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Subject: Figs on new growth Replies: 2
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Hi all ,

I have a number of trees with new growth with around 6 leaves per stem . Would the beginnings of figs be clearly visible at this time or do they grow in later ?
Also should I start pinching after 6 leaves or so now , or is it too early ?

Thanks ..... John

Subject: Can I air layer main trunk ? Replies: 40
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Found a pic of exactly what I am talking about .



Link to website.

http://bonsaibark.com/2009/07/31/a-simple-air-layering-technique/

John

Subject: Today pixes of fig cultivars left without protection,last winter! Replies: 9
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Great pics Herman.
Do you prune back in fall or spring ?

John

Subject: Can I air layer main trunk ? Replies: 40
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 3,684
 
Thanks for your input guys.

I can't pass up this tree , I will try to post a photo when I get it . The price is very reasonable .
The owner was going to sell it last year due to the height issue but changed his mind last minute and couldn't part with it.
I might be able to fit it in with my in ground tree in the figloo.

John

Subject: Can I air layer main trunk ? Replies: 40
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Hey northeastnewbie ,

I have had to trim the tops of a couple others to fit in the garage but that would basically destroy this tree due to the fact that almost all the branching would be cut away .
But the garage does have a bedroom above it . I don't think my daughter would mind a 4 foot diameter hole in the floor . Hmmm.

John

Subject: Can I air layer main trunk ? Replies: 40
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Hi all ,

I have an opportunity to buy a 10 year old fig tree that is beautifully pruned and full of figs from a friend who doesn't know the variety but green outside and white inside and great taste.
My problem is that my garage is 7.5 feet tall and this tree is almost 9 feet . There is 1 main trunk about 2.5 to 3 inches diameter . And the branches start at the 5 foot level . It is in a 20 gallon pot .
I was wondering if I could air layer the main trunk with maybe a 10 - 15 gallon pot sitting on the main pot or a bit higher . This would decrease the height by apx 2 feet and not ruin the shape.
I did this with a 5 foot tree once but the trunk was only 3/4 inch . It worked great and gave me 2 trees.

Thanks .... John

Subject: Wter barrel with floating sunflowers seeds Replies: 20
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Thanks this is great info Drivewayfarmer .
Found this on garden web .

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fruit/msg081636542006.html?f3b2acd5ffd9ee331d2640d78089de4aFSl0I

Barrel pics 3/4 way through thread .

John

Subject: Helpful way to know when to water Replies: 5
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 874
 
When the soil is noticibly wet and the pot feels heavy ,the stick will come out clean and wet.
I use this dirt sticking to stick technique when the soil looks dry and pot is light .
I also touch the stick to the back of my hand to get an idea of the wetness of the stick.
It takes a bit of practice but as Fredfig said , this is another weapon in the arsenal.

John

Subject: Dr. Ken Mudge propagation video Replies: 1
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Great 10 minute video explaining propagation of cuttings.







John

Subject: Put the soft top on the Figloo Replies: 3
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Thanks Dan.
I am sure it will be worth it in the end . Its is very rewarding to see the tree with dozens and dozens of buds swelling and opening up after all that effort.
Hey Dennis ,
The floor of the greenhouse is 4 inches of gravel then some limestone  screening then 10 mill plastic with a 2 inch hole in the centre of the greenhouse for drainage . Then I put 2 inch foam board (specific for floors) and the pavers on top. The foam insulates the floor and the stone does not lose the heat it gains in the day to the ground.



John

Subject: Helpful way to know when to water Replies: 5
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Hi all,

 Thanks to all the info on this forum I have had very good success in rooting my cuttings and going to the u-line bags . Then I still have great success with about 90% survival rate to this point.
 My difficulty started once they went from bags to 3/4 gallon pots with 50/50 pearlite ,  promix hp . At this point I would have those situations where everything was fine for days or weeks then leaves would fall off and the plant would go downhill from there .
 My problem was overwatering due to the fact I could not tell how wet the root zone was. Even though the pot felt light and the top 2 inches of soil was powder dry, there was still lots of moisture in the root zone .
 What I now do is put a shishkabob stick in each pot and leave it there .The moisture on the stick and the amount of dirt that sticks to it are a great indicator of moisture level in the pot.




I hope this helps ...... John


Subject: Put the soft top on the Figloo Replies: 3
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 766
 


For those who have not seen my previous posts ..

I live in Toronto Canada , zone 5.
Last fall I moved an older established tree , planted it in my yard and built a structure around it. I heated it with 3 regular light bulbs hooked up to a thermostat set to 34 f .
 The tree never saw freezing temperatures this winter and has absolutely no damage at all .
 A couple weeks ago I took the top off the structure and bent a couple plastic pipes from one corner to the other and created a domed roof which I covered with plastic . The figloo is now a greenhouse and will give the tree a head start on the season .
With the plastic top it is still alot cheaper to heat than a regular greenhouse. with the regular top used for winter it is less than 1 tenth the cost of a regular greenhouse .
The first photo is with the hardtop. The second is the softop. The third is from the inside looking up at the roof. The last two photos are some of the figs I have in my regular greenhouse ( found used on kijiji for $400 ).


 

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Subject: Bad Winter Replies: 4
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 660
 
Did you have them in an unheated garage ?

John

Subject: Concerns about new member Replies: 56
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 3,434
 
This thread was started at 8:01 am and by 12:27 there have been 18 responses.
That's gotta be a record .
I think I would reconsider my approach if I were you ..
Bad etiquette cannot be lost in translation.

John.

P.s ( you're giving us Canucks a bad name )

Subject: Pomegranates Replies: 48
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I would also be interested in hardy pomegranate and if anyone knows of a Canadian source or can ship to Canada that would be great.
Can they be grown well in pots ?

Thanks .... John


Subject: Figloo update Replies: 31
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 3,759
 
Hey Andre

Check out this exchange between Tapla ( very knowledgable bonsai grower ) and someone asking for advice.
There is a difference between dormancy and quiescence . You want to make sure your plant is truly dormant then kept at proper temps during quiescence so as not to slowly drain it's energy reserves over the winter.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/fig/msg1015455027937.html

John

Subject: A little Humor & a lot of Humus Replies: 12
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I needed a good laugh today .

Thanks....

P.s .. Gotta wonder what's worse rats or tree rats ?

John


Subject: Figloo update Replies: 31
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As far as temps go you need to keep the container temp below 42f otherwise the fig tree will not go dormant. Some people store their containerized figs at below freezing temps the whole winter .
I know of one person in Toronto who has 8 x 4 x 3 foot high plywood boxes permanently placed in his yard with the bottom being bare ground. He ties up all his potted fig trees and lies them down on the ground and stacks one on top of the other till full to the top . He then covers with a piece of plywood and 2 inch foam all around and on top. Then covers it with a tarp. The only heat is geothermal and keeps the trees from going too far below freezing.
His name is Adriano . Check out his website at adrianosfigs.com . He is a master at his craft and has over 200 varieties in Canada of all places ,with no supplemental heat. He also has 3 or more large in ground trees of 20 years or so..
And as far as the soil freezing in the figloo it has not even frosted over. I have a temp probe sunk into the ground about 8 inches and it never went below 35f this whole winter...

John

Subject: successful Italian fig growers in Pennsylvania Replies: 37
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Hey Bass

Do you know when they uncover the trees , and whether it is a transitional process or just all at once ?

Thanks .... John

Subject: Figloo update Replies: 31
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 3,759
 
( responding to a post from another thread so as not to hijack it )

Hey Andre

I wish I knew the variety of the tree in the figloo but all I know is that an older Italian fellow went through the trouble of burying it and then building a plywood structure around it every year for the past 15 years.
It is a green fig is about all I know at this point . Hopefully someone will be able to identify it when I post some pics of the figs and leaves this summer.
There were literally hundreds of figs on it when I went to first see the tree but it was out of town and I never had a chance to try them when ripe.
I have not put any potted figs in there this year because it was a trial run to see how it would work. But I did put a couple potted rosemary plants in there and they are doing great . We have been using the rosemary all winter and it tastes perfect . And with any luck the rosemary will be the size of a small Christmas tree by the end of the summer and go back in again in the fall.

John

Subject: successful Italian fig growers in Pennsylvania Replies: 37
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Hey Andre

I don't want to hijack Bass's great thread so I will answer in the figloo thread linked below..


http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5040799&highlight=figloo

John

Subject: successful Italian fig growers in Pennsylvania Replies: 37
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Hey Andre check out these links ...

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4980845&highlight=figloo

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5040799&highlight=figloo





Subject: Show Off Your Rooting Setup Replies: 6
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Awesome photos James.

You guys in the south make me jealous.. Unfortunately there's no south in Canada :(

John......

Subject: successful Italian fig growers in Pennsylvania Replies: 37
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 3,890
 
Great pictures Bass.

Where there's a will there's a way .
And as for doing this in Chicago , if you use insulated foam board of 2 inches on the inside then cover with a tarp a 7 x 7 foot structure can be heated with 3 light bulbs controlled by a thermostat for about 10 to 15 dollars a month .
I just did it in Toronto this past year . Moisture control not cold is the main problem so gaps for ventilation are crucial.

John...

Subject: Show Off Your Rooting Setup Replies: 6
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 1,256
 

I have learned so much from all the helpful members of this site and am very grateful .

The one thing I noticed is that there are many ways to accomplish the same goal .
I have tried different setups and these photos show what works for me . 
 Hopefully others can post what works for them so we can learn from each other.

PHOTO 1 - on the left is a an incubator I had that I set for 75 f and put
               my rooting boxes in. ( not a necessary step if room warm enough)
             - on the right is a little fridge I have for storing cuttings.

PHOTO 2  -I use plastic shoe/storage boxes ($0.89 each at HD ) filled with   
              sphagnum moss for rooting . I can root upto 12 cuttings in each or
               just 1 cutting . Never any molding when you use sphag moss.

PHOTO 3  -I use a 2 shelf greenhouse that you can  get at any number of
              places for $30 or so . This is great for humidity  and space saving.
              -the floor level is used for rooting in sphagnum moss
              -the first shelf is for rooted cuttings in the bags that Jon
               recommends ( U-Line  ) with  60/40 pearlite to HP promix.
               I have a 60 watt light bulb on this level which is always on
               and keeps the greenhouse 5f warmer than the room so final temp
               is around 75f. The light is shielded to avoid light on cuttings .

               - Again everything in the shoe boxes.
               -The top shelf is for cuttings that have developed plenty of roots
               and can handle brighter light. at this stage I wrap the outside
               with black garbage bag material to shade the roots.
               -the pump spayer is used for watering and is very good for misting
               or  watering which I fill with rainwater or charcoal filtered water
                ( from fridge ) to remove chlorine.



PHOTO 4 -When the cuttings are ready to be potted up to containers I use
             .75 gallon pots with 50/50 pearlite to hp promix and place under
              4 foot flourescent lights for plants.

     
PHOTO 5 - I use a clear plastic cup with the bottom cut out which helps 
               keep the bag open and cutting straight when filling .

                      I hope this info can be of use to someone.... 
                                   thanks  .... John
   






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Subject: mold-help! Replies: 17
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I tried the baggie method with the paper towel and had found it to work but was always fighting with mold issues on certain cuttings.
I then tried the baggie with sphagnum moss instead of the towel ( thanks to Nas ) and have not had any problems at all with mold and rooting success is better.
It may be that if mold sets in from the rooting stage it can continue to be a problem afterwards ,so avoid it from the beginning .

John

Subject: Figloo update Replies: 31
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Today was the coldest so far this year at -24c in North York ( Toronto suberb ). That's -12f .
The temp in the figloo this morning was 33f with only three 50 watt light bulbs as a heat source.
I think that the bulbs are on almost all the time at these low temps. But I can't complain because it is still above freezing in there and that is with a 1/4 inch opening under the door and unsealed corner joints for air exchange.
So far so good .

Dennis - Thanks

Nas- I've never tried any of this before but read a post by Arctictropicals (the other forum sight )who
grows bananas in zone 4 and got a lot of info from his pics and posts.
Its amazing what a good insulator can do.
On the other hand I have a small 7 x 9 feet glass ( 3mm thick ) greenhouse and am
amazed at how poor an insulator glass is.

Noss-I wish I could take credit for the Rosemary plant Christmas tree shape but
It just turned out that way with no pruning at all.

Subject: ATTENTION CANADA Replies: 7
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Have any of the details been worked out yet ?

John

Subject: Figloo update Replies: 31
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 In November I moved a 15 year old fig tree and planted it in my back yard . I built a structure around it out of walk-in freezer panels , the kind you would find in any restaurant.
I posted about building it in November , and am now updating on it .
I live in Toronto Canada, and the temperatures have averaged around 20F .The coldest day so far was 3F.
The Figloo dimensions are apx. 7x7x8 feet. I have 2 possible heat sources and can change from one to the other with the flick of a switch. The first heat source is three 50 watt incadescant light bulbs . The second heat source is an electric heater with fan. The lights or heater are controlled by a digital thermostat set at 35F and keeps the temp between 34F and 36F . I keep the fan running on the heater (with the heat disabled ) continuously to keep the air circulating to avoid mold problems.
It is  Jan. 8 and up till now I have not needed to use the heater. The 3 light bulbs have easily heated the structure and they are switched on and off by the thermostat as needed . I would say they are on less than 50 % of the time on an average day.
 The fan uses 22 watts and 150 watts total for the bulbs. At 10 cents a kw hour and all the extra fees and taxes I aproximate  40 cents a day max usage. I could easily put a few potted trees in there as well to free up my garage .
The ground of the structure to my surprise has not frozen at all and I have a temp probe 8 inches into the ground and it reads 37F.
I also have a couple rosemary plants in there as well and they are also doing very well.

John

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Subject: The Figloo Replies: 11
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Hey Grant

The smaller trees are a different variety. One is green and one is black . The Lady that I got them from said that the black were her favorite . She said the large tree had so many figs she did not know what to do with them all so she posted an ad and was surprised to find that word got around to high end restaurants and chefs were her main buyers.

John

Subject: The Figloo Replies: 11
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Hey Grant ,
This may sound crazy , but I didnt get a chance to try the figs. All I know is that they are green and the new owner of the house says they taste great.
I got a lot of advice on how to transplant the tree from Adrianno at Adrianos Figs . He figured that it must be good if the old italian owner of the house was willing to bury it every year . I also dug out 2 other smaller trees from the same property ( 8 feet tall ) and potted them . One of the smaller trees is a black fig.To me this is all a sort of experiment and if it all works out in the end I will have learned a lot and have a great fig tree .

Hey Bob ,
Thanks for Your kind words. Again I don't know what variety or taste but it sure seems like you know your figs..

I have included pics of the 3 trees and a photo of the figs one of the smaller trees (black). I also have a photo of the structure that the owner used to cover the trees after bending them down and covering . Its hard to tell but the height of the structure is apx 4 feet or so. And as you can see grant the trees were in a wide open area .

John

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Subject: The Figloo Replies: 11
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Thanks for the input guys

Hey Nas I am also in Toronto . I am thinking to keep the temp a bit above 0 C because I just transplanted the tree about 3 weeks ago and the root system hasnt had time to re-establish itself . Do roots still grow when the tree is dormant ??
Bass I have seen your video on wrapping trees and am glad someone posted a step by step with pictures . I may need it next year for a smaller tree I have. The mice issue is on my mind and I will definitely use the mothball advice , thanks.


Subject: Wireless thermometer with high / low records daily Replies: 5
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 2,936
 
Great input guys .

I definitely like the the multiple sensors option . I bought the cheaper single sensor unit thinking, how reliable can these units be ?
But I have been using it for a couple months now first in my small greenhouse and now in the fig shed and I find it to work fine. Next year I will have to upgrade to the multi sensor like Dennis & Pitangadiego .
The humidity feature sounds intersesting but from my experience with humidity sensors ( I service & calibrate temperature and humidity test chambers ) they are not very accurate. Thier accuracy tends to drift over time even on the expensive units. However temperature sensors usually are very reliable. Now the wireless part well we will see.

 John

Subject: The Figloo Replies: 11
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 1,855
 
Hi ,

On October 30 I transplanted an older fig tree ( 15 years or so ). The home was recently sold and the new owners were not interested in figs.
Three of us managed to dig out the tree with apx a 30-36 inch root ball .
I have about 10 other figs in pots which I store in a heated shed. So I figured if I plant this tree in the ground why not just build a shed around it.
So being in the commercial refridgeration trade I was able to get some walk in freezer panels and erected a small shed with sloped roof around the tree , sitting on a 4x4 cedar base. You could probably find such panels on Kijiji.
The panels are 40 inches wide upto 8 feet tall 2.5 inches thick and filled with polyeurethane foam at an R value of 7 per inch.

 I am planning to heat the shed to around 35f .
 Should I mulch around the base of the tree and with what ?
 I am concerned about mold . Any ideas about how to avoid mold issues ?
 Should I put plastic on the ground ?
             Any input would be greatly appreciated .

John

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Subject: Wireless thermometer with high / low records daily Replies: 5
Posted By: Johnparav Views: 2,936
 
HI,

I recently built a shed for my fig tree and found a great thermometer that is wireless ( upto 150 feet )  with which to monitor the daily temp from the comfort of my kitchen.
This device is only $30 in Canada so likely cheaper in the US and readily available at Walmart .
It records the high & low temps of each day and keeps a log for 5 years. It also gives you an indoor temp reading of the location in which the display is located.
And it is very accurate . I have been comparing its readings with a calibrated temperature sensor I use for work and they are within 1 degree F.
You could put the transmitter onto your tree and wrap it if you like .
I originally heard of this device on a northern gardening forum .

.........John



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