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Subject: COLD WEATHER AND UNHEATED GARAGE OR SHED Replies: 22
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Is it Cattle  ? With all the methane they produce you could just light a fire under their butt .

Subject: COLD WEATHER AND UNHEATED GARAGE OR SHED Replies: 22
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Everybody's situation and comfort level is different so its good to post all the different possibilities out there and let people decide what is best for them . 
Some may need a simple setup for just a couple extreme weather days . Others may be looking for a more longterm solution with no muss and fuss like an electric heater with t-stat . 
Others may not feel comfortable with flammable liquids and a flame, but the cost savings are great for those that need a lot of heat .
Others may not want to spend much money on equipment and are looking for a quick cheap fix till they figure out things a little better.
So we should all share  our methods and everyone can pick what is best for them . And it also helps if we give cost specifics like Rich .

Thanks … John


Subject: COLD WEATHER AND UNHEATED GARAGE OR SHED Replies: 22
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Hey Jon ,

I find many people are afraid to use heaters thinking that the electricity  bill will go through the roof . Light bulbs and a lamp or two are always readily available for emergency last minute situations . I had an electric heater in my setup originally but have not needed it . 
I do agree though that if you really need that much heat its a better way to go . But not your only option .

John



Subject: Arctic blast coming - questions about space heater use Replies: 44
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Hi all ,
( I have posted the exact same info in a couple other threads , so sorry if you are reading it again . Hopefully it helps someone . )

For those that have an unheated garage or shed it might be helpful to run a cord to it and plug in 2 or 3 60 watt incandescent  light bulbs and see what happens . I use three  50 watt bulbs to heat my figloo (7x7x8 feet ). I have them hooked up to a thermostat that turns them on and off . it was -26 c (-17f) yesterday and no problem maintaining set temp of 36f. The walls have 2.5 inches of insulation so that definitely helps . But it can't hurt if you think you will lose plants and it wouldn't cost more than 1 or 2 dollars to run those bulbs all day long . My power rate is apx 25 cents a kilowatt hour including taxes and extra charges so at 4.32 kilowatt hours for running three 60 light bulbs 24 hours , that works out to $ 1.08 per day . Of course you could use more bulbs or higher wattage too.
That is the absolute maximum but in reality i spend 10 to 15 dollars a month to maintain 36f on the coldest 3 months .
A thermostat is not necessary , you can unplug when not needed or use less bulbs . The light does not affect the plants or wake them up .
You could also put all your trees in one part of your garage and create a box around it with plywood or cardboard or tarps or foam board and just heat that section instead of the whole garage.

heres a link about my setup . 

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/figloo-update-5040799?highlight=figloo

John

Subject: COLD WEATHER AND UNHEATED GARAGE OR SHED Replies: 22
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Hi all ,

For those that have an unheated garage or shed it might be helpful to run a cord to it and plug in 2 or 3 60 watt incandescent  light bulbs and see what happens . I use three  50 watt bulbs to heat my figloo . I have them hooked up to a thermostat that turns them on and off . it was -26 c yesterday and no problem maintaining set temp of 36f. The walls have 2.5 inches of insulation so that definitely helps . But it can't hurt if you think you will lose plants and it wouldn't cost more than 1 or 2 dollars to run those bulbs all day long . My rate is apx 25 cents a kilowatt hour including taxes and extra charges so at 4.32 kilowatt hours for running three 60 light bulbs 24 hours , that works out to $ 1.08 per day .
That is the absolute maximum but in reality i spend 10 to 15 dollars a month to maintain 36f on the coldest 3 months .
A thermostat is not necessary , you can unplug when not needed or use less bulbs . The light does not affect the plants or wake them up .

heres a link about my setup . 

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/figloo-update-5040799?highlight=figloo

John

Subject: Hey Canada New member Replies: 17
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Hey Joe ,

The first couple years I had absolutely no splitting issues . But in 2012 I did come across some figs souring when we had a lot of consistent rain during ripening season before the honey could completely close the eye . But it is an absolutely great tasting fig that will keep on ripening with full flavour while other figs stop ripening or taste bland in the colder part of the season . Its a big fig too and not dry or hollow but full of jammy rich fig flavour . It is still my favourite fig , and a guaranteed ripener starting in late august to early september ( mine are all in pots ) so timing in ground don't know .

Subject: Hey Canada New member Replies: 17
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Hey Joe ,

I agree there are plenty of great people on this site . And loads of info too .
There are also plenty of members in the southern Ontario region who are very generous 
and helpful with plants or cuttings of almost any variety out there . In fact I had one Canadian member send me 3 full grown plants
about 2 foot tall each and refused any payment for plant or shipping costs , so lots of great people out there .
I should have a small plant in the spring already rooted from last summer if you like .

Here is a link about Niagara Black .

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/niagara-black-air-layer-fruit-pics-5939196?highlight=niagara

John

Subject: Hey Canada New member Replies: 17
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Welcome Pino ,

Sounds like we've got a lot to learn from you , considering your experience .
If you are interested in Niagara Black let me know , i am in Toronto area .

John

Subject: Seeking Nordland Replies: 33
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Pete ,

Thanks for the comparison between NB and LDA . I don't have LDA and am looking for info from those out there that do .

John

Subject: Heating a green house Replies: 14
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Jose , i don't know how many watts your strip heaters are rated for . But if they pump out enough heat to keep the temp at 5C on a -20c day then they are high wattage . My 6x8 glass greenhouse would need a 1500 watt heater going full out to keep up at night or a cloudy day .
1500 watts at our electricity rates full out would be apx 8 dollars a day , thats 240 a month . No thanks for simply storing figs that don't need any sun while dormant . 
Your greenhouse is twice the size of mine , so even if your heaters are not going full out its a lot of expense . you are better off putting them in a shed or garage where there is less thermal loss .
You also didnt mention if you monitor the night time temps with a thermometer , it might get a lot colder than you think .
This is my setup :

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5040799

John

Subject: Heating a green house Replies: 14
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I agree with Hungryjack ,
Wait till it goes to -20 c , you will need two 1500 watt heaters at night time to keep it above 0 c . Very pricey .
In Canadian winter , fall and spring season extension is when I heat my greenhouse , otherwise too expensive for a hobby .

John

Subject: Seeking Nordland Replies: 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mnedelcu
Yes,Pete,drips honey....Niagara black is half in size,taste,sweetnesses.....everything....


Too much mis-information out there .
Nobody out there has a mature Niagara Black tree , other than myself .
Many cuttings and first year suckers were distributed last fall , so at best 1 year old trees.
Niagara black averages 55-60 grams . Its not half the size of Nordland unless Nordland is 120 grams , but from the photos it looks around 50 or less.
I have had very positive feedback from those skilled or lucky  enough to get fruit on first year plants .
As we all know it takes a while for a tree to reach maturity , so i can't imagine how the above conclusions were reached .
Also i see a lot of similarities between Nordland , Niagara Black , and Longue D'out . They may all be related or the same even . ( thanks to Leon for pointing it out )
You have yourself a great looking variety Marius  and I enjoy your pics , but its a bit premature to make such judgements .

John


Subject: Figloo update Replies: 31
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Hey Susan ,

I have not had any issues with mice or voles .

Subject: Figloo update Replies: 31
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Bump ,

Just to give people who are wondering about winter protection options something to consider .
A well insulated shed could do the same thing for potted plants .

John

Subject: Overwintering in a greenhouse. Replies: 11
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I have had a 6x8 glass greenhouse for the last couple years and find that at night the temp inside the greenhouse and outdoors is almost the same within a couple degrees . There is almost no insulation factor with the 1/8 inch glass . The cost to heat this thing would be ridiculous in the dead of winter ( zone 5-6) , so I only use it in spring and fall with a 1500 watt heater . I don't put anything in it when temps are -5c or colder , too costly . I store everything either in my garage , or Figloo with a couple light bulbs for heat .

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/figloo-update-5040799?highlight=figloo

Subject: Preto Replies: 25
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Awesome looking fig Nelson .
How is the plant as far as FMV ?

John

Subject: Bourjassote noire Replies: 20
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So Nelson , does it taste as good as it looks ?

John

Subject: Niagara in Florida Replies: 13
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Hey Frank ,

Got it to fruit in the first year , that's great .
I would not have recognized it if you didn't identify it .
Chivas also managed to get it to fruit in the first year .
And don't pick until it drips honey for atleast a couple days .

John

Subject: How climate can change a figs appearance Replies: 8
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Don't know if it's just me , but I can only see 1 pic

Subject: I Think its the Gophers Replies: 7
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Sorry about all the losses you're having Suzi . There's nothing more frustrating than all your efforts going to waste .
I get it because in the past just when the figs were getting ripe all the raccoons in the neighborhood would come by for a feast .
But your situation is worse because they are actually killing your trees .
I'm sure you'll figure out a solution .
Good luck .

John

Subject: 9-11-2001...Another Day That Will L:ive In Infamy Replies: 29
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I'm more concerned with the patriotic zealots .
They are the ones that allow their governments to interfere with other nation's sovereignty causing all the hatred .
Wake up .

John

Subject: Got Nailed By Bee - Fig Tree Sap Works. Replies: 27
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Damn yellow jacket wasps . I have had the same problem and put those little bags over the figs .

John

Subject: 9-11-2001...Another Day That Will L:ive In Infamy Replies: 29
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The problem with some people is that they are clueless to the reality of who truly controls governments these days .
Don't let the state manipulate you with your patriotism .
People have very little faith in their politicians and governments , but when it comes to foreign policy and the politicians start waving the flag all
of a sudden they can do no wrong .
Our governments protect corporate interest not the interests of the people .
As a citizen it is everyone's responsibility to be properly informed , put down the converter and pick up a book .
WillsC don't forget that Bin Laden worked for the US against the Russians in Afganistan , he was a good guy at one time .
Where do you think he got a lot of his training to be a terrorist ?
And you accuse others of being naive ?

John

Subject: 9-11-2001...Another Day That Will L:ive In Infamy Replies: 29
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To the contrary John , you didn't upset me . You put a smile on my face .
If everyone had your mindset , there would be far less manipulation of populations and pain in the world .

John

Subject: Got Nailed By Bee - Fig Tree Sap Works. Replies: 27
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Harvey , don't know if that statement is an urban legend or not so can't confirm or deny . However bees are a very important part of our ecology and are responsible for polination of many crops ,1/3 is the number I keep hearing . That's a lot anyway you look at it . If the fig wasp disappears then forget all those Smyrna type figs . No Calimyrna crops .
California produces about 75% of the worlds almond crops and bees are trucked in from all over the US to pollinate them . There is nothing else growing Other than almonds so bees have nothing to eat when almonds are not in bloom so not any around .
Anyway the way I see it we are connected with nature in more ways than we understand . And it's not a good sign when we see such an important part of it struggling to survive . You may have a different perspective .
Meghan , what happens if you're wrong , and plants don't adapt ?
Eli , I'll see what I can do .

John

Subject: Got Nailed By Bee - Fig Tree Sap Works. Replies: 27
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Thanks Navid ,

There's a documentary called queen of the sun on Netflix or free on youtube that's about the plight of bees today .
As people who respect nature's abundance through our common hobby , we should try to make ourselves aware of the destruction
of the very pollinators that help us survive .
After researching bees I was so intrigued that I purchased a hive of my own and they are only feet away from my figs and don't bother them at all . The average hive has anywhere from 30 000 to 60 000 bees , they are all sisters and their mom , the queen can lay from 1000 to 3000 eggs a day . You can easily harvest 100 pounds of honey in a good year from that 1 hive .

John

Subject: Got Nailed By Bee - Fig Tree Sap Works. Replies: 27
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Honeybees are in a real bad state . Last year beekeepers lost half their bees over the winter .
This is happening all over the world . Bees pollinate 1/3 of all our crops . In china there are areas where
there are no bees left and people collect pollen by hand and have to pollinate the fruit trees by hand .
Sadly the bees in the cities are healthier than bees in the countryside due to pesticide bans in many cities .
Einstein said that once the bees are gone , man will be gone in 4 years .

John

Subject: Got Nailed By Bee - Fig Tree Sap Works. Replies: 27
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C'mon, how's about a little privacy you peepin Martin .
Great photos though .

John

Subject: Got Nailed By Bee - Fig Tree Sap Works. Replies: 27
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Poor bees are getting a bad rap .
I have never seen bees attacking my figs , Its always been either yellow jacket wasps or bald faced hornets .

John

Subject: Optional method to pinching Replies: 11
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Has anyone tried this method ?

John

Subject: Fig tree lost all figs (about 25) in course of a week Replies: 9
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Have you checked roots for nematodes ?

John

Subject: ID please - 'tasty but fussy' has arrived with a bang Replies: 30
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The shape and size looks like colle de damme blanc . The inside is a bit dry but it could be picked early or climatic conditions .
But it would explain the great taste .

John

Subject: SOFÊNO PRETO Replies: 10
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Excellent looking fig Fransisco .
What is cachopeiro ?

John

Subject: Kadota Replies: 29
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The first year my Kadota fruited was a hot dry summer and the figs were excellent and full of flavor not just sweetness .
However since then summers have not been as dry or hot and the fruit is bland and if it's raining then they suck up water like a sponge .
So it's a great fig if it has great weather , otherwise don't bother .
Peters Honey is in the same family but more forgiving .
John

Subject: What is this insect? Replies: 5
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I wonder if they can spread FMV .

Subject: Figs getting rubbery and falling off Replies: 17
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Same problem here Grant , it must be weather related . Cold wet spring and summer . Better weather now but too little too late .

John

Subject: Nardi Black Breba Replies: 7
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Nice looking fig Nelson .
Good to see ya on the forum again .

John

Subject: Another seedling fig Replies: 15
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Awesome figs and photos Fransisco .
I didn't realize so many seedlings develop into such nice figs , this is the second one you have shown this year I believe .
There must be many thousands of distinct varieties .

John

Subject: German Red Fig Pic Replies: 5
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Never heard of this one, looks great Paul .
Breba I suspect ?

John

Subject: --- Black Fig ID , please Replies: 10
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Fig looks very much like black mission to me .
The leafs somewhat as well .

John

Subject: Fig of the Day - Desert King 08-19-2013 Replies: 19
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John

I agree with you . I have 4 of these trees that I rooted about 3 years ago . They all have weak growth with thin branches . For the first time I see 1 or 2 figs forming , but are main crop and have no chance of developing . But the last half of the summer they have started to put on some thicker more aggressive growth . It may just take a while for this variety to get going.
The cuttings were from my Uncles inground tree in Michigan and it's a monster .
Desert king is one of the best varieties in a short summer climate like mine . It is also a fantastic tasting fig , one of the best I've had , top 5 for sure . So don't give up on it yet .

John

Subject: Fig of the Day - Celeste 08-16-2013 Replies: 45
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Shah8 ,

Lsu Scott's black is I guess crossbred with Celsete and another variety ? Is it an improvement in some way ?

John

Subject: My Black Madeira aka The Slowest Tree EVER! Replies: 23
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James if you do punt it please take a video .
Sitting here picturing you kicking it and laughing to myself because I feel that way too sometimes .

John

Subject: Getting cuttings to Canada? Replies: 12
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Hey Damir ,

Where in Canada are you ?
There are a number of people with sizable collections in Canada that may be able to help you out .

John

Subject: The SPARROW FIG Replies: 35
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That is one beautiful fig Francisco .

John

Subject: Hardy Chicago in Seoul 2013 Replies: 13
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Great photos Lee .
Now that is a perfectly ripe fig .
I agree , I only picked a couple figs from a young HC last year , and found the flavor to be excellent ,

John

Subject: Paul's crops Replies: 12
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Looking good Paul ,
Excellent photos .
Z2 looks nice I just picked one that looks just like it today , an unknown . Very sweet with a slight tangy ness and nice fig flavor but tree not much of a producer .
What do you think of the excell ?
These are all breba I gather ?
Keep the pics coming .

john

Subject: What would Martin eat? Replies: 22
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Martin ,

Did I miss something ?

Subject: What would Martin eat? Replies: 22
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I think Martin will come out of the closet one day .
And he'll be holding a basket of green figs ;)

John

Subject: CÔTIA (white) Replies: 4
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Very nice looking fig .
Would it rate in the top ten ?

John

 

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