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Subject: Paw paw seeds for shipping Replies: 6
Posted By: pino Views: 213
 
Bill
In addition to stratifying does it help to score or cut the skin of the seeds to help them germinate faster and get out of the shell easier?
Thanks

Subject: Help. What is going on with my CDDG Replies: 4
Posted By: pino Views: 195
 
Occasionaly I have seen this when a fig takes a long time to ripen. Guessing that something killed that bunch of flowers or the fig was stressed during that period of development and they were aborted.

Subject: How to access message panel and contacts with mobile phone Replies: 8
Posted By: pino Views: 211
 
Thanks Richie
Hey got it! For some reason that menu button wasn't showing. it does now!

A follow up question is there a way to know who is online with mobile access?

Subject: How to access message panel and contacts with mobile phone Replies: 8
Posted By: pino Views: 211
 
Thanks Richie, but on this mobile emulator I only see the topics there are no menu buttons on top?

Subject: Leaf on cutting drooping after transplant from water to soil Replies: 1
Posted By: pino Views: 119
 
You may want to increase the humidity until the plant settles down. Either put it in a humidity bin or put a plastic bag with a hole in the top on it until it perks up and starts growing.
If the soil is really wet that could lead to root rot problems.

Subject: How to access message panel and contacts with mobile phone Replies: 8
Posted By: pino Views: 211
 
Hello
I am trying to access my old messages and contacts but can't see a way to do that with mobile phone.
Is that functionality available and if so how?
Thanks

Subject: 10th Anniversary Replies: 40
Posted By: pino Views: 1,124
 
Jon,
Thank you for founding and running the F4F forum for such a long time.
For me the last 4 years on the forum have been great. Expanded my fig knowledge and met many other fig enthusiasts and just had a good time.
Sorry to hear of your decision and I do understand, but I hope you reconsider.
It would be sad for a minority of rude members to spoil it for so many others that have been very nice.


Subject: My Biggest Figs, Ever Replies: 25
Posted By: pino Views: 844
 
Some nice size (90 grams) main crop figs although not as large as the brebas.

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Subject: Fig ID? Replies: 1
Posted By: pino Views: 77
 
Since you said figs are dark then that leaf shape points to LdA, Brunswick ...

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
The sunny and warm weather is back and the figs didn't take long to respond.

Oct 2 - Paradiso (bronze) in ground - After 3 years have yet to pick a Paradiso that wasn't delicious!
btu paradiso IMG_9369.jpg 

New figs ripening on deck;  
Bolzano Nero, Greek Vine fig and Yugoslavian Black Huge

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Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elruge
Nice, even if not quite the summer taste. Hope your weather holds a bit longer

Thanks for your feedback John!

In cool weather it is getting more difficult to wait until figs are fully ripe before picking.
But let me be clear the Adriatic JH, Malasidra, Dalmatie and Israel Purple were delicious and the Peter's Honey was drop dead ripe and sweet as sugar.


Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaitingforFigot
Pino,

Can you please give us more information on the Pellegrino? The photos are incredible and the "caramel" taste is intriguing.

What type?
Where did it come from?
Any history?
Zone hardiness/In ground?
Other comparable figs?

How about the Melanzana (long)?

Thank you!
(I'm a complete Newbie BTW)

Hello,
you are asking some great questions for a newbie!

The Pellegrino was introduced by Mario, a friend of his from Abruzzo Italy called Mr. Pellegrino had the fig.  Mario posted the full story once but I can't find the link.

My Melanzana (long) is a dead ringer for Pellegrino in taste, leaf patterns and fig shape.  Differences I noticed include; the Pellegrino was a little bigger and didn't have any brebas this year while my Melanzanas have produced brebas every year since they were 2yrs old, also Pellegrino seems to ripen 2 weeks earlier.
I am growing both of them side by side so in a few years I should know for sure. 

Some people do say that it looks like LdA.  
I don't doubt that but many figs look similar it doesn't always mean they are the same fig. 
Arguably it does indicate that the fig belongs to the same family as LdA, Melanzana (long aka MM/AF), Lungo del Portugallo, Niagara Black and possibly Nordland and Randino.
Photos of these figs that I have see posted are very similar but show some differences in leaf details, size and skin colour;
Niagara Black is black, Pellegrino/Melanzana/Lungo Portugallo/Randino reddish dark brown, LdA/Nordland mostly green with some brown tones.  Pulps do look similar for all so same fig group or the same fig adjusting to its environment?  

Zone hardiness?  All figs are hardy only to Zone 8.  So figs grown in colder zones require protection from winter or you will get reduced or no fig productivity and/or having to regrow the fig from ground up from time to time. 
For me a candidate fig for growing in ground, in cool climates (like zones 5/6) should not be a smyrna or san pedro type and can't have late ripening main crop figs.

On a positive note for me Pellegrino seems to ripen main crop figs early in containers so I will be trying it in ground next year.
Thanks

Subject: Petite Negra Replies: 9
Posted By: pino Views: 198
 
Congrats Marcel!
This fig just screams to be a big producer.  Have you consider this fig for in ground?

Subject: Pino's Brebas 2017 Replies: 17
Posted By: pino Views: 437
 
Thanks Mario!
Dattero must be a great tasting fig!

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Well, we had a surprise frost last night.  Frost on the field grass and car windshield the forecast was for 6C/42F. So went out this morning to see how the figs made out and many figs have ripened over the last few days.  Didn't see any freeze damage to leaves yet.

The figs look OK but the taste were not as good as usual but still sweet and nice tasting due to the recent cool nights.

Sep 30 - Israel Purple, Peter's Honey, Dalmatie(in ground) and some new unknowns

dalmatie lsug mazza4 IMG_9345.jpg  israel ajh ph IMG_9359.jpg 

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Subject: Pino's Brebas 2017 Replies: 17
Posted By: pino Views: 437
 

Great time to close off this topic while enjoying the remaining main crop figs as they ripen.

Best 2017 brebas

- largest breba; Dan's Greek and Yugoslavian Black Huge were the biggest figs 165 grams

- best producing; Dottato Unk, tied for 2nd;  Greek Vine fig, fico bianco, Neveralla, melanzanas both the round and long one
- also notable mention for the many brebas produced by Deanna, White Spanish (296), Peter's Honey, Capelas, Desert King, Sicilian Black JR, Goutte d'Or and Atreano.

All in all a good summer for brebas in Niagara.
Seems to me breba production benefits from wet cool summers.   Maybe that's the reason why many in the PNW like to grow breba producing figs.

Comments suggestion welcome
happy figging


Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
@figwood1 - Thanks for your post.

@Francisco - thanks for your insight.
I do like Chris's Purple Portuguese so will keep it and will reach out to Sue and and see if can trace a little more history on it.

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
@elruge, Thanks John.  Adriatic JH is a great tasting fig! 

@Francisco, thank you for your kind words.
 May I draw your attention to the Purple Portuguese fig maybe you recognize it?
 Too bad I didn't get a photo of it hanging on the tree it was beautiful the colour, elongated shape and very nice tasting.  The fig was introduced by Sue (Svanessa) same person that introduced Figo Preto and Chico Strawberry and other figs. 
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/chris-purple-portuguese-2011-2012-5563114?highlight=purple+portuguese


Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
With autumn in the wind the figs are rushing to ripen and some dazzling display of colours and tastes.
This perfectly ripe Sicilian Black JR really shined and is best tasting fig for me so far this year. 
I was also impressed with Sierra.  Seems to be the perfect yellow fig, nice size, attractive yellow skin and super sweet honey taste.  

Sep 27 - Sierra, Adriatic JH, Purple Portuguese ...    
sb jr pp IMG_9309.jpg 

sierra IMG_9282.jpg 
ajh IMG_9297.jpg

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Subject: Bagging Barbillone - Minimizing splits, souring & disastrous fruit flies Replies: 18
Posted By: pino Views: 241
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gofiger


Pino would this 1/4 inch netting be a deterrent for hornets as well or are the squares too big?  I have always thought the organza bags are just too much of a PITA and always leaned towards just covering an entire tree with something....but I haven't found anything I'm 100% happy with yet.
Steve
The hornets would have no problem going through the 1/4" net.  There may be smaller mesh but I haven't seen any smaller.

But I haven't had any issues with hornets bothering my figs.  I guess if you have a super sweet over ripe fig hanging that is damaged then a wasp may decide to eat some but even wasp prefer fruits like pears and grapes.  Different locations seem to have varying pest issues.


Subject: Light Breakfast Replies: 5
Posted By: pino Views: 117
 
Congrats!  Enjoy the fruits of your hard work.

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
The wonderful hot weather is highlighting some interesting figs.

Sep 23 - Improved Celeste, Pastilliere, Cyprus Black - all delcious and attractive figs.  The Cyprus was super sweet honey taste, Pastilliere sweet and mild complex taste, Celeste very nice sweet taste.

cyprus IMG_9192.jpg 

pastilliere IMG_9210.jpg 
improved celeste IMG_9096.jpg

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jpeg cyprus IMG_9171.jpg (85.67 KB, 18 views)
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Subject: Martinenca Rimada Replies: 33
Posted By: pino Views: 693
 
Wow it looks even nicer inside and bet it was delicious!!
Thanks for posting.

Subject: Bagging Barbillone - Minimizing splits, souring & disastrous fruit flies Replies: 18
Posted By: pino Views: 241
 
Wow what a productive fig!  Too bad my cutting didn't make it.

Given there are so many figs are BC birds so aggressive that you need to do this?

You may want to look at a grape bird net 1/4" squares that can cover the whole tree to save some time.  Easy to move the net tree to tree as required and the net lasts many years.

Subject: Wasp Service 6 Replies: 16
Posted By: pino Views: 278
 
Ercan, thanks for making it clear for me.  Thee figs are beautiful and would be amazing to eat fresh.


Subject: My Biggest Figs, Ever Replies: 25
Posted By: pino Views: 844
 
Main crop figs I have seen tend to be smaller than brebas.
The exception so far is Capelas Azores brebas were 128 grams and picked these main crop yesterday 120 grams.

capelas IMG_9065.jpg 

Do you have xlarge main crop figs?

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Subject: Hello! I am new Replies: 4
Posted By: pino Views: 98
 
Welcome you have come to a great place for fig information and many great people to connect with.

Subject: Melanzana "Not"(?) AF Replies: 8
Posted By: pino Views: 172
 
Looks like a very nice fig!
Hope you get lots more ripe figs.  When do you start getting hard frosts? 

Subject: Wasp Service 6 Replies: 16
Posted By: pino Views: 278
 
Francisco,
My question is only in the sense of what constitutes a group (family) of figs.
Can a common and smyrna fig belong to the same group maybe leaves and fruit shape point to region?

here is photo of a common fig that seems to have a similar look.  Maybe it doesn't. how much can you tell from a photo?

trim gi.jpg 

leaf gis IMG_4734.jpg 




Subject: Fig ID please!! Replies: 15
Posted By: pino Views: 222
 
What color is the pulp?  
Leaves and fig skin looks similar to Brooklyn white but need to see the inside to have better idea.

Subject: Make your own Fig Jacket Replies: 59
Posted By: pino Views: 4,086
 
Very timely reminder! 

Have you tried using this for temporary frost protection of actively growing fig trees, for a night or 2 since it is opaque unless of course you make it out of poly?

Subject: Wasp Service 6 Replies: 16
Posted By: pino Views: 278
 
This fig looks very nice!

Is it possible that this fig is not a Smyrna type?  
Reason I ask is that fig and leaf look very similar to a local common type fig.

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
More fig varieties ripening adding to a very diverse fig plate in colour and taste.
The mid ripening figs adding more berry and tropical complex flavours.

Sep 20 - Sicilian Black JR and LSU Hollier
sb jr IMG_9202.jpg 
  
hollier IMG_9059.jpg

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Subject: Frost protection Replies: 5
Posted By: pino Views: 159
 
Thanks this is just what the dr. ordered for the inevitable upcoming frosty nights!

Need to find a source for this in Canada or make up my own tent with some poly.

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
@Joe, Great to see such passion for a fig! 
The next bunch I will bag and let them ripen until the cracks are glaring.
Thanks

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Yesterday got a few ripe LSU Purple.  The pulp colour and taste reminds me of Neveralla but not as sweet and tasty.

lsu p IMG_9027.jpg

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Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Thanks Joe and Angela.  

Lattarola taste reminds me of Desert King.  Sweet figgy taste maybe some sugary tones underneath.  Claim to fame for me is that it has been my earliest in ground main crop fig to ripen (w/no season extensions) last 3 years and has been in ground 2 winters.

Lattarula and Fico Bianco are as similar as some say are the mt. etnas similar to each otther.  Exact comparison is tough since figs vary their growth from year to year depending on weather, nutrients, soil, disease pressure, location ...
My lattarula is only 4 years old and has been in ground 2 winters while my Fico Bianco is 23 years in ground and has been my biggest producer for all that time. 

Differences I have seen;
FB is bigger and more round, FB is more yellow when ripe, the lattarula seem to stay green, FB more vigorous grower and very healthy with zero signs of FMD.  Taste is the same.  When fully ripe they are very sweet and juicy honey taste.  They are really nice to dry.

So are the observed differences due simply to health and vigour or are they unique strains?  I have several FB drooping and soft and more lattarula so I will post some side by side photos tomorrow.

My White Marseilles is 4 years old and 1 yr in ground has a few figs this year not ripe yet so I haven't had enough expierence with this fig to comment.  I will post the ripe figs later.


Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Thanks Tony and Francisco for the kind words.

Also wanted to post these photos of Lattarola and Lattarula picked today, both are excellent candidates for in ground cool climate figs.
 
As the story goes lattarula was mistakenly named by early migrants thinking it was lattarola.  Lucky they mispelled it so we still have both figs..lol

These figs are good producers and taste is OK.  Can get very sweet if let to ripen fully.
Lattarula clean juicy honey taste while Lattarola is sweet figgy taste.  
Lattarola is one of the earliest ripening figs in ground for me.

lattarula lattarola IMG_8947.jpg

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Subject: Martinenca Rimada Replies: 33
Posted By: pino Views: 693
 
Beautiful looking figs!
Would love to see photos of the inside when ripe.

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Its nice when you catch a fig dripping honey.  You know you are in store for a delicious treat!

This fig with its incredible brebas (see my breba post) and consistent and early main crop production is a fig dream come true.

mela IMG_8916.jpg 

mela IMG_8946.jpg 

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Subject: Grimo Natalina Replies: 10
Posted By: pino Views: 178
 
Figs will drop their fruit when under stress.  
Maybe it doesn't like the location or it dried out when it was producing the figs?


Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Thanks Christine!  
Savoring these beauties is definitely worth all the hard work to collect and grow them.

Subject: OT - Fig visitors Replies: 26
Posted By: pino Views: 430
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldOneEye
The hummingbird moths are cool.  We have them and a bee-like insect that flies much like them and a hummingbird.  They will often hover in front of a person's face as if they were trying to tell you something.  We call them "News Bees" as if they were going around spreading the news.

That's a cool story!
Btw the hummingbird moth in the photo did the same and hung around long enough for me to go inside and get my camera and then continued to visit each flowers and let me take photos.

Subject: What fig to buy to be potted in zone 5 Replies: 19
Posted By: pino Views: 372
 
Hello
You mentioned that you will be growing your fig trees in pots?  
In that case you have a lot of leeway in choosing varieties.  Only if you plant in ground is where you need to be wary of the short growing season and only a few fig varieties have been proven to perform well in zones 5 and 6.

Being in zone 5 the only fig types to avoid for container growing are;
- the smyrna and the capri types i.e. the ones that requiring the fig wasp to ripen.
- Also unless you have a greenhouse you are advised to avoid the late ripeners. 

That leaves you with a 1,000 fig cultivar choices so treat your self and get familiar with the various fig flavor groups and try and get at least one fig from each flavor group.  (sugar, honey, adriatic berry, dark berry and exotic berry)

your choice good luck.


Subject: OT - Fig visitors Replies: 26
Posted By: pino Views: 430
 
Thanks Marcel!

Most of the regular visiting praying mantis are bright green or brown.  This is the first one I have seen that is brown on top and green underneath.  Maybe I just didn't notice before.

Photo taken with Cannon EOS T5i.

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
Indigestion not a yuuge issue.  Most figs end up in the freezer for rationing through the year.  
Also if I am eating more than a bowl full I eat other tasty foods with them.  Can't think of any food that doesn't taste better accompanied by a delicious ripe fig.

Subject: Pino's 2017 (main crop) Figs Replies: 56
Posted By: pino Views: 1,090
 
We are getting July weather in September and the in ground figs are ripening at a nice pace now.

Sep 16 - Best Tasting Unknown and Melanzana (long) ripened a couple of figs today 
pellegrino mela pn valoze btu neveralla sals IMG_8877.jpg 
btu IMG_9043.jpg 

Also more Melanzanas and Pellegrinos are ripening side by side and hard to tell apart.  


Attached a photo of Valoze with the dark red blue pulp compared to Ciccio Nero with dark red pulp.  The Valoze figs also have bright blue tinge  along neck. 


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jpeg btu IMG_8897.jpg (243.26 KB, 18 views)
jpeg valoze ciccio IMG_8938.jpg (112.58 KB, 10 views)


Subject: OT - Fig visitors Replies: 26
Posted By: pino Views: 430
 
Fig visitor stretching out on my CdD Blanc early in the morning covered in dew.

pm on fig IMG_8836.jpg 



Subject: Bisirri #3 Replies: 14
Posted By: pino Views: 238
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sas
Bill Thanks for the info. Pino beautiful photos. In the top photo they look like they are a bit more elongated than the bottom one.
Sas, I have several figs that come to mind that have both elongated and round figs.  So I think its normal.

Subject: Intervention required Replies: 15
Posted By: pino Views: 219
 
As they say;  You've come a long way baby.

The fun is just beginning.  But as I have come to realize, all those figs will need to be root pruned/up potted regularly and every year they need more water and care and the in ground figs will get bigger and bigger and more difficult to cover.

Hope your wife is as enthusiastic as you are you will need the support.  It helps to bribe her with baskets of ripe figs.

good luck

 

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