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Subject: 2 varieties in one 30 gal. pot? Replies: 9
Posted By: Chivas Views: 484
 
Some people Pleach fruits or flowers which involves twisting or braiding the plants together.  It is possible and you can do it, but as Phil says if you mis pair them and have a tree growing faster than the other, it would be out of balance, if you do it, I would pair varieties with similar vigour in the same pot.  Another option would be to have one you believe to be a good rootstock and graft desired varieties onto it, then you could keep for a few years the varities you grafted in smaller pots with root pruning until you know that they are compatible with the rootstock, may help even out any vigour issues as well since they should gain some vigour from the rootstock but you would still need to make sure not to put a slow grower on with a fast grower in my opinion.

Subject: Unknown Italian (oblong), VDB & Panache pics Replies: 13
Posted By: Chivas Views: 440
 
Panachee usually ripens in september for me, first year it was end of september second year start of september, this year it will likely be mid to end of september.

Subject: pollination Replies: 7
Posted By: Chivas Views: 586
 
I have heard that the patlican figs are parthenocarpic that is not from personal experience though I am go out on a limb and assume they.  I would trust the seller until proven wrong.

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux 2014 Replies: 18
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,432
 
I have 2 in ground, the one from Baud is doing better than the one from dany, but I just planted the one from dany in ground this year and it will have about 50 figs, bauds I may get half a dozen as it diebacked when I wrapped it wrong last winter.

Subject: fig problem Replies: 26
Posted By: Chivas Views: 2,165
 
I get black marks on figs when they are close to leaves, the rubbing from leaves in the wind etc causes this as well.  The sap swelling is either as Herman says from infected fifs leaking out their pores or as someone else said, overwatering and creating root pressure that forces sap to come out in my opinion.

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux 2014 Replies: 18
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,432
 
JD I bet if you put it in the ground in a couple years you will have more than you know what to do with it, Baud says it makes great dried figs too.  

This one looks great, I have another month to wait before I taste mine this year, but hoping they taste better than just sweet this year.

Subject: Born in the wild - a black Seedling (LTK) Replies: 15
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,069
 
That looks like caramel inside, very tasty!  Thanks for sharing with us this gem.

Subject: Bird deterrants Replies: 23
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,063
 
Dogs running around seem to help as well, I was gone for a few days on year while strawberries were ripening, they are behind a fence that the dogs can't get into, with dogs around I would only lose a couple, without dogs they were all gone.  Another idea is so put out cat food around the orchard and have cats roam around to keep the birds out, maybe make some sheltered areas so that the cats stick around when it's outside, I don't like cats myself but for mice, rats and birds they seem to work well as protection.

Subject: Fertilizers. Opinions....i'll start with my reasons. Replies: 13
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,175
 
Potassium encourages more flowers/fruits/quality and helps harden off growth.  I fertilizer my in ground trees twice this year with some blood meal, bone meal and potassium sulfate, not much, about half a cup each tree per time and then fish fertilizer, about half a litre.  Next year I don't think the in grounds need much fertilizer but I know I will for sure put manure at the start of the season.

Subject: Greenhouse help Replies: 39
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,357
 
twin wall to quad wall poly carbonate is very good material, won't break as easily but costs a fortune, will cut down on heating though.

Subject: RDB STOLEN Replies: 30
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,227
 
Grow them big and strong, put in 30 gallon pots, a lot of work to steal a heavy 30 gallon pot, very noticeable too.

Subject: VIOLETA aka FIGO PRETO aka BLACK MADEIRA Replies: 39
Posted By: Chivas Views: 3,321
 
The Black Madeira I have, dries very well, from UCD, the only problem was, it has so much syrup that it would leak in the dehydrator, but the dried product as very very tasty.

Subject: Pecan Fig Chocolate Pie Replies: 8
Posted By: Chivas Views: 374
 
pecan pie is one of my favorites, never thought to add figs, will have to try later on.

Subject: A short update on my container family Replies: 25
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,292
 
Mouthful of wasps wouldn't be bad, much better food source the figs are becoming, extra protein.  

Subject: Fruit Dropping Replies: 45
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,007
 
What varieties are dropping the figs?  I am just curious what they are, since you have had figs from them in the past I doubt the variety is the issue but perhaps as mentioned before, there may be a climate issue during the season so far that fluctuations have caused, although boron is less available at those pH's you have, I don't know if it can cause figs to drop like in tomatoes (tomatoes with insufficient boron will have fruit fall) and since you have said you switched to all organic, maybe your fertilizer doesn't have enough boron?  Again I don't know if boron can cause fig fall but I am familiar with tomatoes so that is where the idea came from.



Subject: First time nero 600m Replies: 9
Posted By: Chivas Views: 493
 
Looks great, hoping that you get many more.

Subject: moscatel Replies: 5
Posted By: Chivas Views: 482
 
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/moscatel-preto-5456604?highlight=moscatel&pid=1269890034#post1269890034

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/moscatel-preto-fig-6524979?highlight=moscatel&pid=1279528207#post1279528207

Subject: Crushed by USPS Replies: 62
Posted By: Chivas Views: 2,013
 
Box in a box is very effective.

Filling the void in the box with packing material like peanuts helps prevents the crushing you experienced.

Also choice of box,  some of the prio mail boxes are of a thinner gauge cardboard
and do not stand up to the abuse as well.
For plants in smaller diameter containers, 
I would choose the prio mail triangle shaped tube/box,
more resistance to side crushing.

More rectangular shape a box is, the more susceptible to crushing.



These are very good tips, I have used packing peanuts before but only within the trees, usually just crumpled up penny savers to keep them from being tossed around, but the box in box also makes sense, when I have to transport plants in low temperatures (40 degrees or lower) I always place inside a garbage bag that I inflated then place inside a second bag that I inflate as well, different concepts but very similar for using the buffer space like a shock to reduce movement, I like this one a lot.

I always seem to forget about the cardboard tubes, these seem like an obvious choice for the size plants you talk about, very simple solution for those types of plants.

Subject: Crushed by USPS Replies: 62
Posted By: Chivas Views: 2,013
 
To be honest I just assumed that aaron's post was something he wrote in jest to vent some angry he would feel in the same situation, I didn't think he really would do.

That being said who has some more tips on how to pack their boxes when shipping to try and avoid this happening to someone else, so far I have said more rigid box, Jack as said a stack, Ruttings mentioned how almost eden packs which sound like it is a great option as well.
Before this thread gets deleted, I'd like to say something :)
I was impressed with the way Almost Eden shipped some fig plants I ordered last year. 
They came in 4" pots. 
Each pot had its soil covered with wet newspaper, which was taped down with packing tape to keep it from shifting or drying. 
Two pots were placed facing each other, and stakes (longer than the two plants and their pots combined) were taped around the pots. 
Corrugated sheets of cardboard were then rolled around the two pots and cage of stakes. 
Amazing job. I bet you could drop that packaging from a second story window and not harm the plants inside. 

Harvey does a nice job with packaging his plants too. Adding a couple of sticks really makes a difference.  From Ruuting.






Subject: Smith 2014 Replies: 22
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,606
 
Looks great, I agree with celeste, I got rid of mine as it's like eating sugar from a spoon.

Subject: An overdue step over update Replies: 46
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,863
 
When using the v system, it may be advisable also to trim a few lower leaves for air flow, but I doubt you would need to take many, if they are constantly shaded, 1 or 2 from the bottom should not be an issue and would free up some resources for the tree.  

An example is in greenhouse vegetable production, the most common way to grow tomatoes is on a v system.  It works very well provided ample spacing between the two plants in given to maximize light penetration.  This of course is different since tomatoes are annual crops and figs are perennial, tomatoes growing like this will end up get 2-3 leaves taken from the bottom each week depending on weather and variety etc.  As far as less sugars and uneven ripening it has been proven in vineyards and apple orchards that having them go in the correct orientation of the sun will reduce variances and make for more uniform crops, I believe in Napa valley it depends which part of the valley you are in having your rows going east to west or north to south is advantageous but for the most part east to west was shown to be more beneficial.  In northern places like canada, spindle apple trees have also shown to be more uniform in crops and sugars/ripening time when going east to west with the rows.  The reason for this is the sun intensity and fruit temperature, morning sun tends to get more energy out and the fruit warms up more quickly given places for sugars and sap to flow sooner than the shaded side which will have cooler fruit temperatures and then by the time afternoon sun hits it it has lagged behind with fruit temperature and this is what will cause delayed ripening and lower sugars.  Sap will always flow to the warmer part of a plant/tree before the cooler parts, this is why cooler night time temperatures are excellent for fruit sizing as they are where the sugars go as temperatures drop first, followed by the stem of the plant of tree and lastly the leaves.   Sorry if i rambled on here a bit but I thought maybe I should explain my previous statement a bit.

Subject: An overdue step over update Replies: 46
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,863
 
The v system is much more efficient.  It allow maximum light into the canopy and keep things even (assuming you oriented them properly ie with the line of the sun path).  If they aligned with the sun path perpendicularly then you will have un even ripening from side to side where the east side will tend to ripen faster and the west side will tend to have less sugars.  

I would be really interested to see this done with something like col de dama, I bet you could get a really high yield doing this.

Subject: Ronde de Bordeaux from driveway farmer pics Replies: 14
Posted By: Chivas Views: 878
 
If you take a layer and plant it in ground it will amaze you with big growth and huge leaves, but if it dies to the ground don't expect figs that year.

Subject: Nero 600M question Replies: 39
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,561
 
Blueboy, I believe Martin was the one who told me Baud's CdDN grows single lobes when young, later it puts out 5 lobes more regularly.  I was just surprised mine started with 5 lobed then  went to single, so to me that mean's it's being very strong and vegetative with not much chance for figs, it's trying but it's also too late for them.

Subject: An overdue step over update Replies: 46
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,863
 
Well if ag regulations would allow it without all the paper work I would take you up on that offer, winterizing 100 might prove to be a challenge though I would like the look of my driveway.

Subject: Crushed by USPS Replies: 62
Posted By: Chivas Views: 2,013
 
Can also try a sturdier box, I usually go with a corrugated cardboard box instead, more rigid.  I don't know if it would have helped in this case, looks like it had been tossed around or something heavy fell on in.

Subject: An overdue step over update Replies: 46
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,863
 
100 VdB's would be nice planted along the drive way, pick as you drive.

Subject: deep watering fig trees Replies: 22
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,390
 
For inground trees is it really necessary for the deep watering?  In my climate I don't need to water them, I usually will once frost passes just to try and force them to break bud but otherwise after the first year I find I don't need to.  I could understand in a warmer and drier climate it would be needed though.

This really does look like an excellent way to water trees and plants for that matter and I have seen people do it with annual plants with excellent results but never before have I seen it used for trees, but it makes a good ammount of sense and would probably help me with my other fruit trees for water, I just have to figure out how I want to go about it.

Subject: Removing the stub? Replies: 12
Posted By: Chivas Views: 539
 
I would also wait until you have some good growth just to make sure that there is enough sap slow that it doesn't take away from the cuttings and can seal up properly.

Subject: Nero 600M question Replies: 39
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,561
 
My col de dama noir that is in ground has the normal 5 lobed leaves at the start of the season but over the last few weeks it's been single lobed leaves just like the one in pot, I know they will go back to 5 lobed leaves later, maybe not this year but next year.

Subject: Nero 600M question Replies: 39
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,561
 
My guess is this is a juvenile leaf form of it and it is also expressed as being very vegetative.  Watch it and see if it changes if not this year, next year.

Subject: Making dried figs Replies: 27
Posted By: Chivas Views: 901
 
If you make a simple syrup with ripe figs or frozen then roll them in crepes they are delicious.

Subject: what a bloody fig! Replies: 20
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,293
 
definitely looks like barbatane or soilles to me.

Subject: Figo Preto Temporão Replies: 20
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,100
 
Adriano is sometimes difficult to get a hold of and sometimes doesn't have much to offer, you may be better off calling him and seeing if he would give you a tour of his garden and maybe he might be able to start an airlayer for you and sell it to you later on?

Subject: Princesa Replies: 13
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,253
 
Brevas are usually a tease in my climate, although colar main crop has not been  tasted and the breva is far from a tease.

Subject: Making dried figs Replies: 27
Posted By: Chivas Views: 901
 
Fig bread is really good with goat or sheep cheese, it's not really a bread though, something you would spread or slice on bread.

Subject: Grantham's Royal Replies: 26
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,735
 
That looks incredible Paully, huge figs too!

Subject: Making dried figs Replies: 27
Posted By: Chivas Views: 901
 
If you leave them whole, it becomes a pain, the weight from the tray above with squish them and they leak out honey making a mess, taste good though.

Subject: Figo Preto Temporão Replies: 20
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,100
 
This has a beautiful bluish hue to it and nice cracks, a nice treat before the heavy weights arrive.

Subject: An overdue step over update Replies: 46
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,863
 
Looks great, are you planning to pinch or top the main shoots at some point or just make the supports taller?

Subject: Baby figs just now showing Replies: 14
Posted By: Chivas Views: 570
 
For my zone, I am already starting to take them off, I just don't want to waste the energy of the tree on them in case they don't ripen or do so when it is colder, especially with winter damage I have had.

Subject: Grantham's Royal Replies: 26
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,735
 
Paully grows this in Canada, he seems really happy with it.  I believe he has only the breba crop and the second drops.

Subject: It's over Replies: 15
Posted By: Chivas Views: 710
 
I saw the spanish drying figs on a frame that had a wire bottom, lined with news paper.  They would either flatten the figs then put them to dry in the sun or they would leave them whole, then they cover with cheese cloth on the top and secure it so no bugs or birds can get inside.  Worked well for them, they are drier and hotter than my climate though.

Subject: A bug from Hell? Replies: 17
Posted By: Chivas Views: 770
 
I had one of these fly into my house last year, scared me, then I found out they weren't all that dangerous, but the thing refused to get out of the house so I had to spray it, took a lot of spray for 1 wasp.

Subject: Bird problem solved--at least for now Replies: 38
Posted By: Chivas Views: 1,625
 
Some of the vineyards will drape a heavier weight bird netting to this with weighted ends to keep it down, I believe some put arches to keep the netting off the vines.  If you use 1/2 inch bird netting it keeps out moths as well, a cucumber grower here put it on his vents and all the cabbage loopers disappeared, as did the birds.

Subject: --- Panachee, a WOW fig (PIX) Replies: 10
Posted By: Chivas Views: 635
 
If you keep your panachee too wet and there are rain storms, expect some splitting, happened to me the first year I had it, last year, it filled the pot up with roots and it didn't split any.  If you have enough it makes great jam.

Subject: Dynagro Pro-tekt Replies: 6
Posted By: Chivas Views: 364
 
Silcone is good for plants defense system, it is usually provided in the form of silica though.  I have used silicate phosphate as foliar fertilizer before and it is 100% food safe.

Subject: Don't give up on your potted figs yet... Replies: 4
Posted By: Chivas Views: 428
 
I just looked and my Noire de Barbatane is sending out dormant buds and turning green, this morning they weren't, I was expecting suckers since the roots were growing but I will take it for sure, the noire de caromb, I know it's alive but I don't think I will keep it if it hasn't leafed out by the time the garlic is harvested, I am pretty sure I will toss it.

Subject: I Got the Bitch! Replies: 24
Posted By: Chivas Views: 874
 
Weekly sprays of bt will kill them, if it gets hot every 4 days is better as the sun kills bt, best to spray in the evening when sun is not too strong.  Cheap, effective and they turn black which for me is satisfying.  Thinking about it now some people I know put up bat boxes and bats will clean them up too if you can get them to roost and don't mind having a spot that is full of their guano.

Subject: I Got the Bitch! Replies: 24
Posted By: Chivas Views: 874
 
Watch out for the other cabbage loopers, brown moths that fly at night, those are more aggressive feeders.  I always see them at night and in commercial greenhouses some people use bug zappers to fry them, they do work well, especially if you put a bucket of soapy water under them in case they just get stunned and not killed.

 

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