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Subject: Col De Dame Blanc Replies: 110
Posted By: Chivas Views: 11,127
I put an air layer in the ground of col de dam blanc and for 1 month it didn't grow, in pot it's a weed in the hoophouse.  Any tree I put into the hoophouse that is getting 40 degrees celcius, grows like they is no tomorrow.  That being said the noir I planted in ground is grow just as fast if not faster than the one in pot in the hoophouse, and the one in ground received minimal fertilizer and not much water other than rain, but the leaves are dark and stem is thick and oval indicating very strong vegetative growth which to me, means it has a very strong root system supporting it.  it is getting close to fall but maybe some bone meal or other phosphorus source used sparingly may help encourage some strong roots for the coming season.  Just a thought.

Subject: Late ripeners Replies: 14
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My Colar Brebas are just starting to swell now, if we had more heat, I think 2 weeks ago they would start to swell.  The bad thing is, just as it started to swell we are getting a lot of rain, it should dry up for when they are ripening but we will see.  Main crops, should be coming in 2-3 weeks I am hoping.

Subject: Late ripeners Replies: 14
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Your dark figs always have such a beautiful colour skin, they are fantastic.

Subject: brown spots Replies: 16
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Sometimes rubbing from leaves when its windy can cause brown markings, I have a lot with this on some figs this year.  Some trees are exuding white latex as they are growing along the stem near the growing point.  There weren't damaged, they were just growing so fast that they were leaking latex from rapid growing and most likely root pressure.  This is what my thought is on it but I could be wrong.  If I am right it could be possible that your figs are growing at a rapid rate and then get brushed by something causing this, but I will not say for sure this is what is happening.

Subject: Fig Cuttings from Israel Replies: 17
Posted By: Chivas Views: 831
If you can get all the paper work required for your state you can do it, but then you must undergo a quarantine period.  

The seller also has this in their listing:

It's the buyer responsibility to know their country customs and laws.

If you find out what you need for paperwork and the seller is willing to do these for you then you're ok, but the quarantine period is a long one and not guaranteed. 

Subject: This is my latest challenge. Replies: 45
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For within California, there is Jon (owner of this site) and Richard Watts.  I have not bought cuttings from them so I cannot personally attest to their quality; however, I hear really good things about them.  Just in case you guys didn't know already, it might help avoid problems of interstate deliveries and problems with paper work etc.

Subject: brown spots Replies: 16
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,635

Do they look like this?

Subject: Col De Dame Blanc Replies: 110
Posted By: Chivas Views: 11,127
I do not have the one from Ucd, however they look like the leaves on my col de dama blanc from Baud.

Subject: Noire de Barbentane 2014 Replies: 18
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,607
NdB is supposed to also be more resistant to humidity and rain than VS.  Great looking figs, hope they only get better for you and thank you very much for showing.

Subject: Let's get the love flowing again and win a tree! Replies: 49
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,169
Bordissot noire or blanc are my guesses.

Subject: How much droop is right? Replies: 20
Posted By: Chivas Views: 601
If you are getting forecast for rain you should also pick it as close to the time before the rain as you can, I only mention this as we are supposed to be getting storms this way tomorrow, not sure in they will hit kentucky as well but just food for thought.

Subject: Parasite Replies: 12
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If it is able to attach itself to the vascular system of them plant, it will weaken the immune system, I would take it off, it is an annual but will set seeds and grow again next year.  It is from the nightsahde family so I would suggest gloves and long sleeves while removing it.

Subject: Inchário Branco Replies: 19
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4 or 8 lbs is tiny jackfruit.  I was in asia and we only bought a quarter or less of one which was about 8 lbs on it own, they told me the big ones get to 20 kilos but they may be pulling my leg.  The aroma is more intense when cut open, it has a fragrant, floral smell and taste, when fresh it's flesh is crisp, sweet and juicy.  Not sure if I like it better than chilled soursop or not but fresh fruit of any kind is hard to beat.

Subject: Inchário Branco Replies: 19
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Only thing that smells better than mangoes is jackfruit, but you have to work quick because all the flies come as soon as you cut it open.

Subject: brix meter help Replies: 74
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,924
Steve you are growing pure candy, I am glad you are posting on this subject as I have wondered about it but couldn't be bothered to try it.  Hearing that you are expecting 48 brix is quiet impressive as I imagine if you are getting high brix on your fruits and not just figs means to me you are coaxing out a lot of flavours as well, the reason for my thinking on this is you are putting a lot of work into maximizing your fruit development and ripening so you are not just getting sugars but also all the other compounds into higher levels.  This brings me to ask, are you willing to share your secrets, I would really like to learn what I can do to better maximize things on my fruits and figs.

Subject: Message to Jon and my friends (update post #$49) Replies: 160
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Subject: OT: Flea beetles Replies: 9
Posted By: Chivas Views: 347
Montgomery garden spray is a good spinosad product.  You can try kaolin clay products as well.  They love eggplant though, I had that issue even with mature plants.

Subject: Figo de Quarteira Replies: 11
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I love when you post photos of this one, she is a gorgeous fig and I hope that more and more people in your country plant more of her, she looks like an absolute gem.

Subject: My First Drop of Honey Replies: 18
Posted By: Chivas Views: 820
If you can find it, Niagara Black has an insane ammount of honey that drips before it's ready, it just keeps dripping and dripping.  Good lookings figs you guys have.

Subject: brix meter help Replies: 74
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,924
Lampo that is the type of brix metre I have used, never been a problem as described.  Sorry I wasn't aware of another type so my fault for not stating what type I have used.

Steve, that is quiet impressive to get 18 brix on tomatoes, that is an excellent accomplishment to achieve and I do believe that it is not easy to achieve.  By the way your fruit and figs look delicious, thank you for sharing your results and pictures of them as well, can't wait to get some properly ripe fruit here instead of green fruit from california.

Subject: brix meter help Replies: 74
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,924
12-15 brix is high for a tomatoe, especially considering it is greenhouse grown not field, these are values I have personally measured, what do you consider a good brix level for tomatoes?

Subject: brix meter help Replies: 74
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,924
Red cherry tomatoe, have grown a yellow grape that was 16-18 though not consistantly.  Beefstake tend to be 4-6.

Subject: brix meter help Replies: 74
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,924
I have seen 15 brix on a cherry tomatoe.  Never had solids left on it, it just gets the juice on it.

Subject: Dark Portugal, goat cheese, bacon, and a lesson on what not to do! Replies: 16
Posted By: Chivas Views: 531
I would use Jamon instead of bacon, very tasty, not crispy but always good.

Subject: brix meter help Replies: 74
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,924
Whenever I use a brix meter I just rub the cut fruit over the end, works really well with tomatoes.

Subject: Breba ripening info Replies: 15
Posted By: Chivas Views: 569
Baud has also stated in some years, when conditions are favorable, col de dama's maybe produce some brebas which often fall off.  

Subject: Black Madeira 8-6-14 Replies: 14
Posted By: Chivas Views: 570
Elin, I imagine in your zone it would be very productive as it requires more heat units than most.  My tree is now in it's 4th year in pot, will get roughly 75-100 figs from it, it is in 30 gallon and needs to be repotted so it got stunted this year so far but I believe it will get more productive for me as time goes on.

Subject: Auction to benefit the Foundation? Replies: 130
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Looks like great progress so far, I miss having access to jointers and planers, so much work you can get done with them.  If you include shipping I will bid hahah.

Subject: Tree survival in the coldest winter in my area Replies: 16
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Do you have other col de dama figs?  I am wondering if they split and sour like the grise did.

Subject: Clone your cuttings & never see gnats! Replies: 405
Posted By: Chivas Views: 9,910
Scott he is using neoprene inserts which are like a collar around the cutting, he also cuts the bottom off the bottom of the net pot so he doesn't have to pull roots out of the net pot.  Makes the whole thing reusable (I would wash in peroxide between cuttings though) and make the overall cost much cheaper in the long run.

Subject: Pot grown taste Vs In-ground Ground Replies: 11
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Usually my in ground trees produce slightly smaller figs than the ones in pots.  RdB for example has given me the same size but that is only 1 year to compare, although this year it looks like the same result.  Dalmatie looks like it gives me bigger in ground than in pots, Niagara black will be slightly less than in pots.  Water is definitely a factor for size for some varieties, in france they have shown in well irrigated orchards col de dama will gain considerable size compared to orchards that are less irrigated or not irrigated at all.  This may not apply to all varieties though and I do not know which would affect it more or not but I am sure that the more you water in ground the larger the size.  In the Okanagan valley of Canada, they irrigate the sweet cherries but in Ontario they don't irrigate the same amount, the Okanagan needs more water because of the climate and rainfall but the Okanagan gets a much larger size.

Another thing that can impact size is the pruning of a tree, a tree that has too many fruits or flowers will also give small fruits/flowers due to resources.  

Fertilizer is another big one as Ascpete is saying, without proper nutrition, size and flavour will be compromised.  Potassium helps improve quality and flavour in fruits as well as making sure the plant can transpire/respire properly and calcium is what is needed for proper cell development in the cell walls.  If growing in a container you don't have adequate ammounts of these, you will run into problems, potassium and calcium compete and too much of one can lock the other out, although calcium tends to be harder for the plant to take up so in my opinion, erring on the safe side extra calcium would not hurt as much as too much potassium since potassium is more readily absorbed by a plant and in excess it can lock out calcium.  

Climate and soil will also produce varying results, poor rocky soils produce better grapes than rich fertile soils, sandy soils produce better trees in citrus with poorer quality fruits.  

For me, in ground trees produce better tasting figs, but I still get very tasty figs from the ones in pots, I have not put all the trees I have in pots in ground so I really cannot make an accurate statement to say they will always be better in ground, but so far it has proven true for me.  I attribute this to several factors, after the first year I don't water except for the spring for in ground trees to get the moving, unless there is a good amount of rain, I don't add as much fertilizer, but rather mix the hole with pre plant fertilizer and sparingly add fertilizer to in ground trees.  I have a sandy loam soil so it is not overly rich but it is no where near poor either and has excellent drainage.  The las is  my in ground trees tend to be planted at an older age so this also may be a factor in the taste as the tree is more mature.

My opinion may change this year as I changed my fertilizer and watering programme, I water less this year and build up the roots more with fiborous roots rather than watering all the time and having more water roots (I use a heavy soil mix).  I think this will produce a better result than I have had before so this year I may end up with better, the same or worse results than in ground, but I believe that what I have changed for my situation, will produce better results than what I have had before and will find out soon.

So many factors in crop management can make results vary from area to area as much as climate does, although Paully has a great advantage to have a climate to grow in ground larger trees with much less effort than I do so I believe this makes much better figs for him than for me.

Subject: Zidi - A fig to remember Replies: 59
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That looks gorgeous and the description is sounding so tantalizing I also must figure out a way to collect pollen so I can pollinate figs manually and improve my common figs but add gems like this.

If memory serves me correctly, this fig originally comes from north africa, possibly Tunisia if I am remembering correctly, which I may not be.

Subject: Semi-Pollinated Figs (Pics!) Replies: 6
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Do you have any caprifigs around?  You could improve your pollination with caprifigs grown near by or stringing them up in branches of the tree if they have wasps inside.

Subject: Inchario Preto - Our best fig ! Replies: 32
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,490
Mike you may look into freezing the pollen as well if you plant to hand pollinate, so that you can be ready anytime the figs are ready then you wouldn't have to worry about the ripening times of the caprifigs.  Just a thought as I know other vegetables and flowers, they store pollen in the freezer for use at later dates.

Subject: Rmali leaf pictures needed Replies: 8
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Looks like you're making her healthy again JD, great job on your part.

Subject: Inchario Preto - Our best fig ! Replies: 32
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,490
I would love to see this one in your orchard Harvey, I bet you could have several massive trees of this if you can find the right Portuguese fig lover in California.

Subject: white greek (rare) tsapelosiko Replies: 18
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,253
Looks like a lot of syrup inside, great looking fig.

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux 2014 Replies: 18
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,432
JDSfrance, I have RdB in ground, it died back to ground but its about 3.5 feet tall with about 9 branches that I have left for now, many others were pruned off.  I may get about a dozen figs off it come october too yet, we will see.  I would not worry so much about the size but just do a heavy pruning off established trunks for you as the re growth is very strong then around this time of year you can prune back the main branches and keep the small ones off with lots of smaller branches to produce figs for you, this is my plan for my zone and I believe it will be a good one.  

Subject: What causes this? Replies: 25
Posted By: Chivas Views: 957
Need more calicum

Subject: --- LSU Purple and others (PIX) Replies: 11
Posted By: Chivas Views: 650
Panachee should do well in zone 7 depending on how cool it is, it can be sensitive to lots of rain causing splits though.  Great for making jam and drying too.

Subject: Fig cuttings from baud France Replies: 2
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It is not the right season for cuttings from Baud, you would need to wait until later winter/spring.

Subject: --- PIX: Pastiliere main Replies: 31
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,670
This is may be the reason Greenfig, I am not sure but I would like to find out, it looks like a great fig to have.

Subject: Ant Attack! Replies: 72
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,526
Diatomaceious earth works well, if it gets wet you need to re apply, also re apply every 3-5 days when you see activity of ants, I killed a colony of carpenter ants  like this very easily in a couple of weeks.  I just have to figure out how to get them out of my pots.

Subject: Good Figs with Lost Labels 2014 Replies: 19
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MVSB, Nero are the two that I think of when seeing that fig, any leaf pictures?  

Subject: --- PIX: Pastiliere main Replies: 31
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,670
Pastilliere I have heard drops figs when it is young and as it matures it drops less, although Martin destroyed his due to the fact it kept dropping it's figs.  When I get this variety, I will plant it in ground and see how well it does, it is supposed to be resistant to cold so with proper winter protection I am hoping I can avoid some of the dropping issue by having it in ground.

Subject: Prioritizing My Figs Replies: 21
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Calimyrna, Violette de Bordeaux and Kadota would be my picks for your zone based on what I have heard, Calimyrna seems like it would be a great fig if properly ripe, I have been lucky enough to try a couple about 85% ripe from california and they were excellent, the extra 15% would put them over the top I imagine.

Subject: Have some figs:)... Replies: 37
Posted By: Chivas Views: 2,112
The Persian fig looks great, can't wait to see how it does around the rest of your country.

Subject: Large Cuttings= better rooting? Replies: 10
Posted By: Chivas Views: 568

In the cone of juvenility, roots are better produced from these suckers generally speaking, it just ups the advantage of success.  I try to take cuttings from this area if I can but sometimes I just take from the ends of branches or entire upper branches, they seem to root just fine, but thought I would throw it out there.

Subject: Do You Sun Dry Figs? How? Replies: 18
Posted By: Chivas Views: 839
If you have the right sun strength it will work for sure, all that is needed is the intensity and duration with lower humidity, higher humidity would work too but you need constant air movement so mold and fungus don't take hold.  In turkey they put apricots on top of tin roofs to sun dry them (I believe they use other methods as well like racks etc).  I know of a cherry farmer who uses his greenhouse with supplemental heat to sun dry cherries, the heat is for at night when it gets too cold.

Subject: How to get Seeds from Turkey? Replies: 12
Posted By: Chivas Views: 612
If you can find dried figs from turkey locally of the varieties you would like, you could try growing seeds from those figs as well, would make importing a whole lot easier since they are already in the country, I have done it with figs from California before, I just neglected those trees though so I don't know if I would have gotten a common fig out of the 4 I had kept or not.


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