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Subject: Varieties Recommended For Southern British Columbia Replies: 6
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Subject: Varieties Recommended For Southern British Columbia Replies: 6
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 386
 
Here are some pics
The tree last year; it was thirsty!!
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Subject: Varieties Recommended For Southern British Columbia Replies: 6
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Hi Paully,
The best result for me here in Brittany is by far "Grise de Saint Jean". My fastest and most producive fig tree. I planted it in march 2011 as a two feet tall little tree, and three years later it is over six feet! Last year despite a very cold spring, it gave me over 60 excellents brebas figs in august. This year which is warmer I got over 80 figs 10 days earlier, the tree even managed to produce some main figs as 2014 is the warmest year on record for over a century! For two years it got mosaic virus but eventually overcame the disease.
I discarded Osborn prolific, Dalmatie, Dorée, Ronde de Bordeaux, Pastilière. They have no brebas, they drop and main figs don't mature in my cool summer climate.
I'm still tasting Desert King, the brebas are not good (hope they improve), Grise du Brégoux, Dorée de Carpentras, Brunswick, Blanche and Black Marseilles that Geofiz (Michael) sent me, I had some small brebas and main figs with that last one. They are not bad but far behind Grise de St Jean.

Subject: Lampeira preta (ground) non irrigated Replies: 37
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Here you see a pic of my now unknown figtree.
Francisco, you said that Lampeira and carvalhal are the same variety but I can read here and there that they are distincts varieties!! According to Ira Condit in his "Figs varieties: a monograph" : about Lampeira
"Tree moderately vigorous. Leaves small; deeply 3-lobed.
"  a bit like mine in the pic!! yours are not deeply lobed!!?
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Subject: Lampeira preta (ground) non irrigated Replies: 37
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Francisco,
thank you very much for the pics! Well I had good reason to doubt about my Lampeira! the leaves don't look at all like the one in your pics! I'll post a pic of mine tomorow.
Now I have something else for three years!
I wonder why it is impossible to find Lampeira in France! Even Baud nursery don't have it! It would do great here, if the figs are so tasty so early in late spring in Portugal, I'm sure it will do as well here probably in august! with such amount of brebas! Dauphine and Croisic are the only ones to have a good breba crop, I'm trying Grise de Saint Jean with very good result too! It would be great to add a new variety!
I'm also trying Desert king which gave me a dozen figs for thr first time last summer, very disapointing, the taste was coarse! hope it gets better in future.
Anyway I would love to try it if you have the possibility to find and to send me a plant, I will pay it plus the fees!
Thank you!!

Subject: Lampeira preta (ground) non irrigated Replies: 37
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Hello Francisco,
Do you have a pic of the leaves of Lampeira? I bought a Lampeira plant in a nursery in south of France but I'm not sure if it is a true one, and I'm not convinced at all!
It has long leaves especially the central folioles wich are very elongated.
I live in western Brittany where summers are very cool, only brebas mature here, we can't get main crop figs even with the earliest varieties like Ronde de Bordeaux or Pastilière! So I'm looking for good brebas varieties like Lampeira. Do you know some others?
Obrigado
Yves

Subject: Smyrnas and 'Smyrnoids' Replies: 2
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Hello Francisco,
Do you have pics of Lampeira leaves and tree? I do have a small Lampeira fig tree, well bought as such, but I have some doubt because it looks very much like my Dauphine.
Otherwise, does it make good brebas test, and  in quantity?
Thanks for your answer

Subject: Atreano Replies: 52
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 2,752
 
Hello
FMD, are the figs on your pic brebas? when you say Atreano makes many figs, are they Brebas or main figs? they look very nice.
Thanks

Subject: Osborne Prolific performs well in cool weather Replies: 7
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 1,237
 
Hello Daniel,
My Osborne figs are also ripening for two weeks now on my second year tree in ground. There are about 20 figs on the 3 foot little tree. I was more than skeptical to see any main fig to mature here, so I'm pleased to see I was wrong!!
Ronde de Bordeaux is also maturing all its figs.
You should try Grise de St Jean, the figs are also maturing now. The taste is better, a good performance on my one year in ground tree! The breba are supposed to be still better than main crop!! and abundant too.
I have a Goute d'or in ground for 2 years and main figs are not at all ready yet, I think it needs more heat that my climate can provide.
The spring here was very warm and I still have to see if my trees would perform aswell in a normal spring.


Subject: Weeping Fig = Aldo/ Corleone Replies: 24
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Thank you for your answers. I remember in another post that the brebas were excellent too!

Subject: Weeping Fig = Aldo/ Corleone Replies: 24
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 2,886
 
I have red that it produces very early breba and main crop, it might be good for cool climate!??

Subject: Figs maturing after a heatwave Replies: 1
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I wanted to show my little harvest of figs after an historical heatwave here, six days above 80°F/26,6°C with a maximum of 83°F/28°C last sunday.
The weather has been very weird this year, with a very hot spring to start, april was 10°F/5°C higher than average, very sunny! Summer was lousy, very cool, grey and wet. And now this incredible heatwave! 100 years old heat records were exploded by 10°F/5°C. Some places on the north coast of Brittany recorded 87°F/30,8°C the first of october  where usually they barely get 70°F/20°C in high summer!!!
Ronde de Bordeaux was good, sweet and figgy, Osborne was watery and tasteless just a bit sweet. The best one was Grise de Saint Jean, subtle, sweet and figgy.

Here are some pics of my harvest

Ronde de Bordeaux sweet and tasty



Grise de Saint Jean sweeling and Osborne prolific



Osborne and RDB inside






Subject: Longue d'Aout pics Replies: 66
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Axier,
When does your Longue d'Aout main crop mature approximatively? and what is your summer's high temperatures average?
A friend of mine from Switzerland sent me a variety called "Nordland" and it looks very much like LDA. I wonder if it will mature here... not sure.
Thanks


Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
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My RDB also took three years to start bearing!
I search on F4F about Florea and I 'm very surprised how early this fig is!! I would like to try it! my summer can be quite dry may the taste will be ok.
is there any way to have some cuttings?


Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
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Thanks, I have (in pot) Blanche d'Argenteuil and Bécane. They 'll go in ground next spring.

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
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Hi Bass,
No I don't have a wall and I don't want to keep the fig trees in pot except for a samll variety. My "field" is well protected from the cold wind and face south east, so it gets warmish when the sun is there.
Do you think RDB will evolute to "settle" to my climate and eventually mature its fruits or it won't?


Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
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Hi BeninMA
I never heard of brevas de Galicia, how it is like? Sounds interesting though Galicia is warmer than here


Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 1,717
 
Hello Herman2
So little hope to get anything then! because RDB main figs didn't mature last fall here....
Well anyway I concentrate only on San Pedro types figs or good brebas figs makers like Grise de St Jean, Lampeira or King.


Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux earliest main crop? Replies: 17
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 1,717
 
Here in France, Ronde de Bordeaux is said to be one of the earliest main crop, maturing in early august, but that's not what I see! right now, main figs are bigger on my Osborne prolific, Dorée and Grise de Saint Jean!!
This spring was the warmest and sunniest on record in Brittany, the weather was excellent, so my trees started to grow late march. Now the summer is quite cool and grey.
Here are some pics taken today of my newly planted figs

Ronde de Bordeaux planted three years ago, with small main figs




Grise de Saint Jean planted last march




Dorée planted in march 2010



Osborne prolific planted in march 2010 is the most earlier, very promising!!



Desert King planted last march is growing very fast, I hope to have a good breba crop next year







Subject: Fig Tree in Normandy near D Day beaches Replies: 8
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There is a variety quite widespread in western Normandy especially around Cherbourg called "Violette normande". It matures well its fruits in fall. Cherbourg is the coolest place of France 20°C/68°F for the high average in summer!

Subject: Figs varieties for very cool climate Replies: 17
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 5,754
 
Thank you for your answers!

Herman2,
It is weird the way figs react depending the climate because Grise de St Jean here doesn't have an open eye and stand well the rain! Are you sure you had the true Grise de St Jean?

Kiwibob,
I know your excellent website, very interesting! Do you know the name of Dan's favorite? will you do other tests? they are many varieties to try!

Bob,
There is nearly nothing about Olympian, it seems promising!

Is there anyway to have some cutings of it and also Marseilles VS too?

Yves




Subject: Figs varieties for very cool climate Replies: 17
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Hello Michael,
Yes it is me Kelern ;-)
My C australis planted in 2008 was rather small in a 2l pot and one foot tall is now triple as big, it started slowly and speed up once bigger. It is in a cold spot, has sun in morning only till 11h. It is a bit faster than D antarctica and is as much cold hardy, last winter saw -3°C and a foot of snow that last for a week, it didn't burn the foliage. A D squarrosa beside had its leaves burned. You should plant many, they are strong, I find them less fussy than D antarctica, squarrosa and C smithii standing better the sun, but water them!
I don't have medullaris yet but a friend of mine has a 2,5 metters tall (stipe) one in a much colder area than me, 9a. He wraps the stipe in the fall, the leaves freeze in winter and bounce back every spring.
Cheers


Subject: Figs varieties for very cool climate Replies: 17
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 5,754
 
Hello Bass
No I never did it.
Cheers


Subject: Figs varieties for very cool climate Replies: 17
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 5,754
 
Thank you for your answers,

Paully, I never heard of those varieties: Barbillone, Nebo, Marseilles VS, Granthams Royal,  Gino, Florea, Takoma Violet, Falicciano.
Dorée rot easily here. Longue d'août is a good bet in dry soil.

Geofiz (Michael?),
I enjoyed your article! It seems that DK is the best for cool area, I didn't know the taste was that good! a good new.
Dauphine as you know is a San Pedro type, it can make some autumn figs without Blastophaga but the Breba is much more abundant. It is quite common in south Brittany (warmer and sunnier than here) where I saw trees with eavy crop the first days of last august, they are vigourous and get quite tall. I remember one particular tree that was big enough to cover half a garden and some part of the street, the sidewalk was sticky with smashed figs, the figs on the tree were leaking, with many birds and insect buzzing around including me :-).
The taste is good, juicy but not overwhelming, not the best fig for me, a bit to juicy.
Lampeira is not very known in France, there is not report about it. I red a report from the
portuguese department of agriculture for the fruits growers saying that it was the best bearer of brebas and two weeks earlier than Dauphine
And Grise de Saint Jean is not recommended out of the mediterranean area, it is one of the most cold sensitive fig tree and freeze badly at -12°C/10°F. In Provence it is famous and grown for its abundant breba crop which is said to have the best taste of all the french varieties. Cuttings are difficult to root.
It is fussy when young to acclimatise, need a moist soil and makes a large tree, not for a small garden!

I'm a bit intrigued about Marseilles VS, never heard about it. It seems an early variety, is there any document about it?
In France we only have Figue de Marseille and Marseillaise, both white figs.
Cheers


Subject: Figs varieties for very cool climate Replies: 17
Posted By: Gwenn Views: 5,754
 
Hello to all,
This is my first message so forgive my english, my name is Yves, I live on the north west coast of Brittany, there the climate is oceanic, with a very cool summer at 14-21°C/58-70°F on average for the low/high and a mild winter at 5-10°C/41-50°F. The USDA zone is 9B with -2,5°C/27,5°F at the lowest expected every year. 800mm/31" of rain with 2/3 fall between october and march.
I'm looking for figs varieties that would give a good crop of figs in such climate.
Here we have a very popular fig called "Croisic" (Gillette) for the figs are juicy and fairly sweet here. Croisic is a town in south Brittany where that fig was first described.
I have Ronde de Bordeaux in ground for three years now, it bears around 30 figs for the first time this year but figs are just ripening right now with a bland taste, a bit to late especially this year which is the coolest for ten years.
In pot I have Dalmatie (Stella), Goutte dorée, Pastillière, Brown Turkey, give no figs or to late.
I planted this year: Dauphine gave one nice big juicy fig in august!! Osborne's prolific, Desert King, Grise de Saint Jean.
I think I should look for The San Pedro type figs like Desert king or common type with an abundant and good Breba crop like Grise de Saint Jean, a cold tender but very early and excellent breba crop, the most famous breba of France.
As a San Pedro I found Lampeira in addition to Desert king, it's a portuguese variety with an excellent breba crop also called figue des confiseurs (Confectioner's fig) and very early too! It produces the first week of june, two weeks earlier than Dauphine in Portugal.
Do you have any experience of figs varieties for cool areas?, I'm thinking about the people from the Pacific northwest, North California, Oregon, Washington and British Columbia.
Thank you very much.
Yves


 

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