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Subject: On a Rainy Day Replies: 16
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Great pictures, I like the look and use of the pine needle mulch!

Subject: OT - put in a bid Replies: 96
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Sorry to hear, don't get stressed out. I closed recently on first home purchase... it was a very stressful process with lots of ups and downs. I was able to get the home I always wanted though at the end of the process (I am sure you will find the right place soon). Got very lucky with 10% down and 3.75% 30yr rate. It also helped that my realtor was a friend of the other realtor. The closing had to get extended 1 month out due to a lender stepping out on me 2 weeks before original closing (now that was stressful)!

Try to keep your focus on what you want. Don't get emotionally tied to any home, and be very receptive to the whole process trying to facilitate any communication between all parties. What you need to do is relax and recollect your thoughts go over the process with your significant other, and look at all your options. If you don't absolutely need to move, I would consider waiting on the sidelines until things cool off a bit. It seems that you are working against the tide atm (I think its best not to be so eager, to avoid getting caught up paying much more then you should).

Best of luck to you!

Subject: OT - put in a bid Replies: 96
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Just wait on the sidelines don't chase up prices in this real estate market. The rates are rising, so if your cash rich there should be plenty of good deals to be had in about 6 months to a year. Real Estate market is looking bubbly again in the PNW and SW.

Subject: Many plants but new to figs Replies: 20
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"Welcome!  Unless you're in the Southern Hemisphere it's still early. "

Not totally true :), I just bought and ate some CA grown figs today. Of course the quality is not as good as home grown and peak ripeness, but it was decent.

Anyway welcome to the forum Paul_D!

Subject: Potting soil for self watering pots (SWP) Replies: 19
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This is a 'Mauritius' lychee in a 18 gal tote. Using close to a 60% sand mix with about 20% pine bark and 20% cactus soil mix (did not have the pumice and other materials on hand so used this to fill the gap).

Trichocereus 'Epic', this is in a regular container however its using a pinebark, coco coir, perlite mix, with some crushed mesquite added.

Subject: Potting soil for self watering pots (SWP) Replies: 19
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50/50 should work well. Just make sure the coir is decent quality with lower sodium content (prewashed). If you can get the large chunky perlite even better.

Subject: Potting soil for self watering pots (SWP) Replies: 19
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I did some experiments the past 3 years in 18 gal tote SWCs with the sand mix. I got the best results with the sand mix from my tests. I would mulch every 3-4 months with pine bark on the top. My healthiest container plants where in the 18 gal SWC totes with sand/pine bark 60/40.

Eventually I tried coir and sand and got great results. Sand will only work well in an SWC situation, due to the unique wick setup (regular containers it will not perform well at all!). Any of the following will work great mixed in good ratios (using only 2 or all in the mix). Ratios may do better for different plants, personally I will adapt the mix to the plant.

Sand (20% to 80%)
Coco Coir (40% or lower)
Mesquite charcoal (natural) (20% or lower)
Pine Bark (10% to 70%)
Pumice (30% or lower)


Construction sand should work, just make sure to shift out the rocks. I recommend river sand because its a higher quality more uniform grit size. I would prewash the construction sand as well. One thing about sand is you want to make sure your not getting a high salt content in it (ex. beach sand).


Personally for a optimal fig specific recipe I would go with something like;

30% sand (river preferred), 10% mesquite charcoal, 20% Pumice, 20% coir, 20% pine bark

You get a little of everything and high quality ingredients.

*Sand, adds nice minerals (slow break down) good anchor for roots
*Charcoal, enhances the mycorrhizal colonies, improves aeration, and raises ph a tad
*Pumice, increases drainage and aeration
*Coir, water retention and aeration
*Pine bark, lowers ph and adds organic matter for mycorrihizal colonies and worms

All the these ingredients will last easily 2 years, performance I believe won't decline for a while (it may actually improve after the first year due to the initial breakdown and happy colonies of mycorrhizal and worms living in the container.

Fertilizer schedule (This is mainly a guideline, roughly using the amounts works for me well, some plants will like more fertilizer while others do fine with less);

Once a week all the time during active growing
*Fresh worm castings water (I would do it every watering if you have it available)
*Compost tea (if available)
*Table spoon of brown sugar, molasses, or corn syrup per gal of water
*Using an air stone with the water, castings (or compost tea), and sugar source for 24 hours p prior to using supposedly increases effectiveness
*Teaspoon of mycogrow (first three watering for that plant)

Vegetative schedule every week
*1 tablespoon of fish emulsion per gal
*1 teaspoon of kelp powder and humic acid per gal
*1 teaspoon Yucca powder (for water absorption) per gal

*1 tablespoon of fish emulsion per gal
*1 tablespoon of kelp powder and humic acid per gal
*1 tablespoon of rock phosphate
*1 teaspoon of Yucca powder

Twice a year
*1 tablespoon of epsom salt per gal
*1 teaspoon of iron chelate per gal
*1 tablespoon of azomite per gal

Now what I do with these 1 gal mixes, is distribute it to the plants based on size of the plant and container size. Ex. I have a fig tree in a 15 gal container and its 5 ft tall, I am going to use the whole 1 gal mix on it. If there is a seedling in a 4 inch container, I am going to use about 2 tablespoons of mix on it.

Before applying the Vegetative, Flowering, and Twice a Year mix. I like to presoak the container with the water/castings mix or just water (as if you were just watering). Then apply the mix after that is done. Finish with a slightly watering just to wash some of it around the container and off the leaves.

I mainly use this as a soil drench, however you can use the castings and vegetative mix as a foliar spray (at night) dilute by about 1/2. This fertilizer schedule is all natural and its very hard to burn your plants. The goal of it is to feed the soil and boom the mycorrhizae populations. This works very well in an SWC because all that natural fertilizer runoff is brewing in the water reserve (its like a super fertilizer when the feeder roots get in there).

Subject: Potting soil for self watering pots (SWP) Replies: 19
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I would stay away from using any peatmoss in self watering containers. It breaks down and turns into mush after 1 year. I have found 60% river sand and 40% coco coir to be optimal. I mulch with a nice layer of pine bark mulch. The great thing about this sand mix is it can be easily washed out and mostly reused. Adding 20% pumice and 20% coir instead might be a good option as well, though I think the figs can cope with the more moisture available as long as you go lighter on the watering during the first year.

The only issue with this mix is its on the heavy side. The combination of the coir and wick action gives the mix good aeration. I add fish emulsion and kelp powder biweekly, with an initial tablespoon or so of azomite into the mix.Mycorrhizal fungi is added in with first few water schedules. I also add rock phosphate near fruiting time.

Great thing about the SWC is you can skip the time release fertilizer. Most of the organic fertilizer will run off into the reserve, where the feeder roots will happily uptake it. I always dilute by about half strength due to the reserve.

Subject: Is Seaweed Good For Your Fig Tree? Replies: 14
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I like the kelp meal/humic acid mix. I use that with fresh worm castings, azomite, yucca powder, fish emulsion, and rock phosphate. Plants seem to love it, also add some mycogrow which seems to really work well (I have clear containers so can see the nice fungi colonies around the roots of some of the plants.

Subject: Turned into a fig addict! Replies: 5
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Thanks for the information, that clears Zidi up. I hope all is going well in your garden.

Subject: Turned into a fig addict! Replies: 5
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Thanks for the info, I thought fig wasps may be in South Florida, but I have been searching and could only find that native fig wasps are there not the carp fig type? I did find references of Paradiso being similar to Brunswick, if that is the case it may be one on the list to get remove. Maybe I could pull it off in containers...

Subject: Turned into a fig addict! Replies: 5
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I started to collect figs in 2010. Started with a Vista fig from Jon. I just realized I now have more fig varieties then any other fruit tree (LOL!). Thank you from those generous ones on the forums, ebay, and a few other online nurseries. Here is what I got so far;

Carini (Figgy Frank)
Dark Portuguese
JH Adriatic
LSU Gold
Marseilles vs black

I already gave away a Brunswick and Kadota. Does anyone see any redundancy on the fig list. Btw, most of these figs are destine to be grown in FL. So if there is anything on the list that performs horrid in high humidity and rain conditions, give me a heads up! Thanks everyone again for your time and generosity.

Subject: Fig Fiesta Replies: 81
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Count me in, Saturday is better then a weekday for me. Would be very enjoyable to have a fig tasting, some food (maybe a potluck), and of course a plant sale/plant exchange.

Subject: Breba New World. Replies: 114
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Loved the tasty looking photos and description. The Vista looks very good, glad I am growing this one.

Subject: I may plant Basil in some of my fig pots... Replies: 9
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Oregano, Stevia, Silene inflata, and Rosemary seem to work well with companion planting for me.

Subject: OT: Pictures of container garden Replies: 3
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Yeah its in a 12 to 15 gal container. It has however rooted in the ground. I am going to trim it back and unroot it from the ground soon.

Subject: OT: Pictures of container garden Replies: 3
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Here are some pictures I took 2 days ago of the container garden.

'Epic' Trichocereus hybrid

'Reed' Avocado, the only one left ripening from last year. It was looked over until 2 days ago :).

'Angel Red' pomegranate with dragon fruit vines coming out

Section of the garden with 'Jewel' Blueberries on the left and tons of other edible plants mixed in.

Hope everyone enjoyed.

Subject: Moving Out Replies: 15
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Nice job! Everything is looking good, got an army of figs coming up.

Subject: Some pictures of the fig plants Replies: 8
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Thanks guys, I have a few other figs that did not get pictures yet :). Otherwise I got a ton of other edible plants which I am growing.

Subject: Some pictures of the fig plants Replies: 8
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Took some pictures of the fig plants today and last few weeks.



JH Adriatic and another Paradiso

Left to Right; Carini, Marseilles Vs Black, Panache

Dark Portuguese



Subject: Grafting a Loquat Replies: 4
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I got like 75% take with loquats using cleft graft on about 6 out of 8. Scion was about chopstick to pencil size. All were grafted in Feb. Made sure the cambium layers lined up. I also made sure they were tightly sealed with buddy tape. I am by no means a master grafter, these are my first successful with loquat.

I left most of the leaves intact and then took off all leaves except one, after the graft pushed. I just made sure the grafts were made on stems showing active growth.

Subject: issues with container soil. Replies: 44
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U should try coir instead of peat i use the 5 11 mix but with coir and add a bit of cow and mushroom compost too keep moisture,i learnt the hard way how figs need to be keep moist in summer just one day of heat figs will drop,try cuttings with just coir like members from Indonesia its very light and fluffy roots love them and breaks down slower than peat.

I use a similar mix minus the mushroom compost. Every plant that I have tried loves the mix.

Dark Portuguese in the mix for about 3 months,

Subject: new potting soil idea. any suggestions? Replies: 4
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Yeah it will work out good. I use cocotek its great stuff. I actually have used 100% cocotek in a superoots container and it works too. The only thing is you want to add some trace minerals and a little NPK in the mix.

I suggest pre-soaking the coir in a worm compost tea / diluted sea kelp mix, then adding some azomite to it.

I personally like adding in 3/2/1 coir/pine bark/*perlite* correction. However, I have high PH water which I try to offset, figs don't mind PH higher then 7 like some other plants.

Subject: I Have Extras Replies: 5
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Interested, I saw you were not shipping though. Let me know if you change your mind.

Subject: issues with container soil. Replies: 44
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Hydro stores sell the coir blocks for $10 for 5kg locally. Off ebay you can get it for $19 shipped.

Subject: Harvey's favorite 2 figs from 2012 Replies: 46
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Nice picture, HUGE leaves! The fruit description sounds very tasty. Is the eye small/closed?

Subject: issues with container soil. Replies: 44
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I was going to say use coir in replacement of peatmoss (this topic has already been brought up). I have been using 50% coir 50% pine bark mix with good results, I use special containers with this mix like superoots or fabric though. I have not tried the CHC yet, but if its anything like the great results of coir I will be using them soon.

Subject: Extreme Protection from Critters for In-Ground Figs Replies: 10
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Congrats on your new home and property! BTW, I have some pads which will be available to send out next week. If you still want them tell me, I just need shipping covered or you can pick them up as well.

I can give 1 pad of each of the following;

Opuntia sp. Jeronimo M.V.
Large orange fruit with orange interior. Excellent honeydew melon taste. Soft small seeds. Moderate production.

Opuntia sp. P.V. Spineless #1
Upright vigorous grower, growing near the ocean in SoCal. Fruit is Yellow/Red Medium/Large. Unfortunately, I was unable to taste any of the ripe fruit. The fruit is readily consumed by the local wild life, where as many other Opuntia sp. are left behind.

Opuntia sp: Torrance PCH#1
Large red fruit with red interior. Excellent sweet flavor with subtle watermelon taste. Soft small seeds that can be broken down by teeth. Low spreading growth habit. Fruit resistant to rotting due to moisture/humidity. Fruit holds on plant for months through the winter, while maintaining great eating qualities. Production moderate to low.

Subject: Saving money and space for pots and soil Replies: 12
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Big cost savings can be made by buying container mix components in bulk. I am not sure what is available in Israel. But I would look for sources of pine bark mulch, free compost, and sand. Would be nice to find a source of Coco Coir for a good price as well.

Subject: Figs & Blueberries Replies: 13
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Nice pictures! Any nickle size Blueberries? I have a 'Jewel'. Blueberry that is absolutely loaded with developing berries. Update on the fig taste report ;)

Subject: my first potting mix with coir Replies: 5
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Coco coir is great mix for container plants. I use it in place of peat moss on all my plants. I would get a 5kg block and .5 cu ft. of perlite mix. Soak the coir with worm casting water, then mix with perlite.

Subject: 5 gallon buckets Replies: 25
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(2) 5 gals stacked inside works out very well. I was able to get 12 medium/small persimmons in a 5 gal stacked SWC. Should work well for figs that are not to big.

Subject: potting mix for self watering container (SWC)?? Replies: 20
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Don't use spaghnum peat moss it breaks down way to fast into a sludge. Try 60% pine bark 40% coco coir. With a dash of lime and azomite, then add in slow realize fertilizer. Or good fertilizer schedule.

Subject: My First Almost Ripe Fig of 2013 Replies: 22
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The in ground nematodes are bad? I noticed you say everything looks great because its grown in containers.

Subject: Some thoughts/info on potting mixes Replies: 34
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I have a Black Persian, Morus nigra. I was never able to taste the limited fruit it started to produce last year. It must be good because it all disappeared before it even got close to ripe. Unfortunately, I am going to sell the tree soon because its to vigorous for the limited amount of space I have.

Subject: OT Anyone growing lychee or starfruit in the Northeast Replies: 6
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BTW, I may have lychee trees I would be willing to trade in place for a rooted fig tree/cutting or two. I am looking for humid/rain tolerant figs for the South East (FL).

Subject: PARADISO FIG? Replies: 17
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It sounds like Paradiso would not do well in FL, because of humidity and rain (would this be the case?).

Subject: OT Anyone growing lychee or starfruit in the Northeast Replies: 6
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You can buy airlayer lychees from ebay, when they are in season usually in the mid to late spring. There are a couple good ebay sellers of airlayer lychee trees.


I am in zone 10a, in Orange County, CA. So I guess you can say its a frost free great grow zone. However, I see no reason any of you guys could not grow and fruit this in a sunny south facing window/indoor location. As you can see, I was able to make it flower nicely in a 18 gal tote container. Also the humidity is less then optimal most of the year in my location (20-40% humidity on average day and night).

Subject: Which soil would you use for pots? Pics to choose from... Replies: 18
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I would go with the leaf mulch if you were to buy anything from the landscape store. Otherwise I would highly recommend using a pine bark mulch, coco coir, and perlite mix.

Subject: OT Anyone growing lychee or starfruit in the Northeast Replies: 6
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I grow a few lychees, I have one that is excellent in a SWC. The rest are grown in standard plastic containers for now, and seem to be growing slower and not as healthy looking. As for those who grow in the NE, I know one person who posts over in tropicalfruitforum. He grows using grow lights in New York, and has gotten the lychees to fruit.

Here is my healthiest tree flowering in an 18 gal tote SWC;

'Mauritius' Lychee

So yes they can be grown and fruit in containers :). I am hoping to get about a dozen or so full sized lychees this year (first year it has fruited).

Subject: Some thoughts/info on potting mixes Replies: 34
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I use a high content coco coir mix, since it retains water nicely and has good aeration. Coco coir with perlite 70%/30% works good. I water this mix with some low dose sea kelp powder with water, also compost tea, with a dash of azomite.

Subject: Some thoughts/info on potting mixes Replies: 34
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Been experimenting with container soil mixes for about 6 years now. The best ingredients I have found, coco coir, pine bark, perlite, sand, and broken down natural charcoal. The container type makes a big difference with what mix I intend to use.

If I am using a superoots/air prune container. I will use something close to 40% coco coir 40% pine bark 10% perlite 10% broken natural mesquite charcoal. This mix retains nice amount of water and allows ample aeration in a superoots. This mix can go without the perlite and mesquite and still perform well, however I like to add them in for a little more aeration and the surface areas which interact with microbes (especially the charcoal).

If I am using an SWC container. I will have used a variety of mixes with great results. Because the container has wick action, you can get away with high sand mixes with no perlite. I have gotten good results with 80% sand 20% pinebark. This is a simple cheap mix that will work well in an SWC. I also have found 60% pine bark, 20% coco coir, 20% perlite works as well.

For fabric containers I use a 60% Coco Coir, 30% pine bark, 10% perlite or mesquite.

Its very hard to make a bad container mix out of coco coir and pine bark. As long as none of these ingredients exceed 70% of the mix. I say forget about peat its an inferior product, unless you have the more expensive natural form bog peat moss. The acidic component of the pine bark covers whatever peat does for the PH. The coco coir is superior to peat in every way (besides the more neutral PH).

Subject: moved 11 today. Replies: 23
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Has anyone tried air layering the kiwis?

Subject: Figs starting to leaf out :). Replies: 5
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They just need some sun and a little warmth. If the root zone is around the 60s or so, with some sun shining it should be enough to root in about a month or so.

Subject: grafting a fig cutting into a Mulberry bush Replies: 20
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1 year old rooted 'Shangri La' Mulberry producing fruit already.

Subject: Figs starting to leaf out :). Replies: 5
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Nice! Maybe another week or two for leaves to start to emerge? Btw, you can see the Dragon Fruit in the background, gives you an idea how its growth habit is. I really need to make a nice mobile trellis for it.

Subject: Figs starting to leaf out :). Replies: 5
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Vista, leaves emerging at the tips. Looks like breba as well :), I should of taken an up close picture.


I have a bunch of Paradiso and Marseilles vs black fig rooted cuttings now leafing out as well. Did not take pictures of them yet.

Subject: Sucker Replies: 16
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'Physical Graffiti', 'Purple Haze', and 'American Beauty' all get high marks and have tasty red/purple fruit that is self pollinating. As for the light issue, some varieties will actually burn outside in full California sun during the summer. Naturally they grow under the canopy of a mature tree climbing up to get dappled sunlight.

I would only think that the sun would be important during the mid spring to fall (fruit set). The DF flower and fruit  typically in August-September, so I don't see any problem with hauling it out in the spring to a mostly (maybe some dappled shade during the day) sunny area then hauling it back in after the fruit harvest in September.

Since all most of the plants energy is stored in the stems, once your plant gains enough stem mass you will have nice fruit harvest. Now the trickiest part would be making a container with a movable trellis attached. What I would suggest is making a tri beam framed redwood trellis about 6ft high then mounting the container onto the base with wheels attached on the bottom. Then wrap burlap around the wood, now you will have a thriving DF plant with aerial roots on the burlap. You could then use a spray bottle with some kelp powder/water mix and spray the burlap, stems, and aerial roots during the warmer nights.

I think the effort would be totally worth it. Having high quality organic dragon fruit, would be equal to about $6 a pound somewhere like Pittsburgh, PA. Having a couple of 1lb fruits would make this effort so worth it :).

Here is some pictures of Vietnamese Giant, from my friends vine in a 10 gal container. The fruit did not last more then a minute.

Subject: Sucker Replies: 16
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Well depends on the plant, some bullet prove plants are guava, mango, and dragon fruit. All these will grow well in containers are relatively drought tolerant and can hold up to low humidity or high humidity.

Now the temperature is the main issue with taking care of these plants. If you have to over winter them, you want to keep the temps over 32 degrees (I would say high 30s to be on the safe side). Also restrict the water during the over wintering (just make sure its damp).

Providing enough light to have photosynthesis continue is important as well, so a window with natural sunlight would be the best option. You can also use artificial lighting such as HPS or LED, this can get a little more pricey, but the HPS lights can also help with the heating.

There are different levels of how hard a tropical plant is. I recommend sticking to subtropical plants like the Mango, Loquat, Guava, Dragon Fruit, Cherimoya, etc. these are usually all cold hardy down to 28 degrees (which would be freeze death point). The tropicals like Acai palm, Jakfruit, Cashew, Papaya, etc. I have found to be a lot harder to keep alive and much more sensitive to soil and water.

As for pruning, root pruning and maintenance, I find that you can do this anytime during the prime growing season (they will usually bounce back). During the late spring, I like doing it in the shade during the afternoon on a moderately warm day. When the plants are actively flushing fertilize weekly with low to moderate amounts (if the tree responds well up the amount a little).

Subject: Took some pictures of the fig forest Replies: 21
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Who is interested in fig cuttings from these trees? Me and another fig4fun member are going to collect cuttings of the trees this weekend. Need to get an idea of who is interested. I was initially going to take about 20 cuttings from about 7-10 trees. Trees that have figs on it now will be skipped over (because I believe these would be carp figs).

Anyway was going to tag and ID the trees, and come back in the summer. Taste test on the selected fig trees would be taken. It would then be updated on this thread in the summer time. From what I have seen, most of these fig trees are large green type. These are all wild seed germinated fig trees, so a good tree can be out there.


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