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Subject: Does light hurt roots? Replies: 7
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 238
 

Light is not good for the roots but it won't necessarily kill them.  Most likely situation is that the plant will just invest into roots that aren't exposed to light.  There's no reason to allow that stress if you can prevent it, just pot 'em up black.  When I want to see the roots I pot in a clear container then put that in a black container so I can slip it out to see them when I need and have them in the dark otherwise.  Best of both worlds!

 

More on this topic here:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4264407/


Subject: Black Madeira finally going to ripen? Replies: 6
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Steve, those look great!  I wish I had a green house sometimes, it's on the works on my "I'll hopefully do this in the future" list of things I never do. :-)

Every year the overwhelming majority of my Black Madeiras stay green and don't ripen, it is the saddest.  :-(  I haven't had a good one at all this year because both times it was going to happen we had a little rain and they just burst right open.  I have that problem with Figo Preto a little, too.  I've heard people suggest BM and FP are the same variety, but I think they are not.  BM splits much wider, all of my BMs are dripping fig honey right now and none of my FPs are, and they don't look exactly the same either.

Richie, I don't keep them in plastic.  Do you?  Should I?


Subject: Black Madeira finally going to ripen? Replies: 6
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 177
 

I've been growing Black Madeira for several years now here in Ohio and it's always a pain.  It splits so easy with just a little bit of rain, plus we have a super short growing season due to snow through early May and cold weather in September.

 

But this year we have a freakishly hot September!  My kid's school is letting them out early every day this weak because of high heat risks, but my figs couldn't be happier.  I have a few of these beauts coming into ripe now, ant traps are set around the tree, there's no rain forecast for the whole week, and they're OOZING fig honey!  :-D

Cannot wait!

Ooze!.jpg 



Subject: Looking to trade for or buy peloponnisiaka aspra sika, & pradiso Replies: 0
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 51
 

Hello,

I'm looking to get cuttings or full trees of both peloponnisiaka aspra sika & paradiso.

 

I previously had paradiso that I'd bought from Jon here, but it died a savage death over the winter.

 

Post or PM, thanks!


Subject: In ground fig found in Ohio!!!!!!! Replies: 53
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I'm in Ohio!  Trade me for my picolla negretta cuttings that also survives in ground here! :-D 

Subject: Dormant air layering Replies: 11
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 382
 

I disagree with the talk about only being able to grow roots from plants with leaves and leaves storing rooting energy.

Leaves are the primary energy conversion system, they turn minerals + carbon dioxide + water into sugar via photosynthesis.  The primary energy storage is the stems and roots of the plant.  All energy stored in the plant can be used to do any of the things the plant is equipped to do, it's all sugar, all of the systems run on sugar and water.  None of that energy is special rooting energy.  Cuttings root because there energy stored in them, then they grow leaves.  This wouldn't be possible if energy storage were focused in the leaves.

You can definitely grow roots from a leafless plant!  


Subject: Ebay Seller "eclecticbotany" Replies: 24
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 541
 

This is my auction that the thread was about:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Madeira-fig-tree-cuttings-trunks-cut-1-13-/112272207142?hash=item1a23f1ed26:g:kWcAAOSwnHZYfdgl&rmvSB=true


Subject: Ebay Seller "eclecticbotany" Replies: 24
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 541
 

Yeah KK, that's not my auction you're upset over, my auction only includes the pics of my cuttings.  :-)

 

You and I have done business multiple times, too, KK!  

I saw where it got mixed up above, that's why I wanted to speak up and point out things were getting crossed.  No worries.


Subject: Ebay Seller "eclecticbotany" Replies: 24
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 541
 
To be clear, everyone, this discussion about a scammer using stolen pictures is not related to the items I'm selling ^.  My cuttings are legit. 

Subject: Ebay Seller "eclecticbotany" Replies: 24
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 541
 

Hey everyone,

 

I am indeed eclecticbotany, I originally got my black madeiras from TMC2009 (or maybe it's 209?) from here, AKA NewEnglandGardening on eBay and youtube.

 

You can search through my other threads to see pics etc. of my black madeiras over the years.

Thanks!
-Greg


Subject: Rooting method expierments, 2012 and 2013 Replies: 39
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I had been advised that the white madeira doesn't taste like black at all, which makes sense.  It's just that the leaf looks similar is my understanding thus far.  But we will see!

Subject: Rooting method expierments, 2012 and 2013 Replies: 39
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 5,107
 
Worth nothing, the BM rock wool nodes are just producing fruit for the first time this year.  The cutting produced fruit at least a year earlier.  But the rock wool node that is now over 6' has many fruit.  I'll get some pics later this month.

Subject: Rooting method expierments, 2012 and 2013 Replies: 39
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 5,107
 
Same situation, I tried to contact Tam for a while and ended up with the same result that he's been inactive for a while.

Subject: Rooting method expierments, 2012 and 2013 Replies: 39
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 5,107
 

Mine is from Tam!

 

Actually I got it from Rewton who got it from Tam.  Thus "white madeira #1"


Subject: Rooting method expierments, 2012 and 2013 Replies: 39
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 5,107
 
I just got my white madeira in the mail 2 days ago and potted it up.  Won't have fruit for some time! 

Subject: Rooting method expierments, 2012 and 2013 Replies: 39
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 5,107
 

BM1 died last year to root shock when I was stupid in transplanting it in July.

 

The first root cube survivor is 6 and a half feet tall and is my biggest tree right now, my second BM mother tree is also one of the root cubes from back then.

 


Subject: Noob from Columbus saying hey howdy! Replies: 27
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Hey Jeff!

 

I'm also in Columbus Ohio, OSU alumnus, and grow many different figs.  Stop by sometime and I'll show you how I do it, and maybe buy a couple trees from me.  :-) 

-Greg


Subject: Panache vs black Madeira Replies: 3
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I've heard speculation that Black Maderia & Figo Preto is the same fig.  I say that's not true, I grow them both and the fruit is different, although very similar.  Black Madeira is better tasting.  

Subject: Up Potting Ponte Tresa Fig Cutting Replies: 4
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Hey Tom!

Can you please tell me about the conditions and lighting in your transition environment the video starts in?  With the towels as walls.


Subject: Transition from rooted to pot growing, where am I going wrong? Replies: 9
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 426
 

Fellow fig enthusiasts, please lend me your experience!

 

I've got rooting cuttings down to a near flawless system, and I'm pretty stable in caring for them after they're established, but I suffer a lot of casualties in between.  I root them in plastic shoe boxes with slightly moist sphagnum moss then once they have a good amount of roots I pot them up.  I've tried a variety of methods and still can't quite nail it.  Either my figs dry up on the top or rot or amazingly both at the same time.  Some years I've had much better results than others, but it seems like as I get more experience in every other aspect of growing I get WORSE at this part!

 

I've tried putting them in pots of just perlite, of a mix of perlite/bark/compost, of just dirt, of perlite and just dirt, of just compost.  I've put them in smaller versions of 'Bill's Buckets' that my grown figs do so well in, I've tried them in sealed cups so the moisture can't escape.  I've tried a variety of these buckets outside inside of a larger bin to keep in some humidity, I've tried this inside under lights.  I just can't get better than a 50% survival rate with anything!

 

Please help.


Subject: Looking for white greek, white ischia, sumacki, berbera/bebera, and bourjasotte gris figs Replies: 9
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Woot!  Thank you! 

Subject: Looking for white greek, white ischia, sumacki, berbera/bebera, and bourjasotte gris figs Replies: 9
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 363
 
Thanks Garden,

I ordered a bunch of trees there before posting here actually.  :-)

Subject: Looking for white greek, white ischia, sumacki, berbera/bebera, and bourjasotte gris figs Replies: 9
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 363
 

Hello fellow fig enthusiasts,

 

This winter/early spring I am looking to trade for or purchase dormant cuttings or rooted trees of berbera/bebera, white greek, white ischia, bourjasotte gris, & sumacki.  Two of these I tried last year and failed to keep alive between rooting and putting outside like a total novice who didn't remember how Ohio weather works.  :-(

 

Please PM me, thanks!

 

 

 

 


Subject: How often do you lime potted figs? Replies: 4
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 449
 

I do once a year, when doing up-potting in the spring.  And also with any new planting.


Subject: Looking to trade for or buy: Jolly Tiger, Col De Dame Grise, Berabera/Bebera black Replies: 9
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If you know someone I'm missing please tell them to message me.  

Subject: Looking to trade for or buy: Jolly Tiger, Col De Dame Grise, Berabera/Bebera black Replies: 9
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 648
 

We appreciate your bringing us back to 2012, Eithieus.  But that mistake was long resolved and everyone I sold those to was paid back and/or reimbursed.  Will continue to haunt me, deservedly, but let's stop bringing that up at every opportunity please.  Jon himself has even said that the issue is done here (and I believed banned two negative nancies in the process.)  Onward and upward!

 

All of my figs these days are thoroughly documented, researched, and verified.

 

Barry, I have Figo Preto, Paradiso, Pipo, Red Lebanese, and Piccolla Negretta (officially unknown) for trade. 


Subject: Looking to trade for or buy: Jolly Tiger, Col De Dame Grise, Berabera/Bebera black Replies: 9
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 648
 

Title says it all!

 

I want to add those three varieties to my collection.  I have lots of figs for trade and cash.  PM me please!

-Jolly Tiger (variegated)
-Berabera/Bebera black 
-Col de dame grise

 

Thanks,
-Greg


Subject: Sicilian Red first harvest! Replies: 8
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Dale, I think I'm going to convert it into a 5-top grafting host next year.  :-)

 

It's in 5g right now, might put it in a 25g replica of 'Bill's' fig buckets. 


Subject: Sicilian Red first harvest! Replies: 8
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You know how I keep wolverines out of my garden, Rich?

 

I put up a goal line.  :O)


Subject: Sicilian Red first harvest! Replies: 8
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Musillid!  The Celeste you gave me in 2012 still hasn't produced a single fruit!  But it's the biggest tree in my collection. 

Subject: Sicilian Red first harvest! Replies: 8
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NortheastNewbie gave me cuttings of Sicilian Red in late 2011/early 2012 when I started growing figs.  I was unsuccessful are rooting them.  In 2012-2013 my family live in New Jersey for three short months.  During that time, I met NortheastNewbie at his home/orchard and observed his many fig trees, he gave me new Sicilian Red cuttings and Dark Portugal.  Sicilian Red was again *very* difficult to root, it remains my hardest to root fig so far, 1/10 cuttings survived, and even that one just had a few very wimpy pathetic roots for the first several months.  

It grew very slowly and sadly until this year.  It took off in the spring of 2014 right on schedule with all my other figs.  Then, come May, it created this one tiny fruit on low old wood from last year

 

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A few days ago (from today, August 23) it swelled up and became a very pretty red color.  Today it was finally ripe.  My pictures do the red no justice, here is it next to a much darker Dark Portugal also harvested today (also from a cutting given to me by NortheastNewbie):

(Sicilian red: right, Dark Portugal: left)

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The Sicilian Red was *really* good.  Better than all of my other figs except Black Madeira, and very close to Black Madeira.  I was blown away!

(Sicilian Red on left, Dark Portugal on right)
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This lovely lady was standing guard on the garage door a few feet away:
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Subject: My First Drop of Honey Replies: 18
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 820
 

Look awesome!

Suzi, we harvested our first drop of honey on the same day!  Mine was on figo preto around 2pm today:

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It didn't occur to me to eat the honey separately either. :-(


Subject: Figo Preto first fig! Replies: 19
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The leaf is really similar looking but still looks distinguishably different to me. 

Looking through old photos, I found this picture of the original fruit I started this thread with back before it was ripe, and in this pic it resembles my ripening BM's very closely.  Hmmmm.

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And here's one from roughly the same time of BM coming into ripe:
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On thing all of the Black Madeira fruits of mine have in common is the purple speckling around the eye of the green fig.  None of my FPs have had that.

 

 


Subject: Figo Preto first fig! Replies: 19
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These are my Figo Preto leaves right now:
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Subject: Figo Preto first fig! Replies: 19
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 864
 

By 'tomorrow', I meant I had to go look at the difference for myself right away.

Admittedly the leaves do look pretty similar in these pics, but you can see the difference in lobes somewhat.  The fruit comes in much differently.  BM comes in with this pale green upright fig then it stays the same for a while then one day swells up big and purple then turns black.  Figo Preto has much darker green straight fruit that speckles black onto the green then just fills in black.  At least that has been my experience with them this year.

My Black Madeira also tasted significantly better than my Figo Preto.

 

All of these are my Black Madeiras right now:
[BM1_zps0c6c2d1e]  [BM2_zps38754d76]  [BM4_zps433b299c]  [BM3_zps936757e3]   


Subject: Figo Preto first fig! Replies: 19
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I have it growing side by side with Black Madeira that I have also harvested this year.  It is definitely not the same.  Not the color, not the taste, not the shape, not the fruit cycle, not the leaf shape!

Will take side by side pictures for you tomorrow.


Subject: Figo Preto first fig! Replies: 19
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lol thanks Barry

Subject: Figo Preto first fig! Replies: 19
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 864
 

Figo Preto, round 2!

Much better this time properly ripe and even a drop of honey!

 

[Preto1_zps371a1e10]  [Preto4_zps4f0a1968]  [Preto2_zps9dbbeffb] 


Subject: Dark Portugal, goat cheese, bacon, and a lesson on what not to do! Replies: 16
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 531
 

Thank you all for the kind words and advice!  

I'm writing it off as a victory since there was a valuable lesson learned, and because I don't like taking failures!  :-D

Suzi, we did talk about using prosciutto and probably will try it at least once.  I *LOVE* bacon, and imagined, "how can this possibly go wrong?"  Lesson learned. :-P

Today we harvested (1) figo preto and just stuffed with goat cheese raw, was very good! 


Subject: Col de Dame Blanc 2014 Replies: 15
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Looks awesome JD!  My CdDB, also from UCDavis2011, looks about the same right now, yours is a little riper.  Getting excited! 

Subject: Dark Portugal, goat cheese, bacon, and a lesson on what not to do! Replies: 16
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 531
 

I have been waiting, patiently!, for years to have dark figs stuffed with goat cheese wrapped in bacon.  I wanted to wait until I had at least 3 that I grew myself ripe at the same time.  I've been growing figs for coming up on three years now, the first year had no fruit, the second year had a few, this year has had several but only one at a time...

Until today:

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Four beautiful dark Portugal figs all (mostly) ripe on the same day!  This is the day, it's going to finally happen!

As it turns out, maybe one of them wasn't ripe enough to be picked, and the other two could have used another day too, but the top one was perfect.

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I shoved a ball of goat cheese in each of them.  They oozed with deliciousness as the sweet mushy fruit merged with the creamy goat cheese.  I licked my fingers clean at the end and legitimately thought I was going to cry for a moment it was so delicious.

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Then I trimmed the fattiest part off the bacon and wrapped it around neatly one time on each cheese stuffed fig.

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Then they went in the over @ 300 degrees.  We cook bacon slowly on a low heat to render the fat out and it's perfect so I thought that would be a good approach.  We put them in a pie pan raised up on crumbled foil so they wouldn't sit in a pool of bacon grease.  We watched them pretty closely until the bacon was cooked.

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Glorious bacon wrapped goat cheese stuffed figs!  But they were a total flop...  During the cooking process the figs lost all of their flavor, the goat cheese melted and got lost in bacon grease, and they were borderline inedible.  So disappointing, but I think next time will be a success.  

They were so good before I added the bacon (which just feels ridiculous to say), all of the problems came from cooking them with the bacon.  And the bacon didn't even come out very well, it never does when I wrap it around food, it's never consistent.  I feel like it needs a flat consistent surface with regular flipping to cook properly.

So next time I'll just stuff the raw fig with goat cheese and cook the bacon separately then sprinkle chopped bacon over the fig.  

The moral of the story is this: if you're thinking about cooking your fresh figs, be aware that they're going to lose some flavor!  Or at least mine did.

 

 

 


Subject: 1 Month Ar-Layer Pictures Replies: 28
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Incredible.  I had never heard of these air pots until now.  Thanks for sharing!

Subject: Smith 2014 Replies: 22
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Amazing!  I want one!  

Subject: PARADISO FIG? Replies: 17
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Why is the center of mine so much lighter?  Is this something I could correct with nutrition? 

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Subject: OT: Need ideas to cool orchid terrarium. Replies: 2
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I have a 4x2x2 terrarium that contains dracula orchids and heliamphoras.  The orchids are not doing as well as I'd like, and I have grown suspicion that this is due to not dropping the temp down to an appropriate 50 degrees at night.

Terrarium is totally automated, it needs to run for days at a time without my input, so ice and anything that I have to replace constantly is not an option.

You folks have ideas?

 


Subject: Galicia Negra, a tale of triumphant recovery! Replies: 30
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 1,686
 

Thanks!  And thanks for your insight, you may have well saved my tree.

Can you direct me towards some resources grafting technique you recommend?


Subject: Galicia Negra, a tale of triumphant recovery! Replies: 30
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 1,686
 

The graft canopy is now bigger than the entire mother plant!

I have it firmly supported at the moment.  But I think I'm going to air graft most of it in a few weeks.  That should decrease the weight and risk of breaking, not to mention give me 4 new plants if all goes well!


Subject: Sicilian Red breba Replies: 17
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Is it the same one NorthestNewbie has?

Subject: Why do figs split? Replies: 1
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Many of my figs split and crack when getting close to ripening.  This can't be good, as it completely exposes the inside delicious sweet vulnerable parts to all sorts of organisms.  Today my Black Madeira that had been patiently waiting was not just cracked on the side, but the entire bottom was flayed open like something from a hentai flick!  What causes this?

Subject: Galicia Negra, a tale of triumphant recovery! Replies: 30
Posted By: OctopusInc Views: 1,686
 

That whole canopy is sitting on just the greenwood saddle graft.  I will take your advice on using a tutor as well.  Grasa has advised me to use a Tpost which seems solid.  Will update when that's done.

Appreciate all the love, everyone, and all of your useful wisdom. :-)


 

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