

I erected the tunnel within 10 feet of my cellar, so If I needed to move them in I could do so easily.  My trees are still young and the pots are not very big and heavy, so moving them only takes a few minutes.

I plan on re-potting most of them next spring into their mature pot sizes, so moving will take more of an effort.  An alternate heat source may be the next big investment.

Let me clarify on something I may have confused, the trees did not bud out completely, but the buds only started to swell within that time period.  I was watching for that to see if any of the trees did not show signs of live after their long winter's sleep.

I'm still not getting any ripe fruit, so maybe I need to be even earlier.  Or maybe I'm doing something wrong?


Subject: Advice for preparing containers for winter storage?? Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,246
 
Last year was my first year growing figs.  I left my plants out side under a simple tunnel covered with clear plastic until November 6, when I brought them into the cold cellar.  During the warmer days of October, I uncovered the tunnel so they wouldn't get too warm.  The trees dropped their leaves, and started going dormant during October.  I watched the night temps closely, and November started getting too cold to leave them outside any longer.

My cold cellar stays between 35-40 degrees, and was perfect for the plants.  I did not cover them, and I did not water them.  In early April I took them outside, placed them in the tunnel again, and watered them well.  They had buds forming after a week and a half in the tunnel.

I think I'll take them out a few days earlier next spring, if the weather is reasonable.  I think covering them is not a good idea, as Dominick has said.



Subject: Fig Orchard -Updated Replies: 48
Posted By: udaman Views: 6,675
 
All the best of luck to you loslunas.  Your hard work will prove it a success.

Subject: Black Triana figs Replies: 5
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,770
 
I too have a Blk Triana from Joe Morley.  This is it's second year, and doing very well, although it will be some time before the figs are ripe in my more northern zone.  I'm looking forward to tasting them.  I have only four or five figs this year, but I think next year should be much better.

Subject: UC Davis Scionwood Replies: 18
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,659
 
BTW, this link will list all the vars UCD has growing, but only those listed on the page you posted are available for cutting distribution.



Subject: UC Davis Scionwood Replies: 18
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,659
 
1. I thought it was 15 variety limit.  You often get 3 cuttings of each var you request.  Unless they have shortages of some vars.  I only got 1 cutting of VdB last year.

3. That page you listed says,
"Repository Inventory of Available Accessions for Ficus" so those vars are available, but no guarantee of quantity.

4. go with the most talked about vars here on this board.  It will take years to collect all the good ones.

I don't ask for many cutting from UCD.  I got cuttings for five vars last year, and this year I only requested seven vars.  It's easy to ask for more than you can handle.

Good luck and enjoy.


Subject: Assorted Figs Replies: 2
Posted By: udaman Views: 638
 
Thank you Alan.  I'll have to look at some description and learn about it.



Subject: Assorted Figs Replies: 2
Posted By: udaman Views: 638
 
Nice dish of figs.  I can't make out the name on the label for the figs at 12 o'clock, the longish ones.  They look like something I'd be interested in growing.  Can anyone help out a guy with poor eyesight?  Thanks.


Subject: Used Miracle-Gro Moisture Control Potting Mix, Am I Wrong??? Replies: 11
Posted By: udaman Views: 2,956
 
Make sure your pots have drainage holes on the bottom.  When I buy new pots, sometimes these holes are not punched out, and I have to open them with a nail.

Like others have mentioned, I water only when my soil is drying out.


Subject: Scion order Replies: 21
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,732
 
I sent an order to them on 8/21 and have not heard back from them.  I'm not concerned about it, and I'll wait weeks before I contact them again.

Subject: irene Replies: 2
Posted By: udaman Views: 452
 
I too have pulled up pots with roots growing into the ground, last year.  I saw no ill effects by doing that. 

I just put my trees into the cellar yesterday for the storm, and had some small roots that tore off, when I moved them.  I don't expect it will make any difference to them.

Good luck.


Subject: Hurricane Irene best wishes sent up and down coast. Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,707
 
I'm glad for you the oak fell in that direction.  I worry about the trees, every time I have wind.

I spoke to my son in Montauk, all is well, some power outages, but the road is open and the rain has stopped.  He'll check the neighbor's house on the beach to see how that is.

My brother in Farmingdale is also in good shape.  Although he was up all night watching for tornado's.

Here in Vermont, lots of rain, not much wind.


Subject: Is this Fertiler ok? Replies: 27
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,874
 
Weed tea is very simple.  I use comfrey, stinging nettle, and bedstraw, all of which I have growing in abundance here.  I pick handfuls of them, and put it in a five gallon pail filled with water.  Cover and leave it in the sun for 3-4-5 days.  Put a clothes pin on your nose, for the smell, and use the tea to water your figs.  I take out the stems after the tea is made and add it to my compost bin.  You can use almost any weed for the tea, as long as it isn't toxic to the figs.  Grass clippings, and goldenrod are also good to use.  I tend to make the tea strong, and thin with more water when i use it.

I add limestone to my soil mix when I make a batch, so that helps keep the acidity level near neutral.  I mix my own potting soil from my garden soil, compost and pearlite.  I always add limestone, azomite, and phosphate rock to each batch I make.  My soil tests slightly acid, as most New England soil does, so I always use limestone even in my garden.


Subject: Hurricane Irene best wishes sent up and down coast. Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,707
 
If you don't lay them flat, the wind will do it for you, and tear them up.  If it's only a few trees, take them indoors for a day or two.  If you have a lot of trees, or no place indoors to put them, lay them flat, and cover them.

I have ten trees in 5 gallon pots, I'll put mine in the cellar on Saturday, and leave them there till it blows away.


Subject: Is this Fertiler ok? Replies: 27
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,874
 
I'm strictly organic with all my vegetables and fruits.  In early spring and again in mid summer, I give the trees a shot of nitrogen with blood meal, and water with molasses tea.  Once, or twice a week I water with either compost tea, or weed tea.  Once in spring I water with 2 Tblspoon/gal of water epsom salt.   Plus I add compost to the top of each pot when I take the trees out of dormancy in spring.

At this time of the season, I only water with compost or weed tea to help ripen the figs, and slow down plant growth.

There's no danger of over fertilizing or burning the roots. 


Subject: Hurricane Irene best wishes sent up and down coast. Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,707
 
Dominick,

Tip the pots, lay them flat, and throw a tarp over them.  Less work.



Subject: Hurricane Irene best wishes sent up and down coast. Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,707
 
Thanks for the concern and warnings.  My mom and dad would go to the town shelter whenever there was a big storm, or hurricane, and the people there know how to handle these situations.  It's not his first or last time.   Anyway, how does one evacuate ten million people?

If he isn't there already, he'll be there soon.  He knows the drill, I'm sure if things get really bad, like two years ago, he'll pack up and go to the shelter.  He has tickets for the US Open tennis match on Sunday, and baseball game on Monday, plus the fishing season is just getting good.  I'll keep you posted.


Subject: Hurricane Irene best wishes sent up and down coast. Replies: 20
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,707
 
Ciao Maggie,

My son just left for Montauk LI, to spend some time at our house there.  In one way, I'm glad someone will be at the house to watch it during the storm, but I'm also concerned for him.  The house is very near the beach, and a storm surge could bring the water close to the house.

I got word that the East Hampton town officials are alerting police, fire and other emergency units to be on guard.  I hope for everyone this storm blows out to sea.



Subject: Monstrueuse Replies: 24
Posted By: udaman Views: 3,945
 
Thanks for the info on the figs, everyone.

I did find some info on the region that I think the variety comes from.

Aeolian Islands, Lipari and Milazzo



Subject: Figs 4 Fun in a Few...Weeks Replies: 35
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,912
 
Good for you JD.  I still have some work to do to get there, but it gives me hope.


Subject: Monstrueuse Replies: 24
Posted By: udaman Views: 3,945
 
I'm doing a little research on this fig, and I know some of you have grown it.  In the GRIN database it is also known as Grosse Monstrueuse de Lipari, which I think is French for "monstrous big of Lipari".  Isolo de Lipari is an island off the northern coast of Sicily, yet the name of the fig is French.

Is this cultivar from Isolo de Lipari?  Is Lipari Italian or French speaking, and is it politically Italian?

My fathers family migrated here from Sicily in 1916, and I've lost touch with any of my relatives in Sicilia and Naploi.

Here's the link to the GRIN database

Thanks.

Subject: How would you make new trees? Replies: 8
Posted By: udaman Views: 912
 
Everyone had great ideas on this, and thank you all.

The Atreano I will dig and cut the two shoots with roots, but not until next spring.  Knowing that my house is very dry during winter, because of wood heat, it's difficult keeping plants in the house.  And it would be hard making air-layers on such a short stem.

The Paradiso shoots are too small and green, so I'll take gorgi's advice and build up the soil around them and look for roots next spring.

This has been a very valuable lesson for me on how to handle different situations.  Thanks everyone.


Subject: How would you make new trees? Replies: 8
Posted By: udaman Views: 912
 
Thanks for the ideas.  I'm still trying to decide what to do.



Subject: How would you make new trees? Replies: 8
Posted By: udaman Views: 912
 
I hope these pictures upload.

In the first pic, I have an Atreano with two shoots growing from the roots.  Should I wait till next spring when I re-pot the tree to cut these from the roots to make trees?  Or, should I air layer them now?

In the second pic, I have a Paradiso with small green shoots on the base of the trunk.  Would you wait till next spring and make cuttings?

I would rather wait than risk loosing the cuttings.  Thanks for any help.

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Subject: Mr. Robin's inventory list for the reminder of 2011 Replies: 16
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,463
 
I just substituted Page1 for one link and here it is:

Page1

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Subject: My Petite Negri EL & Coll De Dame Blanc Replies: 15
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,485
 
That's a delicious looking fig, congrats.

Subject: Scion order Replies: 21
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,732
 
Thank you, Jim.


Subject: Scion order Replies: 21
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,732
 
I should have read this thread before sending my order yesterday.  I resent it to the orders address instead of Bernard.Prins.  Thanks for pointing that out.

I ordered:

Violette de Bordeaux
Capri A
Early Violet
Ischia Blk
Panachee
Pistiliere
Golden Celeste
Monstrueuse

Monstrueuse is described as:
Pale yellow-green fig with strawberry interior. Very sweet, juicy, intense fig flavor. Crunchy seeds. Medium-open eye. Pebbly rough leaves. Medium-to-large tree, does well near the coast.

Capri A has no description available,  has anyone tried growing any of the Capri fig varieties?

Thanks all.


Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux Figs Replies: 6
Posted By: udaman Views: 748
 
Kerry,

Put one of your RdB aside for me, a large one.  I'll be there as soon as I can.  If my son has room in Burlington for one, I'll take a nice Atreano for him too. 

I want to look at those 25 gal pots you told me about, and compare them to the pots at Home Depot.  I found their website, and I think can use a pallet of 20 pots.  The Sals #1, and Atreanos, I got from you need to be re-potted next spring.


Subject: What happened to my Newly Grow Fig? (Included Picture) Replies: 9
Posted By: udaman Views: 731
 
True with most plants, over watering is more dangerous than under watering.  I only water if the soil in the pot is too dry.  For me that is every 2 days or so, except in very warm dry weather, then I water daily.  Let the soil tell you when it needs water.

Keep those leaves away from your other trees.


Subject: Rooting Summer Cuttings 201 Replies: 117
Posted By: udaman Views: 10,327
 
Dan,

I think you've bit off more than you can chew, with all the questions you're gonna have to answer......LOL!

Can you please explain more in detail:
The BEST time to take them is "just before or during a fig and leaf flush event".  (Fig trees in my area can flush three times a year.)  Look for wood that is lignified.
What is a flushing event?  And, what is lignified wood?

Thanks for these lessons.  I'm a long experienced gardener, but now I feel like a novice.


Subject: Looking for cuttings Replies: 67
Posted By: udaman Views: 3,287
 
Pete,

You are exactly right....ignore him.  I'm a member of another online group, not fig related, and there is one member that gets his kicks by trolling for action.  He is very controversial, and has insulted many long time members of that group.  We finally came to the conclusion that he was doing it to be noticed.  When we stopped responding to his nasty behavior, he left for greener pastures.

Just my .02 cents.


Subject: Rooting Summer Cuttings 201 Replies: 117
Posted By: udaman Views: 10,327
 
Dan,

Since all plants convert CO2 to oxygen, and so need CO2 to grow well, I'll say you are adding CO2 to the bottles to produce roots and leaves.

I know some friends that add CO2 to their aquarium water to produce better growth in their plants.

Am I correct?


Subject: My trees in Vermont Replies: 12
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,080
 
Caneyscud,

You must then remember Euell Gibbons, "Stalking the Wild Asparagus", and "Malibar Farm", and "Five Acres and Freedom".  I too had many issues of Mother Earth News in the 70s.

Kerry,

Thanks for the lead on the pots.  I don't think I'll need a full pallet, but we'll see what we can do.


Subject: Rooting Summer Cuttings 201 Replies: 117
Posted By: udaman Views: 10,327
 
Well, I just had to subscribe to this thread to keep track of this method.  Interested in learning the mystery.



Subject: My trees in Vermont Replies: 12
Posted By: udaman Views: 1,080
 
Kerry,

I noticed your mention of Bills Figs, so I did a little searching, and I found this discussion from 2009.

That's an interesting potting method.  I especially like the black plastic top.  I'll have to give it a try.  Anyone else try the method?  Any modifications?  Where can I get the heavy duty pot Bill uses?

He has some beautiful trees.  Is he a regular at this forum?

 

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